Simon Kinberg Turns in THE FANTASTIC FOUR Script; Testing for Leads of Reed Richards and Sue Storm to Occur Later This Month

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112 days ago, we reported that Simon Kinberg would be rewriting the Fantastic Four reboot.  As of today, that rewrite has been turned in, which means 20th Century Fox is expected to start testing leads later this month.  Names circling the lead roles include Miles Teller, Kit Harington and Richard Madden for Reed Richards, with Kate Mara and Saoirse Ronan for Sue Storm.  Michael B. Jordan is reportedly attached to star as Johnny Storm, and will test with each group to determine who has the best chemistry.  Director Josh Trank’s The Fantastic Four is due in theaters June 19, 2015.  Hit the jump for more.

Variety reports fantastic-fourthat Kinberg has turned in his rewrite of The Fantastic Four script, so now lead testing can commence in earnest.  We’ve had Jordan in line for Johnny Storm/Human Torch for a while now, with Teller’s involvement with the picture being nearly as long.  Harington, Ronan and Mara’s names have been buzzing about for a few months, but it seems as if previous contenders Jack O’Connell and Margot Robbie have been left out (from the report, at least).  This is the first time we’re hearing Richard Madden’s name as well.

While we may have plenty of names bandied about for Mr. Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, and the Human Torch, I haven’t heard mention of names for Ben Grimm/Thing just yet.  One would assume he’d be part of the team the others are testing for, but perhaps this will be done at a later date.  Even though Thing will likely be a CG-heavy addition, it’d be of interest to know who the filmmakers have in line for the part.

Head to the comments to let us know your ideal Fantastic Four dream team, and which of the above combinations you think works best.




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  • Raptor Jesus

    Johnny Storm is not black.

    Screw this.

    I generally could care less about race and casting. Black Hamlet? Bring it on. But Johnny Storm is NOT ADOPTED and NOT BLACK.

    • BarneyRubbleTrouble

      …What’s next, are we gonna have Michael Cera play Shaft?
      Smh dude.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULdm2NLrN4E

    • Colin

      Totally agree. There are several roles, i.e. Perry White, that can easily cross the color line, but you are messing with the origins, heritage, history of a well defined character. What if they cast Vin Diesel as the new “Blade”. People would be pissed!

    • TheOscarRP

      You whining about this actually does mean you care about race and casting. If it’s right for the role, who cares whether they’re white, black, Hispanic, Asian, or green?

      • RedMercury

        While I agree with you, the “whining” is more of a concern about fidelity to the story. At what point does “Johnny Storm” stop being the “Johnny Storm” from the comic books?

        There was the recent bit over on Fox News about how “Santa Claus is white!” Yes, Santa Claus is a mythical character. While he’s always been represented as a white man, there’s no reason he can’t be represented as a black man. But suppose you start changing more of the myth? Instead of making toys at the North Pole, he makes them in hidden swamp in Louisiana. He doesn’t come down chimneys, he comes up through the drains. He doesn’t have a sleigh with reindeer, he has a flying 1968 Coupe deVille convertible. At what point does this stop being a story about “Santa Claus” and start being a story about someone else?

        Now, personally, I don’t really think it matters if Johnny Storm is black or white. I don’t see any reason that he couldn’t be black and be the adopted brother of Sue Storm. I don’t think it will have an appreciable effect on the story. But it is troubling for many who would maintain that their fictional heroes look and act a certain way. Consider the many people who were up in arms when Daniel Craig was given the roll of James Bond (“James Bond is NOT BLONDE!”). Or Keanu Reeves as Constantine. Or Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.

        Here’s an entertaining Marvel example: Remember Generation X? They hired a white girl to play Jubilee (Jubilation Lee). Is that okay? After all, it’s just a re-imagining. There’s no good reason that Jubilee can’t be white, right?

        Yet there was an outcry from fans that Jubilee is asian.

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Why the fuck does he have to be the adopted brother of sue storm ???
        Black kids are not bragging rights to you white people !!!!
        Sue storm gotta be black too

        Yes jubilee can be white
        She’s a fictional character !!!

      • Guest

        If Johnny is going to be African-American, then I would vote Sue be too. It just seems like it would fit better and not be a cop-out.

        HOWEVER — look up pictures of Michael B. Jordan and Kate Mara. I would say that compared together they could plausibly be passed off as blood siblings with the same parents (where one is white and the other black). I say Kate Mara could pass as a character of mixed-race who she looks more white. It could work if mama and papa Storm make a brief appearance, and the story quickly moves on and doesn’t make a big deal of it.

      • RedMercury

        True–Sue could be the adopted sister of Johnny Storm.

        Hey, it’s fiction. Why does Sue have to be black?

      • Hudson Faber

        I’m an adopted Black kid. For my White family it wasn’t about “bragging rights.” The kids up for adoption in our area were predominantly Black. Get over yourself. Maybe Johnny should be adopted just to educate people like you. Do you really want people not to adopt a child because of their race? “Honey, let’s not adopt him/her. He looks too ethnic to be a part of our family. What would Mixed Race rich kid in NYC think?”

      • RedMercury

        While I agree with you, the “whining” is more of a concern about fidelity to the story. At what point does “Johnny Storm” stop being the “Johnny Storm” from the comic books?

        There was the recent bit over on Fox News about how “Santa Claus is white!” Yes, Santa Claus is a mythical character. While he’s always been represented as a white man, there’s no reason he can’t be represented as a black man. But suppose you start changing more of the myth? Instead of making toys at the North Pole, he makes them in hidden swamp in Louisiana. He doesn’t come down chimneys, he comes up through the drains. He doesn’t have a sleigh with reindeer, he has a flying 1968 Coupe deVille convertible. At what point does this stop being a story about “Santa Claus” and start being a story about someone else?

        Now, personally, I don’t really think it matters if Johnny Storm is black or white. I don’t see any reason that he couldn’t be black and be the adopted brother of Sue Storm. I don’t think it will have an appreciable effect on the story. But it is troubling for many who would maintain that their fictional heroes look and act a certain way. Consider the many people who were up in arms when Daniel Craig was given the roll of James Bond (“James Bond is NOT BLONDE!”). Or Keanu Reeves as Constantine. Or Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.

        Here’s an entertaining Marvel example: Remember Generation X? They hired a white girl to play Jubilee (Jubilation Lee). Is that okay? After all, it’s just a re-imagining. There’s no good reason that Jubilee can’t be white, right?

        Yet there was an outcry from fans that Jubilee is asian.

      • Raptor Jesus

        Johnny and Sue Storm are brother and sister. I know that because I started reading Fantastic Four comics when I was seven years old. This shit is important to people.

        If it were characters they were making up I wouldn’t care. But don’t rape my childhood, bro!

      • Redjester

        If the problem is the brother-sister thing, if they cast a black Sue Storm would it still piss you off?

      • Tchokes

        Not at all. Can you stop race baiting?

      • Redjester

        Not race baiting, just asking.

        For your information, I’m in agreement with you that Sue Storm should also be black.

    • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

      Calm down white dude
      They are fictional character, race doesn’t matter to who they are
      Any race can be Johnny storm as long as he’s arrogant and has his superpower
      I will be mad if sue storm is white because I fucking hate white couple who adopt black and treat the kid as a fucking bragging right
      If sue storm is white, then she’s adopted into a black family or SHE COULD BE BLACK

      (And yes I wouldn’t be mad if they cast Matt bomer as black panther as long as the back story is believable and the movie is well made )

      • Tchokes

        Well, that is not racist at all, assuming those things.

    • 80sRobot

      If Johnny is going to be African-American, then I would vote Sue be too. It just seems like it would fit better and not be a cop-out.

      HOWEVER — look up pictures of Michael B. Jordan and Kate Mara. I would say that compared together they could plausibly be passed off as blood siblings with the same parents (where one is white and the other black). I say Kate Mara could pass as a character of mixed-race who happens to look more white. It could work if mama and papa Storm make a brief appearance, and the story quickly moves on and doesn’t make a big deal of it.

  • Christian

    Sweet. Maybe they can get two-time Oscar nominee Jonah Hill to be the thing, too. And maybe Anna Farris for Sue Storm. Then we can just be honest about the fact that this project is a joke.

  • Christian

    Sweet. Maybe they can get two-time Oscar nominee Jonah Hill to be the thing, too. And maybe Anna Farris for Sue Storm. Then we can just be honest about the fact that this project is a joke.

  • Jan

    I usually just toss his name in for kicks, but considering how crazy-young Fox’s looking to make this ensemble, how about Justin Bieber as Reed Richards?

    • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

      Hey if Michael Keaton can be batman and Heath ledger can be joker
      Why not bieber as reed Richards ?

  • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

    I swear I will watch this movie if sue storm is black!!!
    An interracial relationship in a superhero film would be better than yet another white romance

    • LEM

      They can kiss and then have a Madea cameo yelling something outrageous.

  • paul h

    I’ll prolly watch it before I start trashing it, but you folks enjoy yourselves…

  • Matt Sallusti

    I think Michael B Jordan is a fine actor, but if you cast him as Johnny you might as well cast African Americans in every other role – I mean would anyone ever make this move for Cyborg, Falcon, Luke cage, etc – political correctness run a muck. Fox and Sony run two great properties into the ground – and I thought the reboot could not get any worse than original

    • Strong Enough

      YES BECAUSE THE HUMAN TORCH IS SO ICONIC!

      geez i never knew they were so much human torch fans out there lmao

      • Matt Sallusti

        I am true to the source material which was the point of my post

      • Strong Enough

        Yes because you are a HUGE Fantastic Four fan and have all the comics and TPB and watched all the movies and such and it would be insane to change the color of a fictional character that doesn’t exist even though his personality will stay the same like nothing ever happened.

        sure

      • Matt Sallusti

        Lets agree to disagree – unless that principle no longer applies. No matter who is cast, I hope this filmis better than the last efforts

      • Strong Enough

        of course. and hiring the charismatic, charming and great actor Michael B Jordan is a step in the right direction

      • LEM

        I agree that he’s a good actor with a big career ahead.

      • Matt Sallusti

        Lets agree to disagree – unless that principle no longer applies. No matter who is cast, I hope this filmis better than the last efforts

      • Strong Enough

        Yes because you are a HUGE Fantastic Four fan and have all the comics and TPB and watched all the movies and such and it would be insane to change the color of a fictional character that doesn’t exist even though his personality will stay the same like nothing ever happened.

        sure

    • Redjester

      Explain to me why because one member of the Fantastic Four is being portrayed as African American (in this iteration) that all of the characters must in turn be? What’s so bad about showcasing a diverse group of superheroes for the next generation? I didn’t hear the uproar over Jessica Alba of Mexican descent playing the originally blonde and white Sue Storm.

      In no way does changing a characters race dramatically change the character itself as they can have the same personality, style,be of the same age, maturity, from the same place, same socio-economic background, etc.

      Try to remember, the Fantastic Four was developed in the very racist and segregated year of 1960. Not really sure why we should continue to promote that sort of thing when the new version will be taking place not in 1960, but in the very diverse present.

      Lastly, I’m also sick of seeing black or mixed-race parents try to explain to their kids why virtually all of the animated characters/actors in children’s films/ superheroes are white. It’s ludicrous, sad, and outdated.

      • Matt Sallusti

        Last thing I read said the film was going to be set in 60s – like last x men. Look they weren’t step-siblings or adopted siblings, they were brother and sister in the comics. All I am asking for is a little loyalty to source material. Chronicle was a very good film. I hope this one is too.

      • LEM

        I hated Alba in those films. How awful were those blue contacts? and in the second one she wore a wig.

  • Davis

    Jack O’ Connell & Margot Robbie are fantastic(no pun intended) i’m surprised they’re not the frontrunners

  • Davis

    Jack O’ Connell & Margot Robbie are fantastic(no pun intended) i’m surprised they’re not the frontrunners

  • LEM

    I want a “Friday” remake with a white cast.

    • Strong Enough

      Dude Where is My Car

      • LEM

        Not even close.

      • Strong Enough

        pretty close.

    • Strong Enough

      Dude Where is My Car

    • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

      There’s no stoner white comedies where nothing happens ?

      • LEM

        Are there no black super heroes?

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Superheroes are symbols so nope race doesn’t matter to them

      • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

        Superheroes are symbols so nope race doesn’t matter to them

      • LEM

        I think you’re confusing superheroes with Prince…I know he wears tights so don’t feel bad that you confused the two.

  • sense11

    Please give this property back to Marvel,

    why are they casting teenage looking actors?

    • George

      Screw Fox.. even if this turns out good, Fox will just run the franchise into the ground anyways. Fantastic Four belongs with Marvel and the MCU, not shoehorned into the X-Men just to build some uninspired Fox universe. I hope this movie gets ignored at the box office, especially considering how crowded 2015 already is.

  • Hudson Faber

    Richard Madden would be a great Reed Richards.

    • The Flobbit

      Far too young.

      • Hudson Faber

        Disagreed. He’s 27 and has a commanding presence, as shown on Game of Thrones. And like Hugh Jackman, he can play the role for more than a decade is he chooses.

      • The Flobbit

        Disagreed. Reed Richards has grey hair and is the mature one of the group. He is at least in his mid 30′s in the comic’s heyday. And Madden’s commanding presence never struck me that much in Game of Thrones. Someone with a commanding presence would be like, Sean Bean or Anthony Hopkins.

        Plus, an actor in his mid-30′s could also play the role for more than a decade. There’s also the issue that he’s British. America’s most beloved superhero team (bar the Avengers) is appearing to be played by… a British dude, a black dude, and an Irish chick.

      • The Flobbit

        Disagreed. Reed Richards has grey hair and is the mature one of the group. He is at least in his mid 30′s in the comic’s heyday. And Madden’s commanding presence never struck me that much in Game of Thrones. Someone with a commanding presence would be like, Sean Bean or Anthony Hopkins.

        Plus, an actor in his mid-30′s could also play the role for more than a decade. There’s also the issue that he’s British. America’s most beloved superhero team (bar the Avengers) is appearing to be played by… a British dude, a black dude, and an Irish chick.

      • FoonZeeS

        Why is his being British an issue?

        The Brits are taking over the film industry. It’s just a fact.

      • The Flobbit

        Yes, but he’s an all-American superhero, and people have already been raising questions with a British Superman and a British ex-Batman.

      • Hudson Faber

        Disagreed. He’s 27 and has a commanding presence, as shown on Game of Thrones. And like Hugh Jackman, he can play the role for more than a decade is he chooses.

    • The Flobbit

      Far too young.

    • Pk

      True that. And margot Robbin is perfect for sue storm

  • Hudson Faber

    Richard Madden for Reed Richards, Michael B. Jordan for Johnny Storm, Alan Ritchson for Ben Grimm, and Allison Williams or Margot Robbie for Sue Storm. Do it, Fox! You’d make me a happy man.

    • The Flobbit

      Nobody really cares about you.

  • The Flobbit

    F-ck yeah for Saoirse Ronan as Sue Storm. Amazing actress, great character.

    • 80sRobot

      I really dig her (cutie and talented and all) and was disappointed she apparently didn’t make the cut for the next Star Wars. But you know, thinking about it some more, maybe it’d be for the best she stay away from these big franchise movies — they haven’t been too beneficial to actresses, with Jennifer Lawrence as the only exception that comes to mind.

      • Redjester

        She’s out of the running for Star Wars?!? Shame… She would have been perfect.

      • Jan

        For what? NONE of the characters have been disclosed, yet.

      • Redjester

        When I first heard of Star Wars 7-? coming to fruition, Saiorse Ronan was one of the ten or so actors I instantly thought of that I thought would absolutely kill it in that world Lucas originally created.

        More specifically, I thought she would be great as one of the two siblings (Leia and Han’s children?) that had been discussed…

      • The Flobbit

        How do you know she didn’t make the Star Wars cut? That is somewhat disappointing; she’s a tremendously versatile, charismatic, and talented young actress who could be just the relatable, spunky, badass heroine these movies need.

      • 80sRobot

        Well this was reported a month or so ago, including here. She was asked about her audition, and she was quoted as saying she didn’t get the role. Her wording could have been ambiguous, but her interview sounded like she was disappointed.

        It appears she auditioned prior to Abrams and Kasdan taking over the screenplay. So maybe they had her in mind for a character in the Michael Arndt screenplay.

        The interesting thing is that she’s the only actor so far who has admitted to auditioning for SW, even describing she was asked to play around with a light saber.

      • joe

        You’re spot on there! The script, allegedly, has been completely rewritten, so old characters are gone and new characters are introduced. Ronan saying she didn’t get the part could still be true if that part is no longer in the script. She may still be in contention for one of the new characters.

    • No more Jabba

      she’s my first choice for F4 or Star Wars too, I hope JJ has a female lead, she rocks

      • 80sRobot

        Sounds like JJ wants to revisit the original trio, with younger characters (one of who Jesse Plemons may be in consideration for) in secondary roles.

      • The Flobbit

        She was my first choice for the Hunger Games, too. I felt she had that edgy, dangerous quality that Katniss had. But heck, Lawrence works too…

  • The Flobbit

    F-ck yeah for Saoirse Ronan as Sue Storm. Amazing actress, great character.

  • Mixed Race rich kid NYC

    Sue storm gotta be black too
    I hate white families using black kids as bragging rights and to elevate their social status

    “Oh! Angelina Jolie adopted a black girl whose sins were that she was born in another country and wit black skin, ohh I want a black baby too ”
    Fuck that bullshit
    I grew up around those snobby white rich couple
    I hate them all

    • Hudson Faber

      Based on your hateful comments, you don’t seem any better than the people you claim to hate. You seem to presume quite a bit.

    • Ridley C.

      Why? Why must you talk?

  • Rashad

    Come on. Why can’t Aaron Paul be considered for Johnny Storm? He’d be perfect!

    • Redjester

      Love me some Aaron Paul, but to me, he’s too short. The comics have always depicted the Fantastic Four to be tall and muscular yet lean.

      • Rashad

        To be fair, that’s how all comic book super heroes are depicted.

      • Redjester

        True. Being tall and lean myself probably makes me a little biased.

      • 80sRobot

        It’s all movie magic and camera angles. He could get lean and work out — dude got slightly chunky toward the end of Breaking Bad’s run.

  • Redjester

    From who they’ve listed, here are my preferences:

    Reed Richards: 1. Miles Teller (fits the part); 2. Richard Madden (Solid actor, but might have trouble with comedy); and 3. Kit Harington (Doesn’t look the part whatsoever). But they are all too young in my opinion.

    Sue Storm: 1. Kate Mara (Liked her on House of Cards and she’s age appropriate); 2. Saiorse Ronan (Absolutely love her as an actress, but Sue Storm should not be the “kid” of the group, Johnny should be.

    Johnny Storm: Michael B. Jordan is actually a fairly ingenius bit of casting, but unless he or his sister will be adopted, shouldn’t his sister Sue be of darker complexion as well?

    • 80sRobot

      Speaking frankly: If Mara is cast as Sue, then it could be believable if the script at least implies that she and Jordan are siblings with the same parents. Both actors could “pass” as being of mixed-heritage. Ronan would be a tougher sell in this respect.

  • Redjester

    Keeping only Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch as I really dig that choice AND I think it’s age appropriate, here are my personal choices for the roles:

    Reed Richards: Tom Welling (36)

    Sue Storm: Zoe Saldana (35)

    Johnny Storm: Michael B. Jordan (26)

    The Thing: Michael C. Hall (42)

  • TigerFIST

    So far this seems like a horrible production…

  • John Rain

    Jessica Alba was Sue Storm and she is not Blonde nor totally WASp.

    • rando

      Nobody said those movies were good either.

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  • Robby Richmond

    Last night Edgar Wright tweeted “Nick Frost for Ben Grimm!” and I chuckled and retweeted it… and now I’ve slept on it, d’ye know what? It’s definitely better than Jack O’Connell being cast, as anyone, ever.

  • LEM

    Shouldn’t the discussion be about the comic companies not creating better black super heroes? There are some cool ones but none that really enter the realm of top tier name recognition outside of comic book fans.

  • Titus

    This is quite confusing for me. If a white guy or girl plays a fictional character that is traditionally black, a scandal unravels, the very gates of Hell open under the feet of those involved. But if a black actor (as great as Michael B. Jordan is, in this case) is casted to play a originally white character nobody is suposed to complain under the threat of being called a bigot or a lame racist.
    I can’t understand the reason behind this clearly unnecesary change over the original material, other than a ludicrous publicity stunt disguised as provocation and a challenge to our society double standards.
    This manipulation makes me feel sad.

  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    Michael B. Jordan will nail the role but I wish it was Aaron Paul who was cast as Johnny Storm. The rest of the cast seems way too young to be taken serious as scientist. It’s like Fox is repeating all of their same mistakes again from the previoius FF films. Jessican Alba as a credible scientist? Please. At least the acting talent is better this go around w their choices.

  • Batt Damon

    I can’t wait for Tyler Perry’s The Fantastic Four

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