David Goyer Comments on SUPERMAN/BATMAN Progress; George Clooney Talks about Ben Affleck Playing the Dark Knight

     September 27, 2013


Today in minor Superman/Batman news, screenwriter David Goyer provided a brief update on their progress for the upcoming Man of Steel sequel.  ”One of the things that has been fun for us is we’re a bit further along than I think people realize,” Goyer tells IGN.  I’m a bit confused by what he means when he says, “people realize”?  Is there a popular perception regarding the production’s timeline?  We know that the movie is set to begin filming in Michigan in the first quarter of 2014.  If they’re “further along”, then I guess that’s good for fans?  I don’t think the movie is going to go in front of cameras any sooner, but I suppose more preparation is better than less.

Hit the jump for a fun comment from George Clooney about his time playing Batman, and his thoughts about Ben Affleck putting on the cape and cowl.  Zack Snyder’s untitled Superman/Batman movie is due out July 17, 2015.

While doing press for his upcoming film Gravity, Clooney spoke candidly with Empire about playing the Caped Crusader in the reviled Batman and Robin.  When asked about his Argo producing partner Affleck playing the new Batman, Clooney replied:

“I am the least qualified person to comment on anyone playing the role of Batman since I so terribly destroyed the part.  I tend to look at it like this – let’s just see what the movie is before everyone starts beating him up. He is a smart man, he knows what he is doing.”

I wouldn’t say Clooney is the least qualified person to comment on people playing Batman.  That dubious distinction would go to Joel Schumacher, who cast Clooney in the first place.  But Clooney’s right when it comes to public reaction regarding Affleck as Batman.  At least Affleck’s Batsuit probably won’t have nipples on it.


  • Chris Nolan

    By “farther along” what my good friend, squire Goyer, was saying is that he came to me, guvs and asked me “what’s the best way to shat upon the batman character; I’ve already hired Ben Affleck so I’m well on my way”. So I says to him, I says: Goyer bob’s your uncle, what. What you have to do now is make batman weepy, have him get beat up like a errant chimney lad. Then, try to show Batman as little as possible in your batman film like he’s a dirty secret everyone should be embarrassed of. Like the sexual relationship I have with my brother Jon Jon, what what’.

    • Clay

      You’re a complete moron.

      • Chris Nolan

        Ladies and Gentleman Jonathan Nolan! My bro with benefits!

    • justkiddingnobutseriously

      Chris, Interstellar better be the bees’ knees, yeah?

    • Ro-Jaws

      Well at least Chris Nolan is having a sexual relationship with someone, unlike some…

      • Chris Nolan

        No brah, your mother has a very healthy sexual relationship occurring as I type this comment, with me. LULZ!

      • Chris Nolan

        Oops! I put “with me” at the end of the sentence rather than after “occurring”, where it would actually make sense! LULZ! My mind blanks out sometimes as a result of all the piss i habitually drink. Oh, speaking of which: Does anybody know if there is a Trayvon Martin impersonator that i can hire to come to my house, gather my family in the living room, drop his pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “ACTION”? I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! I’m willing to pay $300 cash. $350 if he can make it taste like CORN. ;-) Lulz!

      • Loonzie

        You really are a piece of shit. To think this is “fun” for you really blows my mind. I can’t wait for your next witty remark though because they’re all so fucking good.

      • Lulx 2 B Had

        Wow Griz, making light of the Trayvon Martin tragedy is pretty low; especially given that we’re having a pissing contest (pun intended ;) ) on the internet. Have another debate with me instead of hiding behind your comments coward.

      • TheMonarch

        “Brah”? I think you’re crossing wires with your Snyder.

    • Strong Enough

      F U……………. I’m super gay for Nolan

    • Had Enough

      ya dude, by know we understand you’re a faggot hipster that doesn’t like Nolan and is trying to express his views against a pretty widely respected filmmaker in the most deranged way possible. I think I speak for the majority of Collider readers when I say fuck off man, really. I understand you have a small penis, never will or have been with a woman, and were probably molested as a child (by Chris Nolan if you read into most of your comments) and this is the only way you can cope with reality without committing suicide with a bag of dicks. BUT, fuck off man, get psychological help, and this is coming from someone who isn’t really a Nolan fan, I just hate reading your bullshit all the time.

      • Lulz

        I love your sweet sweet tears.

    • TheMonarch

      Does anyone know where I can hire a Lulz impersonator to piss in Lulz’s mouth for months without end, so he knows how the rest of us feel? $1000 cash if the hire can make it taste like bitterness and prodigal boredom.

      • TheMonarch

        $1250 if he does it while fingerpistoling the air with both hands and keeping an accurate shot. It’d be a nice recreation of hiding the pathos at the core of Lulz’s life with his casual, humorous cruelty. I think he’d appreciate the artistry…for once.

      • Lulz I. B. Havin

        I’ve gotten to you all so, so much. It’s delicious having this much power over people. I even had one guy who’s devoted a good portion of his life to seeking out my comments and typing the piss remark beneath them. None of what you say has an effect on me as this is strictly a personal comedy routine I play out to amuse myself. However, you’re all obviously pretty mad about it. Lulz :)
        If you all ignored me I’d go away. But, hell, you people getting your panties in a bunch gets me sprung hard and makes me laugh and laugh and laugh. LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

      • TheMonarch

        Sounds like you’ve got an exaggerated impression of your effect on people. Whatever helps you get off. Who am I to judge? This “pissing” thing, though…that’s beneath the level of quality satire I expect from you. And I’m only half sarcastic in that remark. Piss and come and incest aside, your Nolan and Snyder are just far afield enough sometimes to elicit a chuckle. Coming from a (non-Nolanite) Bat-Nolan fan, that’s a compliment. And from a Snyder-sneerer as well, much appreciated. …It’s just, I would rather not sit through the same production every time there’s a WB article on the site. …Work on some new material, maybe. Polish it more often and with greater attention than you do your helmet. ;)

  • http://thenonessentials.blogspot.com/ Sean Chandler

    No casting choice could have saved Batman & Robin from the script and direction. The movie wasn’t bad because they cast Clooney. It was an ill conceived movie which horribly misunderstood what people wanted. I imagine if they put Clooney in a good Batman movie, he would do a perfectly fine job. Clooney has always been a bit too open to taking the blame for that film.

    • Paul

      You are 100% correct!

    • Bob

      Agree on all points. If Clooney had a good script and director I’m sure he would have been a fine Batman; also if he had a better suit, I mean come on, that suit was awful.

    • bluetuned

      Clooney at that point in time would have been absolutely perfect for Batman / Bruce Wayne in a better film. He was ideal casting for a billionaire playboy with a darker side. It’s just that the studio and Schumacker were interested in making garbage.

    • MainFragger

      I am so glad to read someone besides myself saying this. I really felt that DESPITE how bad that film was, Clooney has so far been the best choice. He has the realism needed for the part, but also, he reminds me a little of Adam West in that movie without going too far over the top. I really wish he would have gotten another crack at the role with a better production.

      • Reality Check

        Clooney is a hack dumbass who can only squint-act or smirk. He sucks balls and everyone knows it. The movies he stars in never make money, so all this Hollywood hype about him being some kind of star is straight b.s. It comes down to the fact that other actors find him a cool guy to hang out with so everyone is trying to push him as some kind of legit actor. He has looks and that’s it. He’s awful, straight up fucking terrible. Remember The Leatherheads? LOL!

      • Reality Check

        Also, does anybody know if there is a Trayvon Martin impersonator that i can hire to come to my house, gather my family in the living room, drop his pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “ACTION”? I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! I’m willing to pay $300 cash. $350 if he can make it taste like CORN. ;-) Lulz!

  • Paul

    I think anyone playing the role of Batman on “Batman & Robin” was destined to be the worst batman (considering the current films) Joel Schumacher and Akiva Goldsman took to heart the “light” fun side of comics and produce on hell of an awful movie. Clooney or no Clooney.

  • Fatt Goldblerg

    “Further along” meaning the inclusion of Batman, and the plot of the sequel predate the fan assumption that the Batman Vs Superman comic con announcement was on a whim. Read between the lines Goldberg, you salty little prick.

  • Ross

    Why does Matt Goldberg work for collider? He has a type of style in film that doesn’t suit most of the people logging onto this website. Silly things like a comments about production seem to give him an excuse to make annoying comments about a movie we know he is going to hate before it comes out. Not saying he shouldn’t review movies, just saying this seems like the wrong place for him.

    • Aquartertoseven

      Well if MoS is any indication, the sequel will be crap.

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  • kngoworld

    The irony of it, is that Clooney would probably be a better choice for Batman today instead of Affleck. I picture him as a more grizzled, aged Batman compared to Ben, which is what Goyer and Snider have penned for this role.

    • Dmula

      Agreed they made Clooney play the role like he was still on E.R.

    • Dmula

      Agreed they made Clooney play the role like he was still on E.R.

  • Chris Nolan

    Also, does anybody know if there is a Trayvon Martin impersonator that i can hire to come to my house, gather my family in the living room, drop his pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “ACTION”? I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! I’m willing to pay $300 cash. $350 if he can make it taste like CORN. ;-) Lulz!

  • Howie

    What do we have to do, where’s the petition to sign, to get Jonathan Nolan to do a rewrite on all the upcoming dc properties?!! No one wants Goyer, he’s the story guy not the script/dialogue writer his stuff is just plain corny. JoNolan’s the one who did the only one that counts, the dark knight, he grounded the franchise down to underground government nuclear holocaust bunker facility level, and brought some logical sense to the characters. Then people bring up tdkr but according to the mos pitch story, according to Christopher, Goyer was working on the backend of the the script -dragging his feet. Taking the blame from Jonathan and putting it back on Goyer as one who’s the problem!
    And what Goyer’s talking about in saying, “we’re a bit further along than I think people realize” is that(if you don’t remember) MOS was done way ahead of release. They even held off till the next summer to release. So, this whole time after post or even shooting was done, they’ve been in pre- on the sequel and the way snyder works that’s generations of time. But again it’s a Goyer script! Here’s hoping ben puts his foot down and adds some logical realism to the mix(Gonebabygone, The Town, Argo.)
    Three logical ways Bats beats supes: Zods’ suit, Starktech sound-cannon containment(ala tih), and following Clooney’s lead in Gravity -space. Superman’s hits, punches, kicks, and finger flicks would have no effect on batman in space. It’d just send him off into Earth’s orbit with no bodily harm whatsoever. Not saying Space Batman is the way to go, tho the mark 39 suborbital gemini suit is pretty sweet, but there is the watchtower which is something they could allude to. Buh whateve’s, i just hope they cast Kara correctly. I know this site’s wanting marling(the way she gets promoted round hea.) But, i’s thinking more-so Spencer Locke, Madison Riley, Shantel VanSanten, Imogen Poots, maybe hough, or any of the thorne sisters. Jus some suggestions other than heard, palmer, ronan, and moretz -the usual’s.

  • Leo Spaceman

    By no means am I ripping on Ben, but when ever I hear someone comment on their thoughts or reaction to the casting of Ben, I just picture Christian Bale waking up and pleasantly sitting in his kitchen, sipping his morning cup of tea and reading the morning paper and seeing the headline “Ben Affleck is the new Batman” and Christian half choking and spilling his drink all over him.

    • Nerdgasm

      Cause Bale was good? He growled as Batman and we rarely saw him as Bruce Wayne. Stop acting like he was a messiah. he didn’t bring much to the role.

  • thinker365

    I think that had the script and overall movie been better with Batman and Robin, Clooney would have been fine as Batman, not great, but fine. Just like Affleck would have gotten less flack today if he had worked with a better Daredevil movie. The Script and directors were probably the biggest factors causing those two movies to stink.

  • dungeons and draccus’s

    You forgot the part when he said “Most comic book purists would say Batman [would win in a fight], even though it makes no sense whatsoever! Batman is the ultimate strategist, but if Superman just flicked his finger Batman would be done for.”

    Alright. That’s it. Batman beat Superman in Dark Knight Returns, Hush, and many more. Batman is the ultimate badass.

    • Lulz

      Except in the Dark Knight Rises where he loses in a straight up fist fight. He gets his ass handed to him in a completely fair fight one on one brawl. Nolan completely and totally disrespected the character, the fans, and his audience.

      • Ruprect

        You mean like Frank Miller did? I mean he DID have Batman “get his ass handed to him in a completely fair fight one on one brawl” with the leader of the Mutants. Frank Miller must have no respect for the character either. It’s decided.

      • Winning all Da Timez

        You mean the Frank Miller who wrote All Star Batman & Robin? Yeah, him. He doesn’t respect Batman either. BEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTCHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

      • Ruprect

        That’s what I said … Frank Miller does not respect Batman. Glad you agree.

      • Da Realness

        Oh, then we agree. Cool beans. Sorry for the beotch remark.

      • Ruprect

        Not a problem. I don’t expect an apology from a skunk when it sprays or a dog when it barks either. Can’t fight nature.

      • Lulz

        Man, that’s MIGHTY white of you, brah! Also, do you by any chance know where i can find a Trayvon Martin impersonator that’ll come to my house, gather my family in the living room, drop his pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “ACTION”? I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! I’m willing to pay $300 cash. $350 if he can make it taste like CORN. ;-) Lulz!

      • Ruprect

        No, but I know where to find someone who can cut and paste the same inane, remarkably unfunny shit 4 times in the same thread. He shows a distinct lack of imagination AND character in one stroke. No mean feat.

        I imagine he does it just for the attention. Kind of sad that the attention can’t be positive. You know, like from a loved one or close friend or something. Whatever, I’m sure it’s all he can get.

        Good news is that once you know this kind of person exists you can safely ignore them like the intellectual and emotional roadkill they are. Watch, it goes like this …….

      • Chris Nolan

        Hey @disqus_w8REVrIQ6k:disqus, just so you know I don’t post the piss comment. It’s a guy that posts after every comment I make. He feels the need to bring race into it but I don’t find that shit funny. So sorry if the guy who’s pretending to be me gave offence. It’s the lamest card to play and only entitled dickheads, who have never been anything less than entitled their entire lives, play it. So, again, sorry for that. I know my remarks can be fairly liberal with profane language but I try to only take the piss out of empowered assholes like Nolan or Goyer — people who’s millions of dollars will help them sleep at night despite the comments of an outraged fan on the internets. Guys like the piss comment guy are low rent trash though who feel that making light of real life tragedies like Trayvon Martin’s death to score points for a comic book movie made by a populist director are fair game. Fuck people like that.

        His racism actually lends credence to my assertion that Nolanites are ignorant ass tonguers though so thanks for the support piss comment guy!

      • TheMonarch

        So you’re genuinely NOT the urinofetishist? Up to this point I wouldn’t
        have believed it. Well, happy to see you distinguish yourself into a greater
        tier of Lulzbaron, then (i.e. lefthooking the meaty, festering, and
        newly race-playing chud who keeps impersonating you). By the way–and
        though I may not feel the animosity towards Nolan (or his privilege,
        whichever one) that turns your crank–never stop Van-Dyking–it’s not
        just entertainment for mental-defectives anymore.

      • dungeons and draccus’s

        Frank Miller is responsible for some of the best Batman comics ever written: Year One, and The Dark Knight Returns, for two. He basically created a good part of the mythology.

      • Ruprect

        I know and I agree with you. Just sparring with this sad panda Lulz for shits and giggles.

      • dungeons and draccus’s

        That was an old and retired and rusty Batman.

      • TheMonarch

        Worry not, lads! Such grim and serious fare as this will be included alongside other Lulz classics in his upcoming anthology, “Lesser Works of Buzzfeed-Employee Performance Art.” Order today! Operators are standing by. Payment in US Dollars or ziplock baggies of Chris Nolan’s urine only (no glass empties, please).

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