Pierce Brosnan Is a Very Bad Man
12/29/2005
Posted by Collider Staff
Posted by Mr.
Beaks

Pierce Brosnan may harbor a
few misgivings over how his James Bond tenure ended, but if the best the
Broccoli family can do is hire Paul Haggis to restore a little prestige to the
007 franchise, he’s much better off pursuing other projects. And while his starring role
as hit man Julian Noble in The
Matador was undertaken prior to his departure from the double-agent
series, it’s still a wonderfully profane way to turn his back on a character
that was never allowed to play nearly as dirty as he did in Ian Fleming’s
novels. Because
Julian, as imagined by writer-director Richard Shepard, is such a scuzzy piece
of work, even Fleming’s Bond would blanch at his libertine behavior. Killing people for money is
actually one of his more admirable qualities; when he’s not on assignment, he
spends his time getting bombed on the local drink (margaritas in this film) and
screwing anything regardless of sexuality or age (Shepard has labeled Julian a
Trisexual, as in “He’ll try anything”.)
Julian is a reprehensible
piece of work, but, damn it, he’s also a human being. When we catch up with him in
Shepard’s film, too many years of well paying murder have finally worn him
down. He’s lonely,
and, for probably the first time in his life, he’d actually prefer good
conversation to wanton sex.
And it’s businessman Danny Wright’s (Greg Kinnear) horrible
misfortune to belly up at the bar the night Julian goes trolling for
companionship. What
ensues is a smart variation on the buddy comedy genre in which the always
dependable Brosnan gives the performance of his career thus far.
I had the chance to participate in a roundtable
interview with the gentlemanly actor a few weeks ago at the Beverly Hills Four
Seasons, and was privy to an engaging back-and-forth that found Brosnan dishing
on the unique pleasures of playing a scumbag, the future of Remington Steele (good news and
bad news, fans), and his disappointment over losing out to Tom Hanks for The Da Vinci Code. Hope you enjoy…
Is the beard for a
role? Yeah, I’m down in New
Mexico making a movie with Liam Neeson. It’s called Seraphim Falls. It’s a post Civil War western
and I play [a captain] from the union, and he plays a colonel from the south.
I got in last night,
and I’m heading out after this show
tonight. Is there any of you in
Julian? There’s me in every role that I play. There’s only me to rely
on. But Julian is so different, it’s hard for us to
imagine what is Pierce in this guy.
Well, I’m an actor so my job is to act. Sometimes, I haven’t been
given much to act with, but nevertheless I’ve gotten by. Richard Shepard came bearing
gifts with this piece. He sent this as a writing sample for Thomas Crown 2, technically 3, which we’re trying to do.
I just fell in love
with it. I thought
this is great.
What jumped out at
you? I thought it was very play-like, and I liked that it was
a kind of ensemble of three people. I love the twists and turns and the flamboyance, the
sheer vulgarian way of Julian Noble’s mouth. I thought it had good character and I thought it had
good heart. I thought
you enter into this heightened theatrical world. Where most hit-men movies leave off, we start.
It just made me laugh.
How did feel going through the lobby in your
underwear? Oh yeah, it was the lobby of the hotel that we were
living in for god’s sake, so all these men and women would see me every day and
say, ‘Buenos Dias, Buenos Noches Mr. Brosnan, or Mr. Bond.” I never escape him. So the day we came to do the
scene, I had a bathrobe on and as I was getting ready. I had the old knickers on and
I thought, “Well, I’ll keep the boots on as well because they just look so
funny. They look so
silly with my skinny legs hanging out.” And my partner, Beau Marie St. Clair,
she said, ‘Well, now, you could keep the dressing gown on if you want or maybe
pajama bottoms.’ I
said, “No. Train’s left the station. This is too good.” It’s a great piece of schtick. There’s many ways of looking
at it. Is it good to tap your inner
scumbag? (Laughs) That is a really indelicate way of posing any question.
Well, he’s a lovable
scumbag. That’s the
razor’s edge of black comedy, dark comedy, whatever you want to call it. You’re constantly pushing the
audience away, bringing them in, pushing them away, making them feel
comfortable, uncomfortable. Hopefull,y you don’t lose them. In a word, yes.
Speaking of the underwear, are you a briefs
man? (Long
Pause) Next question. (Expressing disbelief) He doesn’t get out much.
Were you already thinking this would be my swan
song or anti-Bond role?
No, no, no. I thought it was a perfect piece. I thought it was a wonderful,
quirky, could-be-hip, cool, independent movie with a bunch of actors who you
really admire and respect. And when we said let’s go do it, we had a play
reading like we do with all of our pictures. And Hope Davis was there . It was incredible working
opposite her, and then Greg Kinnear came on board. Then we had a movie. I wasn’t trying to do
anti-Bond; I was just trying to honor the piece that Richard Shepard had
written. Was it a nod to Bond with the margarita scene,
shaking it? It was there. It was in the script. Of course, the emblem of it did not go unnoticed.
None of it has gone
unnoticed. You’re
fully cognizant of what you’re doing, especially when you’ve played the same
role, created an image for yourself whether it be Thomas Crown or Remington
Steele or James Bond. You’re aware of how you’re perceived and the image
you’ve painted yourself into a corner with. I was looking and wondering when and how and what
shape and form the character would come along that would kind of just jump your
career in another direction. Or, if you want to call it break the mold, I was
there. You have to
have patience. If I
didn’t have this company of my own, I don't think someone else would have come
and offered me this role of Julian Noble. I wouldn’t have been at the top of the list. That’s the great… the benefits
of having played Bond and having seen other men go down that road over the
years. I wanted to
come away with a bit more. I wanted to create a career for myself that’s
hopefully going to keep going.
You’re seedily attractive rather than über
attractive in this film. Was it easy as
pie? Easy as pie. It’s always been there. Just got started really.
There’re a few others
in the back pocket so hopefully we’ll be able to find material to be able to do
that. This part just came at the most delicious time; as one chapter closes
and the road ahead, where does it lead? I don't know, and I never have. But when you have the security
of the TV series like Remington
Steele or you have a franchise like James Bond in your pocket, sometimes
you can get complacent and don’t try hard enough, you don’t push yourself hard
enough.  Any talk of a Remington Steele movie?
Mm-hm. It’s in discussion, we’re working on it. We have two young wonderful
female writers. They’ve been into the office and they’ve got a take
on it. Where would it
go? I think we’re looking at New
York. Location-wise?
Story-wise?
I look for location first. Good restaurants? Days off? I haven’t really heard the
pitch. They only came
into the office. I’m
in the middle of this picture right now. We discussed it, where we would like it to go and
they’ve come in with a little germ of an
idea. Are you nervous about revisiting that
character? I wouldn’t play him. I would kind of give myself some wonderful cameo role
and try to steal the third act or something like
that. Why not play
him? I’m too old to play him right now. I don’t want to go back there.
I’ve been there.
That’s where I
started. But to be
able to produce something and find an actor and actress, I think just the pitch
line itself is still good in today’s market. It’s a piece that is loved and I’m still at the table
so to speak, so there could be an audience out there.
Many people in your position would stay home and
play with the kids, not work if they don’t have
to. I’d fall off the twig.
Would you?
As much as I love my kids, I also have to make a living.
I took time off after
Matador. I said, “Now I’m just going to
see what the new year brings.” Christmas came and the New Year was kind of scary.
I thought, “Wow, do I
really want to be going and playing that role and that role? Hanging out with
the topliners and I’m going to play some kind of sleazy corporate man in a suit
supporting role?” Which is okay, but I kind of thought, “Let’s just
have patience and hang back a bit here instead of always working.” So the year off was great.
It was wonderful.
It gave me time to
recover and find out what it was about.

Did you and Greg have a
great friendship? Really great. I admire the guy’s work and he’s just one of those
wonderfully funny people. He makes you funny because he’s so deft and sharp at
it. If he hadn’t been
as great and as giving and as generous as an actor, it would have been all for
naught, my part. I
would have just been kind of rudderless. But his character was so vulnerable and open, it just
made Julian, highlighted his own vulgarity in some kind of moronic
ways. So many of your roles are developed by Irish
Dreamtime, you pursue them, but do you often look for roles that you don’t have
a stake in with your production company?
Mm-hmm, yeah. The Da Vinci Code, I wanted to do
that. I think you’re
late. I think I am. Someone named Tom, or someone. He’s done a few things, came
from a sitcom, cross dressing. But only because I was doing After the Sunset in the
Bahamas. Every time I’d look around,
every man and his dog was reading this and people said, “You should play this
role”. So, I read it
and I thought, “I should play this role.” I didn’t get it, so there you go.
How is New
Mexico similar or different than Mexico
City?
It is New Mexico. Somehow the feel of
Matador and now a year goes
by and I’m doing New
Mexico. It’s wonderful. I love the land, the people. Especially New
Mexico is rifling. The texture of the landscape
and the way of life, the Indians.
And he’s not a nice guy
either? My guy? He’s a field operative of his time. Liam is chasing my character
with a posse of four. I take them out one by one until there’s just Liam
left. Did you get to know any
matadors? Yeah, Israel [Tellez], the
young man who was the matador. The beautiful young fellow out there in the tight
pants. I’m sure you
girls paid attention to him. He’s one of the top matadors.
But you didn’t see him
fight? No, I didn’t. I don’t want to see it. Didn’t go near it. The mythology of the
bullfighter and the metaphor of it, I thought it was well used in the film by
Richard. The poetry of
Locke, the paintings of Picasso, I’m fascinated. To actually see one go down, no
desire. What’s Mexicali?
Mexicali is a project we have and we worked on and we put on the
shelf because we kept on bumping into dead ends. When people ask you what you’re doing, you think
should I say something, should I not say something? But what the heck! Speak about what you’re doing
– sometimes it works and sometimes it
doesn’t. Since you’re producing more and came out of
television, are there any TV shows you’re watching to see where the next hot
talent is coming from?
Not really. I have no idea what’s going on in TV. I probably
should, especially if we’re going to set sail with Remington, but I really don’t
know. TV comes around
and the kids come home from school, you get the dinner together, you get them
into bed and it’s like “Okay, bed time. Let’s watch a DVD or something like that.” We’ll catch up on old
movies. With some kids who are young adults now and some
that are very young, do you have to be in two different parenting modes at the
same time? No, I just got the two boys here that are beside me.
Sean is twenty-two and
Charlotte and Christopher have their own life and that’s coming together
gloriously, thank heavens. So it’s just little ones at hand. Four-year-old and an
eight-year-old.
Hasn’t Sean been in the
tabloids in London?
About what? Come on now, be specific. (He lets the dumb broad who asked the
question twist in the wind a
little.)
Something drug
related? No. You’re the first woman to bring this up. Be kind.
Does your turquoise stone pendent have any
meaning? My wife bought this for Thanksgiving. We were down by the
Rio
Grande and there was some old lady selling
Turquoise, so it’s hanging around my
neck. What’s happening with Topkapi Affair with the Sony
changeover? We’re going ahead. Amy Pascal is very enthusiastic for us to make The Topkapi Affair. We have taken just the title
and the spine and then embellished upon that, and made it our own, so
structurally it’s very sound and now it’s time to get the interior and the
nuance and the character and the
voice. Is there still room for Rene
[Russo]? There’s always room for
Rene. Will you be thrilled if you get Oscar nominated
for Matador?
I would be over the moon. Of course I would be.
Is your character in Seraphim Falls based on a real
character? No, it’s just fictional. David Von Enken has written this piece. David is a young writer who
has done a lot of CSIs and
he did one short film called “Bullet in the Brain”. Fifteen minutes of pure joy.
Beautiful.
Too early to think of the Matador
sequel? Oh no, we’ve thought about it. Greece. And a lovely red
bathing
costume. The Matador opens today in New York and Los
Angeles. It is scheduled to expand to the top twenty markets
on January 13th, and go wide the following week. Don’t miss
it.
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