BREAKING BAD Recap: “Confessions”

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If your heart wasn’t racing when Jesse was standing on that roadside, you haven’t been paying attention.  It’s a cyclical thing in Breaking Bad that just as soon as Walt gets smug that he’s “won” or gotten away with something, another thing (far worse and out of the blue) will happen.  While many of us were surprised at how quickly the show put Hank and Walt at loggerheads, on the opposite side we’ve also been waiting a long time to see when things would explode between Jesse and Walt, and where their relationship would go as secrets came out.  On Breaking Bad, no deed good or bad goes unpunished.  Time is just the distance between cause and effect.  Hit the jump for more.

breaking-bad-season-5-part-2-posterLast week, we ended on the pregnant pause of Hank going in to talk to a catatonic Jesse.  Theories buzzed — would Jesse turn on Walt now that he knows Mike is dead and Walt not only killed him, but lied to Jesse about it?  Or would Jesse stand strong with Mr. White and tell Hank to go fuck himself?  As we learned in this hour, Jesse didn’t waver for one moment.  He immediately told Walt all of the information he could gather: that Hank knew Walt was Heisenberg, that he was working alone, and that if there was any real evidence Jesse would be in jail.

But then things turned, and Jesse began to fall apart as Walt “worked” him by telling him he needed a fresh start.  Was Walt being sincere?  The hopeful among us continue to yearn.  Walt is absolutely right that Jesse needs to move on and start a new life and think about these last years as a bad dream.  But that idea is not just for Jesse’s benefit, it’s for Walt’s as well.  As Jesse breaks down and tells Walt he expected to be killed like Mike for saying no to him, and wanting nothing but honesty from Walt, Walt embraces him.  Again, was it sincere?

Opinions will differ, but everything Walt has done to and for Jesse — his worst things, including Jane, the ricin cigarette, all of it –he has done because Walt felt it was in their best interest.  Their best interest.  Walt has always thought of the two of them as a team.  He wouldn’t work with anyone else.  There are no substitutes.  The same was true for Jesse; Mike offered Jesse some attractive alternatives, but in the end he always chose Mr. White.  The show has been about their bond as much as anything.  When Walt embraced Jesse, I felt it was a true expression of his feelings towards a man he feels closer to than his own son.

And yet.

breaking-bad-confessions-anna-gunn-bryan-cranstonWalt always pushed Jesse too far, and this season, we’re finally see Jesse wake up to Walt’s manipulations.  The only time there was a light behind Jesse’s eyes in the interrogation room with Hank was when Hank brought up being sick of Walt’s lies.  If Saul hadn’t burst in, what else might have been said by either of them?  And then there it was: Saul instructed Huel to steal the weed from Jesse’s pocket just as he had done before with the ricin cigarette.  The reality came crashing down on Jesse and all of us.

The explosive encounters between Walt and Hank were just a warm-up.  The real shit storm is coming, because this is the real relationship the show has been built around, narratively and emotionally.  It took the hour for Jesse to go from sticking by Mr. White in the presence of Hank to getting ready to make Walt’s house explode, because a touchstone secret (the moment when many felt Walt had really broken bad and lost his soul) was finally revealed.  Last week’s ending was nothing.  He’s there now.  The one person Walt came to rely on totally is going to be the one to bring everything crashing down.  Hold on to your butts.

Episode Rating: A+

Musings and Miscellanea:

– I didn’t even GET to the genius move of Walt blackmailing Hank and pointing at him as being the kingpin.  Too brilliant.  The way he integrated everything (Gus, Hector, the hit, the medical money, even the black eye!!) into the video was inspired.  The twisting up of every event the two of them have shared … incredible.  I can’t blame Marie though for taking the money at the time, she did what she thought she had to do.

– Hank is in an interesting position at work.  It’s a good thing he didn’t tell anybody, I suppose, lest the video make its way into the wrong hands.  Him giving up when Gomez asked about the tail on Jesse was an interesting moment.  Hank is deflated, but we’ve seen him like this before.  When he gets to thinking, he’ll figure something out.  A friend of mine mentioned to me this week how he feels Hank is the real hero of the show, the only un-besmirched guy who really is on the side of right.  Could well be!  He’s certainly always been an interesting foil for Walt.

breaking-bad-confessions-aaron-paul– If you haven’t read it, gander at a great op-ed piece written by Anna Gunn (Skyler) about people hating her character.

– What was that scene with Todd all about?  I get that he was recounting the train heist and talking about Walt’s precision with awe, but I’m curious what bearing it has on the future.  Also, his White Power Uncle is terrifying.

– When Walt said to Jesse that he would love to trade places with him (to go off the grid and start a new life), I wonder if that was foreshadowing to Walt’s identity change that was teased at the beginning of last year’s episodes.

– Poor Walt Jr / Flynn.  He does not have a fucking clue.  Walt manipulating him to keep him away from Marie and also to keep Marie and Hank from telling him the truth was ruthless.

– How great is Saul?  I know, I know, but … seriously.  How great is he?

– That dinner with the foursome was even more awkward than the one when Jesse showed up last season (but similarly hilarious).

– Purple count — 7+: shirt, lamp bucket thing, vase, Kleenex box, pillow, rug, chair. Was Marie’s dress at the restaurant black or dark purple?

– “Kill yourself, Walt. This whole thing dies with you.” – Marie




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  • Nick

    I called this, last week on your last review.. Almost exactly lol. People are saying “I don’t get the connection Jesse made” as if its a half assed tie in, but Jesse called the whole thing when he had a gun to walts head and Walt talked his way out. Even when he found the cigarette he was crying over how convinced he was that Walt did it.. It never left him. As for the conversation with Todd and his uncle, I think the point there is to show how impressed he is by him. It’s kind the photo negative of Jesse right now but more so his uncle says “tight operation” and I think last week Declan saying “the third cook he started a fire” will come in to play. I think Todd will need some help from a “tight operation”…

    I don’t think hanks the good guy. He said something along the lines of F family in the opener. He is just hell bent on catching Heisenberg. That video was incredible…. Great recap

    • khal

      Walt told him that if he pursued this, it would tear apart their family. Hank replied “Like you ever gave a shit about family.”

  • krstphr

    Marie’s dress was black, but what was really interesting was that Hank was wearing purple.

    • LEM

      Maybe that means Hank gets killed.

      • Kenny Smith

        Nah man, pink is death

      • LEM

        what about pink-man?

      • Kenny Smith

        The thought has crossed my mind, and as they say, “the show ain’t over yet”…here’s hoping I’m wrong

      • Kenny Smith

        Nah man, pink is death

  • The Exploiter

    The conversation with Todd, in my opinion, was to show that he is going to be one who leaks Walt’s identity. He said “Mr. White” and “Jesse” several times. He isn’t hiding it. He is the evidence Hank needs.

    • LEM

      Yeah I was still annoyed that he knew their real names. Why wouldn’t they insulate themselves from him?

    • AnnaZed

      Which means that Walt will have to kill him, basically

  • Nick

    One more note about Jesses epiphany. Clearly with the rating this season, there are new viewers. Because you rushed through seasons 1-5 via Netflix on a 3 week bunge and cannot recall certain key elements, that does not translate to poor writing.

    Jesse knew it was Walt, but Walt manipulated him to thinking it was Gus. Turns out he really poisoned him with the Lilly of the valley plant he had. This took jesses suspicion off of Gus for the incident, but only after he was killed. The thought of “where did the ricin get to” never left his mind. He says he needs to find it so no one accidentally smokes it, but also reveals while crying to Walt, that he was GOING to kill him for this. No one can be that certain and then just flip the switch without continuing to wonder. The key fact is that he knew huell lifted it off of him and that was proven when huell stole his weed.

    For those wondering “how do we fully know Walt did it?”.. Well this may not be your show if you can’t keep up, but.. He spins the gun when wondering how to get over on Gus, it lands point to him…. He cannot accept this… He spins again and it lands pointing the plant. Clue #2… He takes the plant and other incriminating things and he disposes of them after Gus’ death. Clue #3 Saul gives him back the ricin and says he didn’t know he was helping him poison a kid.

    I swear some people need to be spoon fed.

    • Jack

      You are one major d-bag Nick.

    • Liderc

      Too bad it doesn’t matter because the doctors told Jesse that Brock was poisoned by the lily of the valley plant, so Jesse connecting the dots of the ricin cigarette doesn’t matter at all. Jesse found the cig with the fake ricin that walt planted in his vacuum, and then Walt destroyed it (so jesse thinks). So sorry, no, it doesn’t make a lot of sense that Jesse connected the dots, for one it doesn’t make sense, and two Jesse isn’t that sharp of a guy.

      • Nick

        Considering its proof that they are responsible for it, and Walt had motive, it certainly is.. And Jesse has proven himself to be very bright.

        And sorry jack.. I guess you’re one of the weekend warriors cramming it in on Netflix, but to people who watched the show from day one know to pay attention to all of the details and not bitch because they aren’t being force fed via flashbacks.

      • LEM

        Have you watched the show? Jesse is very sharp. Magnets bitch!

      • Huell

        Don’t forget, Jesse smoked some weed before he connected the dots; ergo becoming Sherlock Holmes.

      • Huell

        Don’t forget, Jesse smoked some weed before he connected the dots; ergo becoming Sherlock Holmes.

      • Martin Golder

        You clearly don’t get the fact that the ricin is irrelevant! Everyone knows it wasn’t used to poison Brock. But it does symbolise that Walt has been playing Jesse for a fool and that he poisoned Brock by other means.

    • IMPYEMU

      Don’t be a dick, Nick. I’ve been watching this show since Day 1 and even I thought this deduction was bullshitty.

      • Jason Herr König

        Then you’re on your own.

      • Kevin

        not really if you read a lot of the other comments.

      • Kevin

        not really if you read a lot of the other comments.

      • Jason Herr König

        Then you’re on your own.

      • Martin Golder

        It’s obvious that Jesse would figure it out.

        Jesse always suspected Huell of lifting the ricin.

        Walt ‘convinced’ him it was Gus, as Gus was a more common enemy.

        Jesse has always been weak when it comes to children being hurt, so would never be able to fully shake his suspicions. Especially as Walt became more and more dangerous.

        When Huell lifted the weed, Jesse realised that he also DID lift the ricin and that Walt has been playing him even more than he already knew!

        It makes perfect sense frankly, can’t understand why some think it doesn’t.

    • John

      the only thing that confuses me is how Jesse figures that Walt poisoned Brock with the ricin, when it was concluded that Brock was poisoned with the Lily of the Valley plant? why would Walt need the ricin at that point? Couldn’t he just make more on his own if he needed to? did Walt NOT poison him with the Lily? and since when did Jesse think he was still carrying the ricin cigarette? also please don’t give me a snobby response because i’m not an OG breaking bad fan like you. i just want some clarification

      • Sandra

        The short: Brock was poisoned with Lily of the Valley so he wouldn’t die. Walt didn’t need the ricin, he wanted it to look like Gus knew about Jesse’s plan to poison him and had poisoned Brock in retaliation. Walt did poison Brock. Jesse didn’t think he was carrying the ricin, hewas looking for the weed.

        The long: Jesse knew the weed was lifted by Huel after he bumped into him due to Saul making a big deal of him getting rid of it. Also, Jesse stated that someone must have lifted the ricin off him back when that was a point of concern. So it wasn’t just a random thought last night, he had already mentioned it as a possibility and he had stated multiple times that there was no way he could have just randomly lost it. Even finding it with Walter wasn’t really closure, it was a thinly masked deception. He had even stated he’d emptied the Roomba multiple times. Last night catapulted speculation to certainty.

        Further, last night was all about confronting Walt’s nonstop manipulation. Walt has taken everything that was important to Jesse and left him with only their relationship, just as he has with everyone else. He’s pigeonholed everyone so that their lives revolve around him.

        I think what a lot of people are forgetting or dismissing is that Gus was essentially becoming Walter to Jesse. He was his father figure and guardian who, unlike Walter, inevitably respected him. Enough that even though he knew he should simply kill Walter, he used a fear tactics which he stated previously are not effective methods. Walter took that relationship and his career away from him, a career that finally garnered him respect, admiration and authority, and then killed and lied about Mike, another strong figure in Jesse’s life.

        Even this season with Walt’s nonchalance about killing the child and trying to convince Jesse things will be different, Walt doesn’t care. Last night was a culmination of all Walt’s betrayals. Prior to last night’s episode everything was simply vague and speculation. Now Jesse knows for certain that the only person left in his life is using him like a tool, slowly bleeding him of everyone, and everything, he’s ever cared about.

        Not to mention you can’t look at his reaction to the betrayal without mentioning that for the first time, right before he finally discovers the truth, Walt has held him as though he were his son. Walter has never shown Jesse that sort of affection prior and even Jesse’s parents have disowned him. While Walt may actually care for Jesse, and I think he does, he manipulates him into doing what Walt thinks is best and robs him of choice at every turn.

      • AnnaZed

        Walt did embrace Jessie when he pulled him out of the crack den after Jane died (just sayin’) – Great summation though!

      • Sandra

        The short: Brock was poisoned with Lily of the Valley so he wouldn’t die. Walt didn’t need the ricin, he wanted it to look like Gus knew about Jesse’s plan to poison him and had poisoned Brock in retaliation. Walt did poison Brock. Jesse didn’t think he was carrying the ricin, hewas looking for the weed.

        The long: Jesse knew the weed was lifted by Huel after he bumped into him due to Saul making a big deal of him getting rid of it. Also, Jesse stated that someone must have lifted the ricin off him back when that was a point of concern. So it wasn’t just a random thought last night, he had already mentioned it as a possibility and he had stated multiple times that there was no way he could have just randomly lost it. Even finding it with Walter wasn’t really closure, it was a thinly masked deception. He had even stated he’d emptied the Roomba multiple times. Last night catapulted speculation to certainty.

        Further, last night was all about confronting Walt’s nonstop manipulation. Walt has taken everything that was important to Jesse and left him with only their relationship, just as he has with everyone else. He’s pigeonholed everyone so that their lives revolve around him.

        I think what a lot of people are forgetting or dismissing is that Gus was essentially becoming Walter to Jesse. He was his father figure and guardian who, unlike Walter, inevitably respected him. Enough that even though he knew he should simply kill Walter, he used a fear tactics which he stated previously are not effective methods. Walter took that relationship and his career away from him, a career that finally garnered him respect, admiration and authority, and then killed and lied about Mike, another strong figure in Jesse’s life.

        Even this season with Walt’s nonchalance about killing the child and trying to convince Jesse things will be different, Walt doesn’t care. Last night was a culmination of all Walt’s betrayals. Prior to last night’s episode everything was simply vague and speculation. Now Jesse knows for certain that the only person left in his life is using him like a tool, slowly bleeding him of everyone, and everything, he’s ever cared about.

        Not to mention you can’t look at his reaction to the betrayal without mentioning that for the first time, right before he finally discovers the truth, Walt has held him as though he were his son. Walter has never shown Jesse that sort of affection prior and even Jesse’s parents have disowned him. While Walt may actually care for Jesse, and I think he does, he manipulates him into doing what Walt thinks is best and robs him of choice at every turn.

      • Nick

        Walt needed the ricin when it was going to be used to kill Gus. Nothing more. After that, he used the ricin as a tool to manipulate Jesse. Walt DID use the Lilly because (assuming) it would not kill broc and it would keep Jesse from implicating himself when he replied it was gone, but it carried similar symptoms as the ricin. Jesse had the ricin cigarette since Huell stole it and when it was gone he was to speculate the obvious.

        The big issue is that Jesse knows it was the Lilly and not the ricin, so how did he get from A to B? I think this season it’s clear that Jesse is on to Walt and his manipulations. He was dead on about how he killed Mike saying “that’s not how you work”… He knows enough to know that at the exact same time broc was sick, huell took his cigarette, which is something we can easily assume he was always confused about.

      • hunjee

        Let me just break this down and tell me if i’m right. Walt had Saul lift the resin cigarette from jesse to make it look like it was Gustavo (or his crew) that poisoned Brock “he has no problems killing children” as Walt says to Jesse in regards to Gus. We still don’t know how Walt poisoned Brock, but Gilligan alluded to the “juice box” scenario where Walt met Brock at school and drugged him there.

        Yes, Jesse knows it was the Lily of the valley that made Brock sick…but at this point Jesse was already questioning Walts honesty. His resin was lifted by someone, it was not in the Roomba as Walt magically found later on as Jesse already emptied it out several times. That right there made Jesse question Walt.

        But my question to you is this, why did walt have saul lift the cigarette in the first place when he was going to use the Lily of the valley? Was it just a rushed oversight on behalf of Walt in order to get Jesse quickly on his side and to frame Gus? Like i said before Walt planted the resin in the roomba, so the taking of the resin was just a negative towards gaining Jesse’s trust…because in the end it was walts removal of the resin and replanting of it in the Roomba which caused this deduction from Jesse in the past episode.

        Let me know.

        EDIT: oh wait you said walt lifted the resin so the cops wouldn’t find it on jesse and incriminate him..that makes sense too. Its still hard to put all this together. The resin appears to the biggest plot point of the show it seems.

      • Nick

        Well your edit is partially correct. But also, without the ricin lifted Jesse never would have thought twice about anyone poisoning him. He’d just think he’s sick. He had it lifted so Jesse would come to him causing him, only to then manipulate him.

      • hunjee

        Very good point. i been reading a lot of reviews and watching videos of the episode and it seems like a lot of people are a little hung up on the resin incident with Brock. In the end we can just sum it up with the fact that Jesse does not trust Walt at all, as he’s a habitual liar at this point. Walt killed Mike and lied to Jesse straight to his face about it. Walt allowed the killing of the kid after the train heist to go unpunished…so he obviously has no problems putting children in harm for his own benefit. Jesse already confronted Walter at gun point in regards to the poisoning of Brock and Walts explanation and framing of Gus never truly resonated with Jesse causing him to have some doubt. The missing pot just put everything into focus (funny enough its once Jesse is truly sober he could finally start putting things together) that Walt is truly an awful person in every way and a master manipulator.

    • Jason Herr König

      Nick, well said and you’re not a douchebag.

    • LEM

      Yeah this isn’t the show for you if you need it spoon fed to you.

    • Mario Puzo

      Hey Nick, I spoon feed my man gravy to your mommy! “It’s finger lickin good!”, she says.

    • Dek

      nick you are a fuckin retard. i binge watched it on netflix and guess what! rather than automatically making you superior to me since you watched it from day one, it made it so that i actually had everything fresh in my mind. your argument is right off the bat fuckin bollocks. you really think that people who watched season 4 a couple years ago remember the details as clearly as someone who JUST FUCKING WATCHED THEM like a week ago? your delusional and you superiority complex is fuckin sad, faggot.

      • Martin Golder

        If it was all fresh in your mind, you would have noticed that Nick is absolutely right. Jesse always suspected Huell of lifting the ricin back in series 4. Walt just ‘convinced’ him it was gus. Jesse being not exactly of sound mind at the time due to grief was willing to believe a version of the story that had a ‘happier’ ending, i.e. Not having to kill Walt.

        So, when he realises Huell has lifted the weed from his pocket this week, he realises Huell could easily have lifted the ricin earlier.

        Pretty obvious for someone to know that if the show is fresh in their mind.

      • Nick

        Thanks for being mature. I don’t think im superior for watching a show.. That’s stupid. You could have jumped on the bandwagon at anytime and it makes no difference, but my issue is with the people trying to call out the writers because they were too lazy to follow along.

        As per your memory logic, test your theory in some way. Your maturity seems to show that you’re in high school… So instead of keeping up on your assignments, just cram the week before finals… Let me know how that works compared to someone who payed attention week to week :)

      • Nerdgasm

        lol wait are you accusing someone of not being mature and acting you yourself are? Your first log was absolute dumbfoundingly rude to those people who are following along fine and having had watched it netflix and finished it just a week before the new season started. To me those people have everything fresh – I think the writing is a bit lazy this season this far but the season isn’t over. I have guessed everything [Including walk blackmailing Hank. And new i was right when he gave him the DVD and then got the present of being right when he watched it... this show puts things in pretty blatantly and have them pop back up for other reasons but it's not genius.] The ricin yes is going to be a big key I think and it’s gunna pop up again knowing this show. But i have found it more the people that have watched it week to week that need help with me reminding them of certain facts but I wouldn’t announce it to the world that I think those people suck and act ABOVE them as you did whether or not it was your intent it’s what it came out as. plus the season isn’t over so you don’t know shit yet. We all knew that Jessie was going to get caught by the money and Saul was gunna bail him out and use the vaccuum gag to get to go away but we also know it’s not that easy and the ricin was gunna come back to Jesse some how which we all knew was going to be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Thats why the writers are lazy… the show so far has been predictable.

  • KindredBuddies

    The purpose of the opening scene was to show that Todd and his uncle/cohorts are moving the meth-cook operation back to New Mexico. The guys that Walt sold the methylamine to were cooking in Arizona, if I’m not mistaken. It was stated at the end of episode 2 that Todd’s cook wasn’t up to par, and eventually even resulted in a fire. It’s hard to believe they won’t try to get Walt involved in the manufacturing again, likely resulting in his family’s safety being put at risk, and eventually leading Walt to buy that monster of a gun.

    • 80sRobot

      I am thinking that it is Jesse who will be in danger. Todd would kidnap Jesse and force him to cook, reasoning that he would be helping Mr. White by keeping Jesse away from the White family, Hank and the authorities. The finale could be Walt preparing to rescue Jesse.

      • Conor

        That would be incredible.

      • Conor

        That would be incredible.

    • 80sRobot

      I am thinking that it is Jesse who will be in danger. Todd would kidnap Jesse and force him to cook, reasoning that he would be helping Mr. White by keeping Jesse away from the White family, Hank and the authorities. The finale could be Walt preparing to rescue Jesse.

  • Major

    Todd’s nazi uncle is Buck from Kill Bill in the hospital the Bride wakes up to.

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  • IMPYEMU

    Okay so let me lay it out to see if understand it.

    >Walt gives a cigarette laced with Ricin to Jesse with the intention of killing Gus
    >Walt has Saul, who in turn has Huel, lift the Ricin Cigarette off of Jesse
    >Walt then poisons Brock (how exactly does he do this?) with the Lilly of the Valley Flower, which does not kill Brock
    >Jesse confronts Walt, Walt lies to Jesse and tells him that likely Gus poisoned Brock, using the ricin cigarette? So in Walt’s scenario Gus stole a cigarette he didn’t know had Ricin in it from Jesse and used it to poison Brock? Why?
    >Even if you could believe this lie, it’s flown right out the window by the end of season 4. Brock lives. This should have ticked off Jesse immediately that Ricin was not responsible for Brock’ poisoning. Had ricin been used, Brock would have died. But what about the missing Ricin?

    >Walt places fake Ricing capsule in Jesse’s vacuum cleaner
    >Jesse now believes the ricin’s been found

    Tonight’s episode.

    >Huel lifts Jesse’s pot off of him before leaving under order from Saul
    >Jesse learns that his pot is missing
    >So now Jesse deducts, that Huel lifted his weed off of him.
    >Then Jesse deducts that, because Huel stole the weed off of him, that Huel also lifted the Ricin capsule off of him. This would explain how it went missing.

    Here’s what confuses me. What does this deduction mean? Absolutely nothing, wouldn’t you say? So they took the ricin off of him. Why does it matter? BROCK WAS NOT POISONED BY RICIN. BOTH WE AND JESSE KNOW THIS. IF BROCK WAS POISONED WITH RICIN, HE WOULD’VE DIED.

    Am I wrong here? Yes taking the Ricin off of Jesse would seem strange in Jesse’s eyes, but it still wouldn’t explain what happened with Brock.

    Believe me I’m not hating on the show as much as I am this storyline. It seems to me like a HUGE stretch just to get Jesse back to wanting to kill Walt.

    What do you think?

    • IMPYEMU

      EDIT: I don’t know if Ricin has a 100% mortality rate but it doesn’t matter as someone else already pointed out the doctors TOLD Jesse that it wasn’t Ricin that was used on Brock.

    • Nick

      You’re spot on with almost everything, but the key part is where you infer that walts story is that Gus took the cigarette not knowing. In fact, he says that Gus took it, knowingly and used it to poison broc so that Jesse would kill Walt (just like he was about to). Walt committed a crime, just to convince Jesse he was framed by Gus. This breaks the rest wide open. Jesse was already convinced that Walt did this to broc.. He was manipulated otherwise.. He now sees how much Walt has been manipulating him so everything is clearer. The Lilly of the valley is a big hurtle for Jesse to overstep, but just like he realized that mike wouldn’t allow Walt to kill his men due to “loose ends” he knows that he wouldn’t allow Jesse to incriminate himself to the police when telling them to check for ricin. I don’t think it’s a stretch, it’s actually how I saw it coming but I find Jesse to show a lot of intelligence the past two seasons

      • IMPYEMU

        Okay, what you said does make sense, except for two things.

        How would Gus now about the ricin? How on Earth could he find out about that, short of Walt or Jesse telling him (I definitely don’t remember either of them doing that in Season 4)

        I still think its a stretch him figuring it out. Basically at the end of the day what we have here is that “Jesse knows Walt is a manipulator and that poisoning Brock is something he’d be capable of”.

        But thanks for your reply. I never rewatched season 4. I never thought the show might go back that far for something that miniscule.

      • Nick

        Well Gus never did know about the ricin. That’s kind of the point. His involvement was only in walts lie to Jesse. In his lie, he stated how Gus had cameras everywhere. It really was never minuscule. Everything involving the ricin and broc has been pretty well captured. Last season tied a lot up with Walt disposing of the plant and talking to Saul about it. If anything is sketchy it is that Walt poined broc and we don’t know how. Broc has seen Walt since and seemed unphased. There’s a million explanations we can assume for that but this one, to me, is air tight with jesses recent ability to read Walters deceptions

      • IMPYEMU

        You’ve still avoided my inquiry. If Walt is trying to get Jesse to believe him, believe that Gus knew about the ricin, how would Gus know? Saying that that’s the point makes Jesse seem like a dumbass.

        Just admit that the explanations for a lot of the realizations are a stretch and we’ll call it a day.

      • Sandra

        It was a stretch, which is why Jesse never truly believed him. Walt convinced him by explaining how much surveillance Gus had access to. Not to mention Jesse’s own paranoia could have played into it. His life was on the line and any second that Mike or anyone else might have noticed the ricin would have been his end.

        You forget also that Walt and Jesse have known about Mike’s tapping phones and planting bugs in houses. Jesse also revealed the ricin momentarily out at the chicken ranch. Therefore, while Jesse may have realized it was a stretch for Gus to know, he also realizes the threat is real and his attachment to Walt is greater at that point, which is exactly why Walt took advantage of that moment. Any longer and Jesse would have certainly sided with Gus and Mike. The window for Walt to use such a flimsy lie was closing rapidly.

      • Nick

        He convinced him by saying they were under surveillance… Also by bringing into account Gus’ history using children. I really think it ties in without being a stretch. And regardless of that, the particulars you are questioning are predating the ones from tonight episode. You’re questioning the finale of season 4 and whether or not that was realistic, if you can’t buy into that then there’s no way you will find the aftermath realistic either.

    • scdd

      Yes this is all spot on, except was there ever a scene where Jesse was informed that brock was not poisoned by ricin? Isn’t it still as far as Jesses knows it was the ricin?

      • Nick

        No Jesse was told its Lilly of the valley. He is the one who told Walt (who already knew). Point is, he knows how Walt covers his tracks. He was manipulated to lose his ricin at the exact same time broc was poisoned. Walt had motive. And Jesse already suspected huell lifted the cigarette so it was all already in his head.

      • scdd

        ok, and do you know if there was ever a scene where walt and saul talked about getting the ricin from jesse or was that left unsaid?

      • Nick

        There’s a scene where Walt and Saul are talking and Saul give the cigarette back and says he didn’t know he was helping him poison a kid. Last season

      • scdd

        so when huel patted jesse down in season 4 he went into his pocket and opened the cigarette carton and stole the single ricin one????

      • scdd

        from the first time huel took the cigs, which was season 4

  • junierizzle

    I admit, I had no idea what Jesse realized until he said it. But it does make sense. Also, can someone explain to me what the purple means?

  • Gus

    A lot of people seem to be missing the point. In this episode, Jesse came to the realization that Walt had manipulated Jesse using the kid. Jesse is unable to control his rage because of the fact that Walt would go to those extents to control him.

    Before this episode, Jesse seems to believe that Brock had poisoned himself by accidentally ingesting berries. However, he finally realizes this episode that Walt actually poisoned him in order to use Jesse.

    • Darren

      Yeah this is exactly right.
      It’s not about whether he thinks he was poisoned by the cigarette its all about how Walt deceived him and used him to poison Brock and that sends him into a rage.

  • LEM

    I think Todd was being worked for information on Walt because those guys will probably try to force Walt to cook for them.

    • Nick

      I agree. I think that Walt, being the problem solver he is will listen to Todd’s message and wonder “do you need a partner?” And suggest that they take Jesse. I don’t think Walt can kill Jesse, not yet at least, so this could solve that problem

    • Nick

      I agree. I think that Walt, being the problem solver he is will listen to Todd’s message and wonder “do you need a partner?” And suggest that they take Jesse. I don’t think Walt can kill Jesse, not yet at least, so this could solve that problem

  • mike_thoms

    can someone refresh my memory on Jesse’s epiphany.

  • Greyson

    I don’t think there is a good guy. GoT plays on this theme more than BB (BB has 100 more themes it’s busy with). Hank works for the DEA, a government task force trying to stop Walt from distributing his product… A product his clients WANT.

    That being said, Walt got in over his head and did a lot of things that were in fact ‘evil.’ Hank is the good guy, by the ‘laws’ definition. Hank represents the system that Walt decided didn’t matter anymore.

    The good guy is Jesse. He has been a part of an unlawful situation, but has always been the good guy. He has heart. He has a conscience.

    Hank is a douchebag. Don’t forget the earlier seasons.

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  • Andy

    There has been a LOT of tension building in this season so far. I know we are only three episodes in, but I spent the first two episodes really hoping they don’t wait until the final episode to tie everything up in a neat little bow. I worry no longer. This episode was the best one of the entire series so far. It hit on every major emotional string ranging from the awkwardness at the dinner table to the unexpected in the desert to the holy fucking shit moment when Jesse awoke from his catatonic state. What this final season has executed to perfection so far is the unraveling of madness in slow motion. Things have escalated quickly. One minute everyone in the White and Schrader family is enjoying a nice dinner and it looks like things are finally going to go back to normal. A week later (guessing), Hank knows who Heisenberg is, Jesse is on the verge of burning Walt’s house down, Skylar has gone from complacent and obedient mother/wife to giving Walt a run for his money in the sociopathic strategy sweepstakes, and the entire world is about to find out who Walter White really is for the first time. It’s truly amazing to watch.

    As for the whole Todd opening scene, I have a two theories. They hinge on an ending people might not see coming, but this scene could be planting the seeds for the real reason Walt bought and M60.

    1) Todd is telling a lot of people about the train heist and being rather loose lipped about specific details in Walt’s operation. He left a voice mail on Walt’s cell phone that directly connects him to ongoing methamphetamine operations. Imagine if Hank somehow get’s a hold of that information. Imagine if he is called to the scene out in the desert where Todd and his uncle just slaughtered a dozen people. Direct evidence that could bring Walt down for good. Not to mention the methlamine they are hauling in the pest control trailer behind the truck.

    2) The other option relates to the methlamine, assuming Hank or the DEA don’t find it or connect it to Walt. Let’s say Walt gets clear of the legal issues by whatever method necessary. What if he decides he doesn’t appreciate someone else taking up shop on his turf and goes after Todd, his uncle, and the rest of the white supremacists who are going to be cooking meth. That sounds like a pretty good reason to have an M60. So he kills off the operation Todd is running, steals back the methlamine and then….does any number of things with it. Sells it? Destroys it? Starts his own operation back up?

    Both of these would be interesting options. Either way, I can’t wait to see where this show goes from here.

    (Side note, we all know Jesse doesn’t burn down Walt’s house from the opening scene from this final season. So what stops him and where does that leave him?)

  • helenravens

    damn what an epic episode! stu.so/reakingads05e11

  • JJ

    The thing with Todd is to show that not only is he telling off on the people that trained him, Walt and Jesse, but his uncle (who I think will kill Todd when he can’t produce like they want) will kidnap Jesse and that is who, on his 52nd birthday, Walt is going after with that gun.

    • hunjee

      I think Walt goes to save Jesse from Todds uncle.

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