Miles Teller, Kate Mara, Michael B. Jordan, and Jamie Bell to Star in FANTASTIC FOUR

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We have passed along Fantastic Four casting rumors for nearly a year now.  It seems Fox is very close to finalizing the cast.  THR reports the studio is in the final stages of negotiation with Miles Teller for Mr. Fantastic, Kate Mara for Invisible Girl, Michael B. Jordan for the Human Torch, and Jamie Bell for The Thing.  Bell is the only name we have yet to hear attached to the project, but he’s a great addition to a promising young cast.  Mara, nearly 31, is the oldest of the group.  Heck, she’s older than director Josh Trank (Chronicle), who just turned 30.  The age range may not match the public conception of the Marvel superhero group, but such a group of fresh voices reassures the reboot will look nothing like Fox’s other Fantastic Four attempts.

Fantastic Four is scheduled for release on June 19, 2015.  Hit the jump for background from the comics.

Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia with the character bios from the comics:
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  • Mister Fantastic (Reed Richards), a scientific genius, can stretch, twist and re-shape his body to inhuman proportions. Mr. Fantastic serves as the father figure of the group, and is “appropriately pragmatic, authoritative, and dull”. Richards blames himself for the failed space mission, particularly because of how the event transformed pilot Ben Grimm.
  • Invisible Girl/Invisible Woman (Susan Storm), Reed Richards’ girlfriend (and eventual wife) has the ability to bend and manipulate light to render herself and others invisible. She later develops the ability to generate force fields, which she uses for a variety of defensive and offensive effects.
  • The Human Torch (Johnny Storm), Sue Storm’s younger brother, possesses the ability to control fire, allowing him to project fire from his body, as well as the power to fly. This character was loosely based on a Human Torch character published by Marvel’s predecessor Timely Comics in the 1940s, an android that could ignite itself. Lee said that when he conceptualized the character, “I thought it was a shame that we didn’t have The Human Torch anymore, and this was a good chance to bring him back”. Unlike the teen sidekicks that preceded him, the Human Torch in the early stories was “a typical adolescent — brash, rebellious, and affectionately obnoxious.” [...]
  • The Thing (Ben Grimm), Reed Richards’ college roommate and best friend, has been transformed into a monstrous, craggy humanoid with orange, rock-like skin and super-strength. The Thing is often filled with anger, self-loathing and self-pity over his new existence. He serves as “an uncle figure, a long-term friend of the family with a gruff Brooklyn manner, short temper, and caustic sense of humor”. In the original synopsis Lee gave to Kirby, The Thing was intended as “the heavy”, but over the years, the character has become “the most lovable group member: honest, direct and free of pretension”



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  • Jim Bo

    Awesome cast, can’t wait for it!

  • TimeTravelMan

    How many movies are Teller/Jordan going to do? What next Lethal Weapon reboot with Jordan as Riggs and Teller as Murtaugh?

    • scheebles

      Seriously? Jordan has been in 4 movies total since 2012.

      • TimeTravelMan

        I mean Jordan and Teller in movies together. There was Awkward Moment, A heist movie (article below this one) and now this.

    • randommale7

      To be honest, if they had to remake it with young actors I would back those choice ;)

    • Batt Damon

      I would watch the hell out of that.

    • grapes9h5

      Um actually that would be probably awesome!!!

    • Jamesy

      If or when they do the eventual reboot. I would be pretty happy if they went with Teller and Jordan tbh!

    • Jamesy

      If or when they do the eventual reboot. I would be pretty happy if they went with Teller and Jordan tbh!

  • Ruprect

    Liked the cast of the 2 previous FF films, hated the movies. Hopefully this will be a mirror image because right now, as an old-school John Byrne era FF fan, I hate this casting.

  • Dev1359

    Really dig the Kate Mara casting (mostly because she’s so hot :) )…my bet is this will be heavily based off of Ultimate FF since they’re going with such a young cast

  • Hiff Cluxtable

    A British Thing?! Blasphemy! Thanks, Elizabeth II!

    • Marineboy

      Just can’t stand this casting….wtf are they thinking???

  • Jessi

    So are they going to pretend that Johnny and Sue are adopted siblings or something?

    • Nico

      Well that’s easier to believe then the fact that he’s fire and she’s invisible. lol

    • rgl

      or they are biological siblings with different moms/dads or step siblings or a millon other possibilities. have you never met a blended race family before?

      • vpuik

        I bet they are going to biological siblings with different mom and dad.

      • Jessi

        Yes I have. Plenty of times, but this is Hollywood we’re talking about. I’d be surprised if they go the route vpuik just mentioned.

  • randommale7

    To be honest I think I’d like it better if Teller and Bell swapped roles but I guess we’ll see; good cast though!

    • T Beck

      Glad I wasn’t the only one who’s first thought was that those two should switch..

    • Norrtron

      Yeah Teller seems kind of goofy to me for the role of Mr. Fantastic, but since I haven’t actually seen one movie he’s been in I’m not going to nay say the casting choice too hard.

  • ZladSupersonik

    The only casting I like is Kate Mara and Michael B Jordan.
    Kate Mara is a good actress and really hot to me.
    Michael B Jordan has the charisma to pull off Johnny.
    But Miles Teller and Jamie Bell as Reed and Ben scream “too young” and really don’t fit at all. I understand wanting to be a movie first, and it doesn’t always have to be comic book accurate all the time, but it’s basic fundamentals to the characters that they are a bit older and buddies that you can tell have been for a long time.

  • hockablah

    it’s not that Jordan is cast as Johnny Storm that i have a huge problem with, it’s the fact that the chick playing Susan Storm is suppose to be his biological sister. they should have A) cast a young black woman to play Susan as well or B) cast Jordan as Mr. Fantastic (which would have been much better and would have avoided the whole “a burning black man” issue that is bound to happen. i’d rather see an interracial couple than a gigantic comic-continuity error and a bunch of dumb people remarking on the whole black man burning issue that will arise).

    • Alec Safreno

      Not sure I agree with the last part. Sounds more like mountains out of mole hills, but you’re right about Sue and Johnny being siblings. Or at least suppose to be. Not sure how they’re going to spin it. If they’re clever, they’ll still make them siblings or allude to it. Find a way to make light of the situation, much like Marvel did with Don Cheadle as the new Rhodes

      • Bob

        Step siblings? Or one was an orphan adopted by one of their parents very young(I like this way the most prob)? Plenty of ways.

      • Bucky

        They could make a quick joke about it like in Easy A with her little brother mentioning that he is adopted and the father asking “who told you?!”

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        But what’s the point of doing it ?

      • Rob

        Maybe because they found actors that fit what they wanted and did not want to let race get in the way of casting them.

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Where was all that race don’t matter crap when they were casting the last airbender ?

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Where was all that race don’t matter crap when they were casting the last airbender ?

      • 80sRobot

        Kate Mara looks like she could be biracial (as opposed to Saoirse Ronan who had been considered for the role). So I would present that Mara and Jordan could pass as blood siblings who have the same parents (one who is white, the other black). This wouldn’t have worked as well had Ronan got the role.

    • TimeTravelMan

      Who says they will be biological siblings in the movie?

      • grapes9h5

        he’s assuming they aren’t, that his point.

    • 80sRobot

      I agree — if they wanted to go for an all-young FF cast, then they should have considered Jordan for Reed, and cast Saoirse Ronan for Sue. I had posted this idea before.

      As for Sue and Johnny being biologically related: Kate Mara looks like she could “pass” as biracial. So yes, they could still say the two are brother and sister with the same parents (one white, one black). (So I hope they don’t imply Jordan’s Johnny was adopted — there’s no need to.) Had Saoirse been cast, I don’t think she would have been believable as biracial. I wonder if this may have been a factor in Kate getting the part over Saoirse.

      But now Reed is cast by a young guy, which totally throws off the age dynamic between him and Sue from the original comic characters.

    • hockablah

      and for all of you who say that Mara and Jordan could be biracial siblings have obviously never have passed a biology class. if the father was black and the mom was white, both siblings would look more black than white, and if the father was white and the mother was black then they would both look more white than black. either way, they would both have very similar skin tones. but they don’t. not even fucking close. the ONLY way they can make this work and have them be remotely biological siblings is if they shared the same mother and not the father.

  • mixedkidmonkey

    wow brutal! all of you nimrods are praising this crap but bashing the casting of jai courtney as kyle reece? lol. hilarious, didn’t know collider users were such idiots. a black human torch? what? mr.fantastic younger than invisible woman? what? the thing being a scrawny white guy? just putrid. josh trank make a comic book shaky cam movie and hes now a great director? give me a break. this is just stupid and anyone looking forward to this, i sentence you to watch elektra and ghostrider 2 for the rest of your lives. god damn peons. wow

    • hockablah

      both casting decisions for Fantastic Four and Terminator are terrible.

    • Zox

      You really should ask NYU for your parents money back.

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        He’s obsessed with me
        He never finished high school

    • Scratch89

      You’re not a very happy person, are you?

    • Agent777

      What do you expect from a guy named Trank. I mean it’s like when they hired a guy name Pitoff (first and last name) to direct Catwoman. You know your in trouble.

  • eternalozzie

    as much as I complain about super hero movies here I would want to see this cast no matter what kind of movie they were cast in. it will be interesting to see bell become the thing. he’s like 145lbs wet … time for some good cgi

  • Tom

    Well, I do enjoy that cast. Minus Miles Teller.

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  • Batt Damon

    As a hardcore FF fan I’m oddly OK with this

  • thecubiksrube

    Bell doesn’t seem “gruff” enough for Thing

  • Thomas

    hmmm… I can’t see this cast as the FF. but the movie isn’t out yet, so…

  • Bob

    Its actually a great cast…just not what you would picture for Fantastic Four. I guess it’s a good sign there trying to be different and a little original but idk. We’ll see I guess.

    The Avengers vs Fantastic Four it looks like….hehe who am I kidding Avengers will destroy this, more like Avengers vs Star Wars.

    • bidi

      either way, Disney wins

    • bidi

      either way, Disney wins

    • Agent777

      It’s only a great cast if the cast fits the characters/story.

  • ʝoe ßloggs

    aiyaiyaiyaiyai…

  • Theodore Trout

    I don’t get this casting at all, and I’ve been a Fantastic Four fan since the late sixties, I’m wearing their emblem on my T-shirt right now as a matter of fact.
    Why not stick to the blueprint ?
    The first 100 issues of FF were about as good as superhero comics ever got.
    If anybody ever does a faithful adaptation, it will be a terrific movie.
    Not seeing it here. ‘The Incredibles’ is the closest we’ve gotten to a decent screen adaptation of FF.

    • The Flobbit

      Hmm…stretchy hero. Check. Big strong hero. Check. Invisible girl. check. Fiery hero. Check. DAMN!

      • vpuik

        Husband and wife. I don’t think so. Brother and sister. Doubt it. College roommate. That one we can live with. Father and mother. You must be joking!

      • Theodore Trout

        Read the first 100 FF comics. The team is led by an eminent scientist who gets them all changed into super-powered weirdos, his December/May child bride, her kid brother, and the eminent scientist’s college room-mate.
        Oh, and Doctor Doom is a guy.

    • Ruprect

      Like I said in my post, I’m a John Byrne era guy so I will debate you about the first 100 issues being the best. Other than that I agree with you. Horrible casting.

      • Theodore Trout

        I like John Byrne too, he was the only guy who could draw Kirby’s Thing ‘on-model’.

      • Ruprect

        Not familliar with that term. Explain, please?

    • Agent777

      I got into the Masterworks as a 90′s kid, and the Lee/Kirby years are just magnificent, and easily have held up generations later. I refuse to see any of these new Marvel films which show no connection to the source. It’s like seeing a Lord of the Rings film that has nothing to do with the books (or the 1998 Godzilla abomination). What’s the point? Comic movies, like the 90′s Dick Tracy, should transport you into the world and show you why it’s a good story and an interesting fantasy world. Not devise ways to get Captain America and Iron Man out of their mask every five minutes.

  • Raptor Jesus

    Childhood raping in 3, 2, 1…..

    • Ruprect

      Fox and Tim Story already accomplished that for me with the first two movies. To continue the metaphor, this casting is like the crisis counsellor calling my inner child a whore.

  • Mezmero

    I don’t know about the choice for the Thing but the rest is cool.

  • Jim Bo

    NO ONE CARES

  • orianalianna

    Wow…This is actually WRONG. Like this is actually morally wrong. If a beloved African American character like say Falcon, Storm, Black Panther, Spawn, Cyborg, Green Lantern, ( not hal or guy FYI) Martian Manhunter, etc. were taken and turned into white characters – there would be an UPROAR. Where the racist card would be thrown all over the place. Yet a well known and established well beloved character who is FACTUALLY white – is now black.

    RACIST
    RACIST
    RACIST
    RACIST

    There is no black Johnny Storm. They are doing this for seriously unethical reasons.

    If Marvel is in short supply of African heroes THAT IS THEIR FAULT. Why are we paying for their prejudice past decisions?!

    If they really cared about looking more modern – why aren’t there any Super powered female title movies in production? Transexual superheroes in their comics? GAY superheroes in their comics and on screen? Or Latino title roles? Because they don’t actually care. They are just placating – and that is WRONG.

    Blacks should have their OWN memories and their OWN superheroes. Not recycled, regurgitated or rehashed heroes from a prejudice past; just to get them to STFU.

    I wouldn’t have given a crap if they made the ENTIRE family black and created a new universe for the comics to expand it – that would be right and agreeable if it HAD to be done. But choosing just one who isn’t even black in ANY of the universes and is a BLOOD sibling of a very much Caucasian family is absolutely disgusting and transparent.

    Johnny Storm is not African American anymore than Storm is white – period.

    • Thomas

      I agree with you.
      but maybe a reverse-michael-jackson-therapy?

    • goop

      How are you paying for their prejudice? I don’t think you’re being made to suffer here. This sounds like the classic “well if you can’t solve ALL of the social disparities, then you can’t even work on one of them” argument.

      It’s a matter of representation. Does this fix the problem, oh my god, not by a long shot. Is your rant racist? Yes. I see your attempt to come off as forward thinking, by mentioning other marginalized groups, and saying they need space, but you’re not actually advocating that they be given fair representation. You’re arguing that if everyone can’t be represented then no one should be, except heterosexual white people. And that’s just a round about way of saying you like and want to maintain the status quo.

      Let’s talk about the fact that their are hundreds of white heroes, and maybe dozens of black heroes, and even less heroes of other races. Change the race of 1 white superhero, shit even 10, and there is very little impact. Change the race of a black hero – or geez, a pan-asian hero, a latino hero etc – and you’ve just wiped out a sizable percentage of that races representation in the superhero genre.

      It’s like comparing Shaft (who has 4 movies) to James Bond (who has 23), and advocating that a race swap for one is like a race swap for the other. It’s silly, the numbers prove how silly that is.

      • orianalianna

        Just to be clear here: I’m not white.

        I don’t want a clearly white character recycled just to placate. If that’s racist to you I can’t help you there. I’m not saying anything about being happy about the ‘status quo’ I am sooooo far from the status quo – I’m a Middle Eastern woman. Your concept of a status quo is not only foreign to me – it doesn’t exist in my area of the world.

        Now that is all I’ll say about that part, just so we’re clear you’re not talking to your average American.

        As for my list of ‘races’ – you can’t seriously expect me to list them all HERE. I was listing just a few of them in your country just for argument sake The list is endless if I began listing the rest of the worlds peoples. There has yet to be an Arab portrayed that isn’t wrapped in cloth by the comic industry – but that’s a different matter.

        My complaint here is:

        A character that has NEVER been black or Arab in my case :P before in ANY of the universes – should NOT be black or Arab now.

        Or female.

        I mean they change pigmentation but not sex and I’m made to stomach the notion that I am happy with the status quo? It’s ridiculous.

        Each and every individual deserves their own superhero – not recycled material in new packaging. That is a blatant spit in everybody’s face. It’s lazy, it’s half-assed and most importantly – it’s BORING. That’s all I’m saying.

        Okay so we changed a white guy to a black guy – now what? It’s the same guy , what exactly was the point of it? Is he suddenly going to stop being the Human Torch? No. So what is the REAL point?

        Nothing made of good intentions that’s for sure.

        Finally, just to put my stance into better perspective: I ADORE Storm because she is Egyptian. She was my fav super hero, a strong female character AND from MY world with real power. Marvel turned her into an African American. With absolutely no soul and no depth. Without even thinking twice about how people like me would feel about it. So I know what it’s like to have a character literally ripped out of your childhood life. I never got to see MY super hero on screen when I had a chance.

        I don’t wish it on anyone. It’s a HORRIBLE feeling. That’s what I mean by paying for their prejudice. That’s just one of many reasons why I will not go with this idea at all. If they want a more diverse community in their movies – start fresh and expand the universe. They make enough money they can afford to do that.

        Johnny Storm is not African American. Nothing Marvel can do or say can justify this decision on their part. It’s a cop out.

      • Grayden

        First off, Storm isn’t Egyptian. She’s half Kenyan(mother), half caucasian(father). She was actually born in NYC, before her parents moved to Egypt. She ended up being an orphan in Cairo after her parents died. So, she’s never been 100% African in origin.

        Now, the reason I point this out is because you have taken this character and made her into a source of inspiration, but you’ve changed her to fit your view of what you wanted her to be. Whether you knew her actual origin, or not.

        Point is, you insist that YOU are MADE to stomach the changes a film studio makes to an established franchise, (the fact that the comics universes have undergone multiple reboots and retcons, notwithstanding), but yet you want everyone else to accept that YOUR version of Storm is the right one, even though it factually is not?

        I don’t know any other way to say this, but it ultimately doesn’t matter. What you see on the comic page, doesn’t always work on the silver screen. Beyond that, I think comic book characters are meant to become whatever we want them to be. Yes, their powers stay the same, but what if a young asian kid thought Wolverine should be Japanese, instead of Caucasian? Should his imagination be questioned and called out? Do we never let this universe grow and change, instead insisting on it always staying static? Hate to break it to you, but it’s been changing, constantly, for decades. If your version of Storm can be a strong, powerful African woman of African decent, then Johnny Storm can be an adopted, african-american kid.

      • goop

        I never accused you of being white or American, so it’s weird that you’re saying that.

        You DID bring up the black/white American race paradigm though, so I addressed that, and I’m seeing that nothing you’ve written really touches on the things I took issue with in your first post. Side stepping – seems to be the go to for folks when they have little to say no matter what part of the world they’re from… hmmm.

        You are using the word ‘racist’ wrong. Your rant was racist, even if you’re not, the rant upholds a view that strips people of color of representation. That’s wrong.

        “You’re not actually advocating that they be given fair representation. You’re arguing that if everyone can’t be represented then no one should be.” — this is from my above post. You are still doing this. That view is very misguided.

        Also, while we’re naming off pointless identity qualifiers, I’m muslim (fyi. Islam is a popular religion in “your part of the world”), but that doesn’t really matter to the conversation. My point, stop bringing up irrelevant identity qualifiers to sidetrack a conversation.

        If you are some one that has been made to feel marginalized, stop advocating for the marginalization of others. Them not having a black Human Torch does not hurt Marvel, it hurts Michael B Jordan, and all the folks (regardless of identity) that would feel inspired by his presence.

    • cruzzercruz

      Because they’re all just people? American people at that. Adopted sibling can have strong bonds, too. But please, tell me more about how a person with literally all the character traits of Johnny Storm sans the skin color is somehow racist and taking away from poor white people.

    • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

      Lol
      Take off your white sheets and join us in the 21st century
      Those are fictional characters created for KIDS… They can be any race because kids don’t see race !!! Well they shouldn’t
      Yep
      Blade could be played by a white guy
      Black panther if the origin allows could be white
      I wouldn’t care either way
      Why?
      Because they’re fictional characters for KIDS
      If you’re a grown up and cares that much then you should get out more
      Look up the word “racism” and study its definition
      This is the 21st century, nobody checks white people emotion before doing something

      • orianalianna

        That’s YOUR opinion on the matter and it’s fine.

        As for getting out more – I’ll do that when the bombs stop going off.

        Did you think I was American?

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        I’m sorry
        I thought you were American
        But what I said stands
        They’re fictional characters
        They can be imagined in any way

      • orianalianna

        It’s cool I get it all the time. I’d like to think it as a good thing.

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        I’m just mad they didn’t go all the way and cast a black actress for sue storm
        I will not see the movie
        I already know it will be horrible

      • orianalianna

        EXACTLY! I wouldn’t have had a problem AT ALL if the family itself were all black. That’s the point. This is just them trying to get people to STFU about a real issue and they shouldn’t be allowed to entertain it anymore.

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Nah
        It’s just josh tank has a man crush on Michael b Jordan and demanded for his casting
        But that didnt mean they shouldn’t have had a black actress play sue storm
        I mean why is hollywood so afraid of interracial romance ?

      • orianalianna

        Because it’s run by a bunch of closet bigoted farts. Who treat social civil rights as a fashion trend.

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Meh I don’t really care
        I’m a DC comic kind of a guy
        But anyway lets look at the cast
        The teller guy will be annoying as mr. Fantastic
        He’s a douchebag, someone you just want to punch in the face
        Jamie bell as the thing !!???
        The guy is good looking, why would you want him as the thing ?

      • orianalianna

        I think Mo-Cap is going to be the primary factor of this installment. I just don’t see them filming the Thing with a guy in full make up. So Bell wouldn’t be at much of a disadvantage – but I’m just speculating.

      • mixedkidmonkey

        shut your damn monkey mouth…i went to nyu for 4 years NEVER, not ONCE did i see a colored on campass…you’re such a poser. you went to some crappy community college, hell you probably dont even have a degree…you’re way too shit for brains. lol

    • Convoy

      There’s a flaw in your comment. First. The current Spawn is white. Also, in the movie, they did make Terry Fitzgerald white. He was played by D.B. Sweeny. Second, of all the characters you mentioned, they are a drop in the bucket in the sea of endless white characters. So there would be an uproar because we only have a handfull of popular characters to begin with.

    • Convoy

      There’s a flaw in your comment. First. The current Spawn is white. Also, in the movie, they did make Terry Fitzgerald white. He was played by D.B. Sweeny. Second, of all the characters you mentioned, they are a drop in the bucket in the sea of endless white characters. So there would be an uproar because we only have a handfull of popular characters to begin with.

    • Jamesy

      I can see where you’re coming from, I have no problem with an actor who’s black or any other colour taking on a role that’s seen as a “white” role, if the actors the best fit for that character and can help bring it to life, then cool. Although I think there are some exceptions. But it kinda seems like they’re jumping on the bandwagon of “lets have a lead black actor, just to be, you know…modern and all” But why not save Jordan for a character who is actually BLACK, Black Panther, Blade, Cyborg, Black Lightning etc. Instead of having to reinvent a character in a way that’s gonna piss of people who are fans of the comics, i.e the audience who’s gonna make the movie a success or not. I don’t mean for this to come across the wrong way, but you can make the argument that if you make Johhny Storm black, then he’s no longer Johnny Storm. As the character was written as Caucasian, has been portrayed as Caucasian in all his forms, comics, cartoons movies, up until this point. It’s the same with Bond, if you make bond Black, or female, then is it still the same character? In my opinion no, as Bond was written to be played a certain way, by a certain type of actor of a certain colour. That isn’t to say that there can never be a Black, Latino or Middle Eastern superhero, spy or lead of an action movie. I just think they should somewhat stick to who the character is and supposed to be. Hope you can see my point.

      • orianalianna

        I see it and thumbs it up.

    • Jamesy

      I can see where you’re coming from, I have no problem with an actor who’s black or any other colour taking on a role that’s seen as a “white” role, if the actors the best fit for that character and can help bring it to life, then cool. Although I think there are some exceptions. But it kinda seems like they’re jumping on the bandwagon of “lets have a lead black actor, just to be, you know…modern and all” But why not save Jordan for a character who is actually BLACK, Black Panther, Blade, Cyborg, Black Lightning etc. Instead of having to reinvent a character in a way that’s gonna piss of people who are fans of the comics, i.e the audience who’s gonna make the movie a success or not. I don’t mean for this to come across the wrong way, but you can make the argument that if you make Johhny Storm black, then he’s no longer Johnny Storm. As the character was written as Caucasian, has been portrayed as Caucasian in all his forms, comics, cartoons movies, up until this point. It’s the same with Bond, if you make bond Black, or female, then is it still the same character? In my opinion no, as Bond was written to be played a certain way, by a certain type of actor of a certain colour. That isn’t to say that there can never be a Black, Latino or Middle Eastern superhero, spy or lead of an action movie. I just think they should somewhat stick to who the character is and supposed to be. Hope you can see my point.

    • yrulaughing

      “Why are we paying for their prejudice past decisions?!”
      I fail to see how we’re “paying” for anything, merely seeing a black actor play a character who is white in the comics.

    • Django9000

      You’re buying into some race baiting hype, buddy. Stan and Jack fought long and hard to be among the first to create an inclusive, multicultural and equally heroic cast – For Their Time. Jack Kirby’s Black Panther and Falcon characters represented his vocal and strong civil rights views, and Stan likewise had a long history of standing up for underespresented minorities (in his case often Jews but over time he reached across the globe, really).
      To any who pull reverse-race card as their knee jerk reaction, just step In to any outer borough of any city – especially New York City, where Lee & Kirby’s Marvel Universe is largely based, and take a look at the actual makeup of the Country your and my forefathers fought to defend: A Mixed, Blended, Immigrant populated and built multicultural and Free Nation. Stan and Jack are milestones in this fight, not ignoramuses. Wake Up, and breathe life back Into the 21st Century, instead of buying hype that would have us slide backward, back thru all the 20th century movements that the Marvel U. represented the High Ideals of, and nothing less. Amen.

    • The Destroyer

      Why do we have to make everything about race? This is 2014, get over it. Time to move on. Why can’t we see past race? I’m fine with Jordan playing Johny Storm because he is a phenomenal actor. He and Susan could be half-siblings, or adopted, it doesn’t really matter. As for other superheros, Black Panther and Susan Storm are from Africa, so it doesn’t make much sense to make them white, but I would be fine with those characters being white, and sometimes in the comics, they are white. And I’m fine with white superheros being made black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever. Again, it is 2014, can we please move on from this pathetic argument?

      • orianalianna

        Racism exists whether you like it or not and whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It’s not an argument – it is a fact. it is factually 2014 and racism, prejudice and sexism still exist. I suggest you read up on Africa also – they aren’t all black there.

      • orianalianna

        Racism exists whether you like it or not and whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It’s not an argument – it is a fact. it is factually 2014 and racism, prejudice and sexism still exist. I suggest you read up on Africa also – they aren’t all black there.

    • Mars

      You are so wrong. The Last Airbender, Dragonball, Speed Racer, 21, Extraordinary Measures….Asian characters changed to white (some are even non-fictional). People didn’t care. Everytime a black actor is even RUMORED for Bond or Captain America, the comments are at least 50% about race and how a black person can’t “embody the qualities of those characters like honor, patriotism, etc.” You’re “this is morally wrong” and “unethical” arguments are completely baseless.

  • The Flobbit

    Queue the dislikes, but I don’t like these casting decisions. Now let’s just put a big disclaimer “I FEEL THAT–” before we begin. I FEEL THAT…Miles Teller is far too young and immature for the level headed, grey-haired Mr. Fantastic. Michael B. Jordan, has got charisma and style, so he can pass.

    Kate Mara is an interesting casting decision. She’s a tremendous actress, but, having seen a lot of her work…she just lacks the charisma and charm of Invisible girl. Now her sister Rooney is another matter…

    But Jamie Bell is the worst casting decision of them all. Don’t get me wrong, he is a fantastic, versatile actor. He’s also 5’7 – the shortest of the group. Physically, he is the polar opposite of the meaty, giant Thing. He’s not that buff or built-up (see shirtless scenes in The Eagle)

    On the whole, I hope that the filmmaking can transcend these problems.

    • Pk

      Agreed miles is totally wrong for the part. But as for Jamie they are obviously going to have him mo cap for a huge cgi thing just like ruffulo did for the hulk

      • Pk

        Why didn’t they go for Richard madden for reed Richards? He’s better suited for the role

      • Jamesy

        Agreed, Richard Madden for Reed and James Purefoy or Jon Hamm for Dr Doom I’d have been happy with.

      • The Flobbit

        He’s still skinny and bony, and no CGI can fix his thin facial structure. This is no call against his acting or appearance; I love Jamie Bell. But I don’t see him as the Thing!

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  • cineast4

    Bell and Mara YES, Teller and Jordan NO…
    Don’t care for the director either…

  • Bhammer100

    Kate Mara? I’m in.

  • Zoidbert

    Oh, good; another origin movie. ()

  • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

    I don’t see it

  • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

    They should have cast the guy who played syd in London or at least the lead guy who was in The Loss of a Teardrop Diamond as the human torch

  • Josh

    this to me is an interesting cast. Why they decided to go for a younger look is beyond me. Personally i think Jordan should of been cast as the Thing, not that i have a problem with him as Torch but i know people are going to start stuff because of his color and how the connection of Johnny & Sue storm will be either adopted brother and sister or childhood friends now. at least if he was The Thing color wouldnt be an issue, he would of just did the voice and where a suit. Miles Teller and Jamie Bell in my opinion should of switched roles. The picture they used of Jamie Bell in this article of honestly looks like he is already Mr. Fantastic, look how long his fingers are and his ears, they already look stretchy. Miles Teller judging how he was in past movies could seriously pull off a Human Torch. Just my opinion tho

  • TrekBeatTK

    I like Michael B. Jordan a lot, but this is all kinds of wrong. Kate Mara is an inspired choice for Sue Storm, but otherwise this is going to be a disaster. Michael Chiklis was a great Ben Grimm. But Bell? Why must everyone in this cast be young and hip? That’s the exact opposite of what they should do.

    Whatever this ends up being, it will barely qualify as Fantastic Four and I sadly hope it fails harder than the last one so they rethink this direction.

    • Grayden

      I have to say of the original FF cast, only Chiklis and Evans really fit their roles as I imagined them. The rest were pretty weak. Having said that, there will be no appeasing ALL fans when it comes to casting. If they hired carbon copies of their comic book iterations, fans would complain. If they hire outside that pre-conceived notion, fans will complain. At the end of the day, should it matter what skin color or age the actors are? Let their abilities as actors be the real test of whether the casting was correct. It’s not their decision they were chosen, or convinced, to take the role. Ultimately, it lands squarely with the director.

      • TrekBeatTK

        “should it matter what skin color or age the actors are?”

        Yes, when a character has been the same color for 50 years and two of them are meant to be biological siblings. I don’t want to see that dynamic messed with.

    • Strong Enough

      Ultimate Fantastic four is the angle they are going for

  • bob

    Ok but who plays aunt Petunia ?

  • Gantz9

    Abomination. Other than Mara and possibly Jordan, this is a swing and a miss for me. Teen Fantastic 4. Pass.

  • sense11

    Kate Mara is the only good thing about this

  • Leo Atrox

    Michael B. Jordan is a great actor, but I just don’t see him as Captain America …

  • ScratStitch

    Can websites PLEASE stop referring to the last two Fantastic Four movies as “attempts”? The only movie that was an “attempt” was the 1994 low-budget film that was never even meant to be released, while the other two were crowd-pleasing box office hits.

  • ScratStitch

    Can websites PLEASE stop referring to the last two Fantastic Four movies as “attempts”? The only movie that was an “attempt” was the 1994 low-budget film that was never even meant to be released, while the other two were crowd-pleasing box office hits.

    • JBug

      Agreed, I didn’t hate the first two.

  • ScratStitch

    Can websites PLEASE stop referring to the last two Fantastic Four movies as “attempts”? The only movie that was an “attempt” was the 1994 low-budget film that was never even meant to be released, while the other two were crowd-pleasing box office hits.

  • TigerFIST

    I hate this!

  • TigerFIST

    I hate this!

  • partysub

    public conception?

  • partysub

    public conception?

  • Milk

    Really do not have an issues with any of them except Teller. He reminds me of another Shia Labeouf.

    • JBug

      THANK YOU! I couldn’t agree more.

    • Clay

      Miles Teller is ridiculously more talented than Shia Labeouf.

  • Milk

    Really do not have an issues with any of them except Teller. He reminds me of another Shia Labeouf.

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  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    “Aw Fuck it.” – Executives at Fox. I’ve pushed Michael Bay’s Ninja Turtles over this movie for most anticipated list. SMH.

  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    “Aw Fuck it.” – Executives at Fox. I’ve pushed Michael Bay’s Ninja Turtles over this movie for most anticipated list. SMH.

  • drewlicious

    I approve of the cast so far. But if they screw up Dr. Doom so help me God……..

  • Jamesy

    I’m pretty happy with this cast. Can see Mara as Sue Storm, happy with Jordan as Johnny, although I don’t know how they’ll get round the sibling situation. If they’ll have one of them adopted, if so I think it would be better to have Johnny adopted and been and orphan hence his attitude as an adult. But Teller as Mr Fantastic and Bell as The Thing seems a bit odd, doesn’t it seem it would be a better fit if they swapped roles? I enjoy both Teller and Bell in movies but they don’t seem old enough, although the writes etc obviously think they fit this version so hope it works out well.

  • TigerFIST

    I hate this!!!

  • Samuel Wick

    OMG……….. is Michael B. Jordan will be a human torch? Kate Mara in the role of the invisible woman? I think they could find a prettier woman…..

  • Agent777

    Michael Cera IS going to play Doctor DoomQ

  • Marineboy

    Does this mean Victor Von Doom is going to be 12?

  • NICK НΛRT

    LOL

  • cbtaylo

    People dissed Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury, now they LOVE it….so why cant that be the same for Michael B Jordan? Now if the storyline and director sucks then I can see people complaining but in the meanwhile, I will hold judgment.

    • Redjester

      Exactly. Michael B. Jordan is actually the one choice I don’t absolutely despise here.

    • Gantz9

      Michael B Jordan and Kate Mara are the least of my problems with this casting news. Teller and Bell are complete misses for me in this.

  • Redjester

    The silver lining here is that if the non Marvel owned properties (ex: Fantastic Four) continue to suck and under perform, perhaps Marvel can eventually purchase them back at a discount and reintroduce them into their universe.

  • brNdon

    Trank the tank. Seems like he is going to far out if his way to make something different.

  • Steven

    The casting in the original 2 movies was better. Not saying I liked them films all that much but the casting was more solid.

  • Steven

    The casting profession has gone to hell this past year or so. Lets not forget the fast talking nimrod Jesse Eisenberg is gonna be Lex Luthor. FFS

  • The Destroyer

    To the people complaining about the ages. All four actors are older than Jessica Alba and Chris Evans were when the original one was made, and Kate Mara will be about the same age of Ioan Gruffudd was when the original was made. You guys are freaking out because these actors played teenagers in the past, but they are all 27 and up.

  • Destroy a Franchise

    This movie is going to suck so hard! A black human torch? Ok, Hollywood is trying to market the movie to all ethnic groups, cool (aka whatev). Where is the asian Thing? Where is the latino Reed Richards? Where is the native American Sue Storm? Why is it when you want to express diversity in movies you only select a token black dude to play a role? The makeup of America is filled with much more than just white and black people. If you are going out of your way to make a movie multi racial, at least represent the actual makeup of what America looks like.

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