Superman Returns to Comic
Con
7/18/2005
Posted by Collider Staff
Posted by Mr. Beaks Few
filmmakers better understand how to finesse the geek crucible that is the San
Diego Comic Con better than Bryan Singer. Three years ago, he unspooled a very early teaser
for the still-filming X2, about which questions were abounding,
and brought a packed Ballroom 20 to its feet. Scored to the rousing “Mars” movement of Holst’s
The Planets, and sans a
shred of CG, this brief glimpse extinguished any doubts about the direction of
the project, and won the filmmaker whatever goodwill was being deprived him
after the modest, but well-liked X-Men. With
that in mind, the expectations for his Saturday morning Superman Returns presentation,
for which the filmmaker flew in from Australia
where the film is still being shot, were precariously high. Anything less than a
bull’s-eye would surely disappoint. As
it stands, enough people
seem to think the teaser hit the mark that WB and Singer can carry on with their
$200 million confident that this familiar looking, but thematically disparate
adaptation is solidly on the rails. Though the
director helped his cause immensely to the point of cheating by
utilizing John Williams’s evocative score from the 1978 Donner film, one can’t
deny that the film looks every bit its price tag. Shot with the brand new, Genesis digital camera,
Singer and cinematographer Newton Thomas Sigel have captured some strikingly
filmic visuals. If the
rest of the movie looks this good, particularly after color correcting, it’s not
hyperbole to suggest that this could be the project that ends the film versus
digital debate. And
Guy Dyas’s production design is a lush evocation of the American Modernist era
that manages to completely avoid the inert stylization of last year’s Sky Captain and the World of
Tomorrow. His
may be an eye-poppingly fantastical Metropolis, but it feels as if it’s been
hand-built by humans rather than conjured up with 1’s and 0’s. Based on this footage alone,
Dyas is fast approaching Alex McDowell status. As for Clark Kent/Superman, the most that can be said at this
point is that Brandon Routh looks the part if that part is a more conflicted Man
of Steel than we’ve previously seen. Happily, judging from Bryan Singer’s comments in the
below transcript of Saturday’s press conference, which followed the
well-received presentation, this seems to be precisely what he’s going
for. Having been
M.I.A. for five years, Superman has returned to Metropolis in a time of great
uncertainty brought on by some unnamed disaster meant to suggest 9/11. The love of his life,
Lois Lane
(Kate Bosworth), has moved on – her long-term relationship with Perry White’s
son has spawned an out-of-wedlock child – while the rest of the world seems to
have inured itself to life without its caped savior. Essentially, both Clark Kent
and Superman must examine their own relevance as they attempt to reins_ert
themselves back into the lives of those they’ve previously
abandoned. This
is weighty stuff for Superman, but it’s the kind of allegorical storytelling
that’s served Singer well on his previous X-Men films, which used the mutants’ outcast status to explore
the issue of homosexuality. Will American audiences respond positively to such
thoughtful reinvention of their most beloved superhero, as they’ve recently done
with Batman Begins? Read on, as Singer does his
cautious best to put fandom’s fears to rest without spoiling too many of the
surprises in store for next summer.  How did you like the reaction? It was very good. It was very
flattering. Are you pleased with the reaction to Brandon
Routh? It’s hard when you just see a photograph of
it. It represents one
thing, and people interpret it.
It’s just a photograph. But when you see it in motion, how we’re treating
the lighting and color, and this was only our first pass at color timing – this
little piece was done on the fly – I think he sells it. If you were to meet
Brandon in the suit, that’s when you really feel, “Oh,
that’s Superman. I get
it.” I hope it will be
a good reaction. You
can please some of the people some of the
time. I
was interested in your reaction to the question about how you related personally
to Superman. Can you
talk about that? Well, sort of what I said: I am adopted, I’m an
American, I’m an older child, and Superman was these three things, except what
interested me is that he’s the ultimate immigrant. What makes him different, his special heritage; he
carries it with pride in the sense of the suit. He’s very idealistic, unlike Wolverine, who’s very
cynical. He kind of
represents a bit of what
America is, and the pitfalls one experiences in their
idealism. I very much
like the character; I find him very pleasant. I’d like to think that there are people like
Superman, or aliens like Superman that
existed. You
said that the John Williams theme will be used in this film.
Yes. Will that be played over the opening
credits? Yes.
Will the opening credits be similar to the Christopher Reeve
films? Similar. It will have some other elements to it, but it will
be similar – “in the spirit of.”
Could you talk about the Marlon Brando [blooper] footage? Is there any chance that this
is going to show up on a DVD? I have no idea. It’s definitely fascinating to look at. Like any movie, sometimes
when you’re filming, you get the words right. Sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you talk about it. So, I don’t know what would
be appropriate and what would be inappropriate to put on a DVD. That would probably come down
to the estate’s rights with Marlon Brando. We have the rights to use these elements and aspects
of him as Jor-El, but whether you can use… I don’t even know if I’m violating
any rights by telling you about Brando bloopers, but they’re definitely
fun. But when he’s on,
he’s on as Jor-El.
It’s amazing. How did you end up directing Superman
Returns? I directed two X-Men films. (Laughter.) And I love Superman. I have enough credibility, I
guess, where Warner Brothers will trust me with what they consider one of their
largest franchises.
We heard you were having some issues with the Australian
location. The only issues with
Australia, for me, is just the personal distance. My family lives in
New
Jersey, and my home is in L.A.
And, god forbid, should something happen to my family, it’s
twenty-two hours of travel.
But so far the crew has been extraordinary. We’ve got a lot of people off
King Kong, we’ve got a lot
of other folks off Star
Wars and The
Matrix. They
have a terrific crew.
For me, it’s just a combination of a little homesickness, and, on
[certain days], it will get to me. It’s intangible, because the place is beautiful;
Sydney is one of the most beautiful cities in the
world. In
the footage you showed downstairs, we saw that
Lois Lane is
married and has a kid. Yes.
How did Warner Brothers react to that? I pitched Alan Horn, Jeff [Robinov]
and Polly [Cohen] the story, and they responded to it. It comes to a
conclusion. It’s sort
of about Superman finding his place in the world that’s very much changed, and
ultimately he does at the end of the picture. It leaves some things open for future films, but
they just responded to it quite instantaneously. Because I said my deal to make this movie was made
in seventy-two hours. Has the success of Batman Begins made you look at Superman Returns any
differently? No, I don’t think about other films [in terms of]
their success, both financially and critically. I actually don’t. I look at this film individually, completely
separate from that.
I’m excited.
It’s good for Chris [Nolan], it’s good for Warner Brothers and it’s
good for Batman, but it’s not something I can factor into the movies I make one
way or the other. Your X-Men films had a lot of nods to comic book fans. Is there anything like that
in Superman Returns for
them? Oh, absolutely. There’s two cameos; Noel Neil and Jack Larson, who
played the original Lois
Lane and Jimmy Olsen from the 1950’s T.V. series.
Jack Larson plays a bartender? Yeah, yeah. Jack Larson plays the
bartender. With Jimmy
Olsen in the scene, so it’s great. They have a scene together. It was fun to shoot. It was a very long day;
Jack… flew fifteen hours to get there and then worked an eighteen hour
day. He’s not young,
but he’s got a lot of energy.
I was impressed.
Can you talk a little bit about the casting of Kate Bosworth
as Lois
Lane? I saw the movie Beyond the Sea twice. She was phenomenal. I really liked her, and I
brought her in to read with Brandon, and they had chemistry. It was a combination of her
work in Beyond the Sea, and
the chemistry she had in the room with
Brandon, and the general sense I had in the meeting. I’ve had a good record with
casting, and it’s always been the meetings when I make [my
decision]. Did you and Brandon watch the other Superman movies
together? We looked at some of the original Superman just to take a look at
it together, but by no means did I ever say, “Act like Christopher
Reeve”. It’s weird
with Brandon:
one moment he’s a dead ringer for Christopher Reeve; the next
minute, he’s completely different. He’ll have moments where you’ll recall the first
film, and moments where he’s his own Clark, he’s his own
Superman. How much rewriting did you do with Michael Dougherty and Dan
Harris on the set? It was pretty far along, but, you know, my style is
everyday we invent something new.
Everyday I freak out and change something, which also has a ripple
effect on everything I’m going to shoot. It happened just the other day, but it’s always
exciting; it’s always for the best. It’s a mixed bag, but that’s why it’s great having
Dan and Mike there all the time, because I can sit there and suddenly say, “Why
am I doing this? This
should happen.” And
they’re right there to help me make it happen. Or vice
versa. How
much did you dip back into the comic books for this other than what was based on
the other movies? Very little.
Very little? Little to none. It’s mostly original material. If you look back at the comic
history, they’ve done pretty much everything. Superman’s rescued everything, picked up everything,
thrown everything, caught and captured everything. Everything’s bounced off of him. You have to just sort of see
what serves the story you’re telling at the given moment. But there’s definitely a
respect to taking an overview of the series, and an overview of the movies, and
an overview of the series, and an overview of the musical, which I’ve seen. (Laughter.)
Taking a piece of everything… all its incarnations to kind of give a
general… For
the continuity of the Lois
Lane character, did you make any changes to
Kate Bosworth’s eye color? No.
I like her different eyes. I find that
interesting. Perry White’s son is married to
Lois
Lane. Doesn’t this run the risk of making Superman a
homewrecker? Not a homewrecker – it’s just what happens when old
boyfriends come back into your life. Something happens, and it’s tough. They’re not married. Richard White and
Lois Lane are not married. And you don’t ask her about that question. Not Kate, but the character
of Lois. She doesn’t
like that question. But whose child is it? It’s [Lois’s] and
Richard’s. But they’re not married. They’re not married. It’s a child out of
wedlock. I know, it’s
very racy. (Laughter.)
What was the big creative challenge of making Superman
relevant for audiences today? The biggest creative challenge is to just make a good
movie. I don’t really
care about “the relevance of today”. I don’t particularly worry about where we are right
now, because where we are right now, or what you consider today, will be
different tomorrow.
So, I just basically wanted to be respectful to the Superman
universe. The one
thing that makes it more modern is the fact that it is about what happens when
old girlfriends come home.
The world has moved on since Superman was the idealistic young man
who emerged from the Fortress of
Solitude. How are you going to play Lex Luthor? Campy like Gene Hackman, or
more sinister like Michael Rosenbaum on Smallville?
I think you’ll find there’s humor. I don’t particularly think
Gene Hackman was campy; I think Gene Hackman was phenomenal. But on the other hand, with
Otis and the way it unfolded, there was a kind of humor… I’m kind of exploring
some of that humor, but, at the same time, he’s probably going to be a bit
darker, a bit edgier – somewhere in between what you’re seeing in Smallville and what you saw in
the first Superman.
And then Parker Posey and Kal Penn— Yeah, Parker Posey, Kal Penn and a
group of thugs, which are kind of modeled loosely after the crime gang in the
musical. Which has
very little to do with this movie. Please don’t say, “He’s basing it on the musical!” (Laughter.)
What about the discussion of an IMAX 3-D
version? We discussed an IMAX version. As far as the 3-D version, I
have to see the demonstrations of how to do that without shooting [the film]
that way. In theory,
the best way to do 3-D is shooting it 3-D. Jim Camron is doing Battle Angel Alita in 3-D – he
showed me the camera he’s using, and it’s quite extraordinary – but as far as us
doing a 3-D release, we would have to re-render other elements of the digital
world. So, we’ve not
yet discussed the notion of rendering our digital effects in 3-D. That discussion hasn’t
started yet, because I’d like to see some demonstrations of what that looks
like. Obviously, the
film hasn’t been shot in 3-D; we’re shooting the film with something called
the Genesis camera.
We’re the first film to really utilize this camera; it was built
from the ground up by Sony and Panavision to look more like film than any
digital camera that, to date, has done. It’s quite fascinating. When I did Brandon Routh’s
screen test, I did it in both 35mm and 70mm, and when I looked at the 70mm image
and the resolution, I said, “God, if only we could shoot this in 70mm! But it’s not possible with
the weight of the cameras, the lenses and the rigs. Processing the film… it’s
just not possible.”
But the Genesis camera came the closest to generating something
classic but new, and with a
resolution that will blow up to
IMAX. Your
DVD’s have always been pretty great. What are you planning for the Superman Returns
DVD? Well, Rob Burnett and his gang produce a pretty good
DVD. (Rob is actually manning a camera
filming this press conference, so he gives a self-deprecating look back to the
room as if to say, “Well, I’m okay.”) They’ve been with me since the re-release of The Usual Suspects, so they’ll
throw in whatever they think is relevant or fun. And we do these weblogs, which are a little
irreverent, mostly because I trust Rob and his team. I kind of trust these guys,
so I let them get a lot of behind-the-scenes footage that’s more
interesting. They’re
more fun. They’re not
like, (scholarly voice:)
“This is a green screen.
This is a camera.”
They actually show that there is a cast of characters not just in
front of the camera but behind the camera that are involved in making a
picture. When you make
a movie, it’s a kind of theater even that occurs. On any given day, I employ 800 people. By the finish of our run in
Australia, we’ll have employed 10,000 people. And that’s not including the
visual f/x houses, and thousands of people. So, to see a bit of all that, especially down in
Australia where it’s hard for you guys to come visit, it’s great to be able to
do that on DVD. It’s
great to be able to have that background. Hopefully, we’ll do it with fun and character, which
is like what you’ll see on BlueTights.net, which is a fan site that airs our
weblogs. Do
you have a personal favorite version of Superman? I think it was a combination of the
George Reeves series, and Richard Donner’s 1978 Superman. Those are my biggest
inspirations. You’ve called the film Superman Returns, and the theme of the film, in part, is
coming back. The
franchise is coming back for the first time [since 1987’s Superman IV: The Quest for
Peace]. Could
you talk about the pressure and the responsibility of taking this franchise
forward? I feel an enormous responsibility especially because
it’s Superman. It’s an
icon that surpasses probably any comic icon, and most icons that exist in
popular culture. I
guarantee you the cross and [the Superman “S”] into the jungle, and you will
have 50-50 recognition.
It’s an extraordinary
responsibility. Do you want to do another Superman movie after
this? I have no
idea. X-Men
2.5? We’ve talked about it. Rob was talking to me about it, and, yeah, I’d
participate, obviously, because I’m very proud of The X-Men films, particularly
the second X-Men film, and
it would be fun to go back and look at it and talk about it, and throw in some
pieces and bits that haven’t been
seen. What
were the physical challenges of doing Superman Returns? It’s huge. That’s why it’s so funny; I’m showing a character
piece [at the convention], but the movie is huge. There are 1,500 to 2,000 visual effects
shots. It’s got
sequences where you’ve not seen this character do things of this scope. It takes you from outer space
to the depths of the ocean.
It’s quite a big
canvas. Do
you see the full range of his powers? You see most of them. A lot of them.
Any chance of seeing Krypto, the Super Dog?
(Laughter.)
No, but we have a little mascot on set we call “Dingo”, because we
think that’s funny. In
Australia, calling a dog “Dingo” would be like calling a dog
“Dog.” You’ve worked with Marvel and D.C. now. How would you describe the differences between the
companies? There’s no real difference. They’re both companies that
are passionate about their universes, and hold them dear, and are affording me a
great deal of trust in the direction I’m taking. I’ve been afforded, as with X-Men, tremendous control over
the picture… it’s just all support. It’s all good stuff. They’re doing a video game, and I’m involved with
that with EA. That’s
spectacular. That’s
going to be quite a video game.
It’ll be for the Next Generation console, which will be
amazing. And that’ll
be different. It’ll
have elements of the movie in it, but it’ll have elements that will make game
play more exciting in terms of the construction of Metropolis and Superman’s
powers. How
comedic are you playing the Clark Kent character? He’s goofy.
Clark is
definitely not young Clark
from the farm – I mean, you see a bit of that – but in The Daily Planet he’s
awkward. He’s the
invisible guy. He’s
playing a role. As
Quentin [Tarantino] said in [Kill
Bill Vol. 2], that’s his costume. Superman is him.
Did you recast Pa Kent? Pa Kent is dead. That’s Ben Hubbard, the
neighbor, who had the farm five miles down. And Ben Hubbard’s doing more than taking care of Ma
Kent.
(Laughter.)
What do you want to bring to this film that wasn’t brought to
the Donner film? I can’t think of anything. I think that’s a wonderful
film. Just bring him
back. There are things
that couldn’t do back then.
Now that we have rig removal and sophisticated visual effects, we can
do things technically that he couldn’t do back then, but I think for what he had
back then, he did an amazing job.
You couldn’t paint out cables back then; you just had to move the
camera in such a way, and Chris Reeve had to act it, and you had to hid things –
the rigs and that sort of thing.
What they did was very challenging back then. And we’re trying to meet the
challenge of today with flying.
Could you talk about creating your own version of Metropolis
rather than basing it loosely on New York
City like Richard Donner did?
Richard Donner didn’t base it
loosely on New York City, he made it New York
City. We have a
city that’s sort of… captures the whole idea of the film – a 1940’s love
story. So, it’ll be a
bit more Deco – Thomas Hart Benton kind of stuff. But ultimately it will be based on something between
today’s New York and the
New
York of 1938.
What do you think of Brett Ratner directing X3. He’s great.
He’s a good friend of mine, I’ve known him for years, and I’m excited
for him. I hope he has
enough time to make the picture. Superman Returns is currently slated for a
June 30,
2006 release.
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