George Lucas Talks STAR WARS with Jon Stewart on THE DAILY SHOW

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Last night, George Lucas appeared on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart to promote his new book “George Lucas’ Blockbusting.” However, as would be expected, the focus on the conversation wasn’t on his new book, but immediately centered on the Star Wars franchise. Every single Star Wars fan should check this video out. I’m a huge, HUGE fan of Stewart as both a comedian and as a journalist. He pretty much always speaks his mind and asks the questions that need to be asked. In this case he just goes for it and asks the questions that fans often wonder about when it comes to Lucas, such as-and I’m paraphrasing a bit-how does it feel to piss off a whole generation of fans and do you still believe you’re as creative as you used to be? The latter one I found especially brilliant and ballsy. Granted, he said it in a nicer way, but the implication of “Hey, what the heck happened in the new movies as opposed to the old ones,” was still there.

But even better than Stewart’s questions were Lucas’ answers. Lucas still insists that people love Jar Jar Binks, one of the most repulsively idiotic characters in the history of cinema. Either Lucas’ pride is pretty out of control and he’ll never admit to the awfulness of the new trilogy or he’s a tad delusional. Either one is likely. [Matt's note: It's also likely that Lucas inhabits a world where no one challenges him and only strokes his ego]

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  • Smike

    Or maybe people like me actually LOVE the new Star Wars trilogy – yes, I'm saying it – even MORE than the original fairytale trilogy…Why? More politics, more alien worlds, more fun…and measurable Medichlorians finally turning that fairy tale into real SciFi…not Fantasy in space as the OT used to be!
    Sorry, but Jar Jar ain't half as annoying than those infamous furballs that saved the day on Endor…*hooteenee* anyone?

  • Droncz92

    I like the new Trilogy as well, I just felt Lucas could have done with should I say Less CGI, more puppets, the whole thing felt fake.

    Anyways can someone post some of the highlights of that video, I cannot view it at work.

  • http://twitter.com/dillangandhi Dillan Gandhi

    The journo who wrote this crap is a bit of a twat. People love the new trilogy, that's why it outsells the original movies 2:1 on Amazon, and has a hit TV spin-off currently on the air.

    • Anonymous

      The new star wars movies out sell the older movies on amazon.com because so many people already have the original movies on dvd.

  • Katei

    Well put. I could wish that Jon had been even more confrontational, as he is with some guests whose words or actions have offended him on some level, but if I was completely honest with myself I would have to admit that as much as Episodes I, II and III make me want to kick Lucas in the crotch should I ever find myself face-to-bloated face with him, I have enough residual energy left from IV, V and VI to just grin like an idiot.

  • http://twitter.com/cablebfg Bill Graham

    Yes, because we all know the true measure of how beloved a film 40 years old is, is by how well it sells against its 20 year younger predecessor on Amazon. :|

    The first trilogy is beloved, while the second set are not nearly as endearing. I think much of the hate is aimed at the incredibly bland love-story and the suckfest that was Attack of the Clones.

  • Jordaaan

    Most people don't like the new trilogy. Just because it makes more money doesn't mean its better (see Transformers 2). I'll admit I love the fights scenes in the new trilogy but other than that they kinda suck.

    • Niels_de_bie

      I’m younger, so i wasn’t born when the first 3 came out.. i’vewatched the 6 movies in a row, and i like episode 1,2 and 3 much, MUCH more!

      its simple.. when you guys (the hardcore oldskool star warsfans) saw the episode 4 to 6 you became fans.. and when your a fan of something the new movies, games or whatever are more difficult to compare!

      for example ‘Halo’
      The old skool gamers love halo 1 but don’t like halo 2 or 3
      but when someone only plays halo 3 he may like it but hate the first one..

      it always is like this in almost everything!

      I love episode 1,2 and 3! when you see a lightsaberbattle in episode 4,5 or 6 i think it is crap!

  • Katei

    The politics in the prequels were childish when they made any sense at all. The alien worlds were beautiful … when they weren't marred by the ridiculous placement of an American diner circa 1955. And Star Wars was always meant to be Space Fantasy. Real Sci-Fi was Star Trek's bag.

    Jar Jar “Yes, Massah” binks is about a billion times more annoying than a bunch of space teddy bears living in tree huts, who kicked some serious stormtrooper ass and never once stepped in a pile of dung.

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/12/17/…hantom-m…

    Click and learn, youngling. Click and learn.

  • http://www.buzzabit.com/aaron Aaron Sullivan

    Probably the best interview with George Lucas I've seen because Jon Stewart gives voice to the original fans of Star Wars.

    Though I'm not a great defender of Lucas's later era in his career, I've got to point out to the articles author that he didn't say “people” like Jar Jar Binks, he implied that many kids that grew up on the prequel trilogy love Jar Jar Binks. It's hard not to agree with that one if you have kids.

    I always contend that if Jar Jar Binks was actually trying not to be clumsy but couldn't help himself, there would have been some tension and potential for actual humor. For instance, Disney's Goofy is often funny because he is trying SO hard to do the task at hand in those how-to shorts and we are just waiting for the disaster. Jar Jar just acts goofy and irresponsibly and never seems to care how he is ruing the lives of those around him. Not funny or even interesting.

  • Dogg

    Yeah George, keep telling yourself that people just outgrew the sequels. Nothing to do with the fact that they SUCKED.

    He was already ruining the franchise halfway through Jedi with all that Ewok BS. That brings the the grand total of “good” Star Wars movies directed by Lucas to exactly ONE.

  • Katei

    LOL! Indeed. Methinks people who measure a movie's worth by its Amazon sales and spin-off shows is more than a bit of a twat.

  • Katei

    To be fair, when we all sat down to watch the Star Wars Holiday Special in 1978 we should have seen the crapfest coming.

  • brian

    the clone wars show is so much better than the prequels that i can't even watch them anymore. total garbage.

  • Chip

    tbf, the only Star Wars films I truly enjoy are ROTS, ANH, and most of all, TESB. For the most part, however, I can't stand the prequel trilogy, and even ROTS had some awful moments now that I think about it (the bad acting stands out more than in the older SW movies). I do *like* ROTJ, but the Ewoks really made the film boring for me, other than the fact that it rehashed the whole Death Star plot of the original film.

  • DrBathroomMD

    Like people below me are saying…the general public enjoyed the newer films just fine. Arghhhh I hate it when “professionals” on top movie sites say such gems as, “Either Lucas’ pride is pretty out of control and he’ll never admit to the awfulness of the new trilogy or he’s a tad delusional. Either one is likely.” is just proof of the outright ignorance and idiocy going on this author's brain. Say whatever you want, even your opinion, and say it as fact.

    revenge of the Sith was the most critically praised Star Wars movie upon release…yes the original Star Wars didn't get AS many good reviews when it came out as Sith, and your precious Empire got mixed reviews upon release, some critics calling it, “boring” and with “no plot”. Of course, we know that those three movies were amazing(and Jedi is my favorite and think the older films are overall better) but they complained about the SAME THINGS(stiff acting, dialogue etc) as they do the new ones. Nostalgia can be powerful can it? Weren't you guys kids when you saw those movies, and were adults when you saw the newer ones? The kids LOVE the shit out of the newer ones. get our facts straight.

  • DrBathroomMD

    “Most people don't like the new trilogy.”

    FALSE

    • Anonymous

      To clarify…. You think that there are more people that liked the prequals then people who disliked them?

  • Jordaaan

    I take it you don't have many star wars buddies.

  • Do it.

    George Lucas is the Al Davis of film.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GHB4QO3563AXBMU6XIZH3C3P24 Aquariasm

    Although I am no padawan to the ways of the Force, I will spare readers my fan-boy complaints about minutiae in story consistency by a Master Storyteller (whose success I can, as of yet, only dream of). I offer only the following consideration, Master Lucas. Sir, though I duly bow in awe and respect to the action and adventure in which you painted the imaginative windows of my childhood, the evident disdain and deliberate flippancy in your offhanded remarks that the world and characters you created are simply works of fiction/not real made me feel in that moment as if millions of voices in a galaxy far, far away suddenly cried out in terror… and were silenced as their Creator wantonly denied their existence for a paltry laugh. Did you forget, Sir, that your Galaxy of Far, Far Away is held together not by some-until recently-undefined and elusive Force but by the adoration, love and imagination of legions of faithful watchers like me? I know Star Wars is a make-believe story and respect your poetic license thereto; however, the spirit of imagination is deceivingly fragile and must be handled as so. Thus I request the same future respect to my suspension of disbelief that I-among thousands of fans-dutifully offer in ticket admissions, merchandise tariffs, video game fare and imaginative real estate to your fortunate estate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/theoldronin Matthew Felts

    I watched this last night and I think his answers were down to earth and clear. Two different sets of movies for two different generations and guess what…they are FICTION! I love star wars. I enjoy the original Trilogy more than I do the new, but all six are very entertaining to me and I am a fan of them all. In the end, they are just movies and are meant for entertainment. Sure Lucas is a money whore, but he's still putting out very entertaining material. Everyone that bitches and moans about Star Wars and Indiana Jones need to relax a little.

  • drbathroommd is dumb

    the original star got nominated for best picture, u are dumb

  • JaySin420

    I think biggest problem with the prequels was the simple fact that everyone who saw the originals knew what was going to happen.

  • love_4_rent

    My nine-year-old son really enjoys the Clone Wars Cartoon Network series, as I am sure a lot of his generation do. I’ve watched a number of episodes with him, and I find it to be entertaining. I may be an old-school Star Wars fan, but that doesn’t mean I can’t be open minded enough to enjoy what comes next. The same goes for Star Trek. My favorite will always be TOS, especially the remastered versions. But I really enjoyed the 2009 Trek too. I’m glad that I’m able to like and appreciate both.

  • DrBathroomMD

    No shit, and six other academy awards, but what's your point? Films with lesser critical success have gotten nominated for Best Picture(The Reader anyone? And i still say it should've won over Annie Hall…bullcrap. Anyway, all I'm saying is that general audiences liked all the Star Wars movies just fine…some more than others(I'd say among audiences, not critics, that Star Wars, Empire and Sith were best recieved).

  • Fan

    I disagree with Lucas' assertion that star wars is lumped into generations. It's not. I was born well after the original trilogy, and didn't watch them till I was an adult – not long before I watched the prequels. The characters in the prequels are uninteresting, even unlikeable. The villains are cardboard cut-outs. Some of the scripted lines are so corny it's physically painful to hear them being spoken. I can only conclude that people who like the prequels place a much higher value on special effects than on storytelling, and would rather have a flashy fight scene than depth and emotional power.

    • Will8889

      Exactly! I never saw the Star Wars till the “Special Editions” came out in theaters. I was an adult then, not a young child. Then two years later I saw Episode I, and I saw a clear difference in the original trilogy and Episode I–and then the later two. The original trilogy is definitely better as far as plot, character development and story cohesion go. Harrison Ford is a good actor, Alec Guinness is amazing and that James Earl Jones voice, I mean amazing! Mark and Carrie weren’t too bad. On the contrary the only good acting in the prequels is Liam Neeson. But you know supposedly the original trilogy would have been very slow and boring if not for the editing. I’m rambling a bit, but my point is it’s hard to know why a film is good or bad or certain people enjoy it. I don’t blame Lucas for intentionally making bad movies for the prequels, but I certainly don’t prefer this trilogy.

    • Will8889

      Exactly! I never saw the Star Wars till the “Special Editions” came out in theaters. I was an adult then, not a young child. Then two years later I saw Episode I, and I saw a clear difference in the original trilogy and Episode I–and then the later two. The original trilogy is definitely better as far as plot, character development and story cohesion go. Harrison Ford is a good actor, Alec Guinness is amazing and that James Earl Jones voice, I mean amazing! Mark and Carrie weren’t too bad. On the contrary the only good acting in the prequels is Liam Neeson. But you know supposedly the original trilogy would have been very slow and boring if not for the editing. I’m rambling a bit, but my point is it’s hard to know why a film is good or bad or certain people enjoy it. I don’t blame Lucas for intentionally making bad movies for the prequels, but I certainly don’t prefer this trilogy.

  • Guest

    Since you like star wars as science fiction, let's judge the prequels on that basis. How do medichlorians grant force powers to their host? What mechanism of the force keeps the Jedi from discerning the presence of the Sith right under their noses, and what mechanism keeps the Sith from discerning the presence of Anakin's children? Given that Anakin was born on Tatooine and knew Owen personally, why does it make sense for Obi Wan to hide his son from him by taking him to this planet and hiding him with Owen? The irony is, fans of the original trilogy usually attack the prequels for being shallow, racially offensive, and/or making no sense.

    As science fiction, Star Wars fails. Epically. It has no science. It would be a mistake to qualify it as “more believable” because of the inclusion of medichlorians and snooze-inducing political debates. Did I mention how very unimaginative many of the names are? Careless. Medical Chlorine, anyone?

  • Fan

    Are you trying to tell me you didn't laugh out loud when “Vader” does his big “Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!” at the end? I know I did.

  • Fan

    It's worse than that. Everyone who saw the originals had *already envisioned a way in which the prequels could happen*. And in the vast majority of cases, the imagined versions were better than what lucas came up with.

  • DrBathroomMD

    Ya that was pretty silly, and that scene on the balcony was pretty awful, but everything else was either adaquate or awesome.

  • Ry

    I think it's a little immature to also categorize the star wars movies into trilogies. All the Star Wars films have certain flaws, and yes most of the fall in the prequels. I would say however that Revenge of the Sith is better than the likes of Return of the Jedi. Simply put this would be my personal order:

    1 – Empire Strikes Back
    2 – Revenge of the Sith
    3 – New Hope
    4 – Return of the Jedi
    5 – Attack of the Clones
    6 – Phantom Menace

  • DrBathroomMD

    That's ridiculous. Sure, the visual effects were more epic in scale sometimes(although the Death Star has my vote for most epic and hugely powerful thing in the whole saga), but I enjoyed the prequels BECAUSE of the story. Sure the acting isn't great(it never has been) but it's proper for what type of movies they are(yes some of the dialogue was terrible-the fireplace scene in Clones comes to mind), burt the storytelling is masterful. Lucas wove the most amazing story through the six films. It's every epic story ever told, in a fictional galaxy with amazing locations and breathtaking visuals. It's pretty much IMO, the best sci-fi fantasy film series there is, and in time, will go down as a grand story for modern times(along with The Lord of the Rings and others).

  • max

    most people arent star wars buddies

    i would say i enjoy the original trilogy more, but i still liked the new trilogy just fine. I thought the interview was great.

  • iFiction

    Personally, I think George Lucas is right. A big part of the reason so many people love the original trilogy so much more than the prequels is because they were kids when they saw it and they look at it through the lens of nostalgia. I was very young when I saw The Phantom Menace and I absolutely loved it. It was my favorite film at the time. My tastes have changed, deepened, and now none of the Star Wars movies would make my top ten, or even my top twenty list, but I still enjoy the original trilogy and the prequels immensely. As someone who grew up on the prequels, I don't necessarily give preference to the original trilogy. I think they're about the same quality of storytelling; fantastic and imaginative classical pulp fantasy with a healthy dose of politics, mythology, and spirituality thrown in the mix.

    So yeah, George Lucas is right, people my age (I'm 20 now) don't tend to have much of a problem with the prequels because we don't see the original trilogy through rose-colored classes. I will concede that the original trilogy was more revolutionary for the film medium than were the prequels, but I think the prequels were fairly evolutionary in their own right, as is this new series, The Clone Wars. And I think Jar Jar Binks is pretty hilarious.

    • Anonymous

      Can you please tell us what you liked and disliked about the first triliogy (4-6) and what you liked and disliked about the second trilogy (1-3). I would your unbiased opinion so I will not mention my opinions.

  • iFiction

    Why don't we test George Lucas' assertion? Of the people who liked the Star Wars prequels, or at least thought they were decent films, how many of you were younger than 18 when you first saw them? How many of you were older? Of the people who detest the prequels, how many of you saw the original trilogy in theaters, or within a few years after their release? How many did not?

    • Fan

      That’s a good idea. I was 17 when I saw “The Phantom Menace”. I enjoyed the fight scenes. I was appalled by everything else. The next two were, in my opinion, even worse. I dutifully watched all three in the cinemas. Exactly once each, with fervent hope that was soon squashed.

      I watched the original trilogy on television during the early 90s, interspersed with siblings screaming and ad-breaks. I loved them, and still do.

      • Anonymous

        So you did watch the originals at a younger age than the newer ones? What the question should be is: Did the people who watched the newer episodes before they watched the originals, enjoy the newer episodes? I would bet the answer is … yes! Just look at how many people paid money to see the 3 latest ones. Someone besides a bunch of people dressed as their favorite Star Wars character went to see these movies. And I don’t think people kept going back because they all enjoy watching bad movies.

        I don’t think they were as good as the originals but I still enjoyed them. Jesus!

        One final thought: Lucas OWES you nothing but a film he chooses to make. Get out of the basement!

  • zach

    if you think the original trilogy is good at all, describe the characters of quigon, obi wan, amidala without using the words jedi or queen respectively. you'll find that you cant. there is no character development, very little if any plot, and none of the characters statements or actions make any sense at all. The prequel movies exist purely to try and set up the original three. But they dont do that very well, much less stand on their own. The prequel trilogy is just crap.

  • Internet Nerds are Idiots

    Qui-Gonn Jinn – Calm, collected Zen-master with a subtle rebellious streak to follow his instincts (and his heart) rather than tow the Jedi party line. Always seems like he has a hidden agenda of his own.

    Obi-Wan – Cheeky, swashbuckler who goes from jealous to stern father before evolving into caring brotherly type, who only takes matters seriously when they actually become serious.

    Padme Amidala – Stern, regal, professional, space virgin with romantic ideals that often tip over the melodramatic.

  • Robert Kelly

    Here. Here. This is the most thoughtful comment posted.

    Lucas's problem is larger than the flawed story connections between the old and new trilogies. It is that he doesn't care that fans want that consistency. Good storytelling requires it. Bizarre, inexplicable events can't just happen. So Lucas' refusal to countenance the criticisms and try to fill-in holes is simply authorial laziness. Worse, that he covers this by a blithe, dismissive response – 'people can make whatever they like of it' – indicates authorial abdication of his own creation. What poor form. God authors don't do this. Rowlings and Tolkien/Jackson did no such thing with their beloved sagas. And that Star Trek seems so wildly inconsistent (through time-travel gimmickry) is why it suffers so much.

    Finally, it must be said that Lucas enjoys huge wealth and adulation because of this very creation he now dismisses as mere 'entertainment.' Of course, it is entertainment, but it is also art. Good art is also entertaining, and Lucas surely doesn't mean to demean his work as just SciFi network Saturday silliness. How rude he is to fans who like his work and demand basic storytelling coherence. I suppose he can throw in the towel, but to make me feel nerdy or inspid for demanding coherence, at the same time that I buy one disc after another is impolitic.

  • http://twitter.com/JuanMcGuirk Juan McGuirk

    I've disavowed any knowledge of medichlorians. The prequels are good, just a different good. As in most forms of media these days, the digital technology gave them a whole different “flavor”. And even though my 2 year old watches the prequels, it's the original trilogy that holds his attention. And BTW Jar Jar was supposed to be annoying to show Qui-Gon's compassion for all life forms, even “pathetic” ones.

  • T man

    Your comments are pretty thoughtful and you seem to take “art” seriously. But to put it in perspective, I want you to imagine being Mr. Lucas as a film school student a few decades ago. He has been thinking about Star Wars everyday since then. There is an entire universe inside his head, which he has toiled to bring to life. There are people who are dedicated to Star Wars in an obsessive way, but most people can (and have to) walk away from the fantasy at some point to live their “real” lives. Mr. Lucas has no such option. That world is swimming inside his mind 24/7 and has been for several decades. Try to imagine knowing everything he does and thinking about it basically nonstop during production (for years). From the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to sleep. Though there are some die-hard fans out there, I'm betting most people would agree this lifestyle would be torture after the 2nd or 3rd year. Such is the burden of the artist. If Mr. Lucas's comments seem disrespectful, it's just because he's had to develop a sort of philosophy in order to escape the trilogy and criticism that he has received about it. If you spent a decade of your life working on three movies nonstop, you would be pretty devastated by every single bit of criticism people casually hurled at your baby after merely sitting down and “receiving” it for 2 hours in a theater. And this has been going on for more than a generation. Mr. Lucas has an ENORMOUS amount of perspective as an artist.

  • Katei

    LMAO! If George Lucas had spent as much time as you credit him with toiling over the details of the universe he created, I shiould think the more recent finished products would have more continuity with the old and FAR less suckage.

    The link I posted yesterday contains a telling clip of a much younger George Lucas being interviewed and standing firm on the principle that special effects, no matter how realistic and awesome looking (of course I'm paraphrasing) should not be what carries the story.

    What a pity he forgot his own advice when he was rich, powerful and lazy.

  • bllmsepty

    “Just because it makes more money doesn't mean its better”

    … True (see BOTH transformers)

  • T man

    This comment doesn't make much sense. If anything, the prequels are more plot-heavy than the originals. Just using your own reasoning, that these movies “exist purely to try and set up the original three,” makes it necessary for a great deal to HAPPEN (that would be the plot part) if the original three are to make any sense. As for your statement about a lack of character development… heh. I think what a lot of people don't realize about the prequel trilogy is that it's not the character development that is lacking; they just don't like the characters and the way they've been portrayed. I say “Jar Jar Binks,” and INSTANTLY a swarm of horrific feelings take hold of you. That's because you know all too well who Jar Jar is, and you hate his freakin' guts. The guy below me also does a good job of characterizing the people you asked about. And finally, that these movies don't have a point except to set up the original trilogy… I wouldn't agree. I think there is something profound in the question that has haunted Star Wars fans since the first time A New Hope hit the screen: Why did Anakin Skywalker, the best jedi evers, go bad? The prequels try to explain that in a fairly complicated and subtle way that actually echoes Milton's Paradise Lost and reflects on our own culture. The pat, SparkNote answer is that Anakin goes to the dark side because of “love” or to save Padme's life. But there is something more insidious at work here that Lucas wants us to note, which is that Anakin has been lavished with adulation and attention for the majority of his life. He's been told he is special. And that builds up a sense of entitlement and a lust for power. Eventually, he believes that he can overcome nature itself. That's a pretty deep message aimed at a new generation of kids and one I think is worth sharing, even at the sacrifice of some questionable acting.

  • T man

    I more or less agree with your comment that the prequel trilogies have suffered because of the tendency of gratuitous special effects to distance the audience from story/characters (among other problems. My comment was meant to posit why Mr. Lucas has developed these “defense mechanisms” against his loyal fans. Constantly trying to satisfy people can drive you crazy and take all the fun out of it.

    • FOREAL

      seriously you guys need to get a life ……. this is a film thats all ….. its not real if only out this much attention to planet earth and reall issues at hand the wrold would be a better place …. !!!! WAKE UP POEPLE !!!!!!

      • Anonymous

        Football is just a sport…….
        Basketball is just sport…….

        Justin Bieber is just a person…..

        Star wars is just a movie…..

        By your logic everyone needs to get a life. Or maybe this is the life we all lead and your in denial.

  • Rube

    The best way to suspend a person's disbelief in a scifi or fantasy movie like Star Wars is to have great actors portraying great characters. That's why the originals are great movies. The actors pull off the 3 dimensional characters with ease. The originals were horribly miscast. Apart from maybe McGreggor and Neeson, no one else fit in their rolls and it caused the entire three movies to feel flat. The CGI could have worked if the characters didn't seem equally artificial.

  • Rube

    Haha, rolls. I meant roles, of course.

  • David

    New Trilogy was sh*t. If you like it you are an as*hole

  • jeff

    Just wanted to say that the sand on tatooine is rough and course.

    • Mapp

      The best looking scene in the new trilogy is the last scene of the last movie when Yoda is on the ship. That is because no crappy CGI was used and they wanted to bridge the films look wise. The films just look like a video game and the story sucked all along.

  • Chris

    Jar Jar Binks isn’t quite as hated as people make him out to be. Most kids I know love him. And the new trilogy is also a lot better than the original fanbase gives it credit for. As good? The first two episodes no, but the third one was, and even the first two were quite entertaining. Learn to take the stick out of your cheeks next time you watch them.

    • Katei

      Hee hee! I love how people defending the prequels assume anyone who doesn’t like them is uptight. It couldn’t be that those who disagree have more sense and better taste. Of course not.

      • Duder NME

        Since there is no accounting for taste, your point is completely moot.

      • Katei

        Just better sense, then. I’m fine with that.

      • Duder NME

        But you can account for that… how? Just saying it doesn’t make it so, and neither all the subjective conjecture in the galaxy.

      • Katei

        How? Perhaps because I can pop into any one of these New STAR WARS vs. Old STAR WARS nerdbone internet arguments and find clear examples and well thought out, intelligently (albeit often comedically) presented explanations of where the prequels fall short of being quality films on any level other than visually, whereas those who disagree have nothing but variations of; “They look awesome and cool. You must be old and uptight,” to offer.

        I am more than willing to admit that when it comes to visual effects, Lucas is still the master. (Granted; I have yet to see “Avatar”.) And the prequels are definitely prettier than the original trilogy.

        It’s just the dialogue, plot and directing that suck utterly. ;)

      • Duder NME

        Though I could never speak for (or like) those who resort to such pithy soundbites, it’s not like the opposition doesn’t lower itself to the same level.

        Nearly all of the “intelligent” criticisms span from either a subjective point of view (which as we all know, shapes what truths we cling to) or are so completely baseless as to have no bearing on the Saga at all. They’re written in such ways as to place a revisionist bearing, it makes Lucas seem like a museum curator in comparison, which is why most of those points are stated comedically (otherwise they come across as lunatics).

        For example, this particular article’s author tries to justify Lucas’s mention of generations, and their penchants for particular stories, and twists it to include the very sort of fanbase that views this site. It’s sensationalist and lacks the humor of a typical opposer, so to these eyes he comes across as a loon. But then, that’s my little truth and I’m clinging to it.

        Lastly, I’m willing to bet dactaries over credits that if you believe the prequels to pose horrible dialogue, plot, and directing, you have yet to witness the Star Wars Holiday Special. And yes, in order to gain a sense of perspective on what is truly horrible as opposed to what is merely disappointing to one’s self, viewing something that abominable is not only eye-opening, but necessary.

      • Katei

        I’m in. How many dactaries are we talking here? Please answer before you read any of my previous posts ITT. ;)

      • Katei

        Okay, you deserve far more substance after your last post than that.

        My personal belief is that Lucas is a hack with a talent for special effects. An idiot savant, if you will. The Holiday Special shows us this, and hardcore fans who have read any of the original screenplay for A New Hope are aware, if not willing to admit, how bad that movie could have been. But when Lucas was young and fighting the system, he was willing to accept 2 things I don’t believe he is willing to accept any longer: constructive criticism and creative input.

        Between the first 3 movies and the most recent 3, that makes all the difference in my opinion.

      • Duder NME

        Ah ha, but you fell for a common misconception. Lucas had no bearing on the Holiday Special, because at the time the rights to A New Hope still belonged to Fox (remember that it was the only film in the Saga not funded by Lucas), so they had carte blanche to do what they would with it. And they did it in hard. In any interviews mentioning it to him, Lucas noted that he wants every single copy of it destroyed.

        Now I’m assuming that the original screenplay you refer to regarding New Hope concerned the story treatment, the one noting the Dai Bendu Order and such (it’s been a while since I’d read it). Yes, at a cursory glance, it is a jumbled mess, but treatments are rarely fifth drafts of a completed story. And I personally cannot fathom that Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz were solely responsible for breathing ghost-written life into the tale, especially considering that they’re the authors of the Howard the Duck movie.

        As for what Lucas is willing to accept regarding his own creations, I still believe that the artist should be the foremost bearer of such a burden. Back in the days when he made THX and Amercian Graffiti, he fought the system because he wanted complete control over his works, which the studios robbed him of time and again. It’s doubtful that he saw any of their criticism as constructive or creative. If he feels that way about a certain fanbase, perhaps his reasons are founded. The scant amount of detailed advice I’ve heard from so-called fans, regarding the prequels, are simply variations of how to remake The Empire Strikes Back again and again, and not just in tone, but the actual movie.

        He may have broken hearts, but the hatred is certainly not universal, and you have to admit that he did it his way (to quote a certain crooner). Not many successful filmmakers can pull that off.

      • Katei

        My apologies to you and George Lucas. I had always just assumed that he had at least some part of the writing if not directing of the holiday special, and his desire to have every copy destroyed was a result of personal embarassment. Very few other times in my life have I been so happy to be wrong.

        Certainly I do not lay all responsibility for my finding A New Hope to be a decent film at the feet of Huyck and Katz, and the general idea for the film(s) still belong pretty much exclusively to George himself. If I did not still hold some level of admiration for the man, I would never have bothered to watch the interview posted here in the first place.

        “You can type this shit, George, but you sure can’t say it.” – Harrison Ford.

        Granted, the only specific example I can cite, but in various “making of” footage, even Lucas himself is willing to admit that he got pushback from cast and crew alike.

        I wonder how much better the prequels would have seemed to me if the actors had questioned their painfully cliched dialogue, assuming that they didn’t have criticisms that were rejected by Lucas himself.

        As for his struggle against The Man when starting out, I feel it is a weak argument for you to make at this point in his career when he IS The Man. Especially when you seem to be using it to justify his opinions of certain fans. Granted, fanboys calling for his head are a bit much, but I am of the strong opinion that you really shouldn’t verbally shit on the people that put you where you are. Because Lucas doesn’t say things like; “Well you can’t please everyone,” as J.K. Rowling has in the face of criticism for the end of her Potter book run. Lucas says things more along the lines of; “Fuck ‘em if they don’t like it.” Of course, now that those losers living in their mothers’ basements have coughed up enough cash to fuel the Lucas empire indefinitely, he can certainly do so from a position of safety if not decency.

        Perhaps part of our inability to reach an accord is due to the fact that the prequel criticisms I have come across are not just fannish descriptions of how “they” would have done it as yours have been.

        No, of course I don’t think everyone hates the new STAR WARS movies. I just WISH they all did. Heh. But seriously, while the final products would have no doubt been a disappointment to many who had built up years if not decades of anticipation no matter how well they turned out in general, I still maintain that a large number of the prequel criticisms seem more common sense than personal perspective.

      • Fan

        If the prequels had made no pretension to being star wars films, I’d have watched them and enjoyed them, and forgotten them the next day. The irritating aspect of them is that they fail to be what they claim to be. They fail to provide a convincing motivation for Anakin’s fall, settling for something any two-bit writer could have ripped from a dictionary of cliche. They fail, most of the time, to even make sense. There are so many obvious contradictions, not subtle and geeky things, but glaring omissions of logic… the most prominent being Obi-Wan choosing to hide Luke from Anakin on the planet of Anakin’s birth, with people Anakin knew. It couldn’t make less sense if you tried. It’s arrogant and appallingly shoddy.

        But most of all, they fail to make us like them. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘the vast majority of his fans’. I don’t buy the argument that Lucas wanted to appeal to a younger generation. For one thing, I *am* the younger generation. For another, why write sequels at all if not for your existing fans? It was either a cynical exercise in cashing in on the original movies, or a legitimate attempt to wow his fans again. The one deserves revulsion, the other pity.

      • Katei

        Agreed, and here is my theory behind it; when George Lucas was young and essentially a nobody with a couple good movies in the can, he came up with a great idea called STAR WARS. No one, least of all Lucas himself, knew the phenomenon that the movie would become. Moviegoers and critics so loved the film that in interviews, articles, etc. they started gushing to Lucas about Joseph Campbell, the epic hero’s journey, blah, blah, blah. My belief is that Lucas PRETENDED that that had been his intention all along, but it was just a happy accident.

        So now he is stuck; a goofy guy with some great ideas who is far more full of himself than maybe he has a right to be. But now that everyone is talking about STAR WARS mythology, he has to give them what they want. So the prequels are filled with empty symbolism and places we grew to love in the original movies BECAUSE of the cohesive story surrounding them are now given high significance IN SPITE of the fact that they make no sense to the freaking story.

        Here’s a less prominent contradiction that always gets an eyeroll out of me at least:

        In Return of the Jedi, Luke reveals to Leia that they are brother and sister. Luke says; “Leia, do you remember your mother? Your REAL mother?” To which she replies; “Just a little bit. She dies when I was very young.”

        And now we have the back story: That she actually died IMMEDIATELY after giving birth to the twins, and from a BROKEN HEART.

        Do the prequels get more retarded than that? Of course. But the other examples would take longer to type out. ;)

      • Duder NME

        Lucas actually did read about Campbell’s theories because he studied anthropology at USC. This was even covered in his unauthorized biography, “Skywalking”.

        Apparently, Padme didn’t die immediately enough to keep Leia from forming an impression of her through the Force. Too bad for Luke that he had no such connection.

      • Duder NME

        I heavily doubt any two-bit writer could create a theme of the dangers of empowered possessiveness and attribute it to both mother and wife, and then create a bittersweet ending to top it off. Unless Danielle Steele has somehow learned to write, then you’ve got me.

        Also, why would Darth Vader want to go back to Tatooine? Even when the Devastator was in orbit above it, he sent others to retireve the Death Star data. Tatooine, an Outer Rim world away from the heart of the Empire, was too painful for him to revisit and thus the perfect place to hide Luke and Obi-Wan. Plus, Anakin wasn’t born there. That information is still unknown (and will likely remain that way).

        Simply because you are part of the yonger generation, should that imply that you speak for the entire generation? And why should Lucas have to create solely for the older fans when newer ones could be invited to the experience, especially when the older fans are far too cynical to reach? I think that the “majority of fans” you speak of are merely that of the standard vocal minority – loud enough to speak on everyone’s behalf, even when it’s not their place to do so and is fraught with entitlement.

      • Duder NME

        There’s no denying that Lucas has noted his detestation of the process of writing, but the fact is that he wanted to finish the Saga himself (with a bit of help from John Hale), and has written more than a fair share within the Rebellion trilogy. The criticisms against his writing regard cetain specifics, and nothing in general, but having him shepherd the Saga to completion was his perogative as an artist. He created Star Wars because he couldn’t get the rights to do Flash Gordon from Universal, so it makes too much sense that not only would he fall more in love with his universe more than Gordon’s, but that he’d want to have as much fun with it as possible.

        Regarding his status as “The Man”, Lucas notes the irony of this in the Empire of Dreams documentary, but does it preclude that he should give up control of his creation whenever things don’t go someone else’s way, especially when he’s confident of his work? Many fanboys would argue that it’s exactly the case, and then throw around names of filmmakers who have yet to disappoint them. The problem is that it’s in a fanboy’s nature to be disappointed, simply because he declares such unrealistic standards without any sympathy for the artist. If Lucas had relented, would those in control have an automatically better understanding of the Saga simply because a fanboy said so?

        As for Lucas allegely saying “Fuck you fanboys”, that seems far more a thing Rick McCallum would say. Have you seen the Episode I: The Beginning documentary? The guy curses up a storm (editied for content, but still…)! I highly doubt Lucas ever implied any hatred toward his fans, simply that he knew the prequels would be so different in tone as to alienate some within the fanbase (I believe it was the Spring 1999 issue of Premiere magazine where he states this). He knew what was coming, but did it anyway because he wanted to finish the Saga his way, which is why I think he can take all the criticism in stride.

        The common sense you’ve attributed to those criticisms, to me, all seem to be constructed from heresay (“Boba Fett is Jaster Mareel”), conjecture (“Leia didn’t know her mom in five seconds of birth”), ill-fitting expectation (“prequels needed a Han Solo type”), misinformation (“midiclorians are the Force”), false assumptions (“Uncle Owen should recognize Threepio from the get go”), and armchair preferences (“the dialogue was dumb” or “Lawrence ‘Dreamcatcher’ Kasdan should have written this”), all of which amount to nothing more than the almighty rule of expectation, a fallacy which no artist could (or would) match. All I can do now is simply love the Saga and leave the naysayers to their whims of inaccuracy.

        But there’s one thing I simply cannot understand about the supposed fanbase: why is it that someone can call himself Star Wars fan, yet all he does, every time it’s mentioned in any article, is whine about what’s supposed to be wrong with it? Why does a fan need to hate the very thing he proports to love? Is he pathologically fearful of letting go of the things he (used to) love (a lesson in the prequels, I may add)? In that sense, perhaps Lucas is an enabler, but then if Lucas didn’t bring that out of fanboys, they’d get it from someone or something else anyway. Star Wars is just an easy target.

        PS: I’m starting to think that Stewart was mocking fanboys with his histrionic tirade. =)

      • Katei

        Well I can only speak for myself and I’ll keep it very simple. I am easily pleased. Stubborn and opinionated, perhaps, but standup comedians love when I sit in the front, because I even laugh at the bad jokes. A little goes a long way with me, and I am not in the habit of tossing out the SAT words in person or online to show how much I know about various sci-fi & fantasy movies and how I could have done them better. In fact, it is a fanboy tendency that I find insufferably lame. Perhaps that is because I have boobs. But the STAR WARS prequels seem pretty blatantly to me to be “phoned in,” and deserving of criticism, even the juvenille comments.

        How you could truly think the issue of Leia claiming she knew her mother somewhat when the prequels clearly show that to be impossible could be conjecture is baffling to me, but I’m with you on Stewart. ;)

      • Duder NME

        Leia possibly knew her mother through a connection in the Force. Remember the line “images, really… feelings.” Luke didn’t have that connection at all.

      • Anonymous

        Has anyone ever thought that perhaps Leia believed Bail’s wife to be her real mother?????
        Is that so hard to come up with???
        Concerning hiding Anakin on Tatooine, why would Vader be looking for him, since he didn’t even know that Padme had given birth before she died????

        I became a fan when the Special Editions were released, and love all the movies. Although I want the original trilogy to get an overhaul-visual effects wise. The digital Yoda from ROTS, Jabba the Hutt, all those fake looking puppets in ANH and ROTJ, and many other shots.

        I am so sick and tired of this baseless criticism towards the prequels. The story of the prequels is actually more complex than the original trilogy, and the movies are infinitely better than this LOTR crap, Spiderman garbage, and Avatar, or should I say Pocahontas nonsense. This is a perfect example of what’s wrong with today’s people: They adore a movie that has copied the plot of Dances with wolves, Pocahontas and the like, and the only thing that it has to offer is eye candy, yet people are more than happy!? WTF? The Star Wars films to me are some of the only movies that have great characters, a meaningful story and awesome visuals, with the best scores, art design, costume design et cetera….., but people bash them for being the worst movies ever!!!
        You guys should get your freaking heads examined NOW, and take a more objective look at these masterpieces. The acting is supposed to be like this, if you don’t like it, go watch some bloody Harry Potter and shut the hell up!

      • Katei

        Oh, and when I said that Lucas was essentially saying “F you” to his fans I was, of course, using stronger language to emphasize my point, as well as because I am quite fond of swearing. I am pretty sure he has never actually uttered those words, but with the belligerence he gives off when confronted with prequel criticizm, he may as well be. A belligerence that I would consider justified if I felt he had made even half an attempt to give the fans a new product worthy of standing next to his previous one.

      • T Man

        “…if I felt he had made even half an attempt to give the fans a new product worthy of standing next to his previous one.” sigh sigh sigh. I’m in pretty good accord with your criticism of the prequels Katei, but that previous statement just goes too far. Film-making is a monumental endeavor. I may not be able to watch the prequels without wincing but I’m sure as hell glad they exist merely for the handful (if only that) of beautiful, genuinely-inspired moments in them. I’m not saying the prequels are a paragon of the film-making craft — far from it. I’m just saying that it’s not like Lucas farted them out off his ass. It takes a lot of intelligence and imagination to pull off some of things he did. To name a few:
        1. Darth Maul – who cares if you don’t know anything about him? you don’t need to. he’s an icon of fear. remember the chills you got the first time you saw him light up that double saber in the teaser trailer (for A Bug’s Life or Meet Joe Black)?
        2. Padme and Anakin Enter the Arena in Episode II – The framing of that shot as the chariot pulls them into the arena, coupled with John Williams AMAZING score made that moment beautiful. It didn’t matter if a few scenes earlier Portman and Christensen were spitting out shit dialogue, because with that shot Lucas’ visual representation of their love and fate was crystal clear. Remember the shape of the alcove through which they entered into the arena as they kissed? Didn’t it seem like even if they died minutes later, they were being married in that moment?
        3. Obi-wan and Anakin in Episode III – “Why are you asking this of me?” “The council is asking you.” Great moment. Or when Obi-wan says “farewell” to Anakin as he goes to Utapau. Notice Obi-wan standing in broad daylight, and Anakin shrouded in shadow. It’s truly the last time Obi-wan will see the Anakin he knows. And the last half-hour is full of brilliant moments (and bad ones too).

        I guess my point is, I think it’s perfectly fine to criticize. There’s plenty of material to attack. But Lucas did put in more than “half an attempt” and I would rather live my life with a handful of great moments to draw inspiration from than without them.

      • Katei

        Too far for you, perhaps. I stand behind the idea that Lucas did not fart out the prequels; they were full-fledged craps. I guess I don’t remember my Darth Maul chills because I was distracted by my laughter. Palpatine taking over the government makes for a scary monster. Some red and black dude with horns and yellow eyes is the scary monster a child would draw. That or I’m too jaded by all my years of slasher films for some Judeo-Christian inspired Sith to have an impact.

        Do I remember the alcove in to the arena? Of course not. Attack of the Clones was the worst of the 3. I have tried to block as much of it from my mind as possible.

        I had hoped that Revenge of the Sith, being the final lead-up to A New Hope, would give me a few poignant moments to cling to. I got nothing.

        The cinematography and the score are spectacular. What a pity that they are tied to a backstory that turns Darth Vader into a whining, pathetic ass.

      • Duder NME

        I detected no such belligerence in his Stewart interview or any interview I’ve read about in the past. The only thing I’ve noted of him stating anything negatively was about the Holiday Special, and that he called Spider-Man 3 “silly”.

      • Katei

        I’d be happy to spend the entire day googling old interviews to back up my claims.

        But not really. You want to like the new movies and you are free to do so, as I am free to consider them a huge disappointment.

      • Duder NME

        Okay, but it’s still rather suspicious. These sources wouldn’t be of a bloggish nature like this site, right?

    • Anonymous

      If Jar Jar Binks is not as disliked as everyone thinks than why are we even talking about it?

  • Chip

    Honestly, I was born AFTER the original trilogy, and I saw ANH and AOTC (this one I saw at the movies with a friend) before I saw any of the originals. My mom rented the originals when I was in the 6th grade, and I loved them way more than the first two prequels. It was the original trilogy that made me so excited for ROTS, and that made me a Star Wars fan in the first place. And I’m NOT a part of the original Star Wars generation. Both trilogies had their flaws, but I think that the flaws of the prequels heavily outweigh those of the originals (although I do enjoy ROTS). I find TPM and AOTC incredibly boring.

  • Anonymous

    Er, theres no debate- the old ones were great FILMS, watchable by anyone, and these new ones are garbagy pulp B-movie nonsense only watchable by kids or grownups who turn their brains off. Lucas is just defending his work and trying to keep a good attitude- Im quite sure HE KNOWS ON SOME LEVEL that the new ones aren’t as artistically successful as the old ones- you know, with characters we care about, dialog that isn’t retarded, and stories that make at least half sense.

    • Duder NME

      “… grownups who turn their brains off”

      Katei, concerning my notion of ad hominem attacks by both sides, I give to you Exhibit A.

      • Katei

        LOL! Sorry, but I believe that in order to enjoy the prequels with an adult brain you most certainly do have to disconnect yourself from any abilities towards logic and reason. Perhaps the foundations of the story are strong, but the plot is rushed at best. Key elements are glanced over if not flat-out ignored. There is a reason why Lucas used to say he wouldn’t make Episodes 1-3 into movies. Because he makes good action movies and the lead-up to Palpatine’s Galactic Empire is basically a bunch of boring politics, espionage, etc. with the exception of the Clone Wars. So now that he’s changed his mind for whatever reason, we get a disjointed mess of simplified, glossed over politics interspersed amongst dazzling action scenes and special effects that seem shoved in so that the movie could attract people with its dazzling action scenes and special effects.

      • Duder NME

        Wait, Lucas didn’t want to make the prequels because you felt the politics were boring? Meesa confused.

      • Katei

        Lucas didn’t want to make the prequels because the technology was not on par with his vision. That and he was probably sick of STAR WARS at that point. And he has said in interviews that the “good stuff” was in the middle, which is why he chose to start in the middle. Because the beginning of the story was all boring politics. Sorry if I am unable to remember exactly what he said word for word.

      • Duder NME

        The interviews I’ve read concerning his need to start in the middle were more along the lines of being able to afford the setting at the time he was making the film, and even then he had to compromise to the point where he still wasn’t pleased with certain aspects (the cantina scene, for instance). I don’t recall his mentioning of any political bent in the Saga or his feelings about it at that time.

  • Anonymous

    Er, theres no debate- the old ones were great FILMS, watchable by anyone, and these new ones are garbagy pulp B-movie nonsense only watchable by kids or grownups who turn their brains off. Lucas is just defending his work and trying to keep a good attitude- Im quite sure HE KNOWS ON SOME LEVEL that the new ones aren’t as artistically successful as the old ones- you know, with characters we care about, dialog that isn’t retarded, and stories that make at least half sense.

    • Guest

      Good to see that your opinion is the only one that counts, anonymous internet asshole.

  • Guest

    I can’t believe people are saying the story in the prequels suck… or at least that’s how I took the comments. I like the prequels a lot because of the story; however, I may be biased because I love prequels, and I love them because you get to see where it all begins and where things come from. And that is exactly what the Episodes I, II, and III did. I mean shoot, how many of you wondered how and why all the jedis were slained, not to mention why Anakin became Darth Vader. I don’t know if any of you guys who dislike the prequels notice, but the story of how Anakin becomes Darth Vader starts on Episode I and follows greatly through the next two episodes. The fact that Anakin admits to his feelings of fear is a blatant foreshadow of his plunge to darkness, especially after Yoda’s words of wisdom. And then in Episode II we see how the anger and hate from losing his mother pushed him over the edge. And finally in Episode III it shows how he is blinded by love and anger which pushes him towards the darkside. I just that it was great how it was told. Not to mention the dramatic betrayal against the jedis and the when Obi has to take down Anakin. I mean come on, what did you expect?

    But then again, I believe I know why most people seem to like the original trilogy. I think it’s because the original trilogy was shot much like an adventure. No time skips and recurring characters that people grew to love. In contrast, the prequels seem to be more of a storytelling epic.

    • Fan

      I don’t want to demean your experience of the prequels, and maybe it is possible to enjoy the stories contained therein. But a lot of clever people watch the prequels and just don’t buy into the rather shallow motivations they provide.

      Allow me to provide but one example. In the original movies, Luke has his hand removed by Darth Vader at the end of Episode V. He has it replaced with an artificial hand, contained in a black glove. There is a poignant moment in VI where Luke returns the favour, cuts off Vader’s hand, and for a moment – there is that triumph in his eyes. Vengeance. Then the Emperor is applauding him. He’s pleased. And Luke raises his gloved hand to his face. His eyes glaze – and we all know what he’s thinking.

      The prequels contain a moment like that, too, minus the point. Anakin loses his hand… and… so what? It’s like George knew that someone had to lose a hand to make a good movie. But he missed the subtler point of his own creation.

      My personal opinion, however controversial, is that Lucas has grown senile. I don’t mean that with disrespect. I simply think he should be looked after, and his ‘works’ quietly shuffled somewhere aside. The money being poured into special effects for his ramblings is more of an embarrassment to the studios – and us, the audiences – than to him.

      Ps. I watched the prequels in the cinema, so I’m just as bad. I watched the original movies at various times on TV, with ad breaks, and out of order. I didn’t see the first half of return of the jedi until a couple of years ago. I’m not suffering from nostalgia.

      • Duder NME

        Anakin’s loss of a hand was a preamble to his growth as Darth Vader. If he had a Luke moment of reflection, it might have helped him turn to the Light Side, but because he didn’t have that moment, which concludes that he was all alone in his path. No precedent set before him to warn him of his fate. To him, it was just a cybernetic limb, and he had more pressing concerns to deal with. Luke wasn’t aware of a prophecy revolving around him for most his life. Luke didn’t strain under the pressure of a religious and policital power struggle rending his allegiance in two. Luke didn’t experience a recurring instance of personal loss. Just because Lucas liked to repeat themes throughout the Saga doesn’t mean that Anakin and Luke’s tales should be so rigidly adhered.

        And then you follow with glib advice that supposedly benefits us all. Thanks, but no thanks. Please don’t use “controversial” to anything regarding a personal bias. Controversy should be saved for more populist and global concerns. In any other fashion, it becomes an overrated term.

      • Anonymous

        For me, Anakin losing his hand in AOTC worked perfectly, because you could see the first step towards becoming Darth Vader. Your argument is ridiculous. There are countless meaningful moments in the prequels. You must be blind not to see them. Poor you!

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, I agree with you. The original trilogy was an adventure and therefore more accessible to the average Joe. Han Solo was not at all an important character, yet people could relate to him much more than the wise Qui Gon, because most people are much more like Han Solo, and they like excitement and stupidity. The Prequels tell a much larger story. They are two different angles on something. I am fond of this idea to not just be repetitive, but take another look at things. Well done, George!

  • The People vs. DrBathroomMD

    This is, by far, the greatest comment in this thread. Everyone else: hit the showers.

  • http://www.finestfirepits.com/ Star Carlton

    NECK FAT

    • Katei

      LOL! He is the Human Bullfrog.

  • Thiago

    George Lucas is an idiot. He had a great idea in the past, and thats all. And Jon Stewart is amazing as always.

    • Anonymous

      Thiago: Go eat your family loser!

  • Anonymous

    I think Star Wars has potential for more Stories, but let someone else write and direct with Lucas as a producer

  • Will

    Hey All

    The original triology was awesome and the prequels as well..The stories appeal to young and old and are to explore the path of its characters and transformations – such as Anakin as young hopeful boy trying to help his friends in need. The work involved is tremendous to tell a story and entertain the masses. As I worked on Episode One, yes there are always holes in all stories, take the stories as a whole and how young people watch and learn from them and you will find out that the series is entertaining and loved by many……

  • O.Baggins

    Lucas comments state the facts, as based on larger proportionate sales and reactions and spinoffs, and merchandising sales for the new trilogy as opposed to the old trilogy, u culturally illiterate, anachronistic imbecile.

  • Tito

    You also meant “The prequels were horribly miscast,” and “McGregor.”

  • O.Baggins

    Lucas comments state the facts, as based on larger proportionate sales and reactions, reviews, spinoffs, and merchandising sales for the new trilogy as opposed to the old trilogy, u culturally illiterate, anachronistic imbecile.

    • Moodyb

      When you are discussing a topic and you resort to name calling you are illustrating the point that you have lost the argument and all you have left in your arsenal is to spew invective. So sad.

      God

  • TIto

    Better yet, don't see either Transformers.

    Even though people just love bashing the prequels at the drop of a hat, it sure made a lot of money, so even the naysayers saw it more than a couple of times. And there were lots of people who thought they were good enough, even if they were far from perfect.

    Say what you will about Lucas, but he told his story the way he wanted to. He didn't come up with a few ideas and count his money while some other guys did all the hard work. And no, he didn't think special effects were all that mattered. The main problem in the result was that he got too focused on telling that story, and forgot that you need engaging characters and relationships. It got better by the time he made Episode 3, but by then it just makes you think what could've been. And I'd still rather have had the disappointing prequels than none at all.

  • Larry

    It's easy for fans to come up with ideas, it's another to thing to plan out three entire full-length features. It's like saying you would've swung at that third called strike that ended your team's season.

    I liked the prequels more than I didn't like them, but the whole expectations excuse doesn't work for me. Empire had bigger expectations than maybe any movie in history. It disappointed some at the time, but it got a pretty good response, if not a more positive one. Just because people expect a lot from a movie, it doesn't preclude it from meeting those expectations. The new Trek movie didn't do well because people had low expectations. And the LOTR sequels did do well despite people having high ones.

  • Will

    O. Baggins were you commenting to me in your two blogs, or you talking to society as a whole. As the films are to entertain people and teach values of good and bad

    • moodyb

      Especially when you do it twice in a row. (see previous reply) So incredibly sad.

      God

  • http://pensiveharpy.blogspot.com/ Pai

    For everyone who claims the prequels were more than pretty shlock, I wonder if you all could refute the claims made by this (7-part) review which points out every illogical, contradictory, and pointless element in the Phantom Menace: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

    Seriously. The prequels are indefensible as anything other than preschool-level storytelling and flashy eye-candy. As films they don’t hold a candle to the original trilogy, which Lucas had a lot of input and help in writing. Once he got to the point where he could do whatever he wanted, his blatant lack of talent for writing screenplays became obvious.

    • Duder NME

      That review sounded like the mumbled ramblings of a nitpicking fanboy. A few points of his were of the disillusioned nature I’ve heard about for a decade, but for the most part, he merely used his preferences as a means of critical objectivity, and then dismisses it all with non sequitirs. It just doesn’t fly. Plus, not funny.

      His Star Trek Generations one, however, is funny.

    • Anonymous

      That review is obviously from one of the dumbest people on earth!
      It’s almost funny how deranged some people are.

  • Anonymous

    Great interview, it’s nice to see Lucas doing interviews, even if he’s selling his book.

  • Da

    Um, you got the interview all wrong. Watch it again…

  • Muncho

    um Transformers 2 was way better than the first

  • http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#/Kinspin?ref=profile Kinspin

    Man quit trolling =p

  • bwycke

    Star Wars haters just can’t fathom that people genuinely like the prequels. And they go on an on an on debating spewing venomous phrases and words…I think you obviously have no lives to spend so much time obsessing about a make believe story .

    You are just as bad as you accuse GL of being because anyone who loves the prequels you attack with angry words it’s and can’t accept that millions of people like the prequels.

    Big Deal they are entitled!

  • CTEd

    The great thing about the old trilogy was that the characters felt real and the audience wasn’t spoon fed. In the original trilogy Obi Wan considered vader his one true failure, his fault. In the new trilogy his is absolved with a nice neat bow by his promise to his teacher.

    The new trilogy recycles ideas. Obi Wan & count Dooku…. “Ill never join you” is the same scene as Vader and luke in cloud city.

    And wouldn’t that scene with Yoda and Dooku been so much better if they had just whipped out their lightsabersand had at it? Did we need Dooku’s line telling us they had to settle it with sabers?

    The new series treats fans like they are 2 year olds, and pounds you over the head with everything, leaving nothing to nuance. But then that’s what movies are becoming – the intellingence is gone.

  • Khimarhi

    Just like George Lucas said in the interview there is a generational divide between fans of the original trilogy and the prequels. The younger fans like the prequels a lot more then the originals. If people wouldn’t be blinded by their nostalgia a lot of the older fans would find that the prequels are more enjoyable then what they allow themselves to think. No movies would ever measure up to the original trilogy because they were SO MUCH better then anything out there. In this day in age if the original trilogy was released they would be just another summer blockbuster and nothing special.

  • Vorador

    Answer your questions, I will.

    1. What mechanism of the force keeps the Jedi from discerning the presence of the Sith right under their noses?
    a. It is not the faulty mechanism of the Jedi that blocks their discernment. It's the powerful mechanism of the SITH you are underestimating. Generations of manipulation and deceit honed and crafted to perfection. Even the most discerning wont find something they do not know they are looking for.

    2. How do medichlorians grant force powers to their host?
    a. The same way FAITH empowers humans to do incredible things when properly trained and enough energy is placed by the intention. Medichlorians, represent the tangible substance that is faith. How one decides to use this substance is based purely on the host.

    3. ….and what mechanism keeps the Sith from discerning the presence of Anakin's children?
    a. The Sith DID discern Luke(Anakin's son). But, only when he became a real threat. Sith strength is a dual-edged sword. Sith values power and conquest over perception and awareness. The new “Avatar” movie underlines this point clearly. Great power to dominate others comes at the price of overlooking the less obvious details. That's why they(sith) failed ultimately.

    4. Given that Anakin was born on Tatooine and knew Owen personally, why does it make sense for Obi Wan to hide his son from him by taking him to this planet and hiding him with Owen?
    a. This question is it's own answer. Owen is the child's technical 'grandfather'. When Anakin turned to the 'Dark Side' he CEASED TO BE ANAKIN. He then became, Darth Vader. When you take on a new identity, you shed the old one. Obi-wan knew this all along. This was actually one of the more brilliant points if you look at it more closely. Obi-wan always knew that Anakin still had some good in him. He anticipated Luke making a change in his father at some point. So, leaving him with Owen was no threat at all.

    May The Force Be With You, Always
    Vorador

  • Anonymous

    I stand aside Smike and a few other people on this message board. I too loved the prequals. True, they were very different from the original trilogy films, but different in a good way. Less action, more political upheaval, more CGI. I still loved them.

    I never understood this brutal backlash everyone in the online community has given Mr. Lucas since 1999. They fail to see the problems in such recent films like the new Star Trek or Transformers which (in my opinion) were inferior to the prequals. As far as I’m aware, there is no armed resistance against JJ Abrams or Michael Bay.

    I think the main problem is that the guys who hate the new films grew up with the original Star Wars and loved it to death. Anything that goes against their predisposed image of what a “Star Wars” should be is immediately rejected. As kids, we were more accepting of silly things. I was (and still am) that way too! Don’t forget people, the original trilogy featured big-headed aliens playing saxaphones in the cantina or my favorite: the one-eyed, stop-motion monster living in garbage disposal. Give old George a break!
    And oh yes, call me a loser, but I didn’t mind Jar Jar Binks either. (I like his floppy ears.)

  • Doyle

    Come on, these films are PG, Lucas tells you himself, these new films were made for CHILDREN, not the older fans, my children love Jar Jar, they could care less what some 40 year thinks. My opinion, I wish Speilberg or J.J. Abrams would have been given the helm. But it's always easier to criticize than to actually go out and make one yourself, and have it be any good.

  • Doyle

    I can't remember, did it win anything? Maybe an award in visual effects and sound? That's probably it. What alot of people fail to understand, is that It's a movie, that's all. It's not meant to dwell our rest of our know natural lives about it. People take things so seriously. And why do people always have to insult people. I don't understand it. Like I said earlier, if people don't like his movies, go make your own, and lets see if they're any good (which they probably won't be). The prequels had alot of good and cool moments. My children love them. I like them their ok. The originals will always be the ones I like, but even those I can only watch once a year. Who wants to watch a movie over and over, boring.

    • Will8889

      It won six Oscars, for art direction, costumes, visual effects, editing, original score AND sound, and it was nominated for 10 awards that year.

    • Will8889

      It won six Oscars, for art direction, costumes, visual effects, editing, original score AND sound, and it was nominated for 10 awards that year.

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  • Mike

    Ridiculous! You make it seem as if the guy walked around with a miraculous vision handed down to him by God himself. Like a man burdened with a genius that could hardly contain if not penned onto parchments of sheepskin or tablets of gold. Blessed be Lucas, the anointed one!

    I'm not saying the guy's an idiot. But, he is by no means a good story teller. The movies were good entertainment for the young, the illiterate and the die-hard fans, but as far as good stories go they don't even come close to something like Lord of the Rings. Good stories are made of engaging characters and the interesting events they experience which change them in irreversible ways. Good movies are made by directors who can tell a story through actors that become their characters. The prequels fail on all accounts. The only good thing: awesome special effects!

  • Eric

    I’m sorry but the prequel trilogy is AWFUL. Jar Jar Binks goes down in history as the most annoying character of all time. What is missing from the prequels is the sense of adventure, everything feels artificial in the prequels and aside from Obi-Wan and Yoda none of the characters feel real. Anakin is as stiff as a manaquin, and Padme looks as stiff as a statue. None of the characters are nearly as interesting as they were with the classic films. By the way, none of the prequels won a single Oscar, whereas everyone of the original films picked up at least one Oscar a piece!

  • LL

    My reading on the question of why Obi Wan took Luke back to Tatooine is that Anakin (even as Vader) would never want to return to that planet. You consider the trauma of losing his mother and then succumbing to the dark side and slaughtering those Sand People……..

  • Daryl

    All I can say is that I enjoy all six movies. Of course they have a different feel to them, but there are things about the new series I love such as the pod race, underwater gungan city (the name of which escapes me) and the epic lightsaber fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin in revenge of the sith. Of course it still feels like they could have been much better but I'm certainly not like many fanboys and critics who absolutely hate them. ………….also movies based on KOTOR would be amazing….just saying.

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  • Dsa

    Wow, I can't believe someone called John Stewart a journalist…

  • Get over it.

    You CANNOT call yourselves true STAR WARS fans if you side with one trilogy or the other! ORIGINAL fans, step back, look at the WHOLE picture. Isn't it nice after watching the original trilogy to have some HISTORY on ANAKIN and the REPUBLIC?
    PREQUAL fans, go watch the original trilogy. Now aren't you glad that you KNOW what happened to ANAKIN and his CHILDREN?

    You shouldn't CARE about bad ACTING or an overload of CGI. I mean, SERIOUSLY, its a MOVIE series. Appreciate the fact that a GREAT mind like LUCAS was able to come up with such a FANTASTIC UNIVERSE, and that there were realistic STORIES about the CHARACTERS who live there.

  • Katei

    We should get over it because it's a movie, but we shouldn't care about the movie-aspects of it, such as the acting, directing and special effects? LOL! Okay.

    I will grant that the universe he created is pretty fantastic. If it wasn't, none of us would be wasting time defending or criticizing it. But if you think the stories are realistic, I hope you are still in grade school. That would probably explain your Caps Lock stutter as well.

  • Get over it!.

    Of course the stories aren’t realistic… they can fucking fly faster than the speed of light! I meant that if these characters existed, they would most likely go through the events that the movie portrays them going through. And I felt like emphasizing some words.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H23YX7YMA5ZZVSUGUFJSVW6YQQ Darth Burden

    I pretty much could give a damn if people did not like the prequels, I liked it, and more, and I’m pretty sure Gorge Lucas could give a damn what you think too, its his baby.

  • mitapacha

    the original triolgy is a masterpeice but the prequels are rat shit in comparison

  • Robert

    You people are morons star wars was a phenomenon it was perfect bad acting… Didn’t care to busy watching Liam neesan playing qui gon jar jar bunks was hilarious the second the phantom menace was over I went to walmart and purchased a jar jar binks. Sold it four weeks ago for $300 cause it was a mis coloring bad plot… Please I knew how the prequels were going to go but I didn’t see alot of it coming… Visual effects… At the end of aotc I got chills from seeing all those clones it was awing… Romance a little dry… I was a kid I didn’t care about no romance I wanted to see anakin get his ass handed to him by obi wan… And I wasn’t dissapointed… In the end it was a good ride, a ride I take quite often but when it’s all over it’s just a movie I salute you Mr. Lucas. My final thought GET OUT OF YOUR BASEMENT, TAKE A SHOWER PUT SOME ZIT CREAM ON GET SOME CONTACTS AND GET A LIFE and maybe you too can take your first steps into a much larger world MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU

  • Acetysl

    Basically George Lucas sold out. He doesn’t want to admit it, but the greedy fucker knows it.

    He says that the newer prequels were for a newer generation. In other words he completely changed everything about the series and marketed it for kids. Slap star wars on everything that can be sold and use special effects in every shot!! Forget dialogue and plot!

    I like how defensive the arrogant doublechinned fucktard gets when people criticize the prequel movies. He’s so used to being praised and adored while he bullies everyone else. Jon Stewart put him in his place with his comedic jabs.

    He also says that people should grow up and get over star wars. But why is he going to release the series again in 3d during 2012-2019 ?? Clearly he’s a money grabbing asshole who wants tons of cash and to never let the series die.

    Fuck you George, you money grubbing fat asshole.

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