Joss Whedon Says THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON Not Based on AGE OF ULTRON Comic; Promises New Ultron Origin Story, No Ant-Man, and More Sci-Fi

     July 21, 2013


Marvel announced at their Comic-Con panel last night that the sequel to The Avengers will be called The Avengers: Age of Ultron.  Everyone looked to the recent Age of Ultron storyline in the comics, a Terminator-esque plot that sends Wolverine and Invisible Woman back in time to kill Henry Pym (aka Ant-Man) before he can create Ultron.  That would be a major leap from where we left off in The Avengers, so when Marvel filmed a video interview with Joss Whedon, the director clarified they would not use this storyline: “We’re doing our own version of the origin story of Ultron.”

Ultron has always been the dream Avengers villain for Whedon, who said he discussed Ultron with Marvel for The Avengers 2 before he even signed on to direct The Avengers.  Hit the jump for more on how Whedon plans to integrate Ultron into his Avengers universe.

Here’s the video with quotes below:

Clarifying the “Age of Ultron” adoption and crafting a new take on the foremost Avengers villain:


“A lot of people—because we called it Age of Ultron and there was a book, Age of Ultron just recently—assumed that was the storyline we are doing, which is not the case.  We’re doing our own version of the origin story of Ultron.  The other thing is, in the origin story, there was Hank Pym.  So a lot of people assumed that he was going to be in the mix, but he’s not.   Because we’re basically taking the things from the comics for the movies that we need and can use.  A lot of stuff has to fall by the wayside.  Ultron was their chief villain.  He’s been the Avengers villain for so long.  I was amazed anybody was surprised that it was going to be him in the movie.  We are crafting our own version of it where his origin comes more directly from the Avengers we already know about.”

Henry “Hank” Pym moonlights as Ant-Man.  Edgar Wright‘s feature adaptation Ant-Man is scheduled for release on November 6, 2015, about six months after Age of Ultron‘s May 1, 2015 release.  There was speculation that Ant-Man could debut in The Avengers 2 before spinning off into his own movie.  Two years out, Ant-Man could still make his way into Age of Ultron, but Whedon appears to deny that here.  In the absence of Henry Pym, Tony Stark seems the likeliest candidate to fill in as the creator of Ultron in the new origin story.

Whedon says the sequel is darker, more sci-fi, and will take the Avengers around the world:

“It’s a little bit darker than the other film because Ultron is in the house. There’s a science fiction element that I think is a bit stronger than the other film… It is very much a global Avengers film.  A lot of the movie has to do with their place, not just in America, but in the world.”

Finally, Whedon has bigger plans for Hawkeye in Age of Ultron:

“Part of the fun for me this time around is writing Hawkeye.  Because he did get possessed pretty early by a bad guy and had to walk around scowly for most of the movie last time.  So now it’s nice to actually have the character there and really see him interact with the other guys.”

The Avengers: Age of Ultron begins shooting in London in early 2014.


  • Romsy

    Seems plausible that SHIELD will create Ultron to replace the semi-retired Iron Man. Then when Ultron gets out of control the Avengers are called back in to service to stop him.

    • bidi

      exactly what i was thinking

      • Jonboy

        Sounds like a good plan…I wonder if this will have anything to do with Vision now that Agent Coulson is back. He was created by Ultron in the comics.

  • jocab_w

    In the context of the films, I’m fine with Tony being the one who creates Ultron, though this news does make me a little less excited for the Ant-Man movie.

  • sense11

    I truly hope that Hawkeye, now that he is no longer part of Shield finally starts wearing his proper uniform with the cowl.

    • Shawn T. Nicholson

      When was it stated that he had left shield? ?!

      • Random Bystander

        That’s what I was thinking. Black Widow is still part of SHIELD, why the hell wouldn’t hawkeye still be?

  • Django

    Ugh. Worst name ever.

  • killa-bee

    To those upset about Ant Man not being in Avengers 2 need to remember that he could be bull shitting us and be waiting to unveil it till the right time. But my theory is that SHIELD creates him as a replacement for Iron Man with the help of a random scientist named Hank Pym and he turns on them and begins to evolve. And at the end they probably won’t destroy him permanently so they can use him in the future (ant-man movie).

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  • Agent777

    I’m a lover of all things Marvel… in comic form. Movie wise, this is why DC has the movie biz sewn up really good. Marvel’s still making movies that play like those weird trippy 60′s cartoons they did, with Herbie the robot randomly taking the place of the Human Torch.
    Couldn’t they do Kang? Baron Zemo? Why a villian where half the fun is that he’s Hank’s “son”? Why a villian who’s origin is one of the most iconic issues of Avengers? Why do something the specifically treds on the toes of anyone upset by Hank and Jan being cut from Avengers in the first place? A Ultron who isn’t Ultron is just another robot.
    Please prove me wrong Marvel, but I’m guessing this will be just another mindless popcorn film that’s just meant to pad out the next blu ray set.

    • Lex Walker

      While I can appreciate your opinion, objectively and from a box office standpoint: Marvel has the movie biz sewn up really good. Until DC can find a way to introduce its non-Bats & Supes movies and generate solid box office as well as fan and critical acclaim (which is what pushes a film from the high millions into the billion and a half BO range as it attracts all audiences not just the 13-30 demographic). As far as movies go, Marvel’s winning the current race hands down. At one point I’d have thought a World’s Greatest film could even the playing field, but Man of Steel was so polarizing and since Snyder and Goyer are returning, I don’t see that changing.

    • HBICkellz

      LMFAO. The fact that you think DC has the move biz sewn up is fucking
      HILARIOUS. Get your delusional DC cocksucker goggles off and get over
      it. Marvel is the HBIC of the ComicBookFilms. Meanwhile DC has no faith
      in ANY of their characters because they have to keep bringing up Batman
      to save their ass. They can’t even let Superman shine in his own sequel.
      So sad.

  • Andrew Sanders

    So Thanos,the BIG BAD in Avengers 3 then I assume,…or is he saved for Guardians Of The Galaxy?

  • sentr

    Unless Ant Man is O’Grady or Lang which opens up the possibility. On the other hand look at it from the perspective as if Pym was still being written by Brian Bendis even Johnathan Hickman is now the Avengers scribe. Pym was depicted very badly by Bendis in one of his huge comic events in the 00′s, Secret Invasion. It was an imposter/skrull but nonetheless awful characterization. One of the worst in recent history.

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  • Bob

    Tbh, I will be really upset if they don’t at least have Pym in the movie as the creator with say SHIELD of Ultron. Pym is his creator…I’m sorry Joss but I’m calling bullshit. I actually think Vision will be in Avengers AOU as well.

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  • Wah Wah

    I guess Ultron is born from Iron Man’s JARVIS AI program, not anything Pym does. Not sure how I feel about that.

    • robbobjon

      Well, just look at it this way: This wouldn’t be the first time they’ve fucked up comic lore to cater to Iron Man. And why not? Iron Man is, after all, the most overrated hero of the (movie) Avengers, so why not have everything with him as the centerpiece? So, apparently, screw Pym and screw (actual) fans!

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