David S. Goyer Explains How MAN OF STEEL Sets Up JUSTICE LEAGUE and Other Future DC Films; WB Revving Up WONDER WOMAN and AQUAMAN

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Audiences will finally get to see director Zack Snyder and screenwriter David S. Goyer’s take on Superman late tonight with the midnight release of Man of Steel, and it’s no secret that a lot is riding on the success of MoS.  We’ve already learned that Warner Bros. has tapped Snyder and Goyer to reteam on a fast-tracked sequel to Man of Steel, but the studio is also hoping—in the face of Marvel’s immense success—that the film jump starts the studio’s other DC Comics properties as well as an eventual Justice League movie (ie. WB’s answer to The Avengers).

Snyder and Goyer have been coy thus far with regards to how Man of Steel fits into a larger DC universe, but now that the film looks to be headed towards a strong opening weekend, Goyer has revealed a bit more about how Man of Steel directly leads into Justice League and other future DC adaptations.  Hit the jump to see what he said, along with news that Warner Bros. is “kicking the tires” on Wonder Woman and Aquaman films.

david-s-goyer-justice-leagueSpeaking with Bleeding Cool, Goyer admitted that he and Snyder definitely considered the larger DC universe when plotting Man of Steel, noting that Superman’s actions in this film will lead to the unveiling of other superheroes:

“It is our intention that, in success, [Man of Steel] would be the zero issue and from this point onward, possible films could expand into a shared universe. In our world, the Man of Steel world, Zack has gone on record saying that we’re implying there are other superheroes in this world. But I don’t know that they’ve come forward yet. The idea is that Superman is the first one. There might be people helping people, but not in costumes, and that Superman comes forward and announces himself to the world. In him announcing himself, he’s the one that changes things.”

The interviewer then noted that Superman revealing himself to the world could lead to Batman putting on the cowl, to which Goyer replied:

“Well, yes… there’s definitely… I don’t want to get too in depth. Obviously, Zack and I have had conversations… but there would be a cause and effect. And that would extend to the collateral damage that happened, and to what other countries feel about the fact Superman calls America his home. Man of Steel doesn’t exist in a vaccum.”

Man-of-Steel-Henry-Cavill-imageSnyder recently suggested that a Man of Steel sequel would be moving forward before Justice League, and the recent report that Warner Bros. is “fast-tracking” the follow-up seems to suggest that we’ll be seeing Man of Steel 2 before Justice League or any further superhero films, but Goyer and Snyder certainly seem to have thought out how these other separate DC films will fit into the Man of Steel universe.

While Justice League is the only other DC feature that has been confirmed, a recent report at The Wrap notes that Warner Bros. is “kicking the tires” on films for Wonder Woman and Aquaman, which would be released after Justice League.  The report confirms that WB plans on releasing two Superman films before moving on to Justice League, but it’ll be interesting to see if Snyder incorporates any other DC characters—however minimally—into the Man of Steel sequel, providing a nice bridge into JL.  As a fan of Snyder’s take on Superman with Man of Steel, I’m incredibly eager to see how Warner Bros. moves forward with its DC characters.

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  • RiddleThemThis

    While I do enjoy both Wonder Woman and Aquaman, it seems that general audiences/people who don’t read the comics have a negative view of Aquaman, so that one might be a bit harder to pull off, especially at the box office. But if Wonder Woman works out, hopefully we can see more female superhero films.

    • croc

      i don’t think they should call the film ‘Aquaman’, maybe something more badass like how it was for ‘man of steel’. Any suggestions? (this could be fun…)

      • RiddleThemThis

        King of Atlantis, Lord of the Deep, Ruler of the Seven Seas? I’m not very good with movie titles, I still think Taken 2 should have been called Taken 2: The Limit.

      • yo

        Little Merman?

      • yo

        Little Merman?

      • Spanky

        Sea-Man

      • Nathan Ro

        Son of the Sea

  • Face it Yall, I called it.

    Face it Goyer, your movie is a 59% rotten POS on Rotten tomatoes. It’s a failure just like yours and Nolan’s one trick pony style of making super hero movies. Dark, witless, and po-faced means deep derp. Everything has to be done without style derp so it’s realistic derp. Fanboys need to feel their comic strips that were intended for children are serious literature derp.
    I knew this movie would suck because Nolan’s a fraud, Snyder’s an idiot and goyer’s a hack. Suck it fanboys, I’m smarter than you face it.

    Righteous Nolan Hater: When Nolan’s reputation is ashes, his fanboys have my permission to cry.

    Also is there any truth to the rumour jon nolan posts an offer for a chris nolan impersonator to pee in his mouth for money. I hear he uses the username of anyone critiquing Nolan. Post below jon to confirm ;).

    • Matt Clayton

      Are you a Marvel fanboy? And please stop trolling, you’ve obviously haven’t seen the movie yet.

      • Let it hurt so good

        58% now and sliding. I wouldn’t be surpise if it ends up below 50%. I called it when there was no reviews a week before the release but no “you don’t know derp. Nolan’s never failed derp.” Oh my god, it tastes so sweeeet!!!
        P.S. I was a Nolan fan until he utterly shat the bed with Rises and I knew then, he’d sold out, became a hack and would go the route of M. Night after that. This is the first confirmation of my prediction.

      • pinkincide

        I find your faith on the Tomatometer disturbing. You realize a movie could get 100% if every reviewer’s independent score was just 61%? It’s a vast force for mediocrity. So, yeah, right up your alley.

      • So Many Lulz

        I do realize this. Just like when I say Dark Knight Rises is terrible people always say “It got 87% derp”. This is why I’m throwing the tomatometer back in everyone’s faces. I’m an independent thinker who was at no point swayed into believing Rises was good as I was at no point duped into believing this would be a good movie when the team behind it is creatively bankrupt despite the expensive marketing campaign.Read the actual comments before you respond. Damn, I’m enjoying this. So much fun being so, so right.

      • So Many Lulz

        And FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, would someone PLEASE PISS IN MY MOUTH?!

      • Griz B. Failing

        Try harder Griz. Nothing’s removing the sweet, sweet taste of this victory.

      • Griz

        To the internet at large: My name is Griz. I’m an unoriginal failure of human being who has been harassing this poor, brave soul these many months because I have to live vicariously through Nolan’s accomplishments. I’m sad and my penis is quite small. I have a mental disorder that makes me copy and paste the asparagus insult (sad and lame I can’t come up with a new one I know). Please disregard all asparagus comments in the future as it is just me. I cannot help my compulsion and desperately need psychological council. Thank you for your time

      • onionrovirosa

        truth about film critics…..they are envious sheep. If is popular and smart they will bash it out of jealousy.

        *they did not expect dark knight to do so well in the box office and Heath’s death, otherwise they will have bash it too

    • Face it Yall, I called it.

      I should know, since i started that rumor, and seeing as the only thing i like more than trolling these message boards is a nice, hot british golden shower, i was wondering if anybody here knows if there is a Chris Nolan impersonator that i can hire to come to my house, gather my family in the living room, drop his pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “ACTION”? I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! I’m willing to pay $300 cash. $350 if he can make it taste like asparagus.

      • Inarguably Right

        Jon Nolan you incorrigible…. Hey, why don’t you spend more time on your scripts and less time cruising and maybe you and your bro won’t keep failing so bad each time.

        Griz does it sting that people aren’t willing to pretend Nolan’s tired style is something profound?

        Victory is so, so sweet. You can’t believe how gratifying it is knowing you were right from Day 1, seeing fanboys froth and foam at the mouth when you point out that an obviously bad movie from an obviously bad team will be bad, and, now, who can argue? The numbers speak for themselves. You can’t say critics don’t know what they’re talking about because your main defense of the godawful Rises was the critical “acclaim” (which was still lukewarm if you look at Metacritic). So which is it? Do critics know what their talking about: Rises. Or do critics not knw what their talking about: Man of Steel. Lulz. Flame away kids. I’ll let you hang yourselves. LOLOLOLOL

    • RiddleThemThis

      “Suck it fanboys, I’m smarter than you face it.” – This part was the best.

    • nintendozapper

      How old are you, 13? Like “derp” means anything beyond a tween mentality. Face it, you waste your time trying to shrink people’s self worth through their opinions. Who gives a shit if someone does or doesn’t like Nolan, except you certainly do. Classy.

      • Righteous Victory

        You’ve been gotten to. Lulz. Damn I love it so much. Let the butthurt flow Nolanites. Let it flow so good! LOLOLOLOL

      • nintendozapper

        Are you sure Nolan hasn’t gotten to you instead? Rises seems to have hurt your butt plenty. Is this what happens to a fanboy who becomes disappointed when his once beloved Dark Knight director “falls from grace” because it certainly looks that way. We get it. You were into him when he was cool. Now he’s not. How smart you are.

      • Flawless Victory

        Let me taste them salty tears Nolanite. [Licks moist cheeks] It tastes like sweet victory. Nolan’s a hack and I’d have no problem letting him make his shitty films but his fans are the most obstinate, annoying, self-righteous and delusional pack of douchebags who ever disgraced cinephilia. Hell, I respect a Bay fan more because they can admit when a film of his is shite but say “I enjoyed it depsite some flaws”. No Nolanites don’t do that though. They’re all like “Rises is genius without flaws, you’re critiques are ‘nitpicks” 87% Derp.” Well fuck them. The shoes on the other motherfucking foot now and I’m sticking it to them hard. Assclowns. 54 on metacritic lulz ;). Can’t argue with the numbers bitches.

      • nintendo zapper

        So, to you, as a former Nolanite (coming from someone, me, who never was one) what’s it like seeing everyone jump on a train you were so on board first before it got too crowded to practice your Cartman impression? Doesn’t it make you upset that no one sees what you are trying to say or how important the numbers are? By the way, you can finally take metacritic’s cock out your mouth now,it’s flaccid.

      • Lulz B. To Nintendo

        you have a lot to say about cock Nintendo. Repressed much? lulz

      • Flawless Victory

        Let me taste them salty tears Nolanite. [Licks moist cheeks] It tastes like sweet victory. Nolan’s a hack and I’d have no problem letting him make his shitty films but his fans are the most obstinate, annoying, self-righteous and delusional pack of douchebags who ever disgraced cinephilia. Hell, I respect a Bay fan more because they can admit when a film of his is shite but say “I enjoyed it depsite some flaws”. No Nolanites don’t do that though. They’re all like “Rises is genius without flaws, you’re critiques are ‘nitpicks” 87% Derp.” Well fuck them. The shoes on the other motherfucking foot now and I’m sticking it to them hard. Assclowns. 54 on metacritic lulz ;). Can’t argue with the numbers bitches.

      • Flawless Victory

        Also, nintendo: Would you by any chance know where i can find a Chris Nolan impersonator that i can hire to come to my house, gather my family in the living room, drop his pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “ACTION”? I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! I’m willing to pay $300 cash. $350 if he can make it taste like asparagus.

      • Griz

        You’re right. You’ve always been right and I’m sorry for bothering you. To the internet at large: My name is Griz. I’m an unoriginal failure of human being who has been harassing this poor, brave soul these many months because I have to live vicariously through Nolan’s accomplishments. I’m sad and my penis is quite small. I have a mental disorder that makes me copy and paste the asparagus insult (sad and lame I can’t come up with a new one I know). Please disregard all asparagus comments in the future as it is just me. I cannot help my compulsion and desperately need psychological council. Thank you for your time.

      • nintendozapper

        This was funnier the second time you cut and pasted it.

      • Lulz at Nintendo

        Talk to griz about copy and pasting butthurt boy.

      • NintendoZapper

        Why? Seems to me this should be done between you two in couples counseling.

      • Lulz

        So you’re also a homophobe, as well as being an overweight comic nerd. You’re the whole package Nintendo.

    • Rod

      ….I’m sorry Snyder, Nolan and Goyer ran train on your mom but dude, you need help

  • mm

    They really should put an actual team together to lead these films rather than just kick the tires. Maybe they dont need a Kevin Feige especially since their golden boy Nolan is on to bigger, better things, but I believe that they should put together a collaborative team now to form the universe together. Showing some teamwork on that can translate to a good team on screen.

  • sense11

    I just came back from the Movie theater,

    I LOVE MAN OF STEEL and cant wait to see where this all leads. Its skips all the BS and goes straight for what we want to see. I give it 5 Nerdgasms

    The critics complaining about too much action are missing the point about what a true superhero movie should be and what Superman is all about. This is not a story about Clark Kent being a pussy. Believe me people this is The Superman we have been anticipating for decades. GO SEE IT

    • Lulz

      Studio plant alert! studio plant alert! See? The Nolan apologist are already out in full force.Lulz

      • sense11

        I am not a studio anything, i wish i was but no, movies open on Thursdays where I live

        I am not a Nolan apologist, i accept him for who he is, people like you dont, dont really understand why you h8 on a movie you’ve never seen but whatever to each his own.

        have fun being miserable

      • lulz

        I’m really happy right now. Vindication will do that for you ;)

      • sense11

        fake vindication is meaningless, everyone in the theater was cheering from beginning to end, that’s all that matters. not your “standards”

      • lulz

        So, you’re obviously Goyer, haven’t you plugged this movie enough already? It has a record amount of product placement. Jesus man, how greedy can you get?

      • sense11

        fake vindication is meaningless

      • lulz

        But all kidding aside, dude, there’s only one sure way to make sure you’re not a studio plant. . . How about you come by my house, gather my family in the living room, drop your pants and start pissing in my open mouth while yelling “I’m NOT a plant!” I’d really like that, in fact, i’m pretty sure that it’ll be the best birthday ever! Also, how do you like asparagus?

      • Can’t Stop The Lulz

        Bud, Griz, at least have the courage to stand by your convictions. Stop posting under other people’s names and take ownership of your immensely idiotic, childish love of Nolan and your bizarre need to play the part of White Knight (there’s some role playing for ya) to Nolan’s damsel in distress. Nolan’s a failure, a fraud, a hack and a liar. Stop sublimating your immense sexual desire for him by following me around like a sad puppy. Nolan will not let you blow him, even after you tell him how you stuck it to his critics. Or, actually, he will simply because, as a prostitute, he will do anything for money, as evidenced by the outrageous amount of product placement in the soon-to-be joke film of the year: Man of Steel.

      • Griz

        You’re right. You’ve always been right and I’m sorry for bothering you. To the internet at large: My name is Griz. I’m an unoriginal failure of human being who has been harassing this poor, brave soul these many months because I have to live vicariously through Nolan’s accomplishments. I’m sad and my penis is quite small. I have a mental disorder that makes me copy and paste the asparagus insult (sad and lame I can’t come up with a new one I know). Please disregard all asparagus comments in the future as it is just me. I cannot help my compulsion and desperately need psychological council. Thank you for your time.

      • wow

        Good lord you have some problems. Do you like talking to yourself with other username? Go check into a metal hospital before you hurt yourself or others.

      • wow

        Mental hospital*

      • Lol at Griz

        Metal hospitals are a rare commodity these days. And It’s just me commenting for the most part. There’s a kid I schooled severely on a Nolan related thread and ever since he’s been too scared to engage me directly. Rule of thumb. The initial, insightful comment is me. The lame retread comment having Nolan piss in the mouth is the scared puss named Griz. I really, really whooped his ass and it’s the only recourse he has against me for fear of being schooled again.

  • Romsy

    People who think you can only like DC or Marvel are idiots. It’s ok to like both, considering every major artist and writer in the game has worked for and done great work at both companies. They have blended into one large market, Marvel loves the new 52 because it’s raised awareness and sales for both companies. On the flip side DC loved the Avengers vs X-Men event because it kept the ball rolling. It’s also okay to like both companies films too. But it seems far more fashionable to hate on Nolan or Whedon. The people that comment here about hating them are just sad people. Its ok to take these stories seriously with grit like Nolan or make them fun and mindless popcorn flicks like Whedon. Just take a deep breath everyone.

    • Tim

      Almost upvoted, till calling Whedon’s movie “mindless”.

      • Dantae

        You must be amazing at literature in high school If you really can find some deep meaning in Whedon’s movies.

  • kingofgrills

    It makes no sense to rush to the finish line and push out a Justice League movie before establishing and developing the team members in their own films first. The fact that DC and WBs choose to ignore the path to success developed by Marvel and do everything ass backwards shows they are doomed to fail. Who will actually care about the characters while watching Justice League if nothing is known about the characters in the DC film world. Also, how in the hell do they expect in 2 hours to introduce and develop multiple heroes as well as a villain worthy of them teaming up? They might as well bring back Joel Schumacher to direct. He did such a stellar job with Batman & Robin. Sounds like just the guy Warner Bros. is looking for.

  • http://whiterosebrian.tumblr.com/ White Rose Brian

    “But Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills. You’re from two different worlds. Oh, I have wasted my life.”

  • Superfan

    I feel very depressed after watching Man of Steel. It has lots of action but not essence, to me is not Superman

    • Strong Enough

      cause you’re a pussy

      • Victory!!!!

        “strong enough” to admit you were wrong that this movie would be good yet?….didn’t think so lulz.

      • Strong Enough

        i’ll get back to you when i see it on sunday

  • tertiaryintervention

    They should just do a World’s Finest with Supes and Bats.

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  • Javan Clark

    Due to the comment of one of the Nolan haters in residence here, I checked out RT and read the reviews… I couldn’t help but notice that those of you that didn’t like the film totally missed the point of it. It’s supposed to be a big dumb explosion filled ride with the greatest super hero ever created. That’s what we wanted, and that’s what we got. You want emo exploration? Go watch Smallville reruns. I for one just want to see Superman punch someone in the face.

    • sense11

      Thank You

    • Superfan

      Well, that´s not Superman, that´s just part of Superman (an important part), everything else is almost missing in Man of Steel, al least for me :(

    • Chris Parker

      I disagree.. it wasn’t supposed to be Avengers level explosions and action. For the entire build-up all I’ve heard over and over and over was how this was about character, about an alien from another world, about a son with two fathers – the movie I always wanted to see.. that’s what was promised. I don’t think any true Superman fans wanted a “big dumb explosion ride”.. that’s what Marvel serves up. We wanted something more.

      • Javan Clark

        I’ve heard that this was supposed to have a “Superman that punches someone in the face”…. this was the action figure Superman we haven’t seen in a movie yet.

      • Javan Clark

        I’m a “True” fan and that’s exactly what I want. I already know the character well enough to not need to sit through more tired exposition on how tough it is for Superman to be Superman.

    • Superfan

      And now that I think there were parts that seemed drawn from Smallville

    • Nolanites are beyond saving

      So wait, Nolanite, first you thought it would be thought provoking and yall were like “this will be superman for adults, derp. Finally a serious take on superman derp.” But now that everyone hates the mopey, thoughtless, witless, fun-free, action overkill Sucker Punch styles, you’re all like “it’s all about supes punching peeps in the face derp.” Even though there’s massive pacing issues and mucho talking until they gave up (much like Rises) and just threw a bunch explosions at the screen.

      God, all this flop sweat and tears from Nolan’s mindless legion is getting me sprung. Let me taste them [licks salty tears from the wet cheeks of Nolanites]

      MMMMMMmmmmmmm… taste damn, damn sweet. ;)

  • mawgaman

    Olivia Wilde for Wonder Woman!

  • Nomis1700

    This sounds great, and I’m a real big Aquaman fan! But still, I think a World’s Finest film is the way to go before JLA. Maybe Batman will show up in MOS2?

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  • Michael

    it would make sense being in a lot of different dc universe origin stories Superman was the beginning of the dawn of the age of heroes.

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