After 2010âs feature film adaptation of The A-Team, director Joe Carnahan is back on the scene with his action-survival flick The Grey. The pic is garnering some pretty great advanced buzz, especially for the bad-assnes of star Liam Neeson, and Steve recently sat down with the director to talk about the film. While weâll have the full interview up soon, we wanted to share a few interesting tidbits that Carnahan revealed regarding a couple of his upcoming projects.The director spoke a bit about his adaptation of Mark Millarâs comic Nemesis, revealing that he and Millar have talked about the possibility of Neeson playing Blake Morrow in the pic. Additionally, Carnahan spoke at length about his Pablo Escobar epic Killing Pablo, saying that itâs the film he hopes to make next. The director also talked about dropping out of Umbra, the happy coincidence of The A-Team not being a big hit, and more. Hit the jump to see what he had to say.First up, Carnahan talked briefly about Nemesis. If you're unfamiliar with the material, the comic asks the question "What if the smartest, toughest costumed bad ass in the world was totally evil?"Â The director revealed that he and Millar have actually discussed the possibility of Neeson playing the lead in the feature film adaptation:
âMark Millar and I were talking about Nemesis and I had mentioned that I think a particularly fantastic Blake Morrow would be Liam Neeson.â
Furthermore, Carnahan said that heâs still very much involved with the project, saying, âIâve never lost interest in Nemesis.â He went on to say that the project is in ongoing development.
Additionally, Carnahan talked at length about his Pablo Escobar film Killing Pablo, and revealed the reason he dropped out of the conspiracy drama Umbra (which Martin Campbell is now directing):
âPersonally if I could make Killing Pablo thatâs the film I wanna make, man. Thatâs where the soul beats, and thatâs probably why I didnât do Umbra. As much as I loved Umbra and as much as I loved Jim Stern, everybody at Endgame, I was gearing up for that process and itâs like, the idea that I would travel or go anywhere away from my family without it being something that absolutely is some essential part of my DNA as a filmmaker it isnât worth it, I just canât do it right now. But Pablo absolutely beats the loudest for me right now, so if I had my druthers thatâs what I would do.â
When asked if the film is 100% ready to go, Carnahan responded without hesitation that itâs very much moving forward:
â[The] scriptâs 100% greenlit and ready to go. I just have to go cast it. I have to decide when I wanna do it, which Iâd love to do it in the fall. Thatâs assuming that The Grey doesnât come out and fucking tank (laughs).â
As far as casting goes, Carnahan said thereâs people heâs thinking about but no one that heâs âlanded on too heavily.â He was remiss to reveal more, but he did say the script for Killing Pablo is probably the best heâs written thus far:
âAs much as I love The Greyâs script, Killing Pablo to me is the best thing Iâve ever written. My younger brother Matt Carnahan who wrote World War Z and is 10 times the screenwriter I am, I mean I looked at my younger brother as like âThat fucking kid can write his ass off.â But he is of the mind of, heâs like âI feel like thatâs your best script.ââ
Carnahan reiterated that success begets success, and said that the mediocre box office performance of The A-Team was something of a blessing in disguise:
âSometimes it works in a wonderful way thatâs unintended which is if A-Team had been a big Iâd be making A-Team 2 right now, I wouldnât have made The Grey which would have been the travesty, I think.â
Iâve heard great things about The Grey so Iâm excited to finally check it out. Carnahanâs enthusiasm about Killing Pablo is refreshing, and if he puts all that passion into getting the film made I think weâll be in for one hell of a movie.
Hereâs the portion of the interview where Carnahan talks about Nemesis and Killing Pablo, followed by a full transcript. Weâll have the full interview up closer to the filmâs release. The Grey opens January 27th.
Collider: Do you get inspired for other ideas when working with Liam Neeson?
Joe Carnahan: You know itâs funnyâand Iâll let this cat out of the bag just for youâMark Millar and I were talking about Nemesis and I had mentioned that I think a particularly fantastic Blake Morrow would be Liam Neeson. So in that respect, yes.
I would imagine youâre being offered quite a few things. What are you looking for, for the future? And also, do you wanna clear the air regarding the status of Nemesis?
Carnahan: Iâll say this, Mark and I are in discussions. Iâll say Iâve never lost interest in Nemesis. He and I both fell victim to a kind of executive breach of trust that took place that itâs not even worth commenting on. That was a classic example of âhe said, he said.â Thatâs an ongoing development. Where Iâm at right now, personally if I could make Killing Pablo thatâs the film I wanna make, man. Thatâs where the soul beats, and thatâs probably why I didnât do Umbra. As much as I loved Umbra and as much as I loved Jim Stern, everybody at Endgame, I was gearing up for that process and itâs like, the idea that I would travel or go anywhere away from my family without it being something that absolutely is some essential part of my DNA as a filmmaker it isnât worth it, I just canât do it right now. But Pablo absolutely beats the loudest for me right now, so if I had my druthers thatâs what I would do.
Is the script 100%?
Carnahan: Scriptâs 100% greenlit and ready to go. I just have to go cast it. I have to decide when I wanna do it, which Iâd love to do it in the fall. Thatâs assuming that The Grey doesnât come out and fucking tank (laughs).
I donât see that happening.
Carnahan: I know, but I say that all the time [and] you never know. Iâm more cautiously pessimistic because itâs like, you get your ass handed to you enough, you take nothing for granted. Iâm very proud of the film. Warrior was a great film, it made $5, you know what I mean?
I loved Warrior, one of my favorite films of 2011. I thought more Batman fans would go just to see what Baneâs gonna be like. But you have the Liam Neeson factor. I think that Tom Hardy and Joel Edgerton, while we know who they are, my parents donât know who they are, and Liam is just Liam.
Carnahan: And hopefully thatâs enough of an X-factor. That would empower my effort to make Pablo, and it would obviously make it a hell of a lot easier. Weâll see.
Do you already have an idea for any casting in it?
Carnahan: Thereâs people Iâm thinking about but thereâs nobody I would land on too heavily. I think the problem is if I would say âI want this guyâ it becomes almost like a negotiating point for their agents to say âWell he said in this interview on Collider that he loved my client!â So literally, thatâs what happens. It becomes currency in a weird way.
Donât you think that the industry has shifted a little bit with less high profile movies being made that you can be a little more strong-arming nowadays than you could even three to five years ago?
Carnahan: Success begets success. Itâs weird because sometimes it works in a wonderful way thatâs unintended which is if A-Team had been a big Iâd be making A-Team 2 right now, I wouldnât have made The Grey which would have been the travesty, I think. But success still begets success, so if The Grey is successful, it will be absolutely that much easier for me to broad-shoulder that and push it through and say, âIâm making this movie, and 75% of itâs gonna be in Spanish.â (To the camera) I donât mean 75%, I mean 15-20% (laughs). So itâs always a very dodgy proposition if youâre talking about the uncertainty of âWell what happened with this movie?â Because this movie gets you the next one.
I would say that if you have a lot of action and a lot of blood and guts, then that helps also.
Carnahan: By the way, Killing Pablo to meâas much as I love The Greyâs scriptâKilling Pablo to me is the best thing Iâve ever written. My younger brother Matt Carnahan who wrote World War Z and is 10 times the screenwriter I am, I mean I looked at my younger brother as like âThat fucking kid can write his ass off.â But he is of the mind of, heâs like âI feel like thatâs your best script.â You gotta go strength-to-strength at some point, you know what I mean? Or Iâll wind up out of the industry completely; Iâll end up directing community theater at Culver City.
I think youâre gonna land on your feet.