THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Confirmed as First in Trilogy; Plus Was Spidey’s True Origin Edited Out of the Film?

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the-amazing-spider-man-image-rhys-ifansProducers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach recently spoke to the folks at SHH, and during the interview they revealed their affection for the Sinister Six:

SHH: Do you feel like you need to stay away from some of the villains that have appeared in the Sam Raimi movies? Or can you redefine them within the context of this new Spider-Man?

Arad: Well, not really. There are so many ways to paint these villains, all of them. As you know, one of the great sagas in the Spider-Man universe is of course the Sinister Six. I think Avengers did okay the last time I looked.

Tolmach: It’s going to be okay.

Arad: Yeah, it will survive.

SHH: So are you suggesting you’re going to do five Spider-Man movies introducing each villain and then the sixth movie will have the Sinister Six?

Tolmach: It seems like a good model.

Arad: It all depends on the stories that one wants to tell, because Spider-Man is really more a depth kind of a story, we have to be careful how many villains we can service, because a relationship with a villain has to be such that it’s a story on his own. We attempted to do multiple villains–you’ve been there–you just need screen time to do it.

spider-man-sinister-sixFor those unaware, the Sinister Six is a group of supervillains from the comics led by Doctor Octopus that was comprised of Vulture, Electro, Kraven the Hunter, Mysterio, and Sandman.  Doc Ock also sent invitations to Green Goblin, Doctor Doom, and the Lizard, but they turned him down (poor Ock).  Tolmach and Arad are in no way confirming that the Sinister Six is their definite plan for the franchise, but it’s certainly an exciting prospect.  The whole “six film” idea seems to suggest that Garfield’s Spidey would be facing an arc different than that of his parents’ disappearance in a second trilogy, with the sixth film bringing back a number of villains from the previous movies.

Obviously everyone has Avengers on the brain, but it’d be great to see a culmination of past villains in a later Spider-Man film.  The tag at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man was frustratingly ambiguous as to who the direct sequel’s villain might be, but Norman Osborn can’t be far off.

Hit the comments to sound off on who you think the next film’s villain should be, and if the late/haphazard omission of Spidey’s origin affected your viewing experience of The Amazing Spider-Man.  We’ll surely be discussing the film in great detail (and with great debate) on next week’s edition of our podcast The Collision, so be sure to check back.

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  • UziGunner

    If they do sinister six i want The Lizard, Rhino, Scorpion, Shocker, Mysterio, Doc Ock, or Electro, Vulture

  • Colin

    So was that Norman Osborn in the short part in the film’s credits? The guy with the hat? It seems to be because they made it seem like the Lizard was talking to himself.

    • bob

      it would make sense as dr. connors did work at oscorp

    • AlexHeyNa

      I think it was Morbius, the vampire. He wears a trench coat, he has scraggly hair, he lives in shadows, he can “vanish”, and there was a shot focusing on Connors’ neck, which is exactly what a vampire would be looking at.

      • UziGunner

        Its possible it is Electro, its him or Mysterio I think. You can’t say its Morbius because there wasn’t really any connection to him. Ok maybe the trench coat like you said, but last i checked in the comics is that The Lizard had a pretty long face and not a human head like the movie, so you can’t just officially announce that.

      • AlexHeyNa

        @UziGunner I didn’t officially announce anything… All I said is I think it’s him.

      • Joe

        Personally I think its gonna be either Norman Osbourne or The Chameleon – disguised as Norman Osbourne.

  • Mike

    Rhys Ifans did an interview with aintitcool.com and he said that it was most definitely NOT Norman Osborn. Here is the link to said interview, the part that I am talking about is down towards the bottom, but it’s a good overall read……

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56771

    • Math

      It’s not Norman? I was sure it was him. In the original comics, before we know that Norman is the Green Goblin, Norman is always shown as a dark mysterious character planning Spider-man’s demise. He always appeared in shadows so the readers couldn’t know who he really was. So I was convinced the guy was Norman, but if Ifans says it’s not him, now I’m really going to spend the next couple years scratching my head wondering about who it could be. Man, now I can’t wait for the next movies to see where they go with that! This movie really brought me back to my younger days where I kept wondering what was going to happen next. I really like that movie, even though I’m really not a fan of making Peter Parker pre-engineered to become Spider-man. I don’t mind having some departure from the original source, but that’s just too much departure. But I’ll give them the chance to fully play it out before I pass jugement. They are up to a great start and I can’t wait to see more.

      • daveyboy

        I was positive it was Norman Osbourne,because when Peter first goes into Oscorp, the show a silhouette of him on their huge screen but you dont really see his face,mainly just his hair(more of a Defoe haircut,not the classic weird comic book hair)…at the post credits scene,it sure looked to me like the same guy…once again,just a silhouette, but the guy has the same hair and profile as the Osbourne picture earlier. I also felt the guy sounded like he was doing a Defoe-as-Osbourne impression,but thats more of an opinion. I say of course the actors involved are going to deny anything that would be a potential spoiler…Dennis Leary talked in interviews like Captain Stacy would stay alive for more than one movie…

  • Electro

    The guy appeared and disappeared with thunder/lightning = Electro.

    • AlexHeyNa

      Wrong. Morbius.

      • Ben

        How is he wrong and you’re so right?? You already posted you “think” it’s Morbius based on nothing but what your idea of what Morbius would be like. Dude doesn’t even wear a trench coat in the comics. The shot was focusing on Connors’ neck because of the patch of lizard skin he still had.

  • Ash Talon

    I’m glad they didn’t have Peter predestined to be Spider-Man. I didn’t like that aspect of Ang Lee’s Hulk, and I wouldn’t have liked it for Spider-Man. It isn’t about how these guys got their powers. It’s about what they do with them once they get them. Having someone predestined to become a hero makes their choice to do so become less important as an aspect of their morality.

    I just don’t everything having to be explained. It doesn’t really help things. I didn’t need an explanation of where the Aliens come from, and I don’t need an explanation why Peter Parker survives a radioactive spider bite. It just happens. Move along.

  • JCRZ88

    It really did annoy me that they did not finish the story in this first film…but more of that in a second, my guess is that it will be Norman since they bring him up repeatedly in the film, also it would make sense to follow the story line of the “super human formula” that Dr. Connors created in this first film. Or they could save Norman Osborn for the third film and it becomes this big reveal and anticipation of the Green Goblin.

    Now Steve Kloves ( who wrote Harry Potter series) did a good job in the potter films to make each movie stand alone. Yes you knew their was more to the story, but when the movie finished you felt like you saw a complete movie with a beginning middle and end. Even Deathly Hallows Part 1 felt complete with the cliff hanger at the end.

    Spider-Man However felt incomplete. The movie starts with focus on his father, it continues throughout the first second half of the first act, then nothing. Also that other doctor seemed like a real threat but then nothing ever happens with him, he’s lost for good. I found this horribly annoying, along with a few others in my group. Now I understand they are setting up for a sequel but why not give it some sort of wrap up. And whats worse is that they totally keep the mystery going during the ending credits.

    Ending credit scenes are meant for neat cameos, little extra reveals, or in the Avengers case a good laugh, NOT TO SET UP THE FIRST ACT OF YOUR NEXT FILM!!

    Iron Man did a good job of introducing The Avengers without side tracking too much from the movie it was trying to tell, same with Thor. Even Star Wars left you satisfied even though you knew it wasnt over yet you knew that a story or a chapter of these characters lives was shared and your excited to meet them again in a few years.

    Without seeing the scenes Im not sure if it helped or hurt the film but I felt watching it that stuff was missing. Lazy filmmaking in my opinion

  • Jake

    I hope they never do Doc Ock again, he was already done perfectly in Spider-man 2, use different villains or villains that didn’t get their due on screen in the past (Venom).

    • Alice

      While I do adore Molina’s take on Doc Ock, its very different then the version in the comics. So I wouldn’t really complain if they did him again.

  • Ramone

    So they basically ripped off the first Hulk movie? WEAK.

  • ken

    everyone keeps saying that he abandoned his search for his parents I saw the same movie as everyone else and it was clearly a scene where he went google ing information and it showed his parents died in a plane crash so why would he continue to work for them?!

  • ken

    I know that people are griping bout his abandoning the search for his parents but I saw the same movie as everyone else and there is clearly a scene where he is google ing information on his computer and it showed that his parents died in a plane crash so why would he continue to search for them ?!

    • JCRZ88

      Well there is another question right there…was his goal to find them, or was his goal to find out about them. Was that really the first time he heard of his parents death and if so, poor editing to not capture that pivotal moment. If you blinked you would of missed that detail.

      Also Connors and that other guy hinted at a possible murder of the Parkers, so was this a loose end in what was deleted from the final film?
      Did connors kill them? Did Osborn Kill them? What were they hiding from anyways? Why leave Peter behind? How much does Aunt May really know?

      These types of loose endings are for TV shows where you will find out next week not for feature films. I know it wouldn’t but what if Spiderman tanked? We would never get those answers I feel like woody when after the last episode of Woody’s roundup….once again Lazy cheap filmmaking

  • GET OVER IT!

    meh! Although i didn’t hate The (not so) Amazing Spiderman, i did not come out of the cinema thinking “wow” i want more of that. Just a bit too dull really, but a decent faithful Venom story might spark some interest in me :)

  • Nomis1700

    I thought TASM was okay. The sequel can be better. I think we’ll see Norman Osborn as the big green baddie in the sequel. Although, I hope they aim for the glider Goblin and not the burning Hulk version because it’d be too much the same as the Lizard.
    I really hope they introduce the Black Suit yet again, I thought that was very poorly done in Spider-Man 3 and especially Venom deserves a better approach. He’s my favorite Spidey villain. I want to see a Venom as big as the Hulk with big teeth and a gross long tongue wanting to kill Spidey. I want to see a big web slinging chase scene thru NYC between those two. I think they can make a pretty good story involving Eddie Brock.

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  • Fist-O-Pain

    How can it be Morbius? Isn’t he more in Blade territory? I’m thinking it’s Mysterio (vanishing in jail cell). Or it’s Norman and they’re lying to not ruin anything. But honestly, this is the best Spider-Man in film ever. I don’t care if the story wasn’t the best, Garfield IS Spider-Man/Peter Parker. Much like RDJ being Tony Stark.

  • harry

    its Harry Potter all over again!

  • Saif

    TAspm was watchable but not upto mark..thinking its sequel could bang b.o

  • Mark

    “hints of its existence are all over the plays.”

    Kudos for not using an apostrophe in “its’” but “all over the “plays?”"

    Really?

  • sense 11

    Personally, I think The Amazing Spiderman is far better than any movie of the last Trilogy. I was never emotionally involved in the last ones, in this one you actually care about the characters. More importantly Spiderman finally talks like Spiderman, that immature condescending, I know I can kick your ass at any moment tone is exactly what he should sound like. I loved it and cant wait to see what Norman Osborn has planned for Peter in the sequel

    To me that kid getting picked on by Flash, the one that Peter tries but fails to help is the Peter from the last trilogy, and I never liked that character.

    • chrissy

      I thought he wasn’t nerdy enough. I mean, no glasses and a skateboard? At least be a little stereotypical and leave out the contacts.

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  • Cory

    I know how everyone is upset that the movie seems incomplete and that’s cause it is. They probably cut out scenes once they realized how big it was Going to be and thus needed to save material for future films. I heard they did a lot of reshoots so it makes sense. In the end when Peter finally listens to the full message from Uncle Ben, uncle Ben says “that a lot of things in your life have been unresolved” and as he’s saying that line the camera is on peters wall where he has the wanted picture of uncle Ben’s murderer, uncle Ben and a picture of his parents. I don’t think that was accidental. I think they’re saying, we understand we haven’t gotten to some things yet, but we will.

  • Ismael

    You guys are all stupid. The mysterious character is someone that KNOWS the parker family. Mysterio and morbius don’t know anything about the parker family. It has to be someone that worked with Richard and curt or someone that studied Peters life and that leaves only 2 characters. And before i tell you that mysterious person doesn’t necessarily mean its a villan. Just someone who wanted peter to know the truth. Anyway its either ezekiel or eddie brock sr.

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  • cj

    @uzigunner, last you checked the lizard had a long snout not a human typ e head? I\’m pretty sure the original lizard done by Steve ditko did not have a long snout and did have a human type head you moron.

    • pickleduck

      eddie brock sr….oh. good thinking. seriously. that would be an interesting lead – into venom.

  • icegril1998

    UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH this film just annoys me – though it has the good mystery to spidermans origin it is an exact copy of the earlier ( and better!) spiderman films ! Sony now wanting to produce a trilogy of these films just proves that they are going to follow the same story line of the earlier spiderman trilogies ! So why try and recreate such amazing movies ?! at least make it abit more different and give us something to make us think that this spiderman is the best not a copy ………………………….

    • hahaha

      are you retarded?
      how is this anywhere near the same as the first?
      in case you ARE retarded ( the green goblin and dr conners lizard are not the same. lolololol
      gwen stacy and mary jane are not the same.
      and… no one is tring to make “the best spider man” they are just telling the story how they want.
      if you are such a hater go watch opera or something.

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  • Zac

    Spider-Man’s parents had been agents for SHIELD, they had an issue where wolverine and spideys parents save the day… And all while spidey was in the womb. Their death is a mystery as to who killed them but not how and really not why exactly either.

  • Zimm

    According the the comics, his parents were killed in a plane crash orchestrated by the assassin “The Finisher” because they were on a CIA (before SHIELD was official) assignment to infiltrate the third Red Skull’s organization. Personally, I think a Venom or Carnage approach would be awesome for a villian for the next movie. Electro would be a good guess due the the appearing/disappearing with lightning….but as previously stated, it does not have to be a villian. Plus, if you think back, the comic book universe and graphic novel universe are a bit different; such as in the comics Nick Fury was a white man with a full head of hair, and in the graphic novels he was a bald black guy. They could easily create a new villian, or revamp an old one.

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