JJ Abrams and Joshua Jackson Interview - FRINGE
9/9/2008
Posted by Cal
"Fringe" hits the airwaves tonight at 8:00 with a special two-hour pilot and will continue, all season long, at 9:00 Tuesday nights. With heavy inspiration from both "The X-Files" and "The Twilight Zone", Abrams tells the story of three unlikely investigators into the paranormal and cases that balance on the edge of "fringe science".
JJ Abrams joined star Joshua Jackson for a special press conference regarding the series and Collider was there to catch all the information. For the record, I was less than wowed by the "Fringe" pilot (Check out my review here) but I think that Abrams' track record so far has earned him the benefit of the doubt and I'll keep tuning in to see how the series progresses.
Question: Do you view this show and its contemporary setting through the filter of anything that's happening in American society at the moment? Does it really make any difference to Fringe which party takes over in January in terms of storytelling?
Jackson: I'm going to leave that one to you, boss.
Abrams: I really think that Josh should answer this because, first of all, because the show, I'll try to answer quickly in a non-political mode, which is, the show is obviously coming out at a time when every week we read or hear or see about some kind of potentially horrifying scientific breakthrough. The reality is that we are in a time, whatever party is leading the country, where science is out of control. Having said that, maybe everything is out of control and maybe the show should be called …. The political aspect of it is obviously—it wasn't created to mirror the election, all I'll say is hope is a good thing.
Q: Josh, I want to ask you a little bit about your decision to come back to TV. Were you purposely staying away from the genre for a while and decide to go back in, or was it this project specifically that drew you to getting back on TV.

Jackson: It was this project specifically that drew me back to TV. Frankly, first it was the quality of the script, which is now our pilot and the density of it. And the fact that even while it was a totally satisfying story unto itself, you can see that it was laid in there, the potential for a whole world, a whole universe of other stories. And the other J.J. on the line and his ability with the group of people that he keeps around him to tell these stories well over a long period of time. Because that was my hope, if I ever came back to television, to be part of a group of people who had the track record of being able to keep shows at a high level of quality over a long period of time. J.J., cover your ears. I think he's the best on TV at that right now.
Q: Were you staying away with the purpose for the last five years of not wanting to go back to TV and try to define yourself as not that character you had played? Or was it with intent or just happenstance?
Jackson: There was some purpose in that TV is exhausting. It takes a little while to recover, but I don't know. It's hard to say. I try not to live my life as much as possible defining myself against something. So I wasn't really too worried about coming back and being labeled as "Pacey" or as that guy from Dawson's Creek because that's really an actor's job. If I get labeled as that, it's probably because I'm not good enough to define myself as something else. So I wasn't purposely running from that, but I certainly wasn't looking.
Q: In regards to all the different types of, I guess, going into this Fringe science, are the writers, is everybody sitting around and wondering how far can we push it before it becomes unbelievable? Or is that one of the nice things about this type of genre work where you can keep everything together and be able to tell something maybe far-fetched, really true science fiction type stuff to still keep the audiences in?
Abrams: Thanks for the question. The truth is that when we did the pilot for Lost, we had the monster appear at the end of the first act. We did that very consciously because we wanted to say to the audience, "We're jumping the shark now," like we're doing crazy stuff from the beginning. We're not going to wait. On Fringe, we very consciously did what is in many ways a preposterous out there, far-fetched scientific story point in order to say to the audience, "This is what you're going to be getting on the show." Now it may be more extreme in some cases, less so in others. Some shows, I think, as we're writing scripts will deal with science very much as it exists. But I think for the most part the fun about it for me with movies and TV shows, especially in the genre of either horror of sci-fi is that pushing of the envelope and going further than you might otherwise. I think the show will definitely be pushing the edge of the envelope, but I don't think it's going to be about that. I don't think we're going to be trying to top ourselves every week because then we'll just be in a race against ourselves and then there's no way to win that one. So I feel like the key is to tell stories that are as compelling, as emotional, as funny and certainly as weird and out there as possible, but not to try and have it be exploiting that aspect of the show. I would rather be delving into who these people are and what makes them tick than doing something just for shock value.
Q: J.J., for you what did you see in Josh that made him right as your "Peter Bishop"? Josh, for you, talk about working with John Noble and Anna Torv and what interests you about "Peter's" relationships with their characters.

Jackson: Should I put the phone down for a couple minutes?
Abrams: You can go first.
Jackson: I go first? Okay. I'm sorry what was the second half of the question again? What is it about Anna and John that brings "Peter Bishop" to life?
Q: John especially because he's playing the character kind of like a little bit of a mad scientist type of way and Anna is very straightforward. So it's interesting for you to play off of, I'm sure. And then what interested you about the character's relationship to their characters?
Jackson: Actually, the answer to both ultimately becomes the same because while there's a lot of stuff going on with "Peter Bishop," what I'm finding is a lot of the fun of playing him is exactly what you described, the relationship basically which boils down to being a translator more often than not between "Walter," who is brilliant, but sort of half cracked, and then "Olivia," who is an intensely no-nonsense type person. She's not the type of character that you would sit down and have a lyrical, philosophical conversation with. She's very much a "Just the facts, ma'am" type of person. And you bring this other character, this "Peter" character, into that world who has to try and be the go-between, and initially the extremely reluctant go-between who's really only brought in by happenstance and then can't get himself out. That's an interesting dynamic because ultimately what that boils down to in my mind, and J.J., feel free to correct me, is a very typical dysfunctional family. And you put that dynamic, something that's relatable and understandable to everybody, and you put it in this fantastically outrageous world of Fringe and it makes for an interesting day's work.
Abrams: To answer your question, I've known Josh a little bit for a long time back in the days of Dawson's Creek. I was doing Felicity, so we were sort of in that same universe—
Jackson: Actually, not to make this too romantic, but I remember the first time we met.
Abrams: At Disney.

Jackson: Yes, exactly, at the screening for Felicity.
Abrams: That's right. I've always been a fan and loved his sense of humor and also the gravity that I thought that he could bring to something, even something as soap operatic as the stuff you were doing on the WB. I felt that same way about when I was working with Keri Russell. It's like you find, there are actors, you go, "Okay, they are really good, they elevate the material. They make it better." As a director/writer/producer, all you ever want is to work with actors who make you look better, who make the work you do seem as good as it can be and even better than it is. I always felt that Josh had that ability. I'm thrilled to finally get a chance to work with him.
Q: So with the Anna and Josh chemistry we have going on, will there be love in their future? Josh, you also mentioned at the premiere that it would be kind of inappropriate for their characters to get together. Inappropriate how, if you could both touch on that?
Jackson: I'll leave the big question to you, J.J., but the little question, actually what I said at the premiere was that it would be inappropriate in the pilot because it's awkward hitting on a woman when her boyfriend is dying in front of her eyes. But the big question I'll leave to you, J.J.
Abrams: The odds are so much better. There's no doubt going to be a sort of slow burn relationship that develops between the two of them. I don't think it will happen exactly as you might think. But there obviously will be a dynamic there that we will play up, but like Josh said, it needs to be burned and it needs to be done right. There's a lot going on their lives on the show that are more urgent issues, but there's definitely going to be over time a relationship between the "Peter" and "Olivia" characters.
Q: Is there some point you want to make about corporations in this and how much will that figure in the show?
Abrams: The show doesn't quite hit on the corporate conspiracy aspect, as the pilot might suggest, but there definitely is an ambiguous role that is played by Blair Brown. She works for a company that it's much more important, the relationship between her boss, who we have yet to meet, and "Walter," John Noble's character. Their back story, how they ended up where they are, these are things that are much more about the characters than about a sort of cliché, cynical look at corporate culture. Having said that, I don't trust corporate culture at all.
Q: Can you tell us who is playing her boss and how soon we might see him?
Abrams: I can't tell you that yet, but I can tell you that you will definitely meet him, he'll definitely be a featured part of the show. We want to make sure that when you meet him it's something you're hungry for, as opposed to something that you're just experiencing. So the way it's going to happen, which will happen over time, but by the end of the first season you'll meet "William Bell."
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