Superman Statue under Construction for BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE

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Production on Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is underway, and although Superman destroyed Metropolis in Man of Steel, it looks like he’s earned himself a commemorative statue for the sequel.  A Michigan native snapped a photo of the statute with a green screen in the background.  This tells us absolutely nothing about the movie, although you can speculate away at why Superman would be getting a statue.

Hit the jump to check out the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice image.  The film opens May 6, 2016 and stars The film also stars Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, Jesse Eisenberg, Amy Adams, Diane Lane, Jeremy Irons, Holly Hunter, Callan Mulvey, Tao Okamoto, and Laurence Fishburne.

Image via Bananadoc via Batman News.  The site also reports that a LexCorp scene will be filmed on June 12th and June 13th.

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Here’s the press note for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice:

Filming is underway on Warner Bros. Pictures’ “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice,” the highly anticipated action adventure from director Zack Snyder, starring Henry Cavill in the role of Clark Kent/Superman, and Ben Affleck as BruceWayne/Batman.

“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” also stars Gal Gadot as Diana Prince/Wonder Woman, with Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane returning from “Man of Steel,” Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, Jeremy Irons as Alfred, and Holly Hunter in a role newly created for the film.

“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice”is written by Chris Terrio, from a screenplay by David S. Goyer.  Charles Roven and Deborah Snyder are producing, with Benjamin Melniker, Michael E. Uslan, Wesley Coller, David S. Goyer and Geoff Johns serving as executive producers.

Principal photography will take place on location at Michigan Motion Picture Studios and on location in and around Detroit, Michigan; Illinois; Africa; and the South Pacific.

Set to open worldwide on May 6, 2016, “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” is based on Superman characters created by Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster, Batman characters created by Bob Kane, and Wonder Woman created by William Moulton Marston, appearing in comic books published by DC Entertainment.




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  • Pierre

    Superman “destroyed” Metropolis saving the Earth…

    • Micky Nozawa

      “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

      Old Vulcan proverb.

      • The Flobbit

        “When fighting a homicidal maniac, remove yourself from crowded areas.”

        Common sense.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Ah but Superman is uncommon, so maybe that’s the problem.

      • gar216

        When fighting a homicidal maniac, you kind of have to go to where the maniac is…

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        You don’t have to stay there though…

      • gar216

        Have you ever seen a UFC fight? How often do either of the equally matched men get to choose exactly what part of the cage that their fight will take place? Not often, they are usually focusing on winning and in superman’s case, not being killed.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        So…you’re comparing a cage – an enclosed space with limits on its boundaries – to an entirely open world? And it was pretty clear in the fight through the city that Zod was willing to pursue Supes. So what does Supes do? He stays tucked in with a bunch of skyscrapers. If your enemy is willing to pursue you and you care about destruction, you exit the populated area. Common sense.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        So…you’re comparing a cage – an enclosed space with limits on its boundaries – to an entirely open world? And it was pretty clear in the fight through the city that Zod was willing to pursue Supes. So what does Supes do? He stays tucked in with a bunch of skyscrapers. If your enemy is willing to pursue you and you care about destruction, you exit the populated area. Common sense.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Many of those buildings were emptied. Say what you want about the logistics of abandoning them, but when they crashed into one, there was no one to be found. Perhaps with his X-Ray vision he could tell most of the buildings were vacant and he used his surroundings as an advantage. Out in space there’s no tactical advantage when fighting a superior opponent. If Superman dies out there, Earth is doomed.

        I don’t blame him for keeping the fight in his backyard.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        The logistics are what matter in a “realistic” take. There was no way the buildings were emptied. Major cities don’t evacuate that quickly. Ever. The system built to evacuate cities (the interstates and highways) can’t handle and weren’t built to handle the volume of people and cars involved in a modern major city evacuation. Now you’re just throwing up random conjecture: “Perhaps he used his X-ray vision” – if he had that much presence of mind, why not completely ensure safety of civilians and move the fight? Superman never had a tactical advantage. Ever. Once Goyer decided that he wanted the Supes kills Zod outcome, the fight was never about tactical advantage. It was about how long should we draw this out before we arbitrarily force Supes to kill Zod. Zod didn’t suddenly decide to kill all humans, that was one of his stated intents right from the start – so why did killing him only then become the solution despite the fact that he was close enough to do it multiple times before? You’re trying to defend a poorly written movie. Why?

      • The Flobbit

        Absolutely. You speak the true-true.

      • The Flobbit

        Absolutely. You speak the true-true.

      • WAldenIV

        Because your logic is totally flawed. Superman didn’t want to kill Zod. He tried every option he could first.

        “Superman never had a tactical advantage. Ever.” Exactly the point. Yet you think Superman could have somehow miraculously taken the fight to an unpopulated area and defeated Zod in a non-lethal way.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Really? EVERY OPTION? We saw him try one: fight Zod in the middle of the city. Did we see him fly off into space? Did we see him even try to pound Zod out of the city limits? The movie is poorly written so that Zod’s death is supposed to feel necessary but we’re never shown a single reason why beyond some heat vision closing in on a family. But at that point, how many people has Zod killed? What makes THAT family the last straw? Nothing did. Just bad writing. Zod wanted what Clark had. He thinks Clark cares about Earth, but if Clark decides to fly off into space and never come back, Zod loses everything he came for in the first place: the codex. So, actually I was wrong: Clark had the only thing Zod wanted after his terraforming failed. And he didn’t use it.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        “Did we see him fly off into space?” Yes. But they came crashing back down to Earth.

        “Did we see him even try to pound Zod out of the city limits?” Yes. But Zod was able to re-take the advantage before they got out of the city.

        Zod no longer needed the Codex after the World Engine and Black Zero ships were destroyed. His hope of re-establishing a world for Kryptonians to inhabit were gone. He no longer needed the Codex so if Superman (instead of attacking Zod) just flew off into space, Zod would’ve been free to carry out his backup plan of killing off mankind.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        “Did we see him fly off into space?” Yes. But they came crashing back down to Earth.

        “Did we see him even try to pound Zod out of the city limits?” Yes. But Zod was able to re-take the advantage before they got out of the city.

        Zod no longer needed the Codex after the World Engine and Black Zero ships were destroyed. His hope of re-establishing a world for Kryptonians to inhabit were gone. He no longer needed the Codex so if Superman (instead of attacking Zod) just flew off into space, Zod would’ve been free to carry out his backup plan of killing off mankind.

      • VladT

        You realize Superman is not an actual entity, correct? He’s imaginary. Kinda like your girlfriend.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Everyone on this thread is aware we’re debating the merits of a movie based on a fictional character.

        Now, if you’re ready to stop making assumptions about my personal life (which my children will take offense to you calling their mother imaginary, as much as she would) we can get back to the debate.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Everyone on this thread is aware we’re debating the merits of a movie based on a fictional character.

        Now, if you’re ready to stop making assumptions about my personal life (which my children will take offense to you calling their mother imaginary, as much as she would) we can get back to the debate.

      • Herve

        no he is not imaginary but philosophical archtype!
        the future of mankind potential!

      • Herve

        no he is not imaginary but philosophical archtype!
        the future of mankind potential!

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        Nonsense. Point me to ONE scene where you see them evacuating those buildings. NONE of them were, which is the problem.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        How about I direct you to watch the scenes where the streets are crowded with people running. Why is it that movie-goers need to be spoon-fed information? Stop taking an “if I didn’t see it, then it didn’t happen” approach.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        It didn’t happen, though I think it’s interesting that you would make up such nonsense.

        Metropolis is supposed to be a major metropolitan city, so depending upon the time of day, there’ll be hundreds of people on the street, going about their business.

        That you somehow imagine that an unseen evacuation happened is little more than that.

        And it’s not a case of spoon feeding anything more than someone saying, “Let’s evacuate these buildings!”

        Using your logic, in Independence Day all those buildings were evacuated too!

        Talking about being spoon-fed!

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Many of those buildings were emptied. Say what you want about the logistics of abandoning them, but when they crashed into one, there was no one to be found. Perhaps with his X-Ray vision he could tell most of the buildings were vacant and he used his surroundings as an advantage. Out in space there’s no tactical advantage when fighting a superior opponent. If Superman dies out there, Earth is doomed.

        I don’t blame him for keeping the fight in his backyard.

      • gar216

        A cage is a much smaller area, and its still hard to decide to take the fight from one side to the other. Imagine trying to take said fight 10-20 miles. That said, we are arguing over fictional characters who could have been scripted to fight anywhere…

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Cage fighters can’t FLY. Also, yes, to your second point. The choice to not even have Supes consider it or attempt it was an entirely arbitrary point of writing.

      • James

        If superman takes off zod stays in metropolis and starts murdering everybody… And I would say superman did pretty dang well considering he just learned to fly 2 days ago.

      • scififan

        The last thing I want to see in a movie about a superhero is any kind of danger or damage to property. I hope that in the sequel everyone is spaced further apart to keep the collateral death rate lower and hopefully Superman will immediately fly directly into the Sun to avoid using his powers in a fight that could save the world (but possibly kill some people that would’ve died anyways). It’s best for the fictional movie background actors if he kills himself before he accidentally and fictionally hurts one.
        Come on.

      • pandapool

        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6BJ1-trrgqc

        What’s that link to you ask? Oh that’s just a video of Supes fighting Shazam, DESTROYING A CITY. I really wish you pansies could find something else to rant about why MoS “sucked.” If you people had ever read a comic or watched any JLU, you would know that when two or more super powered beings get in a fight, shit gets blown up! Lol

      • JohnnyRotten11

        If the homicidal maniac will comply with your humanitarian wishes to relocate in order to minimise the cost to life, most likely he won’t.

      • The Flobbit

        That made no sense. Grammatically or otherwise.

      • JohnnyRotten11

        Makes perfect sense to me, grammar inclusive. Being a pseudo intellectual can be difficult at times.

      • jack

        It made sense grammatically in context with the idiocy you and your buddy Lex are slinging. Zod never would’ve followed Superman. Zod wanted to kill humans more than he wanted to kill Superman. He wanted to watch Superman suffer for destroying the last hope for Krypton. This argument that you fanboys have is so tired. If you want to complain about something how bout Superman going to a random priest for advice when he could have talked to his father who actually knew what Zod was about. That was the dumbest part of the movie.

      • Alien Nation

        I just have to chime in with my $0.02…

        I think the most unnecessary “emotional” scene in the movie was the death of Jonathan Kent. If the world is ever going to be ready for Superman, saving your own father seems like a good time to start letting them know you exist.

        I can wrap my head around the controversial Zod fight, but letting his own father die… Can someone explain THIS?

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        If Superman leaves Earth, then why would Zod think killing humans is hurting Superman or making him suffer. On top of that, Superman leaving Earth means the one thing Zod actually needs to rebuild his race is leaving Earth too. At which point there’s no reason at all to keep killing humans. Problem solved.

      • scififan

        Why doesn’t Superman shoot himself in the head with a Kyptonian pistol in the first three seconds of the sequel? Will that make you happy? If he’s dead, than there’s no chance he will accidentally kill someone while trying to defend 7 billion people. Seriously, it’s the man’s FIRST fight. That is well established. He is inexperienced and is still learning his own strength during the fighting…. so forgive the fictional character if he is written in a way that you disagree with so much. Now can you see that -REALISTICALLY- an inexperienced Superman would fumble on some aspects of his first fight? Or that maybe – just MAYBE – the writers thought that a superhero fist fight should have some collateral damage?

        If you want realism in a movie, then maybe don’t go watch a movie about a superhero. Maybe watch some depressing documentaries about ethics and morals… maybe something like “Why We Fight”?

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        If Superman leaves Earth, then why would Zod think killing humans is hurting Superman or making him suffer. On top of that, Superman leaving Earth means the one thing Zod actually needs to rebuild his race is leaving Earth too. At which point there’s no reason at all to keep killing humans. Problem solved.

      • The Flobbit

        Quite frankly I don’t give a shit and I am tired of arguing over a fictional comic book movie.

        The point is the movie was poorly written, poorly filmed, unnecessary, gratuitous, and illogical.

      • J-Rabb

        “Quite frankly I don’t give a shit and I am tired of arguing over a fictional comic book movie.”

        That’s the kind of thing you say after starting or joining a debate, making a lot of heavy-handed and dunder-headed comments, realising you’re typing a lot but saying nothing at all and then attempting to put the whole thing “above you” because you realise you’re actually being a bit of a dingus…

        Ohhh, and also complaining about other comments not making sense because they make more sense than your own.

        We all know you have an account and a profile picture (ahmahzing!) but that doesn’t lend your opinions any more credence or value than anyone else’s.

      • JohnnyRotten11

        I’d agree, the priest scene (which I think attempts to link S.Man with the whole christ mythos) and the scene where father Kent died were the most unnecessary/poorly executed for me.

      • anubis

        How does everyone keep missing the point on this one? Zod said he was intentionally going to start harming people to get even. If Superman would’ve left to take the fight elsewhere, Zod would’ve stayed to harm people! The fight had to happen there! How do people keep missing this?

      • The Flobbit

        Because Zod is not a mean playground bully who harms lesser beings just to spite his enemy. If you don’t get the following sentence, I can’t explain anything to you: Zod wanted to fight Superman FIRST, and THEN harm humans. Therefore he would have followed Superman where ever he went, to get the Codex. How are you missing THAT?

      • Uio

        Wow. Not only are completely misguided, but you managed to insult
        everyone in this room, get worked up over a fictional movie, and use bad
        grammar. Zero points to you.

      • The Flobbit

        Wow. You morons are stooping so low, you aren’t even trying anymore!

      • The Flobbit

        Wow. You morons are stooping so low, you aren’t even trying anymore!

      • JohnnyRotten11

        This is precisely the point, the arc had gone and hence his ability to reconstitute the kryptonian race also despite the fact the “codex” was still within superman.
        We can’t be certain what Zod would have done if superman attempted to “lure” him away. He may have followed for a time or maybe not at all, he may figured out what supes was up to and not given him the option of minimising collateral damage. Perhaps killing as many humans while simultaneously killing superman was his optimal scenario.
        If you remember back to Superman 2 and even MoS both incarnations of Zod regard S.Man’s devotion to the human race as being his biggest weakness and they use it against him.
        Quote from MoS…

        General Zod: I’m going to make them suffer, Kal. These humans you’ve adopted, I will take them all from you one by one.

        Superman: You’re a monster, Zod, and I’m gonna stop you.

      • l2spell

        *genocidal *crowded

      • The Flobbit

        Genocidal and homicidal both describe Zod. And thanks for catching that typo.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        “Unless you happen to be one of the few.”

        Old Human proverb

      • Micky Nozawa

        Well, shit happens.

      • Micky Nozawa

        Well, shit happens.

    • Huehuehue

      Superman caused damage to 7-11′s glass doors, gaspump & a grain silo, (on his first outting and with his mom in danger, wow so sorry). Punched a guy into a train car loaded with gas and blew it up. He broke a ton of glass on a building dragging Zod’s face through it. The damage to Metropolis was the World Engine (which without Superman was 8 billion deathcount) and Zod.

      Signed, sincerely
      Everyone who WATCHED THE FUCKIN MOVIE.

      Man you mouthbreathers claiming Superman destroyed the city need your cunts kicked in.

      • The Flobbit

        Wow. Not only are completely misguided, but you managed to insult everyone in this room, get worked up over a fictional movie, and use bad grammar. Zero points to you.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        All while saving a pilot from falling to his death, keeping the fight from hitting the buildings with civilians hiding in them and saving Colonel Hardy from certain death at Faora’s hands.

        I, too, wish people paid more attention to the movie but haters gonna hate.

      • marv

        Thank you. You actually watched the flick and you understand that Supes was fighting GODS who caused the destruction. He was just trying to fight them off.

      • The Flobbit

        Gods? They were above-average Kryptonians who happened to have an inbuilt advantage on an inferior race. And I get that he was trying to do the right thing, but he REALLY dropped the ball in trying to do it.

      • Mezmero

        Your never going to win with knowlage like. The movie was about him becoming Superman so he had to learn how to fight as well. Since you want to make it real would you know what to do if you were him? I bet you would shit your pants even with powers LMAO! Your just a butt hurt fanboy no way you could do what he did and save lives you would be to busy crying because you don’t want to hurt anybody LMMFAO!

      • The Flobbit

        Congratulations. Now YOU are the most immature and moronic person on this forum! Welcome to the Troll List.

      • Voice of Reason

        It’s a movie. Settle down before your apnea kicks into overdrive.

      • huehuehue

        Canadian, not American. Just because I swear doesn’t make me angry. Bad news buck-o.

      • Alien Nation

        The World Engine clearly did the large majority of the damage to Metropolis. Even if the two of them wanted to do more destruction than they did, there’s no way they could have kept up with the destruction caused by the World Engine. I mean, in an argument where “common sense” keeps getting cited, this point seems to have the most common sense.

      • Alien Nation

        The World Engine clearly did the large majority of the damage to Metropolis. Even if the two of them wanted to do more destruction than they did, there’s no way they could have kept up with the destruction caused by the World Engine. I mean, in an argument where “common sense” keeps getting cited, this point seems to have the most common sense.

    • Django9000

      Christopher Reeve: “Superman is the antidote to the Rambos and Schwartzennegers of the movie world. You notice in our movies, nobody dies.”

      You mean Snyder killed the essence of Superman in order to save Warners’ rights from going to the family of the guys who created him.

      Here’s hoping the Argo re-write effectively becomes the first Snyder film that actually tells an inspiring story without repulsing audiences w/ too much a) Slo Mo fighting , b) piss poor acting (even from an award winning actress like Amy Adams?? & Michael Shannon? C’ mon. Seriously how does one make them seem SO wooden & unmotivated. It’s like a … superpower in reverse or something) Or c) too much “green screen” acting. (Which the above pic does loads to inspire confidence in).

      Crossing fingers for a quality rewrite. Not holding breath for expectations of director. (Hell, even Chris Nolan could just barely save the last one, as producer.)

      • Yay-yah!

        With all respect to Richard Donner, his Superman movie sucked. I’ve heard the sequel is MUCH better though.

      • Dr. Strange

        The first Snyder film that actually tells an inspiring story?? Have you even watched V for Vendetta and Watchmen? Both prove you wrong! Not defending MoS, just pointing out your flawed generalisation of his other movies.

      • Dr. Strange

        Ok, I just remembered that V for Vendetta isn’t from him but Watchmen is still an awesome movie!

    • Django9000

      Christopher Reeve: “Superman is the antidote to the Rambos and Schwartzennegers of the movie world. You notice in our movies, nobody dies.”

      You mean Snyder killed the essence of Superman in order to save Warners’ rights from going to the family of the guys who created him.

      Here’s hoping the Argo re-write effectively becomes the first Snyder film that actually tells an inspiring story without repulsing audiences w/ too much a) Slo Mo fighting , b) piss poor acting (even from an award winning actress like Amy Adams?? & Michael Shannon? C’ mon. Seriously how does one make them seem SO wooden & unmotivated. It’s like a … superpower in reverse or something) Or c) too much “green screen” acting. (Which the above pic does loads to inspire confidence in).

      Crossing fingers for a quality rewrite. Not holding breath for expectations of director. (Hell, even Chris Nolan could just barely save the last one, as producer.)

    • Matt

      Search: Half in the Bag Episode 55: Man of Steel.

      You’re welcome.

  • Cedhollywood

    “For being involved in thousands and thousands of deaths of metropolis citizens and billions of dollars in property damage,the city of metropolis dedicate this statue to this alien”.

    • ItsNotaSchooner

      Seriously, people keep harping on this. IF you go back and watch, even though there is tons of destruction, there’s not nearly as much as you think you remember. And buildings were being evacuated well before the big rumble between Supes and Zod. Were there deaths? Sure, but it wasn’t as many as people seem to want to think.

      • Person

        People still died doe…

      • ItsNotaSchooner

        Billions were saved

      • The Flobbit

        And that does not make the property damage any less needless, gratuitous, or distasteful. And don’t give me that crap of “it was meant to sicken you.” No, I like Man of Steel, but that was just bad film making.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Billions were saved when they shut down the terraforming things, the fight that came afterward, which was ridiculously, disproportionately destructive was all Superman’s fault and didn’t have nearly the same billions at stake.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Major metropolitan areas take hours upon hours, if not days to evacuate – especially in the middle of a business day with no advance warning. That’s just realism. You know, “realism”, the thing Snyder tried to instill in his Superman movie? Seriously, people keep defending this?

      • bidi

        i like how no one harps on The Avengers for this exact same thing. there are shots of Hulk running through buildings while people are still in them. there had to be a shit ton of deaths in that movie as well

      • Jeremy Flores

        Yeah, but The Avengers actually tried to contain the damage (eg. Cap’s plan post-money shot) and actually tried to save civilians (Hawkeye, Black Widow on bus, Cap rescuing couple dozens of civilians from some of the Chituari). MoS did no such thing other than Clark telling civilians to go inside before the 2v1 battle in Smallville. Faora <3

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Bingo.

      • bidi

        true. i get that. but didn’t Superman snap Zod’s neck to save that family as well? he was certainly trying to help people. and how many of those giant chitauri dragon things crashed all throughout New York? assumed deaths there as well. just like in MoS

      • The Flobbit

        Major difference: no skyscraper actually fell. They got ravaged, just like in Pacific Rim and Winter Soldier, but they did not topple like dominos. People always die during superhero fights, but Man of Steel just took it to a new level of casual violence.

      • bidi

        i agree. and it’s something i want to see blockbusters (especially superhero movies) get away from. but to say that MoS was shit because Superman destroyed the city just isn’t true. i agree the destruction was gratuitous, but it was no more than what goes on in other movies that don’t get ripped as hard

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Well yeah, that’s not the ONLY reason MoS was shit. Pa Kent’s death? Laughable. I actually laughed out loud.

      • The Flobbit

        Not only was it laughable, it was bloody unnecessary!

      • Jeremy Flores

        as a dog lover, I’m glad he/she survived :)

      • The Flobbit

        As a human lover, I wish he didn’t.

      • Jeremy Flores

        It’s impossible to stop Goyer. People will die on his watch.

      • The Flobbit

        There are many terrible ways to die, but to die on David Goyer’s watch is truly depraved. My personal Casio has a firm non-violence standpoint.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        SAVE THE DOG, SAVE THE WORLD!

      • The Flobbit

        Blockbusters need to stop thinking that they can raise the stakes and make cool action scenes by toppling big falling things. X-Men Days of Future Past showed (with a bare minimum of destruction) that you can make action scenes riveting and awesome WITHOUT destroying giant structures.

        And MoS was not sh-t, but it was poor for a great number of reasons: the color palette, the lack of humor or general levity, the tone, and the plot.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        They did kind of destroy a baseball stadium. EDIT: but in the coolest way possible.

      • The Flobbit

        Oh please, that baseball stadium was in perfect working order when Magneto was through with it!

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        In the sense that people could still sit in it and watch a whole lot of not much happen?

      • The Flobbit

        Why absolutely! Come to think of it…that’s interesting. Did the army come in and chop it up, cart it away? Did the Sentinels lift it on their backs and carry it away?

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Kind of feel like no one was trusting the sentinels with anything after that movie.

      • The Flobbit

        Question: So if Mystique killed Trask in the original timeline, why did it take 60 years for the Sentinels to destroy the world? Where were they hiding during the events of Origins to The Wolverine?

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Was it 60 years? I thought that was supposed to be a really dystopian present.

      • The Flobbit

        No, it was a dystopian future that takes place 10 years after The Wolverine.

      • Jeremy Flores

        Oh yeah, forgot about that (and I did not mind Clark going for the kill). The Avengers also went out to show some memorials/people mourning (I think; with some flowers and pictures on fences/sidewalks/etc) during that post-battle news montage (along with the Stan Lee cameo) and what Flobbit said.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Yeah but killing is wrong, so Superman should not have done that. But since Avengers made jokes it’s okay for them to kill their alien invaders.

        #sarcasm #doublestandard

      • The Flobbit

        #hashtagsareforlamehipsterswhoneedalife

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Let’s not be insulting. I don’t mind debating but I don’t think insults add to anyone’s argument.

      • The Flobbit

        #okletsnotinsultoneanother

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Let’s not be insulting. I don’t mind debating but I don’t think insults add to anyone’s argument.

      • WAldenIV

        And it’s totally unrealistic to think that a bloodless Superman could exist in the real world. The amount of death and destruction shown the movie would likely occur if super strength alien combatants went at it on Earth. Superman used his powers for a matter of hours before facing trained warriors with no regard for human life. You can’t have “realism” without death and destruction.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Who said anything about a bloodless or destruction-free superman? The issue is a thoughtless Superman who makes no effort to relocate a fight.

      • WAldenIV

        You assume Zod gives a crap about pursuing Superman. Zod threatened the entire planet. He wanted to terraform it and kill the entire population. He only need the codex from Kal-el. He could kill him before or after.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        They prevented the terraforming. The fight scene was just gratuitous to make an excuse for Zod neck breaking.. And if Zod really NEEDED that codex, don’t you think he’d follow him if he zoomed off into space? It’s a bluff on Superman’s part, sure, but Zod needed the Codex, Superman didn’t need Earth. If Superman escapes and Zod never finds him, his mission and purpose is a failure.

      • WAldenIV

        But then Zod would have followed-through with his threat to wipe out the entire planet while Clark plays hide and seek.

      • The Flobbit

        I think Lex just shredded your argument to pieces. But I admire your dogged persistence.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Zod kills people because he knows it’ll keep Clark in play so he can fight. If Zod has to choose between punishing a foe that has flown off and whom he may never see again or pursuing that foe because he has what he actually needs, a tactically trained individual will choose the latter over a tactic that isn’t having the desired effect anyways.

      • The Flobbit

        Honestly, I am surprised this guy is even arguing at this point…

      • https://www.facebook.com/MyPassion4Life?ref=hl Javan Clark

        No.

        After losing what was left of the Kryptonian race to the phantom zone, Zod made his purpose clear, to destroy humanity, in a form of quid pro quo. The codex, Kal El, creatinng a new Krypton all became secondary issues. Zod was clear. “I am going to make the suffer, Kal”.. the only thing stoping that was Superman. If he had fled the scene, Zod would have begun wiping humanity of the face of the earth, beginning with what was left of Metropolis.

        I understand your grief. I have been a fan of Superman for over thirty years.. but this movie was fun, and if you can suspend your disbelief for the running time, you will enjoy it itoo. Not everything should require an explanation. Kind of like Clark’s Glasses. Shoudl they hide his identity? Not at all. But they do, and for the most part, we’re all just fine that they do.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        “The codex, Kal El, creatinng a new Krypton all became secondary issues.”

        On what basis do you make that assumption? The codex was still the salvation of his species. A militarily, tactically minded person doesn’t just decide all hope is lost if the very hope he was still actively trying to get (the codex) is still attainable. Thus: above all else, Zod need’s Superman’s corpse. If Superman leaves, Zod has nothing and truly fails. Vengeance or not, you don’t keep employing a tactic (killing all humans) if the reason you were employing that tactic (to torture Superman) isn’t working – which would be the case if he left. It’s bad writing on Goyer’s part because he wanted his Supes kills Zod ending so badly he sacrifices common sense to make it happen.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        But Zod is no scientist. All his technology to use the codex and restore his species were destroyed.

        Everything was taken from him. The codex is no good, without the means to use it.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        You don’t know that he has no means to use it. That’s an assumption. There was talk of countless colonies across the universe, who’s to say there wasn’t more Kryptonian tech to be salvaged? Or other ships like the one frozen on Earth. It’s just sloppy storytelling. And come on, if you knew the hope to revive your species still existed, you’d still retrieve it in the hopes of finding a way to use it. IF it was that important to you, which Zod insists it was to him, he still wanted the codex.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Because Zod already told Kal-El that they explored the other colonies and salvaged what they could. Also, Zod said he has no people. Meaning, the codex is useless.

        It’s not an assumption, it’s called paying attention to the facts given.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Because Zod already told Kal-El that they explored the other colonies and salvaged what they could. Also, Zod said he has no people. Meaning, the codex is useless.

        It’s not an assumption, it’s called paying attention to the facts given.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        How about lost scout ships like on Earth? Does he know those have all vanished or are all destroyed? Also, Kryptonians aren’t the only alien race in the universe. Why you wouldn’t recover the DNA legacy of your people in the hopes of someday finding a way to resurrect them makes no sense if that was supposedly your motivation from the get-go. Again, really bad writing by Goyer.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        I guess it’s too hard for you to allow a character to be flawed for getting caught up in the moment and feeling a sense of helplessness when everything has just been taken from him.

        Shakespeare must’ve been a bad writer too, because he had a lot of flawed characters. The literary world is full of flawed characters. If they were all perfect and had time to analyze everything, they’d be boring and it would prevent stories from being climactic.

        Like the military thinking the best (and only) plan of attack is sending nukes into NYC in Avengers. Why not start with an organized military strike?

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        You’re mistaking bad writing for flawed characters. Crafting a great flawed character takes excellent writing because their problems need to be deeply rooted and not mere cosmetic flourishes added for the perception of depth – the latter is all Goyer knows how to do. Zod wasn’t flawed, he was subject to shifting motivations due to a writer who knew what he wanted but couldn’t come up with a sensible way to get there. So instead he goes for some visuals instead hoping they’ll distract from the wild shift in Zod’s characterization (he –according to you — no longer cares about resurrecting his species, even though it’s not at all set in stone that such a goal is hopeless, and now just wants to kill people, a motivation that’s utterly shallow considering how poorly Clark’s caring for humanity was portrayed and which serves no purpose beyond hurting a character who could easily disprove this tactic as effective by leaving.

        I don’t know why you think offering up a flaw in another movie proves your point. Talk about a straw man. Weak debate skills.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        But Zod is no scientist. All his technology to use the codex and restore his species were destroyed.

        Everything was taken from him. The codex is no good, without the means to use it.

      • https://www.facebook.com/MyPassion4Life?ref=hl Javan Clark

        No.

        After losing what was left of the Kryptonian race to the phantom zone, Zod made his purpose clear, to destroy humanity, in a form of quid pro quo. The codex, Kal El, creatinng a new Krypton all became secondary issues. Zod was clear. “I am going to make the suffer, Kal”.. the only thing stoping that was Superman. If he had fled the scene, Zod would have begun wiping humanity of the face of the earth, beginning with what was left of Metropolis.

        I understand your grief. I have been a fan of Superman for over thirty years.. but this movie was fun, and if you can suspend your disbelief for the running time, you will enjoy it itoo. Not everything should require an explanation. Kind of like Clark’s Glasses. Shoudl they hide his identity? Not at all. But they do, and for the most part, we’re all just fine that they do.

      • WAldenIV

        And it’s totally unrealistic to think that a bloodless Superman could exist in the real world. The amount of death and destruction shown the movie would likely occur if super strength alien combatants went at it on Earth. Superman used his powers for a matter of hours before facing trained warriors with no regard for human life. You can’t have “realism” without death and destruction.

      • Tom

        I believe Vincent LaGuardia Gambini would provide the following analysis:

        Hey, an alien fuckin race is invading the planet. They land in Metropolis. They unleash a terra-fuckin-forming weapon in a crowded city. There is no way shits not getting blown up. I rest my case.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        No one’s talking about the death and blowing upness caused by the terraforming weapon. This is about the fight that came after that. That was preventable.

      • Tom

        I believe Vincent LaGuardia Gambini would provide the following analysis:

        Hey, an alien fuckin race is invading the planet. They land in Metropolis. They unleash a terra-fuckin-forming weapon in a crowded city. There is no way shits not getting blown up. I rest my case.

      • Cedhollywood

        It was a lot of destruction and for the director who wanted to make a “real world” superman movie glossed over a “real world” tragedy that ensued after a city was literally demolished.

        http://www.buzzfeed.com/jordanzakarin/man-of-steel-destruction-death-analysis

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  • Person

    The people of Metropolis love Superman for saving them and keeping them safe after the Zod fiasco, and build him this statue, causing Lex to become jealous (what with his God complex and all) and begin his anti-Supes crusade, which will bring Batman into the mix. I have spoken.

    • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

      Batman v Superman’s Lex Luthor will be the voice of movie critics who thought Superman:
      A) Should have saved more people
      B) Caused the destruction
      C) Should’ve taken the fight somewhere else
      D) Not murdered someone in ‘cold blood’
      E) All of the Above

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        So you’re saying Lex Luthor will be the voice of reason? Damn Goyer really is turning the Superman mythology on its head.

  • millerscd

    That’s it. Let’s blame Superman for stopping the bad guys. You know… Because if he had left them alone no one would have died right?

    • Farrell

      lol

    • The Flobbit

      We blame Superman for ravaging a crowded city and destroying countless structures and public properties.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Not in real life though; in real life we call those hurricanes.

      • The Flobbit

        Hurricane Clark. A truly devastating storm.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Not as devastating as Tornado Kent Killer

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Yes, he should’ve just left Zod alone after he proclaimed that he would take the life of every human being on the planet.

      • The Flobbit

        Wow. I am glad you do not write the scripts. He should have shut off the Infinity machines, and taken Zod (punched him all the way, if he had to) to an unpopulated area like farmland or a forest, where they could battle to their hearts content.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Why do you assume it would be so easy to just pick up a trained combatant (when you have no experience in fighting at all) and take him to a “farmland or forest”.

        Like Zod would let that happen. Oh wait…he didn’t.

      • The Flobbit

        No experience at fighting? Last I saw, Superman battled two skilled Kryptonian warriors (and destroyed a shitload of stuff there too) and came out on top. And who said it would be easy? Nothing is easy, but what Superman did was stupid.

        And last I remember, it was Superman who broke Zod’s neck, and not the other way around. And remember that Superman is used to Earth’s gravity and the sensory overload, and that experience is still relatively new to Zod.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        That experience came hours before the final fight. Not exactly experience you think about and analyze to improve yourself. He had bigger things to worry about, like stopping the world engine.

        He did it to save the human race (not just the family that was in immediate danger). So while he had his arms wrapped tightly around Zod’s neck your suggesting he get up and fly away with him to a field…to do what exactly? Ask him to stop (tried that already)? Ask him to go away? Put him in a prison (that doesn’t exist) that can hold a Kryptonian gone mad?

      • The Flobbit

        I love your attempts to rationalize a character who dresses in spandex and flies around stopping crime. Zack Snyder should try that sometime.

        All I am suggesting is that Superman should have done something to prevent the wanton destruction at the hands of Zod, and mostly himself. He could kill him if he wanted, but try – just TRY to save some innocents and public property while you’re at it?

      • millerscd

        Have you ever been in a crowded bar when I fight broke out? Other people get run over and trampled on. It’s not like it’s intentional. It just happens because of the situation.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        I’ve seen a hundred bar fights where one of the guys takes the fight to a field or abandoned parking lot by running away or dragging the other guy with him.

        No, not really, but that’s what people expect Superman to do. Can you imagine?

      • millerscd

        Excuse me Zod. I know you want to kick my ass right now but would you please fly down the road with me a few miles. We wouldn’t want anyone to get hurt.

      • millerscd

        Excuse me Zod. I know you want to kick my ass right now but would you please fly down the road with me a few miles. We wouldn’t want anyone to get hurt.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Are you serious? This happens all the time. Ever heard the phrase “Take it outside”? It comes from bartenders telling two patrons to not fight inside and go outside. Guess what? That usually happens. So yeah, there’s precedent.

      • millerscd

        It’s usually too late for discussions. You are referring to a proverbial pissing contest where one person waits for the other to throw the first punch. In a real fight all reasoning and logic are out the window. This is what we see in MOS. It’s a street brawl

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Not true at all. I’ve seen plenty of fights interrupted, sent outside and then resumed. And in the case of MoS, it ‘s the failure of the fighter (Superman) for not attempting to do just that.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Not true at all. I’ve seen plenty of fights interrupted, sent outside and then resumed. And in the case of MoS, it ‘s the failure of the fighter (Superman) for not attempting to do just that.

      • Millerscd

        Superman is acting like a human. If someone was threatening my mother, I would lay down a massive ass beating. To hell with everything else. No of these arguments hold any water. Zod is not someone you can reason with. He wouldn’t have let Superman lead him away from collateral damage. He wanted collateral damage

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        That’s funny, because up until the final 20 minutes of the movie, all he really wanted was to repopulate/recreate Krypton. The only way to do that was in Superman, so yes, he would have let him had Goyer not shifted his character motivation suddenly just so he could have his Supes kills Zod ending.

      • The Flobbit

        Are you likening a fight between two incredibly powerful beings who can fly to a brawl in a bar?

  • Jared

    While I understand why the purist type fans got angry over the destruction and Supes not trying to get everyone out of the way. I also don’t get why they can’t just go ahead and get over it already, it happened and it’s not going away. Also, the iteration given in MoS never so much as threw a single punch in his life against a person because he knew it would likely kill them; then out of nowhere there are beings who are just as strong as him and are intent on doing him harm. He’s never fought before and is thrown into a life-or-death situation that he never thought possible on this planet. His first instinct, as expected of anyone in such a situation, is survival. Let’s just see if his actions have consequences in this next film. I personally thought it would be interesting to have Metallo introduced through Lex Luthor as a man out to avenge the loss of his family in the Attack on Metropolis and the ensuing destructive fight; as he sees Superman as the cause of Zod’s invasion.

    • The Flobbit

      Stop trying to make Superman some sort of wide-eyed doe who just does what he has to do to survive. It was a major part of this iteration that Superman sometimes lost his temper and was immature. Superman handled a bad situation as well as can be expected, but the destruction was ugly and gratuitous.

      P.S. I would personally love to see Braniac in a movie!

  • Micky Nozawa

    “…you can speculate away at why Superman would be getting a statue.”

    Because he stopped the genocide of mankind, perhaps?

    • awer

      I think you’re on to something…

    • huehuehue

      So someone with an IQ over 90 DOES exist and has seen the same Man of Steel as me!

  • Faptain America

    Looks like Superman is going bowling.

    • Roderick

      …or he’s bending down to snap someone’s neck!

  • The Flobbit

    Pure speculation below. Reasons why Superman has got a statue:
    - He dies fighting a villain and is honored with one. The world finally accepts him.
    - Superman gets his own theme park, which Batman envies.
    - Lex Luthor builds one, and hides a secret horrible device inside. Nobody suspects.
    - It is just a passing site that will be destroyed in a climactic, gritty fight.
    - Bruce Wayne builds it, to honor Superman’s deeds in the first film. This is how we meet him.

    • Roderick

      - Clark Kent builds it, to honor “that great hero Superman – I wonder who he is!” Everyone around him exchanges embarassed glances.

    • herpderp

      Batman being jealous of a Superman theme park? Yea I dont think that quite feels in character of Batman.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        And have you ever been on Six Flags’ Batman? It kicks the ass of the Superman ride any day of the week. Batman has nothing to be jealous of.

      • The Flobbit

        Depends which Batman. I can totally picture George Clooney’s Batman taking out his Bat-credit card (kaching!) and saying “It’s a-bat time I got one of those.”

      • Person

        I almost want another Clooney Batman just so he could use that line.

  • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

    Obviously it’s the setup for a huge twist where this entire iteration of the DC world takes place in the Bizarro reality where wanton death and destruction at the hands of a hero is applauded instead of condemned. In the third act, they’ll find a portal and go back to normal non-Bizarro reality annnnnnd I still can’t be bothered to care.

    • WAldenIV

      I’m sure you can read bloodless, deathless, no real stakes at all comics if you don’t like the movies.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Again, no issue with blood or death, but when it’s due to incompetence by the hero it’s hard to rationalize celebrating that hero or even calling them a hero.

  • herpderp

    The benefit of superman fucking up asshole truckers trucks and saving school buses sure does justify him being at Earth which was the only Reason Zod came there and killed thousands.

  • joe

    This movie looks like its shaping up to be a bad, bad saturday morning cartoon: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWN of JUUUUUUUSTICE….
    technically, they should be erecting a statue of Batman ’cause after this flick, he’s a goner, as in Gone, Baby Gone.
    And Ben Affleck is going to go down in history as the dude who killed Batman. He will be forever known as Ben ‘Box Office Poison’ Affleck.

    • The Flobbit

      Cue the morons saying that “because Heath Ledger surprised us, Ben Affleck and every other crappy actor will too!”

      3…2…1…

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Uma Thurman surprised us with how good her Poison Ivy was. Give Affleck a chance! – said no one ever.

      • Flubber

        ” Que the morons saying that “because Heath Ledger surprised us, Ben Affleck and every other crappy actor will too!” ”

        *Cue (because I know how to spell, unlike some morons) the morons saying that “because I saw Ben Affleck in some poor movies once, everything he will ever do is tainted and I can’t get over it!”

        3…2…oh, wait, you’ve already started Flobber?

    • WAldenIV

      I guess you haven’t seen “Gone, Baby, Gone”, “The Town”, or “Argo”.

      • Mattman

        STOP TALKING SENSE!

      • Greyhound

        It’s okay WAldenIV, Lex and Flobbit have an opinion that they share and no one else is allowed to think any different about anything.

        Because they are both, equally, being bags of dicks.

  • Joseph M

    Batman flew out to the ocean to save the city. While fighting Zod and smashing up the joint, Superman – the dingus – didn’t. This makes me think Batman will be the brains of this dynamic duo. Superman..SMASH! Wait…wrong film.

    • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

      Batman flew an inanimate object out of the city.

      Superman fought a being who was a highly skilled combatant, trained to kill that was slowly growing more powerful than he was as the fight dragged on.

      Way to dumb it down. Next time your in a fight with someone that has superior skills, just drag him to a field. Let us know how that works out for you.

      • The Flobbit

        Zod’s fight was with Superman, and Superman alone, and therefore he would go where Superman would go. All it would take would be for Superman to fly out of town and then fight his “highly skilled combatant:.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        You didn’t pay much attention to Zod’s final speech. He said he would take the life of every person on the planet. Zod was out for blood, Superman was just getting in the way.

      • The Flobbit

        Well, at that moment, Zod was trying to kill Superman – the individual who wiped out his race. His quarrel was not for the lesser beings literally beneath his feet.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        There was nothing but ash literally beneath his feet at that moment. And yes, because Superman said he was going to stop him he figured he would defend himself. Get Supes out of the way and then kill humans.

        Superman proved to be a nuisance that wouldn’t stop fighting him. So one of them had to die and Zod had nothing to live for.

      • The Flobbit

        I was speaking of the times when Zod flew and looked down on the mere humans living their petty lives on the earth. And you can throw out your petty little conjectures on this and that, and quibble on that minute detail, but it does not change the facts that Superman could have handled the fight in such a way that the city was not harmed as much.

        For that matter, Zack Snyder and Goyer could have written a better movie.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        There was nothing but ash literally beneath his feet at that moment. And yes, because Superman said he was going to stop him he figured he would defend himself. Get Supes out of the way and then kill humans.

        Superman proved to be a nuisance that wouldn’t stop fighting him. So one of them had to die and Zod had nothing to live for.

      • Mattman

        “I’m going to make them suffer, Kal. These humans you’ve adopted, I will take them all from you one by one.”

        Yeah, Superman alone.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        Oh good, someone else that watched the movie (and paid attention).

      • The Flobbit

        In that moment, if you would actually see the movie, (and read this carefully) Zod does not go after any humans, he goes to fight SUPERMAN. So first he fought Superman alone, and then it was his plan to destroy humanity.

      • Mattman

        So reading that again and actually watching the movie, do you *really* think that Zod would’ve followed Superman out of the city to fight him or allowed Superman to take him out of the city?

      • The Flobbit

        Watch the movie again. Do you see that scene where Superman punches Zod along the skyline of Metropolis? Why could he not have kept that up until HE WAS CLEAR OF THE CITY?

      • Loso_Rocks

        Have you ever been in a fight? You can’t dictate where and how the fight is going to happen. It just happens. If he saw Superman fly away, you don’t think he would know what he was doing. He would start picking people off one by one just to piss Supes off more. Besides, in the beginning of the fight he had to deal with Zod’s wholes army plus the Military. I don’t think he was thinking about anything other than surviving.

      • Joseph M

        Hate to tell you this, but I don’t have superpowers. However, if I suddenly develop some and find myself in a fight with an even more super-powered person, and we’re destroying skyscrapers and endangering life…I’ll be sure to take your awesome advice.

      • Joseph M

        Hate to tell you this, but I don’t have superpowers. However, if I suddenly develop some and find myself in a fight with an even more super-powered person, and we’re destroying skyscrapers and endangering life…I’ll be sure to take your awesome advice.

  • khb

    Superman statue is about to pull of a spin-a-roonie.

  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    Confusion over all of the anger towards MOS. The comparisons w The Avengers is funny as both films have the exact same climactic ending of an alien force against a team of heroes vs. (or V in DC’s case) a single hero. Was New York not completely demolished by giant alien creatures and an army of Chitari that were all left in NY? Yet there seems to be no anger or confusion over the state of NY is like or that fact that all of these dead aliens are littered all over the place – even after 3 films barely any mention or shots of NY? CATW was fantastic but that was really my only gripe was there was no talk of NY from The Avengers and explaining the city wide destruction and likely thousands of deaths that resulted from it. I guess they just simply moved on.
    One film, The Avengers, used the tactic – shiny, bright visuals with funny, snappy one-liners to showcase their city wide destruction. And they pulled it off beautifully as it made me forget that the building next door collapsed – probably killing thousands of people inside – because the Hulk punched Thor and made me laugh.
    While the other film, MOS, used a dour, more serious approach to the city wide destruction – something that should be a shocking site to see filled w terror. Granted it was about 10 min too long. That’s whats exciting about the sequel is this is a catalyst to what brings in Batman and will be a theme explored in the film.
    I love both films as they are both great films so I’m not an advocate of the whole DC vs. Marvel. I’m a fan of having rival studios making great films as it forces the other to react and come up with something better.

    • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

      Snyder’s vision of a more realistic approach worked. The more people bitch about the loss of life, the more we realize how truly affected movie-goers were by watching MoS.

      Meanwhile loss of life < witty one-liners when dealing with the 'fun factor' that was the Avengers. A movie that showed people still hard at work in a building during an alien invasion before Hulk comes crashing in.

      We were shocked and in awe when Superman killed Zod quick and painlessly.
      We laughed as Hulk brutally beat Loki senseless and left him broken.

      • The Flobbit

        Snyder’s vision: 57% Rotten Tomatoes. 660+ mil wordlwide.
        Whedon’s vision: 92% Rotten Tomatoes. 1.5 billion worldwide.

        Want to tell me again which one worked?

      • Mattman

        People obviously like comedy with their city destruction.

      • The Flobbit

        People obviously like fun with their action!
        Another way of putting it…

      • Mattman

        “Fun” and genocide don’t quite go together in my opinion…

      • The Flobbit

        Well sadly, in that glorious world of comic book films, they make quite a happy marriage.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Nonsense all Darfur, Rwanda, Armenia, or the Holocaust needed was a great soundtrack, I’m thinking “Everything is Awesome” followed by “Let it Go” then maybe a little “Jump in the Line”. You’ll never look at genocide the same way again! It’s toe-tappingly tragic!

      • Not A Joke

        I stuck Carnival music on top of footage of 9/11.

        People loved it.

      • Sarcasm

        THE BEST MOVIE EVER MADE WILL BE THE ONE THAT MAKES THE MOST MONEY THAT IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS I HEART CAPITALISM I WISH I OWNED MORE THINGS I LIKE THAT I DON’T HAVE TO HAVE AN OPINION BECAUSE THE INTERNET TELLS ME WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT ISN’T.

      • The Flobbit

        Sarcasm noted.

      • Moby Dick Was A Lonely Prick

        Is it lonely living so far up your own ass?

      • The Flobbit

        Sarcasm noted.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        You’re confusing two things which don’t necessarily have anything to do with one another: impact on the audience and the audience’s noticing of poor writing. The Avengers covered all of its bases, even if the effort was somewhat shallow. There’s no history of the Avengers being squeamish about killing their enemies (and yes, I’m aware even Superman has broken that rule a fair number of times), but they also made many examples of trying to contain the damage and organize an evacuation of that specific part of the city. Also, Loki clearly wasn’t broken, he was walking minutes later. By contrast, Zod was actually dead. A writing choice that dictated the final 30 minutes of MoS (the odds didn’t have to be so far against Superman, that’s just what Goyer chose to make killing Zod seem feasible).

    • The Flobbit

      I think the fact is, is that Superman:
      A. Did not have to stay in Metropolis when Zod’s fight was with him.
      B. Fought in a careless, heedless manner towards the city of Metropolis.

      The Avengers had no choice but to fight in New York – they could not contain the threat of thousands of Chitauri, and while buildings WERE destroyed, they did not topple over and collide into each other like giant dominos. Secondly, I am surprised to disagree with you about Winter Soldier. I was so glad they didn’t mention “New York” for the 847th time after aping it to heaven in Iron Man 3 and Thor 2.

      And superhero films (or at least, the heart of a Superman film) are not meant to be shocking. They are meant to entertain and enthrall us. Snyder’s climax lacked subtlety and was overblown and needlessly destructive.

      • Mattman

        Zod is quoted in the movie that he was going to kill every human so it’s not as simplistic as saying his fight was with Superman and that he would’ve definitely followed him out of the city.

      • Django9000

        Zod’s motivation for wanting to Terra form the Earth was, unfortunately, loads more believable than all other characters motivation for doing anything in that film. And that’s being generous to his motivation and it’s portrayal.

        Lois loves Superman.. Pa Kent sacrifices self … Clark beats up his own people in favor of a people who’ve inspired him to protect them how? … Hologram Crowe walks Lois thru means of resolving entire clusterf@@# of a movie Why?

        Because Reasons. And now it’s Lex, Cyborg, Wonder Woman & Batman’s turn to get in on Super – reasonable man’s uninspiring action.

      • Mattman

        Ah, yeah. Sure.

      • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

        I don’t think Superman had a choice as Zod stated that he was going to kill every human on the planet as that was his way of “hurting” Superman. As Superman had taken his sole reason for living – killing what was left of Krypton. Had Superman left then people would have been murdered by Zod – a soldier who was bred for that w in his DNA.
        I’m not stating that MOS was a masterpiece, there are areas I would love to see small changes (the washed out color look of the film, lack of humor in certain areas, and more time explored w Clark Kent in the present) but I do think it did a great job of shaking up the superhero genre by changing the way we view things – such as city wide destruction – as an atrocious and scary act.
        My thoughts is that Marvel never really showed how the attack in NY affected the world and it’s heroes. It was lightly expressed but was never more than just breifly mentioned. It totally missed, IMO, a squandered opportunity to show an emotional side to it’s heroes, especially Bruce Banner, of all the destruction that he caused in the fight or failed to get to because of the growing number of alien forces.

      • Mattman

        Why should they show the affect it had on the world and it’s heroes? They cracked jokes and ate shawarma, isn’t this enough?

      • The Flobbit

        Two things:
        1. If the destruction of Metropolis was meant to be atrocious and scary, then I would hail Man of Steel as a masterpiece. But it was not meant to be that, and it did not come across to me, or the majority of the average filmgoer to be that. It just came over as Too. Much.
        2. Nobody on earth watches Marvel movies for their emotional content. They watch it to see shooting things, and flying things, and falling things, and funny things. If we wanted to see Bruce Banner go through post-traumatic stress and guilt…Marvel would have greenlit a miniseries directed by Ron Howard, starring Bryan Cranston as Banner.

        And nobody would have wanted that.

  • MJ

    Why would they build him a statue when his presence killed so many? I would thing that he’d be persona non grata in Metropolis?

    • The Flobbit

      Yes, he killed way too many and destroyed too much…but there would not be a Metropolis, or even an Earth if his presence was not there.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Is that true? Do you think Zod would really have even been there if not for Supes? His presence activated the beacon that led Zod there. Also, Earth would have been inconsequential without the knowledge it was harboring a hidden Kryptonian.

      • The Flobbit

        Hrm…well, assuming he was there (which he was), Metropolis still owes him a lot.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        “In appreciation for your help, Superman. Choose the biggest piece of rubble. It’s yours.”

      • MJ

        Yea, that’s the issue. It’ be like, OK, you are going to stop a few bank robberies and some gun violence now, so we will forget about the 2000 dead people and the major destruction of our city center…no problem, Supes, catch those bank robbers!

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        I think that’s as passive aggressive a reward any city can give to a hero.

      • MJ

        Yea, but he’s and alien who’s presence could be argued led to that destruction. I hardly think he’d be welcome there after that?

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        This is exactly what Lex Luthor’s motivation/argument will be.

        If Superman wasn’t on Earth, they wouldn’t have needed him to save the planet from destruction in the first place.

      • http://comic-book-nerd.blogspot.com/ SJ Mitchell

        This is exactly what Lex Luthor’s motivation/argument will be.

        If Superman wasn’t on Earth, they wouldn’t have needed him to save the planet from destruction in the first place.

      • MJ

        Yea, but he’s and alien who’s presence could be argued led to that destruction. I hardly think he’d be welcome there after that?

    • Strong Enough

      Where did he kill people? the city was 99 percent empty when he was fighting. While Superman was engaging in battle half way across the world with the other world engine, people in the city are evacuating because you know there is a BIG ASS MACHINE leveling the fuckin city.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        By what stretch of the imagination was the city 99 percent empty?

      • MJ

        Strong Enough typically “shoots first” and thinks later here.

        Obviously, you have hundreds of thousands of people still in building basements, subways, storm shelters. Many were obviously buried alive under the carnage of rubble from the fight. 2000 dead would be a minimalist guesstimate.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Nevermind that you can’t evacuate a city, even when it’s well organized, in hours, or even in a day. It’s a massive process that we don’t have infrastructure for (especially if the city is landlocked which Metropolis seems to be). It’s the Clerks Death Star contractors argument all over again: ideally yes, we’d like to believe it’s simple, but in actuality the world is more complex than just “everybody evacuated instantly”.

      • MJ

        Agreed! Yea, we all get it except for that one dude here.

      • The Flobbit

        Unfortunately he ones who don’t get it have the biggest freaking mouths.

      • Strong Enough

        I never said people didn’t die. But everyone assumes it was thousands of people when its fuckin obvious the city was practically empty.

      • Strong Enough

        How is it so hard to comprehend? Perry White along with hundreds from the city were running away from the big ass machine destroying the city. When Superman came back and fought Zod you didn’t see any people running in teh streets. or in buildings. I’m not saying the WHOLE city was DESERTED but most of the people were gone.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        If this take on superman wants to claim realism, then no, in no way was Metropolis even close to empty. Evacuating an entire major city is impossible to do in a matter of hours and probably can’t even be done in a day anymore thanks to our interstates and highways not having been proportionately expanded for the number of cars on the road now. So no, Metropolis was very much still populated and quite full when that fight started and ended.

      • Strong Enough

        First of all “it’s a movie” so if you can believe an alien crashing to earth and fighting then you can’t believe most of a city evacuating? And second. The movie time and our time aren’t linear. Hours could have passed until Superman and Zod started to really fight giving the city a huge amount of time to leave. Remember he escaped his cell, talked to his father, went to the indian ocean, battled with a world machine, then flew all the way back and destroyed that one. The people in the impact zone of the world machine are probably dead because of it’s power. The people in the middle to outskirts are already at the outskirts and the people on the outskirts are already gone. Of course their are people who probably got hurt because of the fight. But like Goyer said. He wasn’t truly Superman until the end of the film. This was his first time putting on the cape and saving the world. Besides when you have a super charged monster man stampeding towards you it’s hard to fight without breaking things. I mean they flew through a few buildings. Who the fuck did they really kill? lmao

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        I know it’s a movie, but I also know that Goyer claimed he was doing a “realistic” take on Superman. Realism involves a major metropolitan city not being able to evacuate in 4 hours or less. Not by a long shot. You greatly overestimate the ability of people to move long distances when EVERYBODY for miles is trying to do the same. You’d have mass traffic jams to the point of no movement whatsoever. The majority of Metropolis had no where to go. The movie shows buildings literally toppling like dominos. They did quite a bit more than just fly through a few buildings. They killed thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands.

      • Strong Enough

        Realistic means the superhero crap is grounded in reality. Alien comes to Earth, etc etc. All the other movie magic is still there. It’s still a movie. To say that Superman killed HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS is ludicrous. First of all let’s assume for a minute he did kill that amount, what the hell is he going to do? Zod is an animal that is doing everything he can to destroy EVERYTHING in sight during the fight and Superman is trying to bring the mad rabid dog down. There is nothing Superman can do to hold that power down. So even if you believe that hundreds of thousands died Superman didn’t kill those people, ZOD’s chaos did.

        Like I have said before. The world machine is busting a cap in the city’s ass. People in those buildings are already gone and are at the city skirts or underground in shelter. And yes all they did was crash into buildings. Empty buildings. They did nothing of catastrophic value. Buildings fell down. But does that equal HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS dying? Of course not. You see two superpowered beings fighting in the sky you don’t stay in the street. You move to a safe place. The only casualties I see are from the world machine. That big ass pit that Zod and superman where in after he kissed lois.

        Listen I hear what you are saying. It’s easy to go either way in the debate. The bottom line is Superman did what he had to do to bring Zod down. There was no other way. Zod wasn’t going to stop until Supes killed him

      • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

        It’s shocking how some have to be spoon fed what you just wrote. Why is it so hard to see how Zod was going to kill everyone just to get back at SM? If SM ran away to try and lure Zod, and that assuming he would actually take the bait, then Zod would have just started firing heat beams from his eyes to kill all of the people around him until SM returned to fight him.
        It’s the same argument for TDKR w Bruce Wayne returning to Gotham after escaping the Pit. Why do people need to see some sort of Rocky III montage of Bruce Wayne sneaking back into a city that he had been sneaking around before years earlier as Batman? It’s as if Chris Nolan asked his audience too much by assuming that they would understand this.
        MOS was not a masterpiece, like TDK, but it was still a great film IMO. It’s essentially Superman Begins as the last shot actually gives us the Superman that we all know in the form of a disguised Clark Kent. Again, it’s why I am so hyped for the sequel. Everything before that was his on the job training leading up to him becoming Superman.

      • Strong Enough

        Thank you. Zod was a rabid dog with no leash. All that destruction isn’t Superman’s fault.

      • Strong Enough

        Thank you. Zod was a rabid dog with no leash. All that destruction isn’t Superman’s fault.

      • Strong Enough

        Realistic means the superhero crap is grounded in reality. Alien comes to Earth, etc etc. All the other movie magic is still there. It’s still a movie. To say that Superman killed HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS is ludicrous. First of all let’s assume for a minute he did kill that amount, what the hell is he going to do? Zod is an animal that is doing everything he can to destroy EVERYTHING in sight during the fight and Superman is trying to bring the mad rabid dog down. There is nothing Superman can do to hold that power down. So even if you believe that hundreds of thousands died Superman didn’t kill those people, ZOD’s chaos did.

        Like I have said before. The world machine is busting a cap in the city’s ass. People in those buildings are already gone and are at the city skirts or underground in shelter. And yes all they did was crash into buildings. Empty buildings. They did nothing of catastrophic value. Buildings fell down. But does that equal HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS dying? Of course not. You see two superpowered beings fighting in the sky you don’t stay in the street. You move to a safe place. The only casualties I see are from the world machine. That big ass pit that Zod and superman where in after he kissed lois.

        Listen I hear what you are saying. It’s easy to go either way in the debate. The bottom line is Superman did what he had to do to bring Zod down. There was no other way. Zod wasn’t going to stop until Supes killed him

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        By what stretch of the imagination was the city 99 percent empty?

  • Snoop

    I think everyone who liked this movie , are wrong in doing so ya’ll want a DC superhero movie so bad that you excepted this piece of crap for it . Not only was that alien not Supes and everyone argued Supes killed general Zod at the end big deal he did so after killing the same people he was trying to save watch the movie Zod is turning his head to the right to kill those bystanders right ? well when Supes kills Zod which way does he snap Zods head (right).

  • DEADP00L

    So Superman dies in his NOT sequel. Too bad nobody is going to give a crap since nobody cared enough for him when he had his own movie.

  • DEADP00L

    So Superman dies in his NOT sequel. Too bad nobody is going to give a crap since nobody cared enough for him when he had his own movie.

  • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

    Okay, you make a valid point, but Superman couldn’t really stop Zod from his laptop even if the payday was as good as you say.

  • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

    Okay, you make a valid point, but Superman couldn’t really stop Zod from his laptop even if the payday was as good as you say.

  • Ted

    so much bitching and moaning for a goddamn statue… which by the way looks pretty cool.

  • Ted

    so much bitching and moaning for a goddamn statue… which by the way looks pretty cool.

  • http://tarek-to-verso.over-blog.com/ tarek

    All this fuss for nothing.
    This is the statue of Supes playing bowling.

  • TedSallis

    They should build a 50 foot statue of me not watching this movie. Then years from now tour groups and children’s field trips can journey to see the statue and commemorate a time when this movie was in theaters and I didn’t go and pay admission to see it.

  • Guest

    It will still be a boring movie!

  • Ruprect

    Wow. A lot of MoS and Snyder hate here. Sounds like very few have actually seen Superman II, where Supes called out the Kryptonians and battled them IN a packed Metropolis and then totally killed them up north.
    Well , I liked Man of Steel and look forward to the follow up.

    • DEADP00L

      Deleted scene shows them not dying but getting ARRESTED after the fall into the pits, look it up online – and you call yourself a fan? Whatever. Superman doesn’t kill PERIOD.

      • Ruprect

        Ohhhhh, a deleted scene. Well then I guess that settles … NOTHING. Next, do you want to point out some fanfic? Since you want to go all righteous nerd-war about this, how about John Byrne’s run in the comics? His last issue shows Mr Never-Kills smoking the Kryptonians with green kryptonite. Or how about another high point in nerdom … The Dark Knight Returns. Do you think all of those Soviet planes and ships Supes destroys off Corto Maltese were unmanned drones?

      • DEADP00L

        People like you just hate being wrong. I know it must stink to get an F after not doing your homework – that’s just life.

        Batman FYI does kill people and has done so since his inception.

        Siyonara!

      • Ruprect

        Aaaaaaand no meaningful response to the two times in seminal comics where I point out the Big Blue Schoolboy killing others. Typical netsnark response is all I get, which judging by your post history is all I should have expected.

        I’ll cop to being wrong when it is proven to me … with canon, NOT deleted scenes, alternate endings, dream sequences or fanboy wishes. It’s a bit more intellectually honest than standing there with your fingers in your ears and yelling “Nuh-UH, Nuh-UH!”

      • DEADP00L

        You think deleted scenes aren’t cannon? Wow…what denial.

      • Ruprect

        I thought you said “Siyonara”. Just couldn’t help yourself but come back, eh? Ego THAT fragile? The very least you could have done is addressed ANY of the comic based points I have made, but we both know that you can’t refute them.
        And, yes, I think that deleted scenes are neither canon nor, as you put it, cannon. (Although I do not know how a deleted scene could be a piece of medieval artillery but, hey, it’s your fanboy delusion.)

      • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

        Unfortunately deleted scenes don’t count. It may have been their intentions to have included it but the fact is they didn’t. So in the theatrical version of SMII they died. I personally enjoyed the Donner cut of SMII w the exception to the “reverse the earth ending” as it’s a much more powerful film showing Superman’s relationship w his father Jor El and really emphasises his the weight of giving up his powers for Lois (eh I personally wouldn’t have for Margot Kidder but that’s just me).

      • DEADP00L

        True very true I was pleasantly surprised at the Donner cut it put a lot o problems I had to rest. But the fact that the deleted scene was that scene means they all felt that in the end Superman doesn’t kill. I’m not sure why they cut it other than to avoid a sequel with the same villains.

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    So, turning Metropolis to a crater earns you a statue? Is it right next to the monument to Pol Pot? You know, the one just off of H.H. Holmes Lane?

  • Lee Harvey Cobblepot

    …except he didn’t really destroy Metropolis, did he?

  • http://www.discogs.com/ AdamShitwood

    Anyone got any info on what they shot last year at East LA College? You know that football game between Metropolis and Gotham whatever. I guess It was college.

    • DEADP00L

      It’s like the scene in TDKR – a pointless scene shooting with a villain monologing and things going boom.

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