This season really does have tons of possibilities, and after speaking with the new executive producers - Brian Wayne Peterson and Kelly Souders â I think they get it and have some great ideas.
During our roundtable interview, they discussed their plans for the show and they also talked about what would happen if this ends up being the last season. I also asked them why their finales and premiereâs are always so good and we also talked about guest writers.
Question: Are you loving Comic-Con?
Kelly Souders: Yes. We all came 4 years ago when Al and Miles were doing one of the panels and I have to say, Comic-Con is just exploded just even in 4 years. Weâve been walking around and having a fantastic time.
Brian Wayne Peterson: Whatâs great is we get all these letters from fans and we read them all and to actually see them and put faces out there. Itâs really fun.
How long have you guys been executive producers on the show?
Kelly Souders: This is our 2nd season as executive producers, but weâve been with the show since season 2. We started as staff writers and we started the same year that Todd and Darren started, so the 4 of us have been like a unit just moving up through the ranks.
Brian Wayne Peterson: Weâve usually done about at least 5 episodes and covered at least 5 more so weâve usually been on like 10 episodes a year since season 2.
Iâm curious this season with the changing of the guard behind the scenes and changing of the guard with the cast, how is that almost freed up the show to start a new angle and get new plot lines, new devices going for the characters?
Kelly Souders: Well, I think that for the 4 of us, and I know for the writing staff as well, it was really hard to see John Glover go last year, you know? We knew it was coming but heâs such a fantastic actor and was so fun to work with. Kristin will be back for some episodes this season, which helps soften that a little bit because sheâs been a very interesting actress in that she really sort of grew as the role grew. She started out one way and you look at her arc and in some ways sheâs had as great of an arc as anybody else on the show. And then Michael Rosenbaum, obviously, weâre very supportive of him going out the pursuing his other interests. But we loved working with him. He was always fascinating to watch on-screen. Always brought more to a scene and to the role than you can ever imagine writing, but obviously with that said, it made us all sit around and start digging really deeply as to whatâs a new take and whatâs kind of keeping âSmallvilleâ Smallville, but looking at a way to challenge ourselves and to challenge the cast and the writers and production and really keep it fresh and new becauseâ¦when youâre looking at a season 8, a lot of shows things start getting incredibly stale and that was not something that any of us wanted and we knew our fans didnât want that. So oddly having that much change has like forced us to kind of reinvent parts of the show and look at things that we wanted to do with the characters that we havenât really had a chance to because you kind of were moreâ¦.
Brian Wayne Peterson: I would just add whatâs been really successful for us is instead of looking outside the universe, we kind of look back on it, so what were the roots of âSmallvilleâ and so this year is going to be very much about DC comics characters that are coming in that are part of the mythology. The Lois and Clark relationship and the Daily Planet which when weâre watching dailies is amazing. The 2 of them are great together. And then the Chloe/Clark relationship that continues and they continue to have adventures together as the 2 of them really grounds the show and the same âSmallvilleâ everybody is used to seeing.
Iâve always felt that almost like you werenât giving the keys to the kingdom on the show because of DC for whatever reason not having more characters and stuff. Has it almost opened up with this season? Have they said oh, you can use more stuff? Are you allowed to use more characters?
Kelly Souders: DCâs always been great to work with. I think that because there were always so many characters to service of our own characters and we wanted to make sure all of our actors and all of our cast was moving forward in their roles, that just by the nature of that we werenât kind of looking outside as much as we are now. So thatâs kind of opened up that door more than anything.
Brian Wayne Peterson: I think as the show has evolved itâs evolved into something that people didnât really see. Weâve grown beyond âSmallvilleâ beyond meteor freaks, beyond what was kind of originally envisioned and thatâs why the DC Comic villains are coming in and making a lot more sense right now because itâs organic to the storylines.
You mentioned this is season 8 and you guys are still a very highly rated show on the CW. Are you guys arcing for season 9? Iâm just curious about the contract situation. Does Tom want to do another year and all that stuff?
Kelly Souders: Everybody whoâs involved in the show believes in the show even more in season 8 than ever which I think is alsoâ¦.if you go up there it feels like youâre on a pilot season as far as excitement from the cast and from the writers and from our crew. Everybodyâs working harder than Iâve ever seen them work before, so I think everybodyâs hoping for a season 9. What we are asking is that if itâs going to endâwhenever the show endsâthat we get some lead time to write to that. Because there are visions that Al and Miles had and collectively the group has that we want to be able to service and we know that itâs not like other shows where fans donât know how it ends. Like this show, unlike any other show on television, fans know what the ending of the show is. They know what Superman becomes. They know so much more mythology that it would just feel like a real cheat if we couldnât sort of lead up to that, so thatâs the one thing that weâve asked.
What is the plan like where do you want to end it?
Brian Wayne Peterson: Thatâ the one kind of thing that we need to be Al and Miles and not give up the end game, but definitely we all know who eventually becomes Superman and so that final transitionâ¦it will have something to do with that final transition.
Can you tell us what you showed us in the clips between the new villains in the panel?
Kelly Souders: You see Tess Mercier who emerges as this very mysterious figure to run Luther Corp. You see the beginnings of her introduction into the show. She is just as much of an ass kicker as Lex Luther was but sheâs very different in her personality and the one thing that youâll find as you start watching the first several episodes is that she has this real chameleon aspect. She is whoever she needs to be in the scene to get what she wants. Whereas Lex Luther was like very strictly one person and sometimes someone else with Lana, occasionally. Tess Mercier is everybody to everyone as long as it gets her agenda across.
Brian Wayne Peterson: And we have a lot of the âJustice Leagueâ characters in the premiere, so you see Green Arrow, Black Canary, Aquaman. We kind of tease that and show people a little piece of that. And we showed Chloeâwhat ended up with Chloe. Sheâs trapped somewhere trying to escape. Lois in her French maid outfitâalways a crowd pleaser. And Clark being trapped in
So were there multiple villains that you showed in the sneak peek clips?
Kelly Souders: Just Tess and then Davis.
Brian Wayne Peterson: Tess and then Davis. We really wanted to tease
You guys always seem to have such good premieres and finales. I want to know is the budget on those episodes 2 or 3 times the normal budget?
Kelly Souders: No, but they are higher. We very much plan when we look at the budget for the season to giveâ¦.to really start out with a bang and end with a bang and then thereâs several episodes throughout the season that we kind of focus on as being bigger episodesâwhat we call the tent pole episodesâbut I wish if we had 2-3 times the budgetâ¦wow.
Brian Wayne Peterson: Weâd have a feature movie.
Iâm also curious, you guys say that youâre going to plan for the end and want to have some leeway. How many episodes do you think thatâs itâs going toâ¦do you need like 4 or 6 or 8 to start like really getting to the end? Did you tell the network what you need?
Brian Wayne Peterson: We havenât yet per say because weâre really hoping to get a season 9, so we donât really want to put that out there because I really believe a season 9 is very possible. But I think it would probably take at least 5 episodes to kind of create an arc that would get to where weâre trying to go.
Can you tease at all the episode that Jeff Johns is going to be writing?
Brian Wayne Peterson: Yes, he is working on a Legion of Super Heroes which weâre really excited about. Weâre thrilled because Jeff is, I donât know if you know him, but heâs the greatest guy to work with.
Kelly Souders: And weâve been wanting to have him come in to do freelance for awhile and weâve known him through Jeff Loeb actually, so we were really thrilled that timing wise it all worked out for him to come and do it this year.
Was it a case that you wanted to do a Legion of Super Heroes episode orâ¦
Brian Wayne Peterson: He actually brought the idea to us.
Kelly Souders: We kind of figured heâd have a lot of ideas and that we should just throw him whatever he wants.
What about other guest writers? You mentionedâ¦are you trying to go after anybody else like any other comic book people that might want to do something?
Brian Wayne Peterson: Heâs really the one we were looking at because we have a pretty strong writing staff as it is and it is a little hard time for somebody to come in and get caught up in where we are with all our storylines because âSmallvilleâ is a little serialized.
Kelly Souders: And itâs very time consuming for people because it usually takes a week and a half, sometimes 2 weeks, to break a story. Then you pitch the story, then you get to do outlines and you doâ¦.re-conceive any issues and then you get the first draft in and then youâ¦.so youâre kind of asking somebodyâ¦.you need to find somebody who can take like 5 weeks out of their life and thereâs not that many people who can just drop their job for 5 weeks and come on over but weâre always looking for ways to tie people in.
So for the fans, whatâs the big storylines for the season that you guys are going to be doing?
Brian Wayne Peterson: Definitely
Kelly Souders: And really when you look at double-identity for the season it really sweeps through the entire cast. Like everybody all the characters have sort of a double-identity of some sort going on this season or a lot of them do. Chloe has some issues.
Brian Wayne Peterson: And Iâm really excited about the Doomsday situation because we tried to do a mirror to Clark in the first season realizing heâs a super hero and what would it be like if you realized you had special abilities and realized that you were the ultimate villain. So to mirror what happened on the journey for
What about guest stars?
Kelly Souders: Itâs so early in the season for us.
Brian Wayne Peterson: Weâre working on Supergirl. Weâre working on Supergirl again.
Kelly Souders: And bringing her back. I will just say that Brainiac has a way of never disappearing completely.
I know youâve got to go but one last thing. What script are you up to with the writing process?
Brian Wayne Peterson: We areâ¦Pitching 6 this week and weâve got a lot done on 7.