Confirmed: Edgar Wright Left ANT-MAN over Script Changes; Marvel Looking to Fill Key Crew Positions

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I won’t add to the outcries about Edgar Wright leaving Ant-Man beyond saying it sucks, it’s bad for Marvel, and bad for fans (I said a lot more about it on this week’s The Collision podcast).  It was rumored that Wright’s seemingly abrupt exit was due to significant rewrites from Marvel’s in-house writers, and the new script completely undid the story Wright and co-screenwriter Joe Cornish wanted to tell.  THR confirms this report saying, “new rewrites took place without Wright’s input, and when he received Marvel’s new version early during the week of May 19, he walked.”  Additionally, THR reports that some insiders feel the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy may have already gone too far, and Wright’s vision “might have been too quirky the Marvel universe.”

Hit the jump for more.  The film stars Paul Rudd, Michael Douglas, Michael Peña, Patrick Wilson, Evangeline Lilly, and Corey StollAnt-Man opens July 17, 2015.

According to THR, “Marvel had been unhappy with [Wright's] take on Ant-Man for weeks,” which I still find shocking since he’s been with the studio longer than any filmmaker (he started work on Ant-Man in 2006), and I don’t know how they could have only recently decided that they weren’t pleased with his vision for the film.  Nevertheless, Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige ordered revisions of the script, and that script was apparently so far from what Wright wanted that he felt he had no choice but to walk away.

In addition to trying to find a director that will have to piece together the new script with what remains of Wright’s vision for the movie, Marvel will also have to put together the project’s key crew positions.  THR says the movie’s “heads of departments — departed when it became clear production would not begin as scheduled.”  The cast is still attached, and “a source close to the production says all key crew positions will be filled shortly.”

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  • The Exploiter

    Way to go, Marvel. Way to go.

    • The Flobbit

      Way to go, Wright. Way to go!

    • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

      By the sounds of it I bet Hydra has infiltrated Marvel.
      Hail Hydra!!!

    • Roderick

      Marvel? Disney.

  • Person

    So much for Feige being Wright’s crusader in all this… Marvel dropped the ball here big time.

    • Nick Lee

      How so, they are currently ahead in the comic book movie industry, the first to create a big screen shared universe. Sure Ant-man might have seemed good in 2006 before they hit their stride but what works then might not have worked now. If even one of their movies is out of tone with the audience then that can bring their entire operation down.

      • Lobbo

        Shit movies can also bring their entire operation down but funnily, that has yet to stop the Marvel train, despite the wildly varying quality.

      • ok heh

        You come off as a soulless suit.

        Wright’s movies are subversive, creative, and entertaining as hell. Exactly what the Marvel universe needs.

  • Strong Enough

    “new rewrites took place without Wright’s input, and when he received Marvel’s new version early during the week of May 19, HE WALKED.”

    so gangsta.

    • Werefon

      I imagine this like that:

      Wright: – Enough of your Bullshit! (Tosses their script into the air).

      While shitty script pages falling in slow motion, Wright turns and walks as Coolio’s song starts to play in the background.

      “As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
      I take a look at my life and realize there’s nothin’ left.
      Been spending most their lives
      living in the Gangsta’s Paradise”.

      • Strong Enough

        perfection

      • The Dude Abides

        “As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death

        I take a look at my script and realize there’s nothing left.
        Cause I’ve been planning and writing so long that
        Even Feige thinks that my mind is gone….
        Been spending most our lives
        Living in Marvel’s paradise…”

      • Werefon

        Bravo!

  • Msul

    I reckon it was Disney, not Marvel who asked for the re-writes. Fiege was working with Wright for 8 years on this and then he decides to fuck it all up a few months before shooting? I doubt it. This was someone higher up.

    • Person

      Or Feige was super gung-ho about Wright putting his own spin on things years ago, because Marvel Studios had nothing to lose by taking chances (that’s what made Iron Man 1 so great), but now Feige got cold feet because Wright’s film would have been too different from the established brand.

      But you’re probably right, I’m sure Disney didn’t help either.

    • mwhahahaha27

      Disney has 0 input in Marvel films…

      • Kpaqu1

        That’s a hilarious statement.

      • AustinusPrime

        Gunn said so himself, that Disney was entirely hands off with Guardians.

      • mwhahahaha27

        Hilariously accurate. I’m guessing that between you and me, only one of us spent a year working on one of these Marvel films. The only time Disney even screened the film was at the end of post and it was for marketing and sponsors. Iger didn’t watch the film until the final cut, about a four weeks before it was in release.

  • Matty

    Super disappointing but I respect Wright for the decision

  • Sawyer

    What was the script too good for Marvel? FFS…Also, Matt, I don’t know if you meant “might have been too quirky ***for*** the Marvel universe.” Just letting you know…

  • Stefan Bonomo

    With Wright working on this for 8 years, I highly doubt NOW Feige would want to intervene and order re-writes.

    I have a very strong feeling that Disney execs saw Guardians, and thought that something so far removed from the rest of the Cinematic Universe, which is probably what Wright’s Ant-Man was, wouldn’t do well and ordered them to link it more. They also probably critizied how “goofy” the tone may or may not be, which if this keeps happening, then Disney could end up destroying Marvel themselves.

    • enderandrew

      First off, Disney is hands off with Marvel. Iger is a hands-off leader. Feige calls the shots at Marvel.

      I thought Feige keeps saying that he wants each movie to be its own thing and a different genre. He creditted the success of Captain America 2 that it wasn’t the same thing as Captain America 1.

      • Stefan Bonomo

        If Disney is completely hands off with their studios they purchased, then why do people put the blame solely on Disney for making Pixar make Cars 2?

      • mwhahahaha27

        Good question, they were seemingly hands off Pixar for as long a Pixar was churning out hits, maybe they applied pressure to get Pixar to start Franchising it’s properties. You know, for $$$$.

      • enderandrew

        Presumption.

        When Michael Eisner was in charge is Disney, he was a micro-manager and an asshole. He demanded Disney make straight to video crappy sequels to Toy Story (as was Disney’s model back them). He alienated Pixar. He alienated Miramax. Then he fired Weinstein saying Miramax never produced anything worth while (won more Oscars than any studio in that time and turned a profit) but he kept the Miramax name, which is the Weinstein’s parents (Mira and Max) just to spite the Weinsteins.

        Bob Iger is the anti-Eisner. To fix Eisner’s damage, he bought out Pixar, but killed the crappy straight to video Toy Story sequel that was being made completely without Pixar and allowed them to make a better sequel instead. Same with Cars. Cars 2 isn’t the best Pixar film to date, and maybe the one that appeals to adults the least.

        But it really appeals to kids. I read once that Cars made more money off toys and merchandise than all other Pixar movies combined. Kids fucking love Mater.

        Iger promised to let Pixar do their own thing. Disney made Planes to cash in on Cars related toys, but Cars 2 was all Pixar.

        Iger promised to let Feige and Marvel do their own thing.

        Iger promised to let Kennedy and Lucasfilm do their own thing.

        But anytime Marvel, Pixar or Lucasfilm do something that fans don’t want, they PRESUME that evil Disney made them do it, whether or not there is any evidence that is actually the case.

      • mwhahahaha27

        Well Fiege still has to make the “Creative Committee” in NY happy, but yes he pretty much does as he pleases when it comes to making the films.

      • Person

        I find it hard to believe that Disney is really that hands-off. Properties they purchase have a way of suddenly changing what they were initially doing once becoming part of the Disney family. Pixar didn’t start churning out sequels consistently until the Disney purchase, we were never gonna get more Star Wars movies until that sale happened, and now the MCU is being affected. Disney pays handsomely for these properties – you can be damn sure they’re gonna exercise some measure of control to make sure they get a good return on their investment.

      • enderandrew

        It depends on the leader and your team. Steve Jobs pushed his singular vision and everyone had to get on board. But you can also be the type of leader that finds the right person for the job, and you don’t get in their way.

        Pixar did Toy Story 2 before Disney bought them.

        Kathleen Kennedy hired Arndt to do script treatments for new Star Wars movies (that Lucas agreed to) before Disney bought them out. In fact, that was the leverage for the deal. Kennedy sold themselves to Disney specifically on the basis that they were already doing new Star Wars either way.

        Neither of those things you cited were actually Disney decisions.

        The only thing we’ve seen where Disney forced a decision on Star Wars so far is releasing in 2015 for Episode VII when Abrams asked to maybe push back a year.

      • Jon

        In this respect I agree with you.

        I believe that the purchase by Disney has made Marvel feel like they can do whatever they like as they have a giant corporation backing them up.

        Hence the fault lies with Marvel, however the average person will see guilt by association.

    • The Flobbit

      I sincerely doubt that happened. Stop trying to sugar-coat things by painting Disney to be the villains. Marvel is to blame here: they thought they were invincible, asked too much, and was surprised when the guy they screwed over walked.

      Bad move.

      • Stefan Bonomo

        Fair enough. I guess I was thinking that this never happened, at least on this big a scale, yet and this is just me trying to find some reasoning to it. Probably false, just spectulation.

      • The Flobbit

        Yeah…it’s nice to have a scapegoat, but you have to realize that sometimes infallible people like Feige make the wrong decision. I bet James Gunn is really nervous right now…

    • Um, Sure

      Of course. Marvel couldn’t possibly be in the wrong. They’re infallible.

    • Jesse!

      Thing is, even if they were afraid right now of Ant-Man being too “out there”, by the time it was going to be released, Marvel would be very recently coming off what will surely be the insane success of Avengers 2, so I would’ve thought they’d consider they’d have enough good will banked that they’d be able to ‘get away with’ Ant-Man not being the most mainstream thing in the world.

      • Stefan Bonomo

        Exactly. The Avengers 2 is a guaranteed success, so they could’ve had Ant-Man do good, but not great, and they’d still be fine. I just wanna know why they waited until now, after 8 years to completely rewrite his script.

  • Sweet Pea

    I’m only talking for myself here, but the MCU universe is getting more and more boring with each sequel… The only movie I’ve really been looking forward to for a long time now is GOTG, precisely because it is so different to the Avengers mob and they have got a director with a unique and different style… That was same reason I was looking forward to Ant-Man, not any more though.

    • Person

      Preach, except for Capt. 2, which was truly a great sequel to a great movie.

      • The Flobbit

        Captain America: Winter Soldier was, dare I say it, a masterpiece of the superhero genre (oxymoron?). And the first one had such heart and spirit, that when coupled with the extraordinary Chris Evans’s acting, and a top-notch cast, they really set themselves a cut above the rest.

      • GrimReaper07

        I’d say you’re exaggerating the movie’s merits a bit. I agree its a good film but also agree with @disqus_N8AKeVfrjl:disqus in that the universe is becoming so samey that its hard to get excited for the individual Marvel movies. It just feels like they don’t bring that much new or exciting to the table. That’s just me though.

      • The Flobbit

        Well, to say the least, I was excited to see conventional martial arts, gun fights, not shooting blue laser fights, and some great character development. That sets it above the genericness of the rest.

      • GrimReaper07

        I didn’t think the character development was that great, and yeah I do agree that those other things were a change of pace for Marvel but they weren’t really enough to make it stand out from all the others for me.

      • Hunter

        I agree. I loved Cap 2 and it was the only one of the sequels that I enjoyed from start to finish. I felt Thor 2 was kind of half-assed and I literally wanted to walk out of the theater after The Mandarin reveal in Iron Man 3.

      • The Flobbit

        Thor 2 wasn’t half-assed, it was quarter-assed. Nobody at Marvel knows what the hell to make of Thor. Branagh managed very well, all things considered, and pulled off Marvel’s greatest casting stunt this side of Robert Downey Jr: Tom Hiddleston.

        But Alan Taylor’s film was sadly generic and bland, with some great visuals and character design. Even the action lacked pizzazz.

      • Memoman

        I agree, I feel out of the main Avengers, Thor is the one who’s yet to live up to his potential, in his solo movies. Iron Man does as good as he can, Capt America is a fighting ideal. But the God Of Thunder? He hasn’t quite delivered on the level I’d expect. So far nothing to make him seem worthy of his title. In his solo movies.

      • Sweet Pea

        Yeah I haven’t seen Cap 2 yet, heard only good things… I don’t wanna generalize with MCU, there are some great moments even in the rubbish films (Thor 2 was the worst imo, closely followed by IM3), but overall it is kinda dull now. I don’t get excited by them anymore anyway, hence not seeing Cap 2 in the theater, even tho I wish I had now… Really excited for GOTG tho, will defo catch that at cinema.

      • GrimReaper07

        Definitively the best Phase 2 movie although I don’t get at all why people love it so much.

      • Hunter

        I wasn’t a big fan of the first Cap and like Sweet Pea said, I too have lost some excitement for the sequels. I guess it just really caught me by surprise how much I enjoyed the second one

      • kkjjxl

        I can’t overemphasize HOW FANTASTIC CA:TWS was. I just can’t. I’m counting down the days until the blu-ray release, so I can gorge on special features and HD close-ups of Sebastian Stan’s beautiful face.

    • enderandrew

      I was disappointed with Iron Man 3, but I really loved Thor 2 and Captain America 2.

      • Sweet Pea

        Cap 2 sounds like a winner, want to see it asap. I saw IM3 and Thor 2 in the cinema tho, and hated both, almost equally… Just boring and felt very generic.

      • The Flobbit

        Boring and generic. Like you know exactly what to expect. Winter Soldier destroys that facade. I was shocked to see it open to a quiet, peaceful, human scene of character, rather than generic action.

        Go see it. You’re missing out!

      • GrimReaper07

        The action is great and the plot is really unpredictable. But when it came to the characters I felt it missed the mark a little bit. Not that they were bad, I just felt Cap and Black Widow had been done better in Avengers and that the Winter Soldier was pretty weak outside of the action scenes.

      • Tom

        “plot is really unpredictable” really? I saw them resurrecting Nick Fury from a mile away, especially considering Sam Jackson is signed on for like 9 movies. Great movie though.

      • GrimReaper07

        Yeah, that was true and disappointing but beware of posting spoilers. Edit that bit out. Still, the how things end up with SHIELD was somewhat unpredictable though not the huge game changer people make it out to be.

      • James

        The thing I loved about it is even after all of the trailers they showed for Cap 2 (and how much they showed in each), they never gave away the major plot of the whole movie. However created those trailers is brilliant.

      • James

        *Whoever

      • The Flobbit

        I have to disagree. Anthony Mackie brought some great character, as did Hayley Atwell, and you have to appreciate Chris Evans’s relatable, compelling performance.

      • GrimReaper07

        They were all fine but not really more than that IMO. There’s nothing particular about the film I dislike apart from a couple of plot points and the Winter Soldier himself but I don’t think there’s much that’s special about it.

      • kkjjxl

        “Winter Soldier was pretty weak outside of the action scenes.”

        You… are you even human??!!! How is this possible?

        Here’s a tumblr gifset to remind you how great he was:

        http://obsession-vent.tumblr.com/post/85188933482/buckyderp-if-you-dont-think-this-is-the

        By the way, Sebastian Stan had like five lines in the whole movie, and somehow still managed to steal the show. HE WAS AMAZING.

      • GrimReaper07

        Yeah, that’s the problem. He has like 5 lines in the movie and the only development he has is a tiny bit at the end and during the scene you’re providing a link to (which wasn’t that special a scene either). The actor was fine in the role but he wasn’t given much to do besides punch things in a movie that has his character’s name in the title.

      • kkjjxl

        I would have liked more screentime with him, but I definitely count him as the highlight of the film.

        Kind of like Quicksilver in X-Men: DoFP, in which his one scene was so fantastic, I was really sad to see him go, and the rest of the film suffered from a lack of the character’s presence. But it’s not like either movie would be better without the supporting character who steals the show. Both characters, in my opinion at least, elevated their respective films with their (sadly) few scenes.

      • GrimReaper07

        I mean, he’s not a bad character or anything. Whenever he appears on screen (which is very little) you know **** is about to go bad. I just didn’t think he was that great a character though, more like a walking, punching plot point. Haven’t watched DoFP though. Going to this week.

      • kkjjxl

        And I read Brubaker’s Captain America run, and I thought the abbreviated MCU version/origin was a whole lot better than how it played out in the comics.

      • GrimReaper07

        I haven’t read anything from Marvel (except The Ultimates) so I can sort of watch the films and judge them by their own merits. That’s why I sort of liked Iron Man 3; cause I didn’t care for the Mandarin beforehand.

      • Redjester

        Cap 2 was pretty good.

        Personally, I want to see a campy in a good way Loki movie that cameos GOTG. That would have the potential to be all kinds of awesome.

      • Ellieinto

        “I want to see a campy in a good way Loki movie that cameos GOTG.”

        I’d pay real money to see this. Both GOTG and Loki are linked to Thanos so that’d be a great tie-in right there. Make it happen, Marvel!

      • Person

        I couldn’t agree more about Iron Man 3 and Thor 2. The latter was just bland, and I find that unforgivable considering that Thor is the most exotic of the MCU heroes so far. The movie just had no personality and used humor as a crutch to hide that. Things picked up considerably in the second half, but I’ve seen Thor 2 twice now and I honestly have trouble remembering what happens in it.

        Iron Man 3 is movie I’ve warmed up to now that I’ve seen it a second time, but I still feel like I’m forcing myself to like it more than it deserves. I think it starts and ends really well, but both times I’ve seen it I just get restless in the middle.

        But neither is as bad as Iron Man 2, aka the two-hour Avengers trailer. As long as none of Marvel’s upcoming movies are as bad as Iron Man 2, we’ll be ok. Not great, but fine.

      • Stefan Bonomo

        This is probably just me, but besides the Mandarin reveal, I have no idea what everybody hates about Iron Man 3. Thor 2 I can understand, but IM3, I actually loved it. Not as good as Cap 2, but still good imo.

      • Jon

        I felt that the middle was a jumbled mess that lacked any direction.

        We have essentially seen Tony Stark without the armour in IM1. The child served no purpose to the movie except to work as a sounding board for RDJs long speeches.

        I personally thought the Mandarin reveal was brilliant. It is sometimes good to surprise long time fans of the franchise.

  • Redjester

    With Wright out, I’m going to ‘walk’ as well, so to speak and refrain from seeing this film, a film I had been very excited for.

    • Person

      I’m gonna chill with the boycott talk haha. Still curious to see if Marvel tries to salvage this by hiring a solid director with a true vision, instead of a gun-for-hire who will just move the production through the pipeline with minimal fuss (looking at you, Alan Taylor).

    • LL

      I’m not boycotting the film because that would imply that I cared about it beyond Edgar’s inclusion. I’ve seen Marvel movies on Netflix, and they are what they are. Edgar’s films are an experience, which is the only reason why I would have paid to see it.

  • The Flobbit

    Marvel can go suck it. Wright is a hugely talented filmmaker, and if he’s not good enough for them, then neither am I!

  • The Flobbit

    I love that picture of Wright. It’s like he’s asking, “Am I really the kind of guy you want to mess with?”

  • ScratStitch

    Enough with the “boycott” talk, people. You all know we’re still going to see the film. Unless you want to send a message to Marvel to NOT make movies about these obscure characters, in which case you’ll just complain about “no one supporting anything that’s different.”

    • Snarky

      I’ll still see it but instead of being a “must-see in theatres”, I’ll just wait and rent it now.

  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    I have mixed feelings on this. I’m a huge Wright fan so I’d love to see his version of Ant-Man. But another part of me feels that Disney probably knows that these type of films are very niche with their demographics and after probably seeing a rought cut of GOTG they know that it probably won’t do blockbuster type of #’s and will fall in line similiar with Pacific Rim’s BO (James Gunn is untested and has an odd/dark sense of humor in his prior films IMO). Feige probably knows that they are really getting into the C and D listers of the Marvel comic book world and realizes that in order to get people to keep coming, outside of the fan base, that he needs to keep the formula similiar enough that people recognize it – most people want to see “superhero films” and not odd space operas and comedy/crime heist films set in the same universe. Wright’s version was probably just so different that the studio didn’t want to risk millions of dollars to see it either fail or break even. I guarentee that the rewrites was to make it have a more “superhero” feel towards it and connect it with the Avengers more closely. It’s a tricky road to walk as you want your creative team to flex their muscles but within the confines of the universe that has been laid out by others.

    • Jamie Teller

      It makes perfect sense, and yet it disgusts me. The world in a nutshell.

  • Alexander Calvo

    It’s ridiculous that everyone here makes marvel out to be the bad guys. The reason we fans were so happy about marvel studios was that they would have control over the characters. Remember when we used to bitch about marvel not having control. Good on marvel for saying it didn’t like what an outsider did with their character. Wright’s final script wasn’t in until recently, regardless of how long he’d been working on it.

    • Sweet Pea

      Think the problem is that like one of the writers on here said, MCU has gone too far now and is almost episodic like watching a tentpole blockbuster tv show… Since Avengers, the sequels have felt very generic and lackluster in my opinion… Cap 2 sounds really good, but being massively disappointed by IM3 and Thor 2 in cinema put me off going to see Cap 2 in the theater.

      • Alexander Calvo

        Thor 2 is the only one that could be called cookie cutter, but it was a great cookie, if not original. It was very well done. Iron man 3 and Cap 2 are as far from episodic, or cookie cutter as possible. Both shook up their respective franchises more than almost any past superhero franchise has don, as did Thor 2 while remaining not to different. If you have not seen cap you really can’t comment on it. And the only thing anybody can say against Iron Man 3 is they didn’t like the twist, that doesn’t change that it is an excellent movie.

      • Redjester

        From that report, it looks like Guardians of the Galaxy might a one-off as well (or at the very least made to look like the rest of the universe) so, not to worry, your vanilla universe will soon go back to its cookie cutter ways.

      • lordjim

        i liked the twist, what i did not like was the overblown cgi mess of a third act.i came to see iron man and not attack of the clones, how anybody could call this an excellent movie is beyond me.the action had no gravitas at all and even guy pearce was boring – i didn´t know that was possible.black´s “kiss kiss bang bang” was an excellent movie.

      • GrimReaper07

        I agree 100% with you and I even liked Iron Man 3.

  • Drake

    Haha, Guardians of the Galaxy spooked the Disney execs!
    As if I wasn’t going to see it already ;)

    • Redjester

      That part cracked me up as well as that’s my most anticipated film from them, well, ever. Yet they’re afraid more films like that will damage their brand. Hilarious and disappointing at the same time.

    • http://mfhbff.wordpress.com/ Kolchak

      Well, that’s the optimistic take. It reads to me that James Gunn just “played ball,” and was more of a director for hire, placating Marvel. I could be wrong, maybe their visions were more in tune from the get go, but it definitely has deflated some of my excitement for the flick.

      Full disclosure,I’m not the biggest fan of the Marvel Studio flicks. I mean,I enjoy most of them to one degree or another, but “good” movies? I don’t know. They are big budget TV episodes. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but I do feel like their quality is conflated a bit.

      It’s a shame, really. I was starting to get behind the studio because they were hiring interesting talent, who have unique sensibilities(Black, Gunn, and Wright), but now it seems the writing for the future is written on the wall. More passable movies that don’t really strive to be anything more. Kind of a bummer.

  • Royale With Cheese

    What a F’n mess. I’m just glad that Kevin Feige isn’t getting away clean with this. There is no way that something at Marvel Studios happens and he isn’t behind it or involved. This was very poorly handled but MS has produced nothing but quality material (few exceptions) and I think they’ll manage to get this movie back on track (hopefully).

  • Redjester

    After learning that the uniqueness of GOTG is in part what spooked the studio execs towards going more vanilla with Antman, perhaps I should start giving them less credit for thinking outside the box with GOTG and expanding what a Marvel movie can be, and rather give James Gunn props for pulling one over on them.

  • Guest

    Marvel-Disney sucks

  • doopie

    Does this mean we’re going to get a cornetto quadrillogy now instead?

  • YodaRocks

    In Feige, we trust.

    • The Flobbit

      –to give us generic, money-making sequels.

      • YodaRocks

        You left out ‘genuinely enjoyable’.

      • The Flobbit

        Genuinely forgettable, genuinely cliched.

        I mean, Captain America 2 was the first great sequel that Marvel’s ever done.

      • X2 Is Not Good

        It’s the ONLY good movie Marvel has ever done, period.

      • The Flobbit

        Agree to disagree. Iron Man and Captain America 1 & 2 were both great.

      • The Flobbit

        Genuinely forgettable, genuinely cliched.

        I mean, Captain America 2 was the first great sequel that Marvel’s ever done.

      • YodaRocks

        You left out ‘genuinely enjoyable’.

  • KM

    I’m glad Marvel and Wright
    have split rather than fighting with each other throughout production and
    giving us a film that neither is happy with 100%. With the time, effort and energy
    required to make a film, why should he waste it making something he doesn’t
    believe in and the same goes for Marvel. We’ll get a film from each party that
    they themselves want to make, I see it as a win for everyone involved.

  • AL

    Poor Kevin. You either die a fanboy, or live long enough to see yourself become a true hollywood exec.

    • The Flobbit

      He’s the hero we deserve, but not the one we want right now.

  • milo

    I assume that means Bill Pope is likely one of the ones who walked?

  • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

    I’m pretty sure that a director is going to have to understand working for Marvel will be different from any other opportunity in the business. These are THEIR characters and certain things have to be adhered to due to the nature of their brand and unfolding universe that can’t be jeopardized.
    The huge picture is way more important than one directors unwavering vision.
    Marvels shown that they are willing to let each and every director put their unique stamp on their movies as long as they do what they were hired to do and not be difficult. Edgar has always shown a disdain for the universe concept even before Iron Man took off…he wanted this to be his OWN movie and unconnected. That shit isn’t going to fly with Disney and Marvel, even if you were Spielberg.
    Look at the pedigree of directors who have been willing to check ego and turn in a movie for Marvel, realizing they were hired for their talent and not just because they were visionaries.
    If he was so passionate he could have still made a really great movie and done what his employers requested from him as I’m sure it was very important this character who is directly tied to The Avengers universe stay that way. How anybody can think anything but Edgar’s ego getting in the way is why this happened is beyond me.
    If you follow the timeline and his comments, the writing is on the wall.

    • Al

      “If you follow the timeline…” Exactly. Follow that timeline. You’ll see producers who were enamored with his script until very VERY recently. So its not like he knew all along the troubles with Marvel. Everything was fine until 2014. Imagine the rug being pulled out from you after almost a decade of development.

      Can I understand Marvel’s point of view? Sort of. But its not exactly a case of “he should have seen this coming.” Its because Marvel is not what Marvel was. And I don’t mean that in a doomsday, ‘oh no, they’re definitely evil” type of way. I am in no way saying they won’t have good movies in the future, just that – simply – the way they operate now is not the way they did for most of Wrights tenure.

      Also, no, they definitely did hire him for his vision, because he was screenwriter and director. He developed it with them.

      I feel for him.

      • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

        Marvel have operated the same way since day one. They have a singular vision and a huge amount of logistics wrapped up in this shared universe, as that is all that has really changed-it became wildly successful and now they must adhere to the objective of a huge shared universe and all the films in it.
        Edgar was always, always on the fence of not connecting this movie to a shared universe and they probably LOVED his take and obviously backed him up for a long ass time, but, when it came down to finally happening and all the gears began moving..shit became apparent that his vision now deeply clashed with what had to take place now that Marvel is so successful and the general public expects these characters and movies to be interlocked and honestly probably don’t give a shit who is the director. It sucks to be sure, but, Marvel can’t risk their bigger plans because an artist is unwavering in his vision.

  • kps

    I imagine the cast must be feeling pretty shitty right about now. Some of them must have only signed on after meeting with Wright or reading the script.

  • celxx

    Regardless of what Wright fan boys say:

    1. Marvel will do what it wants to do. If anything, this move shows that it is not unwilling to compromise its vision, even if it means losing a respected director. These characters are THEIRS and they are the boss.
    2. Marvel isn’t the only studio that restricts directors vision. Don’t be fooled. I’m pretty sure that other big, high budget movies are under close supervision by studio heads.

    3. I’m sure the new Marvel script is great. Ant-Man might not get a 90% on Rotten Tomatoes, but it also won’t get below a 60%.
    4. People will still see this movie regardless of this internet drama.

    • Diego Fernando Salazar Proaño

      Well, I won’t talk for anyone her but me: I agree with your points (except No. 4 but I’ll get to that) except for the fact that, at least for me, is unprecedented that a director writting and re-writting a movie for over 8 years, prepping it, casting it, is questioned in his vision by his bosses a few weeks before shooting started! I mean, I’ve seen directors get hired, work on the film a couple of months (even a couple of years) and walk away because they can’t get the greenlight. But 8 years and a greenlight after? I didn’t get angry about Patty Jenkins leaving Thor (still an awesome idea, though) because she was attached 2 weeks (I think)… but 8 years? You know, I can get the thinking some studios have to butcher the movies AFTER they shoot but before? That’s a new thing.
      (Did I mentioned Edgar Wright was attached for 8 years and got the greenlight?)
      Now, I agree with point three because Marvel is a critics darling not necessarily because the movie is great (looking at you IM 2 and Thor 2)

      Now, point 4. I count myself out of seeing this movie. Seriously, Edgar Wright (and the cast, I’ll be honest) were the only things that made me consider this as a possibly great movie. The sad part is that Wright’s use of Ant-Man powers (the coolest thing in the test footage which I think is very different to the use it has in the comics) will remain. That being said, if tomorrow Marvel tells me that Phil Lord & Chris Miller are the new WRITERS/directors of Ant-Man I might reconsider, otherwise, thank you very much. I’d watch Avengers 2 given that Joss Whedon remains (please Marvel don’t screw that one!)

      • celxx

        Even if all of the users of this website boycotted the movie, there are over 1 billion people out there that could potentially see the movie.

  • eternalozzie

    Edgar Wright would have made a really odd awkward Ant-man … Shaun of The Dead, Hot Fuzz, and World’s End might as well have all been the same movie … it was good humor but it’s like watching Will Ferrel movies … all the same stuff rehashed

  • Big smooth

    Who cares I have never seen any of Wright’s movies and I don’t want to.
    He has been working on this movie since 2006. I say good-bye and good riddance.
    When did he plan to start shooting 2026. Good job Marvel hire someone who knows how to make a movie in less than ten years

    • BigJimSlade

      LOL. Passive aggressive much?
      Hard to criticize Wright if you haven’t seen any of his films, eh?

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  • TigerFIST

    Matt you may not want to add to the outcries but I don’t mind!

    This FUCKING SUCKS! This is FUCKING STUPID! This is FUCKING DISAPPOINTING! This is FUCKING FRUSTRATING! and whomever is responsible @ MARVEL for pulling this last minute shit can eat a BIG BAG OF DICKS!!!

    For a studio to change a script that’s fine, but don’t do it when a director has been attached for 8 years then do it last minute! So if people replace Wright and Cornish and the movie SUCKS and Wright and Cornish go do something amazing will the HIGHER UP ASS CLOWNS come out and admit their wrong?!?!?!

    Nope!!!

    Kevin Fiege: attack the block, scott pilgrim, corn trilogy. All of the films were LOVED by audiences, fans, and critics!

    ASSHOLES higher ups @ Marvel: Ok great those movies are awesome! (Even though deep down we’re ignoring that). And Kevin they didn’t make much money.

    Kevin Fiege: Well maybe but since we will have the MARVEL name brand attached to it, It’s a comic book/superhero movie, and it’s in the same universe and will hit theatres 2 MONTHS after a sequel we’re producing to the THIRD BIGGEST FILM OF ALL TIME I think we’ll at the least get our investment right.

    AsSSHOLES highter ups @ Marvel: Kevin you’re absolutely right but we have our heads so far up our asses we can’t think straight!

    Like Matt said this is BAD for Marvel and Horrible for Fans! Have faith in your filmakers and don’t string them along. The face he’s been attached for sooooo long and they try to change his vision is simply rude, unprofessional, and disrectful. They should have shame. The only way this makes any sense is if all the test screenings for GOTG came back as horrible. I doubt.

    To whomever responsible thanks for CRUSHING DREAMS then pissing on us!!!!

    Why is it so hard to see they had talent and good release date that would for sure bank bucks!?!?!?!?!?!?????

  • @ScottieRock28

    Marvel (Disney) really botched this one. This has been my most anticipated Marvel movie since the first Iron Man because of Wright. Now, I think they should just scrap it all together. We don’t need another half-assed superhero movie. There’s already too many of them out there and it can be a glaring black-eye for Marvel.

    Marvel just assumes that all of their movies are going to be huge hits because that’s been the case so far. However, things certainly change. Hell, look at the Spider-Man franchise. And to a point, look at X-Men before “Days of Future Past”. Batman was shot to hell with Schumacher and whose to say the same can’t happen with the Marvel Universe? Sure, Whedon is fantastic and Feige looks like he knows that he’s doing, but they can only do so much. Marvel/Disney better get over themselves and get out of their own way.

  • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

    The fact that Marvel DID let this movie incubate for this long specifically for Edgar Wright and his personal vision shows they were behind this man 100%.
    He dragged them along for a ride also..don’t forget that they shelved this movie so he could go off and direct At Worlds End..sound like real assholes.
    Honestly, Edgar Wright is a mega perfectionist and he does have a pretty big ego due to his cult status. He has been mostly all talk for the last eight years..sure, a great sizzle reel and probably a great script and all his ideas of what this movie would one day be..but…once production ramped up and shit got real..this is when Marvel and Disney realized the director they hired might be more trouble than anticipated as he was unwavering in what he wanted out of Ant-Man and obviously he couldn’t do the job he was hired to do.
    After seeing all of Marvels movies and with Guardians of the Galaxy on the horizon I just can’t side with anyone who thinks this is just Marvel and Disney being scared by Wrights vision and wanting it cookie cutter boring. That’s bullshit- considering Marvel has done something historic in cinema and have taken so many crazy chances with directors and talent. This seems to be a director so full of himself he just couldn’t make this passion project work because he was so sour on it having to connect to Marvel properties and it couldn’t just be his film-he detested the idea well before Avengers became so successful,so you could imagine his distaste in the notes he had to oblige. Seems pretty straightforward if you read between the lines.

    • BigJimSlade

      Reading between the lines is great when you fill the gaps with assumptions.

      All I know is Edgar Wright is too talented to waste his time just being a director for hire. Studio execs tinkering around with a script to fit with their moneymakers kills any interest for me as far as the future of the Marvel Universe. I don’t need to see comic book movies made by template.

      I have yet to see a Marvel movie in the theater – Wright’s Ant Man would have had my but in a seat, without question. I’m glad he’s out and can focus on making Edgar Wright movies. Just sad he wasted his time/energy.

      As a DIS shareholder, this doesn’t please me at all…

      • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

        As a claimed shareholder…you should be quite happy Disney made a very smart business decision and chose to not let a director whom you’ve hired to direct a movie not be willing to compromise on details that HAVE to be incorporated since Marvel is a brand and Ant-Man is integral to The Avengers. Disney and Marvel are not here to cater to the whims of Edgar Wright and be willing to compromise THEIR vision and risk the potential issues dealing with a fussy director. It’s business and you should be happy this company was unwavering.
        As a shareholder you may want to go see more of your intrests at the movie theatre since its so important to you.
        Lastly, Disney and Marvel DID give wright chances to incorporate their needs and he failed. They waited for this guy for eight years and he couldn’t have the courtesy to meet his bosses demands and that is the bottom line. You truly do not need to do much assuming as it pretty clear. Disney and Marvel can’t let anyone get in the way of their creative choices and ultimate business plan in the long run and they have shown that they definitely let creative directors put their visions into their films-as long as they do what is asked and they are being paid to do- see James Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy to end e Disney are bad guys arguments.

      • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

        Edit- to end the Disney are bad guys arguments. Letting James Gunn direct this movie shows Marvel has huge balls and are willing to lay down cash on creative folks-as long as they don’t bite the hand feeding them.
        Wright didn’t want to compromise or do what he was being paid to do. Period.
        Or else he would be making Ant-Man.

      • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

        Edit- to end the Disney are bad guys arguments. Letting James Gunn direct this movie shows Marvel has huge balls and are willing to lay down cash on creative folks-as long as they don’t bite the hand feeding them.
        Wright didn’t want to compromise or do what he was being paid to do. Period.
        Or else he would be making Ant-Man.

      • http://Www.Marvel.com/ R.J MacReady

        As a claimed shareholder…you should be quite happy Disney made a very smart business decision and chose to not let a director whom you’ve hired to direct a movie not be willing to compromise on details that HAVE to be incorporated since Marvel is a brand and Ant-Man is integral to The Avengers. Disney and Marvel are not here to cater to the whims of Edgar Wright and be willing to compromise THEIR vision and risk the potential issues dealing with a fussy director. It’s business and you should be happy this company was unwavering.
        As a shareholder you may want to go see more of your intrests at the movie theatre since its so important to you.
        Lastly, Disney and Marvel DID give wright chances to incorporate their needs and he failed. They waited for this guy for eight years and he couldn’t have the courtesy to meet his bosses demands and that is the bottom line. You truly do not need to do much assuming as it pretty clear. Disney and Marvel can’t let anyone get in the way of their creative choices and ultimate business plan in the long run and they have shown that they definitely let creative directors put their visions into their films-as long as they do what is asked and they are being paid to do- see James Gunn’s Guardians of the Galaxy to end e Disney are bad guys arguments.

  • That guy

    X-Men: Days of Future Past – better than any movie Marvel has made.

    • The Flobbit

      Have to agree. Bryan Singer > Joss Whedon.

    • Arthur Dent

      Haven’t seen DOFP yet, but it will have to be amazing to outdo Captain America 2.

      • X2 Is Not Good

        It doesn’t outdo Cap 2 by a long shot. It’s better than all the rest of the Marvel Studio flicks, but that’s really not saying much at all.

  • Micheal

    I can’t believe on this news because http://goo.gl/HxErof

  • Shapyroman

    1 Don’t hope somebody as the Phil Lord/Chris Miller duo to take on the job. Marvel just got rid of an auteur, it’s not to replace him with another one. Expect F Gary Gray, Antoine Fuqua or a newcomer from television.
    2 Yes 8 Years of pre production, but not 8 years of full work. Wright postponed again and again the production to make Scott Pilgrim and The World’s End. So actually that would be more 1 year and a half of real screenwriting and negotiations with the studio (since the release of The World’s End, I would count).
    3 Edgar Wright is somehow right to have saved his integrity. But I fear that he won’t have many options left. Scott Pilgrim was a massive box office flop (and not even DVD sales saved it), The World’s End barely broke even. A Marvel movie would have been perfect to avoid him becoming a box office poison…

  • Big-smooth

    Who cares Marvel is better off with out him

  • AustinusPrime

    Everyone is saying that Disney is freaking out over GOTG and wanted to change ant-man, but from what I’ve heard it just seem Edgar right is hard-headed. Sure, they shouldn’t've re-written his script without permission, but it just feels like he was unwilling to budge. Marvel has a CINEMATIC UNIVERSE to manage, and they allow each movie to be of another genre and their respective directors to put their own marks on each one. It just seems to me things changed, and Edgar was unwilling to change with them. Everyone, stop blaming Disney, James Gunn said they’re entirely hands off, and Feige is a man with a plan, and it’s worked out pretty well so far. So we don’t get to see an Edgar Wright superhero movie, but it’s not the world’s end. It will still be a fun character, and it’s got a stellar cast. Some of the biggest and greatest studios are backing it, and yeah, I agree with all of you, it sucks Edgar is gone, but just sit back and wait for the movie or proof of the reason for his departure instead of making ridiculous conjectures.

  • vividsoup

    Haven’t been a huge fan of any of Wright’s movies but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect him as a director — he’s got a unique style and seems to be very passionate about the projects he works on. On the other hand, Marvel has been hit or miss with their movies but has remained pretty constant with the look and feel. My guess (and alluded to in the story) is “Guardians” is tracking low and got them nervous about Wright’s vision. In the end, it’s what’s best for both parties.

  • The Jester

    Does anyone think that maybe Wright wanted to tell the darker part of Hank Pym’s story on how abusive and egotistical he is, sort of like in the Ultimates where he beats The Wasp? Of course the main storyline theyre going with is Scott Lang’s but I cant help but think maybe that could have been an issue for Marvel. Like look at Iron Man 2 when they lightly attempted to show Tony Stark’s alcohol issues but even then side stepped that arc of the story. Meh

    • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

      Possible. I remember Favreau promising us the whole Demon in a Bottle story arc would heavily influence Iron Man 2 and all we got was a humored, lightly treated version of it. Walked out disapointed that they didn’t make it a little darker, edgier in part of the story, especially during Tony’s melt down scenes.

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  • ok heh

    Too quirky for the Marvel universe? They’re comic books and the guy is called ANTMAN for crying out loud. A man who is an ANT. These should be quirky as hell and out of this world, like nothing ever seen or done before. Marvel’s movies are tripe, formulaic crap. The comics they are based on, at their best, are anything but.

  • http://buzzabit.com/aaron/ Aaron Sullivan

    Hmm… Matt: “I don’t know how they could have only recently decided that they weren’t pleased with his vision for the film. ” Probably the script wasn’t locked down until recently and the final version made them uncomfortable for some reason (one can imagine the final result of a vision quite differently than those who had the vision).

    We can only speculate why but Marvel has proven itself over and over with pretty daring approaches to the movies with results that please audiences and even critics. Wright has fans and is very talented, too, but I don’t see a reason to assume this is just a misguided decision by Marvel.

    I’m certainly uncomfortable with rewrites “from above” but the exact conditions under which this happened are still unclear to me… and, frankly, for all I know, the script that is tampered with may be not only more marketable but something I’d like more personally.

  • Dave

    For all we know Wright’s 2006 script may have been centred around Ant-Man creating Ultron.. so much has changed in the MCU even in the last year that there could be dozens of original plot-points that would need to be re-written to fit in with the rest of the universe. Wright’s story probably doesn’t fit in with the current MCU anymore and he didn’t want to compromise on his vision which is understandable as he has fought so hard over the last 8 years to bring the project to fruition.

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