Comic-Con: THE AVENGERS 2 Titled THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON

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Marvel President Kevin Feige is about to leave the stage in Hall H following the panels for Thor: The Dark World, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and Guardians of the Galaxy.  An amped up crowd is shouting “More!”  Feige returns, takes a seat, and says “There’s only one more person here.  He wanted to say, ‘Hi.’  Joss Whedon!”  Whedon takes the stage.  “Hi.  I know it’s time to go,” he says, “and I don’t have a lot to say, but I have something to add.”  We cut to a trailer of quotes from The Avengers over something metal being hammered.  The metal has a strange red glow.  The last quote we hear is what Nick Fury told Maria Hill about the group coming back together when they world will need them.  The camera then pulls out to reveal Ultron’s helmet.  We then get the title for the highly-anticipated sequel: The Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Hit the jump for more.  The Avengers: Age of Ultron opens May 1, 2015.

avengers-2-age-of-ultron-comic-book-coverThe reaction in Hall H to the reveal of Ultron was ecstatic because these are the fans that know the name “Ultron”.  For those who don’t, here’s a brief recap with the help of Wikipedia:

-       Ultron made his first full appearance in 1968’s Avengers #55.  It is revealed that the living automaton “is the creator of the “synthezoid”, the Vision, whom it tries to use as a weapon to destroy the Avengers. The Vision, however, destroys Ultron with the aid of the Avengers.

-       Further flashbacks reveal that Dr. Henry Pym, a.k.a. Ant-Man was the creator of Ultron.  The robot eventually developed its own intelligence and rebelled, suffered an Oedipus Complex, tried to kill Pym and became interested in Pym’s lover, Janet van Dyne, a.k.a. The Wasp.

-       The title “Age of Ultron” refers to 10-issue crossover comic book event that ran from March to June of 2013.  Here’s the synopsis from Wikipedia:

During the Age of Ultron storyline, Ultron has returned and conquers the world while slowly remolding it into his image. His Ultron Sentinels are guarding the streets looking for any fugitives. Hawkeye runs into the Ultron Sentinels as he was rescuing the Superior Spider-Man yet manages to destroy the Ultron Sentinels present. It is later revealed that Ultron is actually in the future and has been using Vision as a conduit to punish humanity. While one strike team travels into the future to fight Ultron, Wolverine and Invisible Woman go back in time to kill Pym before he can create Ultron in the first place.  This results in a world where Tony Stark controls an army of robotic drones and that Morgan le Fay has conquered half of the world. Travelling back in time once more, Wolverine succeeds in stopping himself from killing Pym, and he, Pym and Susan Storm come up with a different plan. This plan results in a different outcome of the prior confrontation between the Avengers and the Intelligencia; a ‘back door’ installed into Ultron at his original creation allows Hank Pym and Iron Man to destroy the robot, instead, averting the events that led to the ‘Age of Ultron’.

So…yeah.  That’s probably not going to be the exact plot of Whedon’s movie.

The larger question is, “How does Thanos fit into all of this?”  As far as the comics are concerned, Wikipedia says he doesn’t.  Thanos isn’t mentioned anywhere on Ultron’s page.  So while it’s exciting news, we were all going on a big assumption:  Guardians of the Galaxy introduces Thanos, Thanos fights the Avengers in The Avengers 2, and we move on to Phase Three.  It’s possible Ultron and Thanos fight alongside each other in Age of Ultron, but what if we jumped the gun?  What if Thanos isn’t the villain of The Avengers 2?  What if he’s the villain of The Avengers 3?

Marvel always knows how to send its audience reeling.  Today, they did it with a revelation reminding the crowd that as the studio becomes more successful, they’re going to take more chances, and we should learn to expect the unexpected.

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  • Satchmo

    So that settles it Vin Diesel is Vision. I would’ve thought they would have gone Thanos but I bet he’s Phase Three’s main villain

  • Satchmo

    So that settles it Vin Diesel is Vision. I would’ve thought they would have gone Thanos but I bet he’s Phase Three’s main villain

  • Saltonstall

    Wow. This is a genuine bombshell. I figured Ultron wouldn’t be introduced until after the Ant-Man movie. But still, maybe we’ll see Thanos in Guardians, setting up his appearance in Avengers 3.

  • diles1

    Ultron is one bad motherfucker, but I’m interested to see how the relationship to Ant-Man works considering the Ant-Man film follows the Avengers sequel.

    • etguild2

      Yeah, it’s strange there were no Ant-Man teasers considering there were last year…and Wright was at Comic-Con to promote “World’s End.”

    • etguild2

      Yeah, it’s strange there were no Ant-Man teasers considering there were last year…and Wright was at Comic-Con to promote “World’s End.”

  • Nerdgasm

    I think this is awesome. if they brought in Thanos it would be like recreating Avengers Oen all over again. So it’s awesome news they are going in a different direction then coming back to another alien invasion which will probably set up the Kree Skrull war.

  • Nerdgasm

    I think this is awesome. if they brought in Thanos it would be like recreating Avengers Oen all over again. So it’s awesome news they are going in a different direction then coming back to another alien invasion which will probably set up the Kree Skrull war.

  • calebrcrawford

    I speculated an Age of Ultron storyline for Avengers 3. I am stoked they surprised us with this for phase 2.

  • calebrcrawford

    I speculated an Age of Ultron storyline for Avengers 3. I am stoked they surprised us with this for phase 2.

  • Holoshot

    This make sense. Thanos is such a poweful force, save him for the Avengers 3. This way, maybe they can slowly introduce the infinty gems and do a version of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, which if you ask me, is the best major storyline marvel has ever done. Also, Ultron is awesome.

  • Holoshot

    This make sense. Thanos is such a poweful force, save him for the Avengers 3. This way, maybe they can slowly introduce the infinty gems and do a version of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, which if you ask me, is the best major storyline marvel has ever done. Also, Ultron is awesome.

  • kav

    joss whedon was asked in an interview after the panel and he said they just got the name age of ultron from the comics but the avengers storyline doesnt really include much of anything from the comic storyline

  • kav

    joss whedon was asked in an interview after the panel and he said they just got the name age of ultron from the comics but the avengers storyline doesnt really include much of anything from the comic storyline

    • Nerdgasm

      That’s expected. Because Ultron needs to be around and already established for that story line to make sense. But Ultron is in the movie and is the bad guy other wise they wouldn’t have shown footage of what he looked like. No one expects for the story to be anything like AOU from the comics cause A) not all the characters exist yet in the movieverse and B) Ultron hasn’t fought the Avengers yet.

  • mariner

    Any chance they introduce Ant-Man in Avengers 2 while still leaving his detailed intro/background for Edgar Wright’s film? They’re scheduled only 6 months apart right? Maybe they’ll introduce Ant-Man briefly, in a manner similar to how Hawkeye was introduced in the first Thor film…

    • calciferboheme

      I imagine they’ll introduce him when they’re trying to figure out what the deal is with Ultron. I’m really interested to see where that takes the Ant-Man movie though, and whether it’s set before or after Avengers 2. Bringing on Ultron first is an interesting move, but one I am completely behind.

    • calciferboheme

      I imagine they’ll introduce him when they’re trying to figure out what the deal is with Ultron. I’m really interested to see where that takes the Ant-Man movie though, and whether it’s set before or after Avengers 2. Bringing on Ultron first is an interesting move, but one I am completely behind.

    • Bob

      If they have an actor, he might make a cameo just as Pym in Cap 2.

    • Bob

      If they have an actor, he might make a cameo just as Pym in Cap 2.

  • mariner

    Any chance they introduce Ant-Man in Avengers 2 while still leaving his detailed intro/background for Edgar Wright’s film? They’re scheduled only 6 months apart right? Maybe they’ll introduce Ant-Man briefly, in a manner similar to how Hawkeye was introduced in the first Thor film…

  • Andrew Wesolowski

    Or, you know, you might be jumping the gun on Thanos. He could just be the villain of Guardians of the Galaxy, and not have anything to do with either upcoming Avengers films. Either way, I’m looking forward (though I do have a sinking feeling in my gut, ’cause Avengers 2 was so mysterious, and now we have an idea of what it might entail. Taken a little bit of wind out of my excitement for it)

    • Lex Walker

      That was kind of doomed to happen anyway then, right? You can’t avoid a “spoiler” like who the villain is, especially if it’s in the title. Basically you set yourself up for disappointment.

    • Lex Walker

      That was kind of doomed to happen anyway then, right? You can’t avoid a “spoiler” like who the villain is, especially if it’s in the title. Basically you set yourself up for disappointment.

  • Andrew Wesolowski

    Or, you know, you might be jumping the gun on Thanos. He could just be the villain of Guardians of the Galaxy, and not have anything to do with either upcoming Avengers films. Either way, I’m looking forward (though I do have a sinking feeling in my gut, ’cause Avengers 2 was so mysterious, and now we have an idea of what it might entail. Taken a little bit of wind out of my excitement for it)

  • rocky728

    Whedon always said Thanos would be in Avengers 3
    I think some just thought it was b.s.

    Thanos won’t be the main baddie in GOTG either but he’ll be referenced a lot and may be working behind the scenes.
    All this is building towards Avengers 3.
    Whedon said he couldn’t just throw Thanos out there. He deserves the slow build up for a climactic A3

  • rocky728

    Whedon always said Thanos would be in Avengers 3
    I think some just thought it was b.s.

    Thanos won’t be the main baddie in GOTG either but he’ll be referenced a lot and may be working behind the scenes.
    All this is building towards Avengers 3.
    Whedon said he couldn’t just throw Thanos out there. He deserves the slow build up for a climactic A3

  • Bob

    Well this already was my most anticipated movie for years to come…so yea even better. Hmm, I was hoping Vin Diesel would make an appearance and they would anounce he’s Vision. I think he still is though. This all but confirms Vision is going to for sure be in Avengers 2. Does anyone else think Ant-Man and Wasp are gonna be in Avengers AOU now? I do, that means Avengers is gaing 6 new members…Ant-Man, Wasp, Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Falcon. Holy shit. And I have a feeling War Machine might join in on the final battle this time as well.

    • Nerdgasm

      I think it’s funny that people are writing Vin as VISION just because of this announcement. I maybe I am not denying that… but I liked the prospect more of him Being Thanos and being as Thanos will most likely make an appearance in GOTG…wouldn’t it make sense to cast Thanos Before Ultron who is going to be in a movie two years from now when GOTG is shooting NOW and the Vin announcement is happening at the end of THIS month?

  • Bob

    Well this already was my most anticipated movie for years to come…so yea even better. Hmm, I was hoping Vin Diesel would make an appearance and they would anounce he’s Vision. I think he still is though. This all but confirms Vision is going to for sure be in Avengers 2. Does anyone else think Ant-Man and Wasp are gonna be in Avengers AOU now? I do, that means Avengers is gaing 6 new members…Ant-Man, Wasp, Vision, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Falcon. Holy shit. And I have a feeling War Machine might join in on the final battle this time as well.

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  • Slag87

    At the end of Iron Man 3 Tony moves on to do greater things.

    10 $ says Iron Man creates Ultron in the MCU.

  • https://www.facebook.com/MyPassion4Life?ref=hl Javan Clark

    Lots of speculation on Thanos…

    Something to keep in mind… it took A LOT more then a 7 man Avengers team to take him down. When it was time to face off against Thanos, he was a universal threat, literally EVERYTHING was at stake. It took numerous heroes (damn near all of them) to stop his mad scheme and save the day.

    This seems to me like a build up to a genuine Infinity Gauntlet style crossover event. Maybe the Guardians discover the plot, but to have them take down The Mad Titan on their own is not credible and is unlikely.

    I think that’s what Phase 3 will be; an Infinity Gauntlet based crossover, with the Avengers 3 movie as the main piece. Phase 2 is about introducing a few more characters, and setting the stage..I believe we will see end credits scenes in Phase 2 that start the setup for the Infinity Gauntlet to go down in Phase 3.

  • Faptain America

    Isn’t Ultron a rip-off of DC’s Amazo? And isn’t Ant-Man a rip-off of DC’s Atom (not Captain Atom, just Atom)?

    • Neil

      Ant Man came first. Ultron and Amazo are two totally different characters. Deal with it.

      • Faptain America

        But wiki says Atom started out in 1940, with Silver Age Atom in 1961. Interestingly, Ant-Man appears right after, in 1962.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(comics)

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man

        Also Ultron and Amazo seem more similar than they’re different.

      • Nerdgasm

        The 1940 Atom has none of the same powers as Ant Man and then 1961 Atom used a gun to shrink things for the most of his first appearances until he had to use the gun on himself and started gaining attributes much like our Ant Man in Marvel. So I wouldn’t say that either of them are rip offs. The Incredible Shrinking Man Myths have been around for hundreds of years and both most likely pulled their versions from there.

        As far as Amazo And Ultron they really don’t have anything in common. they are droids that scientists created and have ways of matching their opponents. But are very different. Ultron is built for good by a good guy that turns because of emotional reasons that Pym never saw coming. Amazo was built to destroy and that’s what he does. he’s pretty one sided. Ultron Struggles with belonging and his own sentience. Ultron keeps coming back to Hank Pym and Pym’s Wife. Read into these characters a little more. Atom vs AntMan. Amazo vs Ultron. They are all interesting and have nuances that make them MILES different.

  • Joseph

    I want 7 inch light up Ultron action figure toys.

  • NICK НΛRT

    comic book movie posted an interview with joss whedon where he said hank pym won’t be in the film. they even go as far as to speculate that this ultron will be created by tony stark http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83845

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  • Andrew

    Yeah. Whedon confirmed Pym won’t be Ultron creator for the new Avengers sequel. I’m fine with that. I just hope this Age of Ultron is better than its comic book namesake.

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