Major Updates on STAR TREK 2

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To promote the release of Star Trek today on DVD, Blu-ray, and digital download, the cast and crew have once again stepped into public to let us know where the U.S.S. Enterprise is heading next.  First, a bit of sad but not totally unexpected news: We probably won’t see Star Trek 2 until 2012.  It is a bit of a bummer considering that we’ve grown accustomed to a breakout hit having its sequel ready in two years time.  The bright side is that they won’t be rushed and can really put their time into making this film better than the first.

Hit the jump for more about the sequel’s villains, timeline, and the tone the filmmakers want to set.

star_trek_enterprise_-_j.j._abrams_star_trek_movie.jpgSci Fi Wire got some major scoops about Star Trek 2 on the red carpet last night as members of the Trek cast and crew celebrated the release of their hit film on DVD, Blu-ray, and digital download.  While they’re still being a little sparse with big revelations-partially because they’re still crafting the story-they did share some of the ideas they’ve been tossing around for the sequel.

Of all the scoops, the one I found most interesting was producer/writer Damon Lindelof’s revealing that the sequel may avoid a conventional, chronological timeline in relation to the first film.  Says Lindelof,

“One of the things we like to do as storytellers is drop you in the middle of something…Could this be something that predated even, perhaps, some of the adventures that they had in the first movie? Does it happen five years later? Is it happening two seconds later? Who knows? So we’re not going to tell you.”

star_trek_movie_poster_comic_con.jpgThis isn’t a huge surprise when you remember that Lindelof is the co-executive producer of Lost and that Star Trek diretor J.J. Abrams created Alias, a show which often began in medias res (as did Abrams 2006 film, Mission: Impossible III).

The filmmakers are also looking to eschew convention when it comes to the tone of their sequel.  Rather than going bigger and louder, Lindelof says they’re taking a different approach:

“When you buy your ticket and your popcorn and you go and sit and watch the second movie that we’re all working on together, we want to give the audience an experience that feels like it’s not a sequel in all the best ways.”

But where they are hewing to convention is in possibly resurrecting the series’ most popular antagonist, Khan Noonien Singh, played by Ricardo Montalban both in the character’s debut in the Star Trek episode “Space Seed” and more famously in the most popular Trek movie, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.  Here’s what Sci Fi Wire had to report:

“We’re not even at that stage yet, but the fun of where we are on the sequel is we could use some of what was done before in a new way,” Abrams said. “But we haven’t even figured out what we would use yet, so it’s very early on.” [Co-writer Roberto Orci] added that the creative team would vote on whether Khan works for their new story. “That’ll be kind of a groupthink decision,” Orci said.

I really hope they vote this idea down.  Khan doesn’t even fit with the new continuity and I think Abrams’ Star Trek should forge its own direction and create new villains rather than stay on the remake bus just to please those fanboys who lack imagination and fear anything that isn’t familiar.  If they want to draw from Trek cannon, then they should increase the role of Klingons, Romulans, and other prominent alien species from the series.




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  • nNark

    See, Matt, this is a fine example of why, even though I usually enjoy your snarky tone, you are just like all the other fanboys (admit it – it’s ok) in that nothing is ever good enough for you. Quote: “…and can really put their time into making this film better than the first.”

    Hmm. Trek was considered by most critics far and wide as not only a terrific SCI-FI movie, but one of the year’s best, period. Clearly, though, you hope for more, more, more. Good luck with that. Batman 3 can’t possibly live up to expectations, either, so I suppose we’ll all wait on pins and needles for your scathing review in 2012. If the world is still here.

  • nNark

    See, Matt, this is a fine example of why, even though I usually enjoy your snarky tone, you are just like all the other fanboys (admit it – it’s ok) in that nothing is ever good enough for you. Quote: “…and can really put their time into making this film better than the first.”

    Hmm. Trek was considered by most critics far and wide as not only a terrific SCI-FI movie, but one of the year’s best, period. Clearly, though, you hope for more, more, more. Good luck with that. Batman 3 can’t possibly live up to expectations, either, so I suppose we’ll all wait on pins and needles for your scathing review in 2012. If the world is still here.

  • Havoc

    You are an idiot!
    When attempting to do a sequel, every good film maker attempts to make the next better then the previous no matter how good it is. That is one of the joys about film making is that you are always learning and pushing your creative boundaries.
    I am a big Trek fan and I agree that the new one was very good, but Abrams can indeed deliver a sequel better than the first. George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Christopher Nolan, and Peter Jackson have all made incredible movies, then they proved how great they are by making great sequels.
    BTW, if any director is capable of making a movie that can continue the greatness of The Dark Knight it is Nolan.

  • Havoc

    You are an idiot!
    When attempting to do a sequel, every good film maker attempts to make the next better then the previous no matter how good it is. That is one of the joys about film making is that you are always learning and pushing your creative boundaries.
    I am a big Trek fan and I agree that the new one was very good, but Abrams can indeed deliver a sequel better than the first. George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Christopher Nolan, and Peter Jackson have all made incredible movies, then they proved how great they are by making great sequels.
    BTW, if any director is capable of making a movie that can continue the greatness of The Dark Knight it is Nolan.

  • Dogg

    At its best, the Star Trek of Roddenberry’s conception tried to makes you think. What pissed me off about this new version is it never even tried to do that. What REALLY pisses me off is all these trekkie nerds didn’t even notice.

  • Dogg

    At its best, the Star Trek of Roddenberry’s conception tried to makes you think. What pissed me off about this new version is it never even tried to do that. What REALLY pisses me off is all these trekkie nerds didn’t even notice.

    • Davidjradich

      I noticed. I REALLY NOTICED! And I am very pissed off! Star Trek sucked plain and simple. I hated this film almost as much as I hated Pearl Harbor. AND FOR THE SAME REASONS! When reading all the drooling fanboy’s comments out there, all that comes to mind was Ellen Ripley’s question asked at her inquiry in the film “Aliens”…”Did IQs suddenly drop while I was away?!” Dogg, It is good to see that I am not alone.

  • nNark

    Thanks for proving my point, Havoc. Yes, of course every filmmaker hopes to follow up a successful story with one that is even better, but, again, the fact that this Trek exceeded the expectations of even the most skeptical fan means it was pretty darn good, no? And here you are, expecting the next to top it. Yep. Never satisfied.

    • nNark

      As for Batman, yes, no one will argue that Nolan is the man to get it done, and do it well. What I’m saying is, the next one will have to fight hard to get out from the Joker’s great shadow.

      • Havoc

        nNark

        We can both agree that Star Trek exceeded expectations, and I am not saying that I am not satisfied for Abrams’ Star Trek, I appreciate his courage on paving a new path. However, there is always room for improvement. I also believe that in this genre it his the high expectations of fanboys that help drive film makers to create the best possible film. Then when they do we reward them with huge sales and praise for their work.

        As for Batman 3, The Joker did cast an incredible shadow. I am simply telling you not to be so pessimistic, and to simply trust in Nolan.

  • nNark

    Thanks for proving my point, Havoc. Yes, of course every filmmaker hopes to follow up a successful story with one that is even better, but, again, the fact that this Trek exceeded the expectations of even the most skeptical fan means it was pretty darn good, no? And here you are, expecting the next to top it. Yep. Never satisfied.

    • nNark

      As for Batman, yes, no one will argue that Nolan is the man to get it done, and do it well. What I’m saying is, the next one will have to fight hard to get out from the Joker’s great shadow.

      • Havoc

        nNark

        We can both agree that Star Trek exceeded expectations, and I am not saying that I am not satisfied for Abrams’ Star Trek, I appreciate his courage on paving a new path. However, there is always room for improvement. I also believe that in this genre it his the high expectations of fanboys that help drive film makers to create the best possible film. Then when they do we reward them with huge sales and praise for their work.

        As for Batman 3, The Joker did cast an incredible shadow. I am simply telling you not to be so pessimistic, and to simply trust in Nolan.

  • lt. ripley

    actually khan fits perfectly well into the new continuity, seeing as how he was shot into space a decade ago. he’s still out there floatin around with the new gang only needing to find him. personally, though, i do agree they should not go to the khan well. it’s been done. unless they get javier bardem to play the famous sikh. that would destroy my brain in the most awesome way possible.

    • Davidjradich

      Knowing how JJ Abrams F__ked up the last one, I would no doubt expect to see Ricky Martin as Khan.

  • lt. ripley

    actually khan fits perfectly well into the new continuity, seeing as how he was shot into space a decade ago. he’s still out there floatin around with the new gang only needing to find him. personally, though, i do agree they should not go to the khan well. it’s been done. unless they get javier bardem to play the famous sikh. that would destroy my brain in the most awesome way possible.

  • Spicepirate

    I don’t understand waddahell nNark is trying to say, your logic makes no sense, noone is going to deliberately make a film worse then its precedence, from a purely capitalistic standpoint that makes NO sense and from a psychological standpoint it again makes no sense. Fans will always go see something they are a fan of, even if they dont like it because they have had so much time with it, they have been rewarded over and over again, I believe it’s called operant conditioning. but the majority of money made from the movies wont be from fans, it will be from the rest of te public, who arent willing to go see a sequel if the one they just watched sucked. nNark, I think you are a pessimist with a superiority complex that rages to the point of idiocy, good day to you sir

  • Spicepirate

    I don’t understand waddahell nNark is trying to say, your logic makes no sense, noone is going to deliberately make a film worse then its precedence, from a purely capitalistic standpoint that makes NO sense and from a psychological standpoint it again makes no sense. Fans will always go see something they are a fan of, even if they dont like it because they have had so much time with it, they have been rewarded over and over again, I believe it’s called operant conditioning. but the majority of money made from the movies wont be from fans, it will be from the rest of te public, who arent willing to go see a sequel if the one they just watched sucked. nNark, I think you are a pessimist with a superiority complex that rages to the point of idiocy, good day to you sir

  • Paul Kachouroff

    All you guys are so wrong in your thinking about Star Trek. Yes, they HAVE to bring back Khan – he’s the BEST villian ever so far. Sure, they can always try to reinvent themselves a little later down the road, but we Trekies actually WANT the reincarnation of the older subject matters in these new movies. O.K., let’s all be frank here, the latter Star Trek series, alondg with the movies themselves, sucked out loud! THEY WERE NON-CONFRONTATIONAL POLITICALY-CORRECT SOAP-OPERAS! They were goofy with rediculous characters – all cross the board. Watching aliens talk like humans was embarrassing! Captain Pickard just simply talked (he was so old and awful to look at). Data was so stupid – a nerd. Nobody died in the scenes, and the politcal correctness was overbearing. Nearly every character looked like one of the muppets. The Next Generation was geared to kids – not to Trekies. The other spin-oofs, like Deep Space Nine, same crap. Boring dramas with a bunch of political correctness and “affirmative action tainted” diologues that we could have simply flipped to CNN to hear. We as Treckies want real science fiction movies. This recent Star Trek was amazing because they simply went back tot he original character base and stayed true to the story line. Yes, go to Khan, but do it better than the original….if they do, they hit the nail on the head. But here’s the catch, they HAVE to do it better or don’t do it at all. In other words, don’t even do another Star Trek if you can’t. And please don’t stick Woopie Goldberg in any of these movies unless you kill her off early! In my opinion, another Khan would really send the Star Trek phenomenon into overdrive since it was the best “bad guy” they came out with. AFTER Khan, then yeah, go and start reinventing new characters. But come’on guys, they managed to introduce the characters in this new movie…let them show us a little more of the past before you go forward and get a little crazy!

  • Paul Kachouroff

    All you guys are so wrong in your thinking about Star Trek. Yes, they HAVE to bring back Khan – he’s the BEST villian ever so far. Sure, they can always try to reinvent themselves a little later down the road, but we Trekies actually WANT the reincarnation of the older subject matters in these new movies. O.K., let’s all be frank here, the latter Star Trek series, alondg with the movies themselves, sucked out loud! THEY WERE NON-CONFRONTATIONAL POLITICALY-CORRECT SOAP-OPERAS! They were goofy with rediculous characters – all cross the board. Watching aliens talk like humans was embarrassing! Captain Pickard just simply talked (he was so old and awful to look at). Data was so stupid – a nerd. Nobody died in the scenes, and the politcal correctness was overbearing. Nearly every character looked like one of the muppets. The Next Generation was geared to kids – not to Trekies. The other spin-oofs, like Deep Space Nine, same crap. Boring dramas with a bunch of political correctness and “affirmative action tainted” diologues that we could have simply flipped to CNN to hear. We as Treckies want real science fiction movies. This recent Star Trek was amazing because they simply went back tot he original character base and stayed true to the story line. Yes, go to Khan, but do it better than the original….if they do, they hit the nail on the head. But here’s the catch, they HAVE to do it better or don’t do it at all. In other words, don’t even do another Star Trek if you can’t. And please don’t stick Woopie Goldberg in any of these movies unless you kill her off early! In my opinion, another Khan would really send the Star Trek phenomenon into overdrive since it was the best “bad guy” they came out with. AFTER Khan, then yeah, go and start reinventing new characters. But come’on guys, they managed to introduce the characters in this new movie…let them show us a little more of the past before you go forward and get a little crazy!

  • Jason

    I agree with most of what you said, but not about The Next Generation. I think maybe you didn’t get that series. It did make you think, and it wasn’t always politically correct. You’re dead wrong that no one ever died. Remembered Tasha Yar? When they brought her back a few seasons later in a time travel episode, and again in the time travel at the series finale, it was great story-writing.

    • Paul Kachouroff

      “Mon Jason, it was all politically correct by means of the characters they used, not simply the plot. O.K., you found someone that may have died – congratualtions! But get real bro’, Deep Space Nine and Star Trek the Next Generation were a bunch of computer graphics animation. The original had nothing – just story line and marquis characters that eventually became icons. I’m not trying to walk on you because you may have liked them. Great if you did, but they were boring man. You see, there was ABSOLUTELY NO TENSION in most of the story lines of these 2 “geared for kids money makers” I mean, the title “next generation” kinda’ says it all if youthink about it. Maybe the story writing was great, no denial there. It was the producing, directing, and creating in an era all about political correctness and peace-making n(the 1990′s???) I’n not knocking you whatsoever if you liked the series, I’m simply saying that there was very little connection to the older series…they just weren’t exciting and depended upon computer graphics. The characters??? Look, stick a woman in the captain seat, and I don’t want to watch it anymore. I’m sorry, if they even make her capable of hand-to-hand combat in any typical scene, I can’t take it to seriously. Maybe they should use a woman for the next Rambo??? Oh and Woopie Goldberg telling an alien kid about indifference and falling in love is pathetic. Hey, Captain Picard’s upper-cut and fierce fighting scenes were really great!!! Oh, and the emotional Kling-on Officer named Warf??? Why not just put a crew of humans and stick with it??? Ah, they can’t can they…gotta’ get goofy for the little kids and stick with a minimal violence referrendum…JUST LIKE THE LOUSY MOVIES WITHT HE NEXT GENERATION. Thnak God for the new movie!!!

  • Jason

    I agree with most of what you said, but not about The Next Generation. I think maybe you didn’t get that series. It did make you think, and it wasn’t always politically correct. You’re dead wrong that no one ever died. Remembered Tasha Yar? When they brought her back a few seasons later in a time travel episode, and again in the time travel at the series finale, it was great story-writing.

    • Paul Kachouroff

      “Mon Jason, it was all politically correct by means of the characters they used, not simply the plot. O.K., you found someone that may have died – congratualtions! But get real bro’, Deep Space Nine and Star Trek the Next Generation were a bunch of computer graphics animation. The original had nothing – just story line and marquis characters that eventually became icons. I’m not trying to walk on you because you may have liked them. Great if you did, but they were boring man. You see, there was ABSOLUTELY NO TENSION in most of the story lines of these 2 “geared for kids money makers” I mean, the title “next generation” kinda’ says it all if youthink about it. Maybe the story writing was great, no denial there. It was the producing, directing, and creating in an era all about political correctness and peace-making n(the 1990′s???) I’n not knocking you whatsoever if you liked the series, I’m simply saying that there was very little connection to the older series…they just weren’t exciting and depended upon computer graphics. The characters??? Look, stick a woman in the captain seat, and I don’t want to watch it anymore. I’m sorry, if they even make her capable of hand-to-hand combat in any typical scene, I can’t take it to seriously. Maybe they should use a woman for the next Rambo??? Oh and Woopie Goldberg telling an alien kid about indifference and falling in love is pathetic. Hey, Captain Picard’s upper-cut and fierce fighting scenes were really great!!! Oh, and the emotional Kling-on Officer named Warf??? Why not just put a crew of humans and stick with it??? Ah, they can’t can they…gotta’ get goofy for the little kids and stick with a minimal violence referrendum…JUST LIKE THE LOUSY MOVIES WITHT HE NEXT GENERATION. Thnak God for the new movie!!!

  • Mike

    Huh. I love that they title this article “Major Updates on Star Trek 2″, then discuss Abrams quotes that basically say, “We don’t know what we’re doing, and if we did, we’re not going to tell you”.

    Can’t wait to see what the minor updates look like.

    • Davidjradich

      “We don’t know what we’re doing, and if we did, we’re not going to tell you”. Abrams said that huh….? I got that feeling while watching that turd of a film. JJ Abrams has the courage to admit it. Well, that’s something.

  • Mike

    Huh. I love that they title this article “Major Updates on Star Trek 2″, then discuss Abrams quotes that basically say, “We don’t know what we’re doing, and if we did, we’re not going to tell you”.

    Can’t wait to see what the minor updates look like.

  • headshot

    i think some of you have good points, but this guy paul is a idiot. ok i did not like the next generation so much, and alot of times i was not to into the characters. i did not like the next generation movies all that much either, but lets be real if you bring back the kahn character you might as well hit the snooze button. he may have been the best one on one character to challenge kirk, but he is played out. it would be like watching the same movie but with better special effects. if anyone remembers the first star trek movie it was about a f@*king satelite type probe. does not sound very interesting but it was a great movie because of the way they told it. i think as long as they
    are as creative with the next one as this newest one, they will be fine. they could do alot of new things with the timeline now that they have changed it. i think bringing out a new villian would be more of a hit, and paul to say you did not like any of the other star trek series is like saying you are not a real star trek fan like you say you are. when you put the ds9 story together from beggining to end. it was one of the best star trek stories ever told. you never knew who was going to help who. it was very exciting. maybe you should watch it again

    • Paul Kachouroff

      Dude, you’re so stupid. If you read what you wrote, at the very end, you say that I’m not a true Star Trek fan. You’re reasoning supporting Deep Space Nine being so great was that “you never knew who was going to help who” and this was “exciting”??? LOL Hey Everybody, bring your popcorn! We’re all gong to watch a HELPFUL Star Trek show that will be oh soooooo EXCITING. Who’s YOUR favorite HELPFUL character??? Mine’s Woopie, though she’s on the other series. I’m sure she can HELP her way onto Deep Space Nine and sprea a nice HELPFUL ANTI-RACISM theme to promote a new and EXCITING plot. Maybe the FEMALE CAPTAIN can show some HELPFUL WAYS to rid the galaxy of Kling-Ons!!! Oh and I almost forgot, Angelina Jolie might be cast for the next Rambo too!!! You’re such an idiot. Wanna bet you dress up like Data and never miss a Star Trek convention??? By the way, Eddie Murphy has a new Kiddie Flick comin’ out soon, Just to inform you so that I can be HELPFUL and make it EXCITING!!!

  • headshot

    i think some of you have good points, but this guy paul is a idiot. ok i did not like the next generation so much, and alot of times i was not to into the characters. i did not like the next generation movies all that much either, but lets be real if you bring back the kahn character you might as well hit the snooze button. he may have been the best one on one character to challenge kirk, but he is played out. it would be like watching the same movie but with better special effects. if anyone remembers the first star trek movie it was about a f@*king satelite type probe. does not sound very interesting but it was a great movie because of the way they told it. i think as long as they
    are as creative with the next one as this newest one, they will be fine. they could do alot of new things with the timeline now that they have changed it. i think bringing out a new villian would be more of a hit, and paul to say you did not like any of the other star trek series is like saying you are not a real star trek fan like you say you are. when you put the ds9 story together from beggining to end. it was one of the best star trek stories ever told. you never knew who was going to help who. it was very exciting. maybe you should watch it again

    • Paul Kachouroff

      Dude, you’re so stupid. If you read what you wrote, at the very end, you say that I’m not a true Star Trek fan. You’re reasoning supporting Deep Space Nine being so great was that “you never knew who was going to help who” and this was “exciting”??? LOL Hey Everybody, bring your popcorn! We’re all gong to watch a HELPFUL Star Trek show that will be oh soooooo EXCITING. Who’s YOUR favorite HELPFUL character??? Mine’s Woopie, though she’s on the other series. I’m sure she can HELP her way onto Deep Space Nine and sprea a nice HELPFUL ANTI-RACISM theme to promote a new and EXCITING plot. Maybe the FEMALE CAPTAIN can show some HELPFUL WAYS to rid the galaxy of Kling-Ons!!! Oh and I almost forgot, Angelina Jolie might be cast for the next Rambo too!!! You’re such an idiot. Wanna bet you dress up like Data and never miss a Star Trek convention??? By the way, Eddie Murphy has a new Kiddie Flick comin’ out soon, Just to inform you so that I can be HELPFUL and make it EXCITING!!!

  • Starkman73

    Oooh Man I can just see Antonio Banderas as Khan. But I also think that maybe they should remake the original meeting of Kirk and Khan as opposed to “The Wrath of Khan”. He could then be incorporated more as an arch-nemesis instead of the one time bad-guy who is defeated in the two-hour sitting. This will allow for yet more development of this alternate timeline and help set up for yet another sequel for this incrediblely bountiful universe from the late, great, Gene Roddenberry.

  • Starkman73

    Oooh Man I can just see Antonio Banderas as Khan. But I also think that maybe they should remake the original meeting of Kirk and Khan as opposed to “The Wrath of Khan”. He could then be incorporated more as an arch-nemesis instead of the one time bad-guy who is defeated in the two-hour sitting. This will allow for yet more development of this alternate timeline and help set up for yet another sequel for this incrediblely bountiful universe from the late, great, Gene Roddenberry.

  • headshot

    lol. wow. actually I have never been to a star trek convention. it sounds to me like you are a self diluted, sexist and racist ass. who cant see past the tip of his penis, and omg a female captain! that goes against everything we as a nation have overcome, like prejudice. why don’t you get the grip off your penis and get one on the real world. two. you are a dumb ass for thinking everyone who enjoys star trek is someone who dresses up and goes to a convention and knows klingon. it could be because someone has a love for space and enjoys a show / movie that takes place in omg ……space. who would have thought, or that they like a show that does not stay in the same mind numbing, stupid square box that uneducated people like yourself can understand. don’t hate the show just because you don’t understand any of the dialogue. maybe you should just stick to sesame street, learning your a…b…c… and your 1..2…3. and the fact you know a new eddie murphy movie is coming out seriously makes me wonder if you yourself are a adolescent. in which case tell your parents I am sorry for the language, now run along. drink your juice box and take a nap. On the way, grab a napkin homie, you just got served. For those fans that do go to the conventions, who really cares. It is a passion you have. A sense of belonging. No different than people who drift there cars, like myself, or play sports. Like myself. Point being you can be from any walks of life to enjoy something and share that love with other people. Its ass wipes like this guy that cant see past the assembly line of who and what you should be laid out by the media and society. Live long and prosper trekkies “v”

    • Paul Kachouroff

      Raed your dialogue DUMMY. It’s a bunch of Hate-mail dribble. Your obviously offended because you’ll like anything that “pogressively” (I wrote this for you!) injects liberal politics into it, even at the expense of realism and sincerity…even if it makes a mockery of something great like the original Star Trek series for example. No, a woman can’t play “Rambo”, professional football, or hand-to-hand combat with Kling-Ons (not really). Hey, a guy couldn’t play one of Hugh Hefner’s girls on the show, “The Girls Next Door”. Look, the original story line was 4 or 5 human beings, and an alien (Spock). We could relate to them because we were most like them. On the new series, they packed it with kiddie crap, aliens that had humanistic modern day problems sending a political message to our young viewers. I don’t have to spell it out, they plain ole suck! (much like you LOL) Now, at least we know that even Star Trek has touched us all in our modern day society…even further than your buddies at the Star Trek conventions. Think about it – STAR TREK HAS REACHED THE WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON D.C.!!! I mean really, has there ever been, a more BRUTAL, “PHYSICALLY PAINFUL TO LOOK AT”, first lady that CLEARLY RESEMBELS Warf from Star Trek the Next Generation????? I mean, Warf was a real P$%$%%Y (emoti0nal wimp thanx to the new Star Trek Generation producers) and he looks just like Obama’s wife. They have the same brooding forhead coupled with an overbite that’s obviously come from years of CAR CHASING!!!!! Damn is she UGLY!!! Hey, She and Woopie, THEY HAVE TO BE RELATED IN SOME WAY… I mean really, BOTH are equally as GROSS. Hm, a dyke and a Kling-On…. Hey, just fro the record for all of my fans out there reading this response, notice that during the writer’s dribble, they take the time to express, in some sort of profane way, their propensity for “penis”, “ass”, “sesame street”, and “adolescence”…Man, I thought Michael Jackson died already!!!! If the idiot above would like to talk civily about this, just call me at 936-650-9198, and you can tell me your views….leave your pedofile tendacies at home please! Thanx!

  • headshot

    lol. wow. actually I have never been to a star trek convention. it sounds to me like you are a self diluted, sexist and racist ass. who cant see past the tip of his penis, and omg a female captain! that goes against everything we as a nation have overcome, like prejudice. why don’t you get the grip off your penis and get one on the real world. two. you are a dumb ass for thinking everyone who enjoys star trek is someone who dresses up and goes to a convention and knows klingon. it could be because someone has a love for space and enjoys a show / movie that takes place in omg ……space. who would have thought, or that they like a show that does not stay in the same mind numbing, stupid square box that uneducated people like yourself can understand. don’t hate the show just because you don’t understand any of the dialogue. maybe you should just stick to sesame street, learning your a…b…c… and your 1..2…3. and the fact you know a new eddie murphy movie is coming out seriously makes me wonder if you yourself are a adolescent. in which case tell your parents I am sorry for the language, now run along. drink your juice box and take a nap. On the way, grab a napkin homie, you just got served. For those fans that do go to the conventions, who really cares. It is a passion you have. A sense of belonging. No different than people who drift there cars, like myself, or play sports. Like myself. Point being you can be from any walks of life to enjoy something and share that love with other people. Its ass wipes like this guy that cant see past the assembly line of who and what you should be laid out by the media and society. Live long and prosper trekkies “v”

    • Paul Kachouroff

      Raed your dialogue DUMMY. It’s a bunch of Hate-mail dribble. Your obviously offended because you’ll like anything that “pogressively” (I wrote this for you!) injects liberal politics into it, even at the expense of realism and sincerity…even if it makes a mockery of something great like the original Star Trek series for example. No, a woman can’t play “Rambo”, professional football, or hand-to-hand combat with Kling-Ons (not really). Hey, a guy couldn’t play one of Hugh Hefner’s girls on the show, “The Girls Next Door”. Look, the original story line was 4 or 5 human beings, and an alien (Spock). We could relate to them because we were most like them. On the new series, they packed it with kiddie crap, aliens that had humanistic modern day problems sending a political message to our young viewers. I don’t have to spell it out, they plain ole suck! (much like you LOL) Now, at least we know that even Star Trek has touched us all in our modern day society…even further than your buddies at the Star Trek conventions. Think about it – STAR TREK HAS REACHED THE WHITE HOUSE IN WASHINGTON D.C.!!! I mean really, has there ever been, a more BRUTAL, “PHYSICALLY PAINFUL TO LOOK AT”, first lady that CLEARLY RESEMBELS Warf from Star Trek the Next Generation????? I mean, Warf was a real P$%$%%Y (emoti0nal wimp thanx to the new Star Trek Generation producers) and he looks just like Obama’s wife. They have the same brooding forhead coupled with an overbite that’s obviously come from years of CAR CHASING!!!!! Damn is she UGLY!!! Hey, She and Woopie, THEY HAVE TO BE RELATED IN SOME WAY… I mean really, BOTH are equally as GROSS. Hm, a dyke and a Kling-On…. Hey, just fro the record for all of my fans out there reading this response, notice that during the writer’s dribble, they take the time to express, in some sort of profane way, their propensity for “penis”, “ass”, “sesame street”, and “adolescence”…Man, I thought Michael Jackson died already!!!! If the idiot above would like to talk civily about this, just call me at 936-650-9198, and you can tell me your views….leave your pedofile tendacies at home please! Thanx!

  • Drew

    All I have to say is: Christopher Walken as Khan.

  • Drew

    All I have to say is: Christopher Walken as Khan.

  • VirusHysteria

    Well, they made this current Star Trek new and refreshing and it was amazing…

    I kinda like that formula.

    Today’s cinema is relying far too much on remakes and many viewers IMO would welcome a new Star Trek adventure, considering they did already mess with the whole “Alternate Reality” biz…

  • VirusHysteria

    Well, they made this current Star Trek new and refreshing and it was amazing…

    I kinda like that formula.

    Today’s cinema is relying far too much on remakes and many viewers IMO would welcome a new Star Trek adventure, considering they did already mess with the whole “Alternate Reality” biz…

  • treky587

    Ok number one, the first movie was fucking perfect in every way! it succedded in doing the imposible by captureing every aspect of the show that it possibly could. so there goal should not be to beat the first one, no directors goal should have that has its main goal. what they should be focusing on is finding a good story, if you find a good story and dont spend all your time thinking how can i improve a movie that was perfect in every way. secondly, they have a whole unerverse of ideas to explore and they should not take any ideas from any of the movies that have been done, the movies were perfect the first time and if they take the same idea from them, it just becomes another shity remake. what they should do is take an idea from the classic t.v show and expand it, make it more interesting, (with neo fucking the time line and everything all of the story line would probably be changed from the show now). because taking an idea from a 1 hour tv epsidode and expanding it into a 2 hour movie is not a remake. or they could try to do there own ideas but i think almost everyone wants to see a little something from the tv show they grew up with. any way whatever they do please for fuck sake do not do KHAN!!!! you can not improve that movie in any way!!!

  • treky587

    Ok number one, the first movie was fucking perfect in every way! it succedded in doing the imposible by captureing every aspect of the show that it possibly could. so there goal should not be to beat the first one, no directors goal should have that has its main goal. what they should be focusing on is finding a good story, if you find a good story and dont spend all your time thinking how can i improve a movie that was perfect in every way. secondly, they have a whole unerverse of ideas to explore and they should not take any ideas from any of the movies that have been done, the movies were perfect the first time and if they take the same idea from them, it just becomes another shity remake. what they should do is take an idea from the classic t.v show and expand it, make it more interesting, (with neo fucking the time line and everything all of the story line would probably be changed from the show now). because taking an idea from a 1 hour tv epsidode and expanding it into a 2 hour movie is not a remake. or they could try to do there own ideas but i think almost everyone wants to see a little something from the tv show they grew up with. any way whatever they do please for fuck sake do not do KHAN!!!! you can not improve that movie in any way!!!

  • Goldentrout

    I agree with Treky587. NO OLD MOVIE VILLAINS- been there, done that. Unless it’s a cameo or something. They could use any of dozens of TV show villains. Anything to do with time travel would be a mistake as well. As far as Khan, it’s too early in the new timeline for his appearance. Kirk hasn’t even “stranded” him yet. Anyway, we’ve told ‘em what NOT to do. Let’s hope they come up with something new and exciting- no retreads.

  • Goldentrout

    I agree with Treky587. NO OLD MOVIE VILLAINS- been there, done that. Unless it’s a cameo or something. They could use any of dozens of TV show villains. Anything to do with time travel would be a mistake as well. As far as Khan, it’s too early in the new timeline for his appearance. Kirk hasn’t even “stranded” him yet. Anyway, we’ve told ‘em what NOT to do. Let’s hope they come up with something new and exciting- no retreads.

  • Jagged Pixel

    Wow Paul… I think all that lens flare scrambled something in your brain. I get fed up with political correctness at times as well, but you seem PERSONALLY offended by the notion.

    I won’t get into the irony of misquoting someone after calling them stupid but it didn’t escape me.

    Not a big fan of resurrecting Khan. Best villain? Perhaps… but I’m not one to suggest that one should just kick back and let Khan REMAIN the best villain. You don’t get to be great by deciding the guy who came before you already did it all. Go for broke I say but either way, I’m in.

  • Jagged Pixel

    Wow Paul… I think all that lens flare scrambled something in your brain. I get fed up with political correctness at times as well, but you seem PERSONALLY offended by the notion.

    I won’t get into the irony of misquoting someone after calling them stupid but it didn’t escape me.

    Not a big fan of resurrecting Khan. Best villain? Perhaps… but I’m not one to suggest that one should just kick back and let Khan REMAIN the best villain. You don’t get to be great by deciding the guy who came before you already did it all. Go for broke I say but either way, I’m in.

  • Jagged Pixel

    Oh! I forgot the irony of misspelling “read” in the same sentence you refer to someone as a DUMMY. I’ll bet in the future spellcheck catches those little details.

  • Jagged Pixel

    Oh! I forgot the irony of misspelling “read” in the same sentence you refer to someone as a DUMMY. I’ll bet in the future spellcheck catches those little details.

  • Daniel

    Interesting article. To follow up on some of these comments, even though the first movie reviewed well (a huge sigh of relief for long-time fans of the franchise) they have the distinct advantage of building a deep and powerful story without spending the first half “reintroducing” us to this familiar cast of characters. Sure, it’s a fun movie, but to say it’s “perfect” is delusional. Nero proves to be one of the more one-dimensional and uninteresting nemesis in any Star Trek, and in several parts of the film the timing is so fortuitous that it defies believability (even for trek). It sounds like they want to keep everybody on our toes with this sequel, and I’m happy with that.

    Bringing back Khan doesn’t make much sense to me. I agree with the author. I’m not a huge fan of “Star Trek” suddenly taking on a “Spiderman” formula where a central protagonist jumps from villain to villain. What I hope we deal with one way or another is how the collapse of Vulcan, a strategic and intellectual power in the Federation, effects the balance of power in the quadrant. Perfect timing for some kind of unusual alliance against Earth while the Federation is weak… but then again, I’m thinking more like a Trekkie than the rest of you.

  • Daniel

    Interesting article. To follow up on some of these comments, even though the first movie reviewed well (a huge sigh of relief for long-time fans of the franchise) they have the distinct advantage of building a deep and powerful story without spending the first half “reintroducing” us to this familiar cast of characters. Sure, it’s a fun movie, but to say it’s “perfect” is delusional. Nero proves to be one of the more one-dimensional and uninteresting nemesis in any Star Trek, and in several parts of the film the timing is so fortuitous that it defies believability (even for trek). It sounds like they want to keep everybody on our toes with this sequel, and I’m happy with that.

    Bringing back Khan doesn’t make much sense to me. I agree with the author. I’m not a huge fan of “Star Trek” suddenly taking on a “Spiderman” formula where a central protagonist jumps from villain to villain. What I hope we deal with one way or another is how the collapse of Vulcan, a strategic and intellectual power in the Federation, effects the balance of power in the quadrant. Perfect timing for some kind of unusual alliance against Earth while the Federation is weak… but then again, I’m thinking more like a Trekkie than the rest of you.

  • William Conrad

    It’s not “Star Trek cannon”…it’s “Star Trek canon”…mmmkay?

  • William Conrad

    It’s not “Star Trek cannon”…it’s “Star Trek canon”…mmmkay?

  • William Conrad

    It’s not “Star Trek cannon”…it’s “Star Trek canon”…mmmkay?

  • digger

    New villan, time to move on to new exciting adventures, let’s have a new threat to the federation.

  • digger

    New villan, time to move on to new exciting adventures, let’s have a new threat to the federation.

  • digger

    New villan, time to move on to new exciting adventures, let’s have a new threat to the federation.

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