Robert Downey Jr. Hints at Return for IRON MAN 4

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I’ve never really expected an Iron Man 4, however naive that may seem.  I really, really liked Iron Man 3.  So far, having not yet seen Guardians of the Galaxy, it’s my favorite film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  And I had always sort of taken the hint that it was the final Iron Man installment for Robert Downey Jr.  It wrapped up his version of Tony Stark’s arc in a way that felt complete to me.  Also, anyone who’s paying attention knows that, exempting his appearance in Avengers: Age Of Ultron, he might be getting too expensive for Marvel.  Blockbuster dealmaking is a complicated game and once an actor is branded with a successful role it gets extremely expensive to keep them onboard after their initial contract expires.

But Robert Downey Jr. isn’t wiping his hands of a potential Iron Man 4 just yet.  Despite Gwyneth Paltrow’s prognostication that a 4th film isn’t in the cards (and Downey himself seeming noncommittal over a year ago), there still might be another go-around for Marvel and the original Tony Stark.  Hit the jump for more on the potential for Robert Downey Jr. returning to Iron Man 4.

robert-downey-jr-iron-man-4Downey told Entertainment Weekly:

“It’s down to Kevin [Feige] and Ike [Perlmutter, CEO of Marvel Entertainment] and Disney to come to us with what the proposal is, and that’s on us to agree or disagree. When things are going great, there’s a lot of agreement. Right now, this [Avengers 2] has just been swell, hasn’t it? This has been a really good one and it feels good and we’re having a good time.”

He then added:

“It’s that thing of: Why give up the belt when it feels like you can barely get jabbed?”

iron-man-4-robert-downey-jr-kevin-feigeBasically, it seems that he’s saying he’ll sign on for another round if the deal is sweet enough.  Dealmaking in the press is nothing new for Downey and Marvel.  Last year Kevin Feige threw down the gauntlet, essentially saying Tony Stark could be played by different actors (who in all mathematical likelihood would have a lower quote than Downey) a la James Bond:

“I believe there will be a fourth Iron Man film and a fifth and a sixth and a 10th and a 20th.  I see no reason why Tony Stark can’t be as evergreen as James Bond. Or Batman for that matter. Or Spider-Man. I think Iron Man is a character just like that.”

What does all of this really hinge on?  The sliding scale of Downey’s value to Marvel (a notoriously frugal studio).  They’ll project Iron Man 4’s profits with Downey against the film’s prospects without him and, if the difference in the plus column exceeds Downey’s quote, they just might go back to him.  With a whopping eight untitled movies on their slate, there’s a chance we might hear more about this at the San Diego Comic-Con this week.

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  • Leo Spaceman

    “Straight Cash Home.”

    RDJs response when Feige asked how he would like to be paid.

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  • Leo Spaceman

    “Straight Cash Home.”

    RDJs response when Feige asked how he would like to be paid.

  • eternalozzie

    they crapped all over The Mandarin plot so I don’t see the point of a 4th film

    • Agent777

      The only point would be to do a proper version of The Mandarin… or Justin Hammer… or Crimson Dynamo… wow those movies sucked.

    • MichaelRWorthingon

      Ummm…point of a 4th film is to make another 1.2 billion dollars.

    • TigerFIST

      Did you not see the ‘All Hail the King Short Film’? They fixed the mandarin issue…

  • eternalozzie

    they crapped all over The Mandarin plot so I don’t see the point of a 4th film

  • Travis Gowen

    Ugh, after the last Iron Man movie I could use a break from his solo adventures. Humor and a desire to sell toys have clearly overtaken the action/adventure aspect of the series.

  • i AN LEGEND

    Lost me at “really, really liked Iron Man 3″

    • MJ

      The Mandarin character change completely ruined the rest of the movie for me.

      • Jack Saat

        They didn’t change it just some guy that stole the Mandarin name, the real Mandarin was not too please about it in the short marvel oneshot movie!

      • Robert

        Hey guy, Mandarin is not REAL !

      • Robert

        Hey guy, Mandarin is not REAL !

      • MJ

        That was just Marvel trying to have their cake and eat it to.

        The ruined the Mandarin for all time for me.

      • Aquartertoseven

        The One Shot was supposed to be in the end credits of IM3, it wasn’t made to appease fans, but Marvel deemed it too long and left it out. Huge mistake, they could’ve prevented the ample whining.

      • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

        Would have been pretty epic though to have a 10-minute credits scene, though. How cool would that have been?

      • Aquartertoseven

        Very. And literally, 90% of the complainers would’ve been silenced before they left the theatre, Marvel really botched this big time.

      • MJ

        It’s window dressing to cover up their Epic Fail.

      • TrekBeatTK

        Can the internet PLEASE stop using “fail” as a noun?! The word is “failure”. Epic Failure. Just because some idiot kid starts something on the internet doesn’t mean the entire educated world needs to follow suit. (this goes for other pointless modern tense changes, like “feels” when you mean “feelings”. “Feels” is a verb, as in “It feels wrong to use this word any other way”.

        (Sorry, MJ, this isn’t directed specifically at you. But I just felt I had to say it SOMEWHERE. We’re losing our language. The other day I saw a book at the library for young adults called SLAYED. Some editor let that go, even though the past tense of “slay” is “slain”. And then we wonder why kids can’t write.)

      • MJ

        I hear you, but this is an internet fan board, my friend. Of course I would’t use that term in a paper for work or a letter to someone.

        I think you need to relax a bit. In the context of a bunch of fans on this web site just shooting back opinions and thoughts, no one should really expect this to be of term paper quality.

        And besides, the term “Epic Fail” is kind of catchy and unique.

      • MJ

        Of course it was made to appease fans. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

      • Agent777

        Marvel tries to use the loose logic of comic books to band aid their movies. I don’t think it works.

      • Jack Saat

        They didn’t change it just some guy that stole the Mandarin name, the real Mandarin was not too please about it in the short marvel oneshot movie!

      • BigJimSlade

        The only Iron Man movie I’ve enjoyed was the third one.

        The villains weren’t any better in the first two. Jeff Bridges was given almost nothing to work with, but I guess he was the villain.

        I think he’s in a couple scenes where he’s ignored – then he’s the villain or something? Can’t say I remember anything about the first one, though.

  • Scurvy

    I agree that Iron Man 3 wrapped up that arc. It sounds like Avengers 2 might start him down a different path which would make room for a 4th film.

  • Scurvy

    I agree that Iron Man 3 wrapped up that arc. It sounds like Avengers 2 might start him down a different path which would make room for a 4th film.

  • Steven

    They need to take the next one seriously.

    The last 2 have been rubbish. They know they’re sure fire hits so they probably don’t care.

    • Agent777

      I saw a episode of the old Iron Man cartoon that covered the plot of the second movie essentially. It was half-an-hour long, yet still had more going for it and clearer story than the whole of Iron Man 2.

  • Steven

    They need to take the next one seriously.

    The last 2 have been rubbish. They know they’re sure fire hits so they probably don’t care.

  • MJ

    “I really, really liked Iron Man 3. So far, having not yet seen Guardians of the Galaxy, it’s my favorite film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.”

    Wow, perhaps lay off that crack pipe a tad, dude.

    We haven’t had a good IM since #1. He’s great as part of the Avengers, but I don’t need any more solo movies.

    • Aquartertoseven

      IM3 was a helluva lot better than the other Phase 2 films, hell, to anyone that’s not jumping on the bandwagon, it’s easily the best solo film, most character development, best twists, effects, action, it’s a great film.

      • MJ

        15 to 5. Nope.

        And let’s not forget 22 votes below for:
        Lost me at “really, really liked Iron Man 3″

      • Aquartertoseven

        So 15 douches jumping on a bandwagon decide? IGN users called Man of Steel the best superhero film last year, do their opinions mean that it was above mediocre? Hell no.

        Like I said, IM3 had it all, substance and style, it’s without a doubt the best MCU solo film, if you disagree, you don’t know what makes a good movie or you didn’t pay attention and you therefore question simple things that weren’t flaws at all if you had your eyes open, like why the armour fell apart, why Stark didn’t put up a better defence at the mansion etc. It had its flaws but you’re dreaming if you think it was bad. Substance=good.

      • MJ

        It stunk. Not more to say about it. Just read 90% of the posts on this article, my friend.

      • Aquartertoseven

        You have very bad taste. Giving this flack and yet don’t you love Cap 2? Which has no character development as opposed to an abundance in IM3. Total transparency and predictability as opposed to good twists in IM3. Endless cliches instead of subversiveness.

        It’s the Transformers of the MCU.

      • MJ

        Compariing Cap 2 to IM3 is like to comparing Star Wars to Battle Beyond the Stars.

      • Aquartertoseven

        I have absolutely no idea what that is, but like I said, IM3 had style and substance, Cap 2 had only style, it’s telling that you give a balanced film a hard time and yet praise the empty one. Says something about your total lack of standards.

      • MJ

        What’s more likely:

        (1) That the vast majority our us here who think IM3 was a weak-ass film are duchebags with no standards?

        or

        (2) That you and a couple of others here are fracking cinema genius’s who have correctly assessed that IM3 is the Citizen Kane of comic book movies?

        PS: The fact that you have never heard of Battle Beyond the Stars does not lend confidence in my opinion of your views here.

      • Aquartertoseven

        1) Clearly. It has by far the most substance of any MCU film, therefore it can’t be anywhere near bad, you’re kidding yourself and being completely ridiculous.

        Like I said, it has its flaws, but there’s a lot of room between bad and masterpiece (Citizen Kane btw, if you watch it now, kinda hard to sit through, the 2nd half of it especially. Considering that a masterpiece and IM3 crap, you appear to have been jumping on many bandwagons).

        So having not heard of some obscure, badly rated film takes away my credibility? Your reasoning continues to fall apart.

      • MJ

        You don’t know your movie history from just the past few decades — for what was considered THE major SW ripoff film in the 80′s — yet you expect me to take it fore-granted that you are a better judge of movies than me? And you mention standards — how can you have standards when you obviously don’t have a historical perspective on genre movies? To have standards, you have to have a robust understanding of a topic over time — that’s how you develop standards. You don’t have that capability.

        Where’s the beef? The emperor has no clothes here.

      • Aquartertoseven

        You’re very childish, do you know that? ‘The majority say this, so you’re wrong’. ‘You haven’t heard of some cheap knock off that was made for $2m and has only 4,000 votes on imdb, so literally no-one knows about it, but because you do, you’re a better judge of movies?? Are you an idiot or just high right now?

        Who says that I don’t have a historical perspective? I understand what Citizen Kane brought but as a film now, it’s difficult to sit through, I’m not going to say the opposite because I’m not a pretentious douche that’s trying to sound sophisticated, I’m just honest. It changed the game but taking into account what the game has become now, it trails far behind.

        To have standards you have to see that what was good way back when, may not be so good now. That’s what people mean when they say that a film does or doesn’t hold up.

      • MJ

        Blah Blah Blah — “trust me, I have standards, am a great judge of movies, and all of you who disagree with me are doucebags”

        U N C O M P E L L I N G ! ! !

      • Aquartertoseven

        That’s exactly my point, you’re completely ignorant to anything that doesn’t match your prior delusions. Everything I typed was entirely logical but logic is a bit out of your ballpark.

      • MJ

        Nice try, but you are the one who is completely ignorant of what most people think of these two movies, and you don’t even understand what “a standard” really means.

        Keep burying your head in the sand and insulting me. It’s no big deal to me.

        You wanted to tout RT User Ratings as proving your point, well here is what RT User Ratings tell us:

        – IM3 RT User Rating: 79%

        – Cap2 RT User Rating: 94%

        CASE CLOSED

      • Erin

        If this were The Gong Show, he’d be booed off the stage by now.
        But I doubt he’d know that history either.

      • MJ

        Don’t bother — he won’t have heard of that classically bad show either. LOL

      • Aquartertoseven

        That’s exactly my point, you’re completely ignorant to anything that doesn’t match your prior delusions. Everything I typed was entirely logical but logic is a bit out of your ballpark.

      • MJ

        Blah Blah Blah — “trust me, I have standards, am a great judge of movies, and all of you who disagree with me are doucebags”

        U N C O M P E L L I N G ! ! !

      • Aquartertoseven

        You’re very childish, do you know that? ‘The majority say this, so you’re wrong’. ‘You haven’t heard of some cheap knock off that was made for $2m and has only 4,000 votes on imdb, so literally no-one knows about it, but because you do, you’re a better judge of movies?? Are you an idiot or just high right now?

        Who says that I don’t have a historical perspective? I understand what Citizen Kane brought but as a film now, it’s difficult to sit through, I’m not going to say the opposite because I’m not a pretentious douche that’s trying to sound sophisticated, I’m just honest. It changed the game but taking into account what the game has become now, it trails far behind.

        To have standards you have to see that what was good way back when, may not be so good now. That’s what people mean when they say that a film does or doesn’t hold up.

      • Robert

        Iron Man 3 was the most disappointing movie of 2013. Hell, the weak Elysium and After Earth movies were better than that mess.

      • Aquartertoseven

        You see, that’s just ridiculous, and astoundingly wrong as well as vastly over the top? What were its major faults? The issues of PTSD, denial, identity issue, addiction to self-sacrifice, opting to leave that life? Because to any rational person, these are good things. Let me guess, you wanted to see magic rings that weren’t set up at all used against Stark.

      • MJ

        That dude’s right. I enjoyed both of those movies more than IM3. You are fighting a losing battle. The vast majority of people everywhere preferred a lot of movies to IM3 last year.

        Let’s take the comparison to Cap 2 again. If you don’t believe my opinions on this, just go look at both critical reviews and fan reviews at IMDB and Rotton Tomatoes for both of these movies….are all of those people wrong as well…they all got it wrong, but you and very small minority of people are right? WTF? You expect me to buy into that? LOL

        Your “take my word for it, I am great judge of movies” shtick is wholly uncompelling — nobody here is buying what you are selling.

      • Aquartertoseven

        On RT from nearly half a million people, IM3 has an average rating of 8/10, believe it or not, you’re in the minority on your views of it.

        Cap 2 was well reviewed and as I’ve explained, that’s a bit absurd. It has no controversy unlike IM3 but it’s also very bland, very, very safe with no discernable stamp, it’s homogeneous and really, nothing happens to the characters. Their situations change but they don’t AT ALL. I guarantee you that when you watch it again, you’ll come to your senses, for both films, as many have already.

        You think that critics and imdb users are always right? How very naive. Tell me, have you seen Mad Max? It has 95% on RT and a 7/10 on imdb (and for an old film, that’s very high, as the likes of X2 and Spiderman 2 have low 7s). Mad Max is garbage. The critics aren’t always right, in fact, sometimes they can be very wrong. I’m glad that I’ve enlightened you to this basic truth.

        Prioritising style over substance and seeing the lack of the latter where people like you fail to, I clearly am a good judge of movies.

      • MJ

        “On RT from nearly half a million people, IM3 has an average rating of 8/10, believe it or not, you’re in the minority on your views of it.”

        LOL — can’t believe you are bring RT user ratings up:

        – IM3 RT User Rating: 79%

        – Cap2 RT User Rating: 94%

        COMPLETE ASS-KICKING of users preferring Cap2 over IM3.

        LOL

      • MJ

        “On RT from nearly half a million people, IM3 has an average rating of 8/10, believe it or not, you’re in the minority on your views of it.”

        LOL — can’t believe you are bring RT user ratings up:

        – IM3 RT User Rating: 79%

        – Cap2 RT User Rating: 94%

        COMPLETE ASS-KICKING of users preferring Cap2 over IM3.

        LOL

      • Erin

        You have more than made your point. You smoked him; stick a fork in him, he’s done.

      • MJ

        Thanks — I agree.

      • MJ

        Thanks — I agree.

  • MJ

    “I really, really liked Iron Man 3. So far, having not yet seen Guardians of the Galaxy, it’s my favorite film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.”

    Wow, perhaps lay off that crack pipe a tad, dude.

    We haven’t had a good IM since #1. He’s great as part of the Avengers, but I don’t need any more solo movies.

  • MJ

    ““I believe there will be a fourth Iron Man film and a fifth and a sixth and a 10th and a 20th. I see no reason why Tony Stark can’t be as evergreen as James Bond. Or Batman for that matter. Or Spider-Man. I think Iron Man is a character just like that.”
    – Robert Downey Jr.

    “Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7.”
    – LeBron James

    Two great examples of bullshiters who can’t deliver

    • http://www.JustPressPlay.net Lex Walker

      That first quote is Kevin Feige, not Downey. Kind of a major difference in context. Dead on with LeBron though.

      • Pernell Whitaker

        What will you boys find to say about King James when he delivers a championship to the Cavs I wonder?

      • LEM

        wow, pigs do fly!

      • Pernell Whitaker

        You seriously think the Cavs chances of a championship in the next few years is that slim?? Crazy.

      • MJ

        Get Kevin Love, and then I will take this more seriously.

      • MJ

        Give me a Kobe Bryant (in his prime) over LeBron any day.

      • Pernell Whitaker

        Wiggins will be a serious threat in 1-2 years… Irving will improve with LBJ there. Love would make Cavs a force right away, but either way in 2-3 seasons they will be there.. Im a big Kobe fan, so dont wanna compare, shame they never played together in prime

      • MJ

        Perhaps. But it better be sooner rather than later, because with his big body and NBA mileage, he’s going to start slowing down and breaking down by 33 to 34. His defense is already not as good as it used to be.

        Are you “the” Pernell Whitaker?

  • MJ

    ““I believe there will be a fourth Iron Man film and a fifth and a sixth and a 10th and a 20th. I see no reason why Tony Stark can’t be as evergreen as James Bond. Or Batman for that matter. Or Spider-Man. I think Iron Man is a character just like that.”
    – Robert Downey Jr.

    “Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7.”
    – LeBron James

    Two great examples of bullshiters who can’t deliver

  • appolox

    And what exactly would Iron Man 4 be about?

    • Walt Gamble

      The Quest For Peace

      • appolox

        LOL

    • Walt Gamble

      The Quest For Peace

  • appolox

    And what exactly would Iron Man 4 be about?

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  • Friday

    Well, from what i’ve herd, hell get paid his % cut, for establishing the Character(ore something), regardless, if he play’s him ore not, so might as well get him (if they want to make another one).
    Was’nt really betting one IM4, as he’s last contract was only for Av.2&3), but would’nt mind one eather.

    • Aquartertoseven

      The thing is, the people that say he costs too much are disingenuous; how much do his IM films make in toy sales, dvds, in network rentals, Netflix, etc.? The film alone made $1.2b, adding that ^^^^, Marvel have probably made around about double that ^. And growing.

  • Friday

    Well, from what i’ve herd, hell get paid his % cut, for establishing the Character(ore something), regardless, if he play’s him ore not, so might as well get him (if they want to make another one).
    Was’nt really betting one IM4, as he’s last contract was only for Av.2&3), but would’nt mind one eather.

  • LEM

    The only concern is now that Marvel has an established and intertwined universe they should only recast and not do any reboots and replacing RDJ in that role will be very difficult.

  • LEM

    The only concern is now that Marvel has an established and intertwined universe they should only recast and not do any reboots and replacing RDJ in that role will be very difficult.

    • Agent777

      When I see RDJ I only see RDJ. I don’t think “Hey it’s Tony Stark” or “Hey it’s Iron Man” I think “It’s wacky Robert Downey, Jr., the less talented son of Robert Downey, Senior!”

      • LEM

        It could be worse…he could be either talentless son of Martin Sheen.

    • theseeker7

      yea but, given we know that RDJ will definitely at least be sticking around to also do Avengers 3, I think the main overall story arc they’ve been building (almost certainly Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet) will sort of be done by that point anyway. And obviously not that they won’t be making any more movies at all after that point, but each of the individual franchises could probably wind up doing more or less a reboot, as with starting the next major phase of the narrative (that is, REALLY thinking in the grand scale, that Phases 1, 2 and 3 will all sort of being the smaller parts of the true “Phase 1″)

      • LEM

        I don’t want any reboots, hopefully they just continue with new stories and replace the actors when they need to.

      • theseeker7

        well yea okay I didn’t necessarily mean “reboot” in the way that’s come to be regarded these days in Hollywood, more just like I could see pretty much all the actors being recast at that point.

  • Japp

    He will do it! Only if he gets a money printing machine.

  • Agent777

    James Ellroy said “Closure is bullshit.” The Idea that Iron Man 3 provided any closure is also bullshit.

  • Avery Merrick

    I can see Iron Man 4 take the May 4, 2018 date.

  • MichaelRWorthingon

    Yes you are a bit naive as Iron Man 4 has always been 99% likely….just like Star Wars 7 was. It may not be tomorrow but it will happen. Corporations aren’t known for throwing away billions of dollars in profits for no reason.

  • goahead_sue_me

    I agree with Evan, I really, really liked Iron Man 3. Shane Black definitely brought his voice to the story and it works so well with the Tony Stark character. I thought the Mandarin twist was original and obviously a well-executed surprise. Even if some thought it was a cheap portrayal of the Mandarin. The Marvel movie universe is a completely different universe from the comics, so it definitely affords the writers some room to take some liberties with the source material. I hope they give Downey however much money he asks for, they’ll make it all back in two weekends when the movie is released. He’d be a gigantic shoe to fill for another actor; and I don’t think the franchise would survive a change that large being as fresh as it is.

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  • Napoleon

    I want a TRUE Mandarin film. But Iron Man 2 and 3 both sucked so damn hard, I don’t know if I even want a 4th one. I can only sit through so much garbage before it starts to really get to me.

  • theseeker7

    This will probably ultimately sound naive, but I wonder if it really would come down so much to “his quote”, just because, RDJ has already made just an obscene amount of money off the Iron Man character (I think I heard thanks to his back end deal on the first Avengers, he walked away with almost $70 mil… ?) and taking into account the kind of guy he seems to be (and admittedly what I’d like to think him to be)… I mean, once you get to a certain dollar figure, how much more do you really need? Mind you, and that’s with doing something like it’s not the most unpleasant task he’s ever been asked to do, at the end of the day it’s still being the star of an IM movie. It ain’t like he’s digging ditches, it sure seems like he’s digging the work. Now, if it would mean it would partly be preventing him time-wise from doing a different project he’s really passionate about, that’s another issue…

  • MarvelFan_1

    Iron Man 3 was only a bit sucky because Shane Black robbed us of what was building up to be a great villain in The Mandarin, I felt a bit robbed.
    Now if the one shot: All hail the King is accurate, apparently there is a “real” Mandarin out there, Iron Man 4 could be the Iron Man we wanted in IM3, all I care about is that the next IM film has a good script and a Villain good enough to put Stark on his toes.

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