TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON Edit Bay Visit! Steve Watches 20 Minutes of the Movie and Interviews Michael Bay for Over 2 Hours!

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When I woke up yesterday morning, I knew very little about the 3rd Transformers movie besides the title (Transformers: Dark of the Moon). However, due to spending 3 hours with Michael Bay and the fact that he was willing to show us the teaser trailer, a montage of footage from the entire movie, and then he took the visiting journalists into his private editing suite and showed a huge chuck of footage from the final 3rd of the film, I know a tremendous amount about what’s almost certainly his last Transformers film.  And if it really is his last one, I think he’s going to go out with a huge home-run.

So here’s what you need to know: while Bay asked us not to reveal any of the spoilers we learned while visiting his editing room, he talked to us for over two hours over lunch and he discussed making the movie, why he used 3D cameras, what made him cast Rosie Huntington-Whiteley as Megan Fox’s replacement, editing in 3D, how much was shot in 3D and how much will be post converted, and so much more.  If you’re a fan of the Transformers franchise, you really should hit the jump:

Before going any further, one of the people I went to the editing room with was Jeremy Smith (Mr. Beaks) from AICN.  After we got back to my apartment, we recorded a video blog about what we saw and learned while at Bay films.  While I’ll be writing about it further down the page, if you’d like to hear us talk about what we did and what we thought, here’s the video:

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The other thing that you should probably watch is the just released teaser trailer.  I think this is a hell of a teaser and it does a great job letting you know they have a much stronger story than the second film.

Anyway…about my visit to Bay films.  The day started with a small group of reporters and some executives from Paramount entering a 15 person screening room.  Almost immediately after sitting down, Bay showed us the teaser trailer and we did an informal Q&A.  After a few questions, he showed us what I called a sizzle reel (but it was more a montage of shots and footage from the entire film) and then he talked to us for about 5 or 10 minutes.  After some questions, we rewatched the teaser and montage.

Once the footage was over, we all jumped into two cars and traveled to Bay Films.  As you might imagine, the walls were covered with his movie posters and we saw a few props in the lobby.  While the screening room had a lot of executives, when we sat down at Bay Films for a more in depth interview, he was alone.  He’d actually asked for the execs to leave us and he did the interview without any publicists or handlers (which was very cool).  For a guy who doesn’t do a lot of press, it was great to just sit around with one of the biggest filmmakers in the world and just talk shop.

At this point, we talked for at least an hour and we covered many subjects (everything is further down the page).  Some of what he said was off the record, which is why I can’t offer the audio files from today.  After eating some food, he then asked us if we wanted to see some more footage.  Needless to say, I said yes as soon as he finished asking us the question!

Bay then walked us across the parking lot and took us into a small building which housed his editing suites.  Once inside, we all sat down in a small room and Bay proceeded to control an Avid like a DJ would control a turntable.  While he asked us not to reveal what we saw in the footage…even though he’s only been editing for 3 weeks, what I saw floored me.  I could tell from the way he was fast forwarding the footage  that he already had a solid rough cut of the movie and it had background music consisting of the previous Transformers movies and the Inception score (which is what everyone is using to edit with right now).  While I can’t say what he showed us, I can say the footage looked fraking awesome.  The 3rd film has huge scope and some ridiculously awesome action set pieces.  I saw some stuff that I have never seen in any movie.  And even though it was rough and not even close to done, I was blown away at how easy it was to follow the action.

While some of you might criticize Bay and not like his movies, the one thing you’ve got to give him is he knows how to frame his action scenes.  Everything he showed us today was easy to follow and I know the story is so much stronger than the second film.  While I’d love to get into specifics, for now you’ll just have to trust me.  And just to make sure you know how I feel about the first two films…loved the first film.  Have serious issues with the second.

Anyway, enough about my thoughts.  After all, you can watch the video blog I did with Beaks for a more in depth recap of what we saw and learned while there.  Also, since the interview with Bay is about 9 pages in Word….

Since a lot of you won’t have the time to read everything Bay said to us, here’s a few highlights:

  • After talking to Buzz Aldrin (who is involved in the movie), he thinks they really went to the Moon in the 60′s
  • The teaser trailer has no final effects footage.  He wouldn’t even call any shot close to 80% done
  • He says you’ve got to massage every 3D shot
  • They’re ahead in the editing right now because he’s putting a lot of pressure on himself to do pristine 3D
  • Says “if you want to do proper 3D it’s a $30 million price tag.” Also “if you want to do dual eye-rendered robots, you got another 30% charge, because you got two eyes now, two different visual effects that have got to be blended. There’s more work on the visual effects shots.”
  • Did 5 months of research trying to decide between post conversion and shooting in 3D.  Tested everything.
  • Says they will have shot 70% or so in 3D and they’ll post convert the rest
  • He has 3 full time editors working on the film due to how much has to get done in such a short period of time
  • Spends an hour and a half everyday talking to ILM via video conferencing to talk about the effects.  Goes up there all the time to talk individually with the animators.  Says 25% of the CG work is being done at Digital Domain and the rest at ILM
  • Regarding what they shot in 2D, says “we shot most of my close-ups with faces with anamorphic film, cause that stuff’s easier to convert and it’s just more beautiful than the digital.”

Bay acknowledged the second movie had issues and is very excited for the 3rd:

“We tried to learn from the second movie. On the second movie we got burned. We had a writers strike, we had to agree on a story in three weeks, and then we knew they were going on strike. It was a fucked scenario all the way around, it wasn’t fair to the writer, it wasn’t fair to me, it wasn’t fair to anybody. It was still an entertaining movie, but I think we failed on certain aspects. What we did with this movie is I think we have a much better script, and we got back to basics. I think there’s some really cool action on this movie, there’s some very cool conspiracy, there’s great robot stuff in this that people were missing in the second one, you’ve got great robot conflict. So I’m excited about this movie.  It’s more serious. I got rid of the dorky comedy, I mean we’ve got two little characters, that’s it, but the dorkiness is not there. Dork-free Transformers. It’s much more serious. It’s still entertaining, it’s big looking.”

  • Rosie Huntington-Whiteley talk.  Says she speaks with an English accent and reveals how she got cast.
  • They will have filmed in China, Los Angeles, Florida, Washington DC, Chicago, Detroit, Africa and maybe Russia.  They film some stuff in Africa next month.
  • Principal photography lasted 6 months

Regarding the action set pieces, Bay describes them as:

“My take on this movie was that I wanted to make the fighting a lot more personal. In the past two movies the cavalry has always came in, this time the cavalry isn’t coming. It’s black hawk down, a small group; they’re fucked. It makes it more intimate.”

  • We’re not going to see sand in this movie.  Bay made a list of things he wanted to see in the 3rd film and wanted to make sure this film was a lot different.
  • Bay made it seem that this was his final Transformers movie.  At the end of the day I asked him what he might do next and he said he still wants to do the smaller film he’s been talking about for years.  When I asked what smaller meant, he said 20 million dollars. He said it’s a real life Pulp Fiction story.

michael_bay_image_04And with that…here’s some highlights from almost two hours of talking with Michael Bay.  I really wish I could share the audio…but it’s filled with spoilers and stuff that was off the record. Finally, a HUGE thank you to Michael Bay, Paramount, and everyone who made today happen.  As a huge fan of Michael Bay, today was something I’ll always remember.  Thank you for inviting me.

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Bay: People were going on the Internet, saying we didn’t do any 3D and there’s all this talk, so we’re just trying to set the record straight, you know? So… I don’t know… I’m sure you guys will have questions.

(Bay shows us the teaser trailer)

Bay: What do you guys think of that?

It’s a good sales pitch.

Bay: Is it? I’m just trying to spin it a little bit. We have a more serious story this time and I’m trying to make up for movie 2. (Laughter)

What do you think Neil Armstrong is going to have to say, or…

Bay: Well, Buzz, he’s involved in the picture.

In the modern day?

Bay: Yeah. If you can get through his stories while he pitches his books, you know, once you get past the two-hour sales pitch for me to direct this movie. I definitely know they landed on the moon now, because the way that old guy – don’t call him this – but he is a stud of all studs to go up there. I said, because I wanted to know exactly about the Hasselblad cameras. And I said, ‘When you brought back the cameras…’ And he was, ‘Brought back the cameras? We didn’t bring shit back, we had to throw it all out! It’s a junkyard up on the moon. We could barely get off!’ So I knew it was real, just by studying actors. So anyway… It was cool to have him involved.

Can you talk a little bit about how involved were you in cutting that teaser? Was it Paramount marketing?

Bay: We had an idea, what we were going to do. Was I involved? I wasn’t that involved, because I was in the thick of shooting. But now that I’m back, I’ll be much more involved in the teaser aspect and stuff. But I think it’s just good to get the name out there, that we’re coming.

You also mentioned this is an announcement piece, but for most of us, we consider this like a teaser trailer. Why is it so important to you that we call it an announcement piece?

Bay: Because usually a teaser… We’re going to have a couple of teasers. It teases you… It’s just not… Is it exciting? I don’t know. When I look at it, I think it’s cool, but is it exciting? I don’t think it’s exciting.

It’s intriguing…

Bay: What? It’s intriguing. It’s good – it’s doing its job, I think.

Is this movie footage, or is it just for the piece?

Bay: No, it’s movie footage. I mean, when you do effects, we still have “turkey” shots in there. That’s what we call them, because they’ve got a long way to go. But you’ve got to get them to a certain point, you’ve got to get them out on the air.

Are any of those shots what you consider to be final? Or even 80%?

Bay: No…. Well, some of them are, like the one where it’s a helicopter shot, them walking on the Moon? That’s still a turkey shot. Meaning it’s not… The effect isn’t blended enough. The inside of the ship is not blended enough, the character that we find is not a fully done model of that character yet We’re still doing changes and so those shots will change, but I think they’re good enough for use right now.

How did you find the 3D experience? You seem really invigorated right now.

Bay: Well, I’ll tell you about it. We’ll go and have lunch at my place right now and we’ll talk without all of these people watching me talk and make it more intimate with just you guys. Do we have a couple of 3D shots? These aren’t the wow shots of the movie, these are just to give you a tiny little sample of us shooting with 3D and to talk about all those “problems” they say we have on the Internet, right? (Laughs) It actually was a great experience. But what you have to do is hire a lot of 3D experts. Like Cory over here, he’s a 3D expert here. Every shot that you shoot in 3D, it’s not perfectly, perfectly, perfectly aligned, it’s just, as Cory says, it’s from either the stress of the crane bringing the two cameras, because it’s a big metal rig and when you look at it, it needs a lot more tweaking, but it’s good enough. And then what we’re able to do is, you’ve got to massage every 3D shot. Give an example, Cory…

Cory (Bay’s 3D guy): We’ll go in when you shoot it, and we get the plates back and there’ll be a slight vertical adjustment that’ll need to happen, so we’ll just align it vertically so highlights in the eyes sync up. So that when you’re looking at one of the actors’ eyes, it’s comfortable and feels natural. Or we’ll do just a subtle rotation. It’s simple tweaks like that, just to massage the images so that the alignment is most comfortable for the viewer.

Bay: So I think in here there are a couple of effects shots where you’ll see broken comps… I’m three weeks into the edit. This is really early to be bringing people in, and normally I wouldn’t bring people in until, like, next spring. But since I’ve been so quiet on this movie, it’s just good to let you guys have a little peek. You’ll see some broken renderings here, you’ll see some characters that are just starting to be put in, where we haven’t massaged the 3D of how the arms can really work and how you can change the animation and make the arm come further out to you, you can be more aggressive or conservative, at this stage right now, but it just gives you a tiny sense of the… You’ll see, like a dual eye-rendered Bumblebee, but it’s not lit. But you’ll see how full these characters can be, which I think is kinda cool.

(Bay shows us a montage of clips from the entire film)

transformers_movie_image_michael_bayBay: It just shows you a little taste. You see how the 3D can vibrate a little, like the feet, that’s got to be fixed and tweaked and massaged and all that stuff, but…

I definitely have to ask: this is obviously your first time doing a 3D movie and we’re into the beginning of December, you have a July 1st release date. Is there any stress about making that release with adding 3D to the editing?

Bay: Yeah, it’s a whole new animal and so that’s why I’m so tired today because I’ve had a portable Avid system at every residence. I go home from the edit room and I’ll work sometimes until two at night, picking selects, going through, because I’m trying to jump on this movie like a motherfucker. Just for that reason. I’m trying to treat this post, hit it really hard before Christmas so that we can be ahead of the curve. When we average, compared to what our shot count turnover was from the last movie, where we are in terms of cutting time down, we’re well ahead. So I’m putting the pressure on myself so that we can really do pristine 3D. So, but yeah – it’s a new animal, you know. Jim had… There was a lot of figuring out with his movie and he had a lot of time to do it, but the equipment has gotten better since then and I think facilities have learned more.

A lot of times people say it’s up to the director, and how involved they are with the shots…

Bay: Well, the good thing is, we have, if you’re talking for a conversion stuff… We’ll talk about how these studios are rushing through their 3D. There is a right way to do it and a wrong way. I think, personally. If you want to do proper 3D it’s a $30 million price tag. You don’t to admit it, but that’s what it really is to do proper 3D. Studios will sometimes do it or $10 million, or $12 million. $30 million, in terms of the equipment, the crew. That camera equipment is really expensive to rent. And if you want to do dual eye-rendered robots, you got another 30% charge, because you got two eyes now, two different visual effects that have got to be blended. There’s more work on the visual effects shots. Does that make sense? We spent about seven months or eight months before the movie investigating all the conversion companies. We gave each one test footage to do and, like Warner Brothers, I kind of knew that the Harry Potter would fall apart, that was just because they were working with a company that just didn’t have the firepower. This was supposed to come out on Harry Potter 3D, but that obviously didn’t work out, so. When we have lunch, I’ll tell you why I chose to do things the way I did it.

(After watching the teaser trailer for a second time and then the montage of footage from the entire film, we travel to Bay’s office and sit down for some lunch and a lot more conversation)

Bay:  Depth, you can’t really appreciate 3D because you need like 3 or 4 seconds, most people do, to really feel 3D. You can’t really appreciate it when you’re seeing like a quick teaser. Cause the shot is kind of, teaser cut length. But it’s actually changed my style on this movie—I’ve got many more wides, the camera’s not wild. So it does change my style a bit.

So why did you decide to use 3D on Transformers 3?

Bay:  Contrary to opinion, the studio did not force me to do anything. They suggested, “Would you be interested in 3D” and I’m like “huh.” I don’t know, I’ve had (Jeffrey) Katzenberg call me all the time, Jim (Cameron) call me all the time—“You’ve gotta do 3D, you’ve gotta do 3D, you’ve gotta do 3D.” I visited Jim on Avatar and I just saw all the blue screen and the big cameras and I’m like, “This is so not me,” so it’s kinda scary alright? Especially ‘cause I do real world stuff, [as opposed to] the blue screen stage where it’s all air-conditioned, no dust and you can manufacture so much and you’ve got these big rigs that go with the umbilical cord into a lot of this brain power stuff. So we first investigated conversion companies, it took about 5 months of investigation, I mean literally breaking it down. We had them all come pitch to us, how they would do it, and so thought, “Okay, well what if we spent a lot of time on conversion?” You can do really successful conversion, but it just takes a lot of time. And then I kept thinking, “God I’ve gotta try these cameras” and we got Jim’s space, his camera systems out there. And this is really hard for me ‘cause I’m a die-hard film guy, anamorphic old school lenses, and there’s just nothing more beautiful than anamorphic lenses to me. So going digital was like, “umpf”, it’s just kinda crass for me and in close-up it’s terrible—just for me, that’s for my taste. So we brought the camera systems out, and you hear horror stories on all these movies, they would do 20 shots, 10 shots a day, and I usually do 40-50 shots a day, and I’m like “Well this is bad on a, you know, $200 million movie, this is gonna just exponentially increase the shooting days, it’s a disaster.”

So I went out there, with my guys and their guys, we had the Avatar guys—I wanted really seasoned guys, cause it’s like either you work with the best or you’re screwed—I had the same guys that did Avatar and have a lot of experience with that system, but they’d never done what we’ve done. We put it through a rigorous test.  We strapped a camera on a skydiver, you know that doesn’t really happen much. We put it on systems that it’s never been on before. So that day of testing, I was testing with film cameras and 3D cameras, and I was trying to keep the pace and timing. I was pretending like this is a real shoot, and I’m throwing curveballs to them saying “Alright let’s change this lens, do this lens” and I’m trying to time them, seeing how it would affect my day. And they were scrambling a bit, so I’m like “Ugh, it could be a disaster, but maybe we can train them better, I mean it’s first day you know, they gotta set the rigs up the way I like them. But it was fun to put those glasses on and go right around to the TV, it’s kinda cool.” And as Jim told me, finally he says “Mike, we’ve done everything, it’s just a new toy for us” (laughs). And that was when I finally said “Alright, you know what I’m gonna try it.” Originally I was gonna do 4-5 weeks of photography, and the rest we were gonna do conversion. Cause they had done really hard shots from Transformers, we picked our company. We gave ‘em shots that had the dust and the debris and the facial stuff, and some was quite surprising and then I saw some stuff that ILM was doing with dual-eye rendered robots, so it’s two eyes putting it into a plate, and we figured we could be very successful doing that.

Our first day, I kinda secretly told my line producer, “We’re gonna keep that [3D] camera the whole show, the studio just doesn’t know it yet. We’re gonna take our conversion money, we’re gonna put it towards our camera money, so keep that crew the whole show.” I didn’t wanna spill the beans to the studio, you gotta sucker punch ‘em when they least expect it (laughs). You get ‘em invested. And then they came down the first two days, they put the glasses on, and I’m like “hook line and sinker, they’re sold.”

What I decided to do, in terms of my 3D, the only way I was gonna make a 3D schedule—what I did when I did my test is I shot film alongside video. We shot most of my close-ups with faces with anamorphic film, cause that stuff’s easier to convert and it’s just more beautiful than the digital. And then there’s stuff where it’s just not ready for primetime: it can’t really do slow-motion, it can’t be around giant dustballs, I mean you’re dealing with electronics here.

But we were able to put it in so many circumstances that it’s never been in before. The problem is it’s too heavy for certain systems. We put it on the Porche Cayenne…the Porche with the crane on it and it just doesn’t like that when you’re going 60mph, and it’s shut off. We were able to get enough, but it’s not hand-holdable. We’ve got a little handheld one, but the image quality is a little less than what you’re gonna get on the big rig. But we were still able to strap that onto a skydiver, I mean this guy’s goin’ with wingsuits through the city at 150mph in between buildings. I mean you put that thing on his head and it’s a neckbreaker.

I figured the rate of converting stuff is about 30-35% when I average all my native shots to conversion shots. So we think we’ve found a happy medium where we’re able to keep it looking really sharp and make it promising 3D.

How’d the cast like working with 3D?

Bay:  They loved it. Cause you can keep the tape rolling. The actors like it cause you can do take after take and just keep the camera rolling. So you get in a rhythm, which is helpful. It just makes your memory storage go way up and all that.

I actually really enjoyed it. I was very curious how engaging or less engaging a dialogue scene would be. There’s stuff where it’s subtle stuff with Shia talking, and it’s just kinda cool, I mean you see a little thing but you’re still focusing on him. I think it’s good for a third movie. We tried to learn from the second movie. On the second movie we got burned. We had a writers strike, we had to agree on a story in three weeks, and then we knew they were going on strike. It was a fucked scenario all the way around, it wasn’t fair to the writer, it wasn’t fair to me, it wasn’t fair to anybody. It was still an entertaining movie, but I think we failed on certain aspects. What we did with this movie is I think we have a much better script, and we got back to basics. I think there’s some really cool action on this movie, there’s some very cool conspiracy, there’s great robot stuff in this that people were missing in the second one, you’ve got great robot conflict. So I’m excited about this movie.

It’s more serious. I got rid of the dorky comedy, I mean we’ve got two little characters, that’s it, but the dorkiness is not there. Dork-free Transformers. It’s much more serious. It’s still entertaining, it’s big looking. I think it’s much more compelling, what we did, how we funneled our action, what we’ve got our characters doing, they’ve got a lot more to do.

How’s the color-correcting and adjusting play into the 3D?

Bay:  HD is always continually trying to look like film, and it just can’t…When you’re shooting a bright sky, it can’t hold this and that bright sky, it will start to deteriorate quickly. So in certain shots where you’ve got a lot of sky, we started shooting film here and there… there’s times where it’s kinda 2D and it goes back. The stuff when you really feel, is when you’re flying, like in Avatar when those things are flying around, you really feel the 3D. We have moments like that where, this is gonna be our “huge 3D moment, huge 3D moment” you know what I’m saying? You can’t keep it at 10 the whole time.  There’s not a lot of wanky moves, it has to be slower, it has to be more steady, you’ve gotta watch your strobing cause it can’t keep up.

So did you feel constrained?

Bay:  No I actually enjoyed it, I really did. I thought it was a kick.

Did you find yourself thinking about things, or did you have time to think about things on set that sometimes you didn’t feel like you maybe had a chance to in the past?

Bay:  Well I like to shoot 12-hour days. I like to keep them pretty full days…You gotta keep a pace, otherwise it’s dreadful, it’s so boring on a movie set. If you’ve been on a slow movie-set you wanna shoot yourself.

Can you talk a little about the casting of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley and a little about her character and her name.

Bay: I would never hire a model. It wouldn’t cross my mind really to be an actress. I’ve shot plenty of the Victoria’s Secret stuff and they’ve been good clients of mine for years. She was very spunky and she has this cute English accent. She has a great head on her shoulders in terms of smart, intelligent, and well-spoken. And I just said to her “have you ever been interested in being an actress?” and she goes “yea.” She’s had an interesting life growing up, and literally when we were looking for this role there were 500 women that had auditioned around the world. We had casting people from France and London and on and on. And I wrote her an email because she’s always working because she’s a businesswoman, and I said “this might sound a little crazy but this could be a life-changing thing. It doesn’t really happen much, but would you ever be interested in being in this movie?” And she basically was going to turn it down, but somehow she went to the audition and the casting-woman came back with 20 of the top women. We went through, and they were very good actresses, but there was something about replacing Megan; and it was more interesting to go with something brand new and fresh. When it’s brand new it’s kind of a brand new experience for the audience too. And [the casting woman] came in, and she said, “I gotta tell you Michael…this girl can be a star.” So we looked at the tape, and showed Steven [Spielberg] the tape and everyone was really intrigued. We brought her on set with Shia [LaBeouf] and the crew, and we shot with her for six hours. We put her with an acting coach and I kept telling her to be herself. She did really well in the tests and Shia really liked her and she did a really good job. I saw her really improve, and she’s so sweet. It was good; I think it was a good change.

Can you tell us about her character?

Bay:  She was in school, she now lives in Washington D.C. She worked for the English embassy as kind of an assistant. And [Sam Witwicky] has been dumped, and I’m not going to tell you how they meet.

Whats Rosie’s character’s name?

Bay:  Carly.  And [Sam] is living with her, she pays the rent because Sam is looking for his first job.

Is she using an American accent or her English accent?

Bay:  We were embracing the whole English thing. I love her English accent.

What about John Malkovich, his character is a little out there right?

Bay:  He’s Shia’s boss. Its funny, I was talking to Shia and we were talking about character. He’s like, I was the one who saved the world, and I should be set up. And I’m like, Shia, there’s people who do heroic things all over the country, and they’re not set up, they’re back to their mundane life. And he’s like, no; I’d be working for the government. And I said, well let’s just say you’re not working for the government. Let’s just go back to real people. Big seminal moments in life are just getting your first car, going into high school, graduating from high school, going to college and trying to get your first job. Do you remember when we were all terrified at our first jobs? You think your gonna fuck up if you pick the wrong thing. And I said, “Shia, you don’t understand that because you made money as a kid, but people are terrified when they graduate college.” But it’s funny because you have to explain that to someone who has no real concept of that.

Could you talk about where you actually filmed this movie?

Bay:  We’re shooting in Africa, we’re shooting in China, we’re shooting in Washington D.C., Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles. It’s a lot of places. We were going to go to Russia, and it’s still a possibility.

What did your crew say when you said “hey let’s put a 3D camera on a skydiver?”

Bay:  I was worried about the skydiver. These wing suits; for every foot they fall they go two feet. They can slow themselves to about 150 miles per hour, and they’re very nimble, and can literally turn very quick. So I got five guys and we wrote this scene around them. We had them going through the alleys and buildings of Chicago, going around buildings. How did the city allow any of that, I have no idea? I’ve never heard of a city approving anything like that.

How many attempts were there?

Bay:  They jumped over three and a half weekends, and did six jumps a day. But I was more worried about the base-jumping. Each guy has to pull off a different elevation so they don’t crash into each other. And they’re going off the Trump, and in one of the scenes [Sam] is eating his breakfast in his underwear and he sees four guys fall right past his window.

You were filming for a very long time. Was the shooting schedule always that long, or did things change because of the 3D, or because of whatever additions?

Bay:  It was just so ambitious; we had some very ambitious set pieces. For that building thing, it’s not easy to shoot. You have to plan where everyone goes and make sure that they don’t bang into each other. You have to make sure that the furniture in there doesn’t cave in on anyone when you’re tipping the thing. There’s a lot of planning involved.

Would you say that the action set pieces are the biggest of your career?

Bay:  My take on this movie was that I wanted to make the fighting a lot more personal. In the past two movies the cavalry has always came in, this time the cavalry isn’t coming. It’s black hawk down, a small group; they’re fucked. It makes it more intimate. It’s just different.

The government played a large role in the first two movies, now that transformers are out there and everyone knows about them, does the government still play a large role?

Bay:  You feel it but you won’t see it as much. There’s a national security advisor, but we don’t spend a lot of time with that.

With Tyrese [Gibson] and Josh [Duhamel]’s characters, are they still as prevalent in this story as they were in the past installments?

Bay:  Yea, but in different respects now. Tyrese has a different character.

Can you say how many Autobots and Decepticons are on each team now?

Bay:  No, but we have ones that we are highlighting now.

Did you have a favorite new car that you’re going to introduce?

Bay:  I think the Ferrari is interesting. I call him the Dreadbox. I don’t know what the toys are going to be called; I have my own name for these things. They’re pretty cool; they’re Decepticons. We have a new character, an Autobot, who can invent shit and fix stuff.

Will Ferrari have an Italian accent?

Bay:  Yes. And Ferrari will have to approve the voice. They just want it to be not cheesy Italian. They want it to be something that fits the car.

Does this movie seem to bring the story to a close?

Bay:  There’s a couple of things that are left open. I think you’ll see some finality to this, you know we’ve made it very clear that when things die they die now. They’re not magically being brought back.

It’s been an unexpected career ride for you. I know Transformers isn’t something you’ve sprung up to do. It’s been such a large chapter of your career.

Bay:  I got a very nice call from Cameron, he called me after Christmas and he goes, “Mike you know I’ve seen these movies, they’re spectacles in the theaters. You don’t understand these movies until you see them with your kids. I saw them back to back with my kids, this is like Star Wars for these kids.” It’s just kinda cool. It’s a good compliment to get from a guy like that.

Did that sort of reenergize you for the third film?

Bay:  I was energized for the film. I was gonna do my small movie I keep talking about, and the studio just said—the true story is, they took me to Vegas, they wanted to celebrate it breaking $400 million domestic, they gave me a martini, they gave me another one, I don’t really drink two martinis, they go “We’re here to talk to you Mike, we’re fucked if you don’t do Transformers 3 right now” (laughs). The studio guy laid it out, I’m friends with him, he says, “We need a tentpole.” And it’s hard to pull a tentpole for a studio when you’ve got a window of two years or whatever, cause they’re at a point where if they don’t pull it by September, I think we were in August, if they don’t start pullin’ by September or October, it’s hard to get it together for that following year. These guys are under tremendous pressure, so I’m like “Ugh (pause) It’s gonna cost you but yeah” (laughs). Because it’s literally like workin’ 5 solid years, or 6 years. And our economy was so bad, and it’s still so bad. The nice thing about it is that automatically you give 5,000 people that are making toys for that movie job, you give 2,500 people for this movie that are doin’ this, you just give jobs so that’s what’s good about it.

If Paramount takes you to Vegas again, is there a chance that you could do a fourth?

Bay:  I think this has gotta be it. I think someone else will take the torch from here.

Spielberg have a different role this time?

Bay:  Ehren Kruger, who I really liked working with, very smart writer, he cracked the story and he was very open on where we would go and you know I work on images and stuff that I wanna see, action stuff, how we’re gonna make this different. Cause I gotta think, “How are we gonna change this up? How are you gonna take it to the next level? What have we not done in this franchise? How do you make it more personal?” So you talk about everything you don’t like, “I don’t wanna see sand, we’re not gonna see sand in this movie.” And so we just started making a list. And he had a great hook that I loved. And I think that hook came from the studio, cause I think Goodman said, “Bay is fascinated with space.”

By the end of the movie, can you say how much of the conspiracy has been unraveled? Is there enough room to continue to explore that?

Bay:  The nice thing about Transformers is that you’ve got so many stories to tell, you’ve got Cybertron. It’s just that I don’t think you could do it again with Shia and everybody, I think it’s time to move on.





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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W3ZXIFMR6D3B2Q2VSWKXV2ULJ4 Bane Nathos

    OMG that is a fantastic article. As a film student, whether the film is good or no that is a fantastic read and a peak into the mind of Michael Bay. Way to go there!

    • cathy

      We have a new character, an Autobot, who can invent shit and fix stuff.

      Can we say Wheeljack?

      HUZZAH!

  • Dukeofyork

    I am sorry, transformers 2 was an abomination and the first one was entertaining, yes, but so mediocre. I find it hard to believe much has changed for a man who’s only even arguably decent film was Armageddon, which had some of the greatest action stars in it… ever. I am sure the special effects are awesome, that is what he is good at. But I guess its possible he suddenly learned how to direct and found good writers… though again ill believe it when I see it.

    • Sccitylhh

      I think his only decent film to be argued would be The Rock.

  • http://DaftBot.com DaftBot

    So where is this teaser trailer? I mean at the start of the video they said we’d seen it… no I haven’t…

    Also I don’t buy into any of this hype at all. Bay has always had a problem putting together a cohesive story that flowed naturally. So what if you saw footage. footage has NEVER been his problem. He knows how to make things look GREAT! But story telling is what matters. 20 or so minutes of what will probably be a 2 and a half hour movie is nothing.

    • http://www.collider.com/ Steve ‘Frosty’ Weintraub

      I thought it would be online at 9am. just heard it’s 1pm today for the teaser trailer.

  • http://twitter.com/SaadGKhan Saad Ghafoor Khan

    I really love the whole Interview and now really psyched about Transformers 3D and Rosie too… Megan Fox departure was sad and can Rosie take the world by storm like Megan Fox… only Summer will tell.

  • http://twitter.com/SaadGKhan Saad Ghafoor Khan

    I really love the whole Interview and now really psyched about Transformers 3D and Rosie too… Megan Fox departure was sad and can Rosie take the world by storm like Megan Fox… only Summer will tell.

  • Raw

    Did Bay say the running time or what it may be around?

  • Raw

    Did Bay say the running time or what it may be around?

  • Anonymous

    After the first TRANSFORMERS I vowed to never see a Michael Bay film again. Shia Lebouf saying it’s the best one they have ever done really isn’t saying much. So I don’t buy it.
    Nothing short of a 99% tomato rating will make me see this movie. And I know, if I wasn’t a fan then why am I posting. Because I can’t let this garbage go on like it aint garbage.

  • Accesspanel

    Did he say anything about Bad Boys III???

    • http://www.collider.com/ Steve ‘Frosty’ Weintraub

      didn’t come up. my bad. I def should have asked him about it.

    • Duck

      On his website he’s hinted at it being his film for 2015.

      • Accesspanel

        you mean two thousand fifteen?? you mean we’re in the future!

  • Droncz92

    Hmm great interview. I am real curious about this film. I think it will be pretty decent.

  • Sabarth

    This was a really cool interview/report, glad that he admitted that Tran2 was not that good! Am getting excited for #3 now!

    Thanks!

  • Jeff T.

    Awesome!

    I love Bay, and I love all of his films. Really excited for the third TF movie.

  • Malaguy

    Fucking sweet. One of the biggest reasons I continue to support Bay is the fact that the man unabashedly loves what he does. Gotta respect that. I’d trade places with him in a heartbeat & so would most other wanna-be filmmakers.

  • Malaguy

    Fucking sweet. One of the biggest reasons I continue to support Bay is the fact that the man unabashedly loves what he does. Gotta respect that. I’d trade places with him in a heartbeat & so would most other wanna-be filmmakers.

  • Paul

    It’s really a fantastic read, that’s for sure. It’s great that Michael Bay was so open and appreciate of the press.

    But hearing how they’re shooting both full 3-D and post-conversion worries me because I remember how Bay handled IMAX in Transformers 2 (he kept cutting the film the way he always did and randomly cut between 35mm & IMAX, creating a cluster fuck) and the idea of fully effective 3D quickly cutting to Cardboard cutout 3D like the one in Clash of the Titans gives me a headache.

    The man loves making films, that’s for sure. But I’ll believe he make an actual good film when it happens. I got hyped about “The Island” back in 2005 when it was supposed to be his “Adult Sci-Fi movie” and it was anything but (it was awful) so I won’t expect anything out of this but lots of orange & teal color correcting until I read some reviews and feedback.

  • Paul

    It’s really a fantastic read, that’s for sure. It’s great that Michael Bay was so open and appreciate of the press.

    But hearing how they’re shooting both full 3-D and post-conversion worries me because I remember how Bay handled IMAX in Transformers 2 (he kept cutting the film the way he always did and randomly cut between 35mm & IMAX, creating a cluster fuck) and the idea of fully effective 3D quickly cutting to Cardboard cutout 3D like the one in Clash of the Titans gives me a headache.

    The man loves making films, that’s for sure. But I’ll believe he make an actual good film when it happens. I got hyped about “The Island” back in 2005 when it was supposed to be his “Adult Sci-Fi movie” and it was anything but (it was awful) so I won’t expect anything out of this but lots of orange & teal color correcting until I read some reviews and feedback.

  • Silasiscool

    :( , You should of asked him if Starscream was going to be wimpy in this film……

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIQXYAONBCI3T7UYI7LYU3X66I Javier

    Oh, please… “And [Sam Witwicky] has been dumped, and I’m not going to tell you how they meet. “—- WHAT ??
    NO, SERIOUSLY.. WHAT THE HECK ??
    Mikaela Banes dumped Sam Witwicky? What silly dumb stupid nonsense writing is that?
    What is Michael Bay seriously thinking?
    The Rosie topmodel playing Carly was not needed in this movie.
    No Megan Fox was already enough to ruin the movie… BUT .. not even giving some good writing to characters and plot to mantain consistency from the first two movies… how dumb can that be?
    Bay killed the franchise with this. Enough is enough.
    You can’t build up a couple like Sam and Mikaela for the first two movies with so much effort and having the whole plot focused on them in love and then come up with the silly pathetic idea of Mikaela breaking up with Sam like that…
    It’s just plain stupid!
    That is going to kill the movie, it’s just as simple as that.
    Mikaela Banes death would make sense. Mikaela Banes breaking up with Sam Witwicky is the most stupid idea ever seen.
    I can’t believe that Steven Spielberg can’t see the huge mistake they are doing plot and characters wise.
    The movie is going to bomb due to consistency and main characters devolpment completely lacking from the first two movie.
    And they even think that it’s going to be funny for viewers to see that,uh?
    It’s going to be impossible to accept that. The general public loved Sam and Mikaela as a couple, you can’t just come up with the dumb idea of Mikaela breaking up with Sam. WHY? Because IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE ! It’s just plain stupid!

    • Coptimus

      dude WTF is wrong with you, real transformer fans don´t give a ratt´s ass about shia and carly, we care about prime and megatron and how they kick each other´s asses, i am excited to see shockwave have a prominent role, would have liked to see grimlock at least

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIQXYAONBCI3T7UYI7LYU3X66I Javier

        “real transformers fans” who would that be 3 years old geeks or something?
        Transformers movies became a success not thanks to a minority of fanatics but thanks to the general public that loved Spielberg vision combined with Bay action style on the first two movies and loved the Sam and Mikaela couple that Bay used as the main focus of the movies that viewers would relate to. People worldwide loved Transformers robots on screen not just because the CGI was top-notch and realistic BUT thanks to the chemistry of Sam and Mikaela characters portrayed by Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox on screen that interacted perfectly with those CGI characters.
        This movie is going to fail because the Rosie topmodel just doesn’t work on screen at all and the worst thing they could do it’s what they are going to do… get rid of Mikaela Banes character telling that she dumped Sam Witwicky for whatever silly reason that won’t make any damn sense and will just ruin everything that was told to viewers on the first two movies. The only good way to get rid of Mikaela Banes was to show her death.. have her killed by Decepticons… instead they are going with the “she dumped him” thing that just looks pathetic and it’s not funny at all. Such a thing could have worked after the first movie BUT not now. Not after what Bay decided to do with Mikaela Banes character on the second movie. It’s too late for such a silly trick.. it’s bad writing, it’s pathetic and it ruins everything, completely. It kills the trilogy.
        You can’t mess up with the main human couple you created on the first two movies with so much effort and expect that a silly way to get rid of the couple it’s going to work… IT WILL NOT WORK.

      • deculture!

        Hahaha! Javier, this is a joke post, right? It has to be. Nobody could seriously care that much about the humans in a TRANSFORMERS movie. If anything, removing Fox’s obnoxious character from this film will be a breath of fresh air. I never felt true chemistry with that “couple” ONCE in either film. At the end of the day though, this movie is about the Autobots vs. the Decepticons. If you’re looking for a soap opera with some action thrown in, I suggest the Twilight series.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIQXYAONBCI3T7UYI7LYU3X66I Javier

        It’s obvious that you don’t like well written characters and plot. You probably never read an Asimov book either, did you? And you claim to be a sci-fi lover maybe.. yeah..
        If you are so childish that that’s enough to you to get some CGI onscreen then you probably loved Avatar that had so empty plot and characters to not care about.
        If you don’t care about human characters then you obviously didn’t like the first two movies nor any other Michael Bay movie. It’s just that simple.

      • deculture!

        Dude, you HAVE to be trolling now. Are you seriously implying TF 1 and 2 had “well written characters and plot”? Your rant is full of so many absurd assumptions that I’m left scratching my head. For the record, I enjoyed the first Bay Transformers film, despite the fact that it was somewhat empty on plot. And I cared far more for Optimus Prime in the film than any of the human forced stereotypes. The second movie was a crazy train-wreck. And the best Transformers movie to this day remains the original 1986 film. BTW, I’ve read Asimov’s works, yes. I’m not sure what you’re getting at there, nor do I see how it has any relevance. Excellent trolling, though!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIQXYAONBCI3T7UYI7LYU3X66I Javier

        Isaac Asimov just like Ray Bradbury and other top-notch sci-fi writers almost always put human characters and human couples in the plot to allow readers to relate with the world and non-human characters the most, experience the adventure thru their eyes and feelings. That’s the whole point of writing good characters and plot. Transformers2 had some issues but it didn’t fail to give Sam and Mikaela the main focus. Viewers felt what both Sam and Mikaela felt during the movie, they felt Sam being desperate for Optimus death as much as Mikaela being devastated by Sam death. You can’t get rid of Mikaela Banes character just telling viewers “oh well, she decided to break up with Sam Witwicky and so after a while he slept with a topmodel”… That is going to bomb. It’s going to be disliked. Why Spiderman3 despite being a boxoffice success left viewers with a bad taste? Mainly because Peter Parker ended up cheating on Mary Jane despite not being himself due to Venom..but still that didn’t look good plot wise after the first two movies to build up their relationship.
        The only viable option to do it right is showing Mikaela Banes funeral with Sam Witwicky devastated by her death.
        The fact that Bay in the interview is telling otherwise and they are going with the “she dumped him” thing it’s the worst mistake they could have done to deal with the situation when Bay fired Megan Fox.
        It’s just as simple as that.

      • Anonymous

        I agree it would have been better to kill her off but I disagree that it will ruin the movie. The film will rock regardless and perhaps especially since Megan Fox is out of the picture.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIQXYAONBCI3T7UYI7LYU3X66I Javier

        The Rosie topmodel won’t work as a sex bomb to sell the movie to horny teenagers. She is not that pretty, she is barely average despite being a topmodel.. there are way better looking topmodels and actresses out there they could have cast. If they cast Odette Yustman for example they could have retained Mikaela Banes character because she really looks like Megan Fox a lot and people would have accepted the change because the actress is a real sex bomb and quite talented.

      • Jag8519

        Dude, how can you judge her simply based upon pictures? If you are yourself wanting us to not judge you with your incessant ranting. Then you should not be so damned judgmental and drop your preconceived notions. If you like the first 2 films, what the hell gives you any reason that this film will suck? Because they dropped Megan “Lets talk about the boss to his face” Fox? She isn’t that high caliber of an actress. “On my radar she isn’t even a blip, shes a horrible paper-thin actress”. Shia is our Spike, he’s charismatic and funny as hell. I just truly want to see Optimus kick ass like he did in 1 and the beginning of 2 (and VERY end). Good triumph evil. Peter Cullen get his due to us 30-40 year olds who remember him being the badass of all badassery!

    • Dizturbed

      Mikaela dumps Sam for Wheelie. It will work.

    • AKILLIAS

      U HELLA GAY…….WHY WOULD YOU HATE ON SOMETHING SO CREATIVE AND SPECTACULAR…………IAM A 80″S BABY AND HEMAN CONAN THUNDER CATS ALL THE GOOD SHOWS WE GREW UP WITH ARE A THING OF THE PAST THE PEOPLE WHO HAD ANYTHING THING TO DO WITH MAKING THE FILM SHOULD SLAP YOU WITH ONE OF THERE PAYCHECKS….SUKA

    • Fanatic

      Transformers was a phenomenon WAY before Bay got a hold of it. Dude, you’re a douche. Nuff said.

  • Bryan Quilty

    steve, where’d you get that goodfellas shirt?

    • http://www.collider.com/ Steve ‘Frosty’ Weintraub

      urban outfitters in Boston. sale rack. $9.99

      • B24

        Steve, since you watched some footage, do you think Rosie Huntington Whiteley looks better (you now, for horny boys, hotter) than Megan Fox on the movie?. ‘Cause, honestly I like her, and it would be sad if she doesn’t.

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  • Needle

    Look Bay does amazing action sequences and yeah he’s not afraid of criticism which is good thing in my book. The problem I have is that with each movie he does not seem to get any better in fact he gets worse, I mean he keeps saying I’ll make up for this and that but it never shows in his films. To me I think Bay would be much more successful in the Video game industry than in the movie industry. We already know he is good with visual effects and epic action scene’s, he’s just bad a story and pacing with is pretty essential for a good movie. I am myself am not big on critics but I think Bay could learn a thing or two from them and try to make an actual good movie, and not just a big dumb action movie.

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  • Calmontoya

    Well…. this is good stuff right here…. I’m also a disappointed fan (with the second one), but I’m not radical and I understand and believe the problems they had while making the second movie, so, I’m giving the 3rd one a chance…. “I saw the Teaser” and it’s cool…

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  • Sully

    the big heroic autobot moment they were talking about was ironhides death :)

  • Alex

    Really dissapointed Bay didn’t feel constrained on any level working with 3D.
    Not sold in the least by Whitely, but I’m very relieved to hear she’s not acting but instead acting like herself. (she seems quite sweet in interviews)
    Really hope Bay goes to Russia, that was the missing element, those Russians need to be in a Transformers film!
    Still afraid at seeing the next film but also now a little excited. Having hugely lowered expectations and thoughts of seeing the film intoxicated also are comforting.

    ps
    Love those Bay pictures. And I can’t believe Megan dumped him. (Although it’s probably just temporary)

  • Dr. Dino

    so, hopefully less humans, and autobots will actually be the ones to defeat the decepticons

  • http://twitter.com/brandonslagle Brandon Slagle

    VERY nice article…

    • Prime

      Bay talks a lot about the process but for such a large article he reveals surprising little about the movie itself.

      • Bill Graham

        Because he can’t. Those would be spoilers to the vast majority of people. As great as it is to be there and hear and see all these things, it’s a double edged sword because you see and hear stuff out of context that kinda spoil the movie. That’s probably why Bay showed them mostly action set-pieces. Because those moments can be enjoyed out of context and then enjoyed again when you re-watch the film.

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  • Gollum1234

    Haha! I couldn’t help but laughing at this article… “you can tell it has a stronger story than transformers 2″? Wow, that must have been a huge effort, uh? And what about “one of the biggest filmmakers in the world”? Really? Man, they must have treated you really well in that screening, because I cannot believe any movie critic with some self respect would dare say something like that.
    Let’s face it, his previous movies sucked and there is no reason this one won’t too. I am just happy this might be his last Transformers film… because once upon a time I did like the transformers.

    • Bill Graham

      I don’t think Steve would classify himself as a movie critic. Just my two cents there. Additionally, Michael Bay has directed a ton of blockbuster films. Transformers 2 made over $800 million, and Transformers nearly made that.

      In terms of box office draw and how popular he is, calling him one of the biggest directors in the world is completely valid. He’s big. You can’t deny that. Steve never said he was one of the greatest directors in the world. You can take issue when someone claims that.

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  • Drew

    Man you guys make Michael Bay sound like he’s Orson Welles haha

  • Hashi

    sounds like he wined and dined you guys and stroked your egos 101 – but the prior transformers was horrendous i mean it was solid bad – this one really will have to do spectacular and obviously it will make money but I can’t wait until a different director gets his hands on this to see their vision of it – hell the guy who did the CELL would be sick.

  • B24

    At least Rosie’s big lips are natural unlike Fox, who ruined her mouth with the Restlyne injections. And she has a better figure, too.

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  • Felis

    … Wow. Scifi elitist much? I haven’t read Asimov. I barely read any Clarke. So Im not a ‘true’ scifi fan? I guess I get discount points for my original ‘doc’ smith collection.

    Bay isn’t *terrible*. He just doesn’t have an eye for detail and continuity (like sunset passing to dawn in about 10 minutes in Bad Boys, among other bloopers) or a good sense of how the scenes should be paced. But I’m willing to give him another chance.

    If he fails, we burn him in a wicker man, and contract Joss Whedon andAlex Proyas instead :P

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  • Legendary Man

    Thankyou so much Frosty and Mr Beaks that was “the S**t” guys. Youse have done a fantastic job.
    There are so many other web sites where the dude’s dont even put in 1% of the hard work and effort you put in.

  • nizzy

    i tried to watch this clip, but these guys are on bay’s crotch so hard it’s hard to listen to it.

    it’s about 98% bragging and NO information.

    waste of time

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  • Ken

    Wow, some of you guys are quite the jackass! I’d like to see you make your own movie and see how well it does, idiots! Anyway- I’m stoked and happy M. Bay gave all of us this insight on how he works and what to look forward too come July.

    • Cujo1234

      Dude, seriously? What kind of stupid logic is that? Yes, it is possible that I would do a bad movie, but guess what? I am NOT a filmmaker… By your premise, I shouldn’t complain when my car breaks down because well, I couldn’t build a better car by myself… or I shouldn’t protest about a president sending us to war, because I probably wouldn’t lead the nation better, right?
      We are consumers and we have all the right to call crap by its name, because it is the way we are supposed to get a better product. And, yes, Michael Bay’s transformers is crap, must likely the new one will be, and I hope it is a BIG commercial disappointment so that this studio never ever let this happen again.

  • Steve

    Good Q + A that made for an interesting read. Long and boring video (try adding clips or footage, anything besides a straight shot of two guys talking at me)… Lastly, please PROOFREAD your article before you publish! There were at least 4-5 typos and I only read <1/2 of the page.

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  • sandy

    ha ha mikaela dumped sam!

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  • Jason

    None of this makes me excited for the movie. Javier ranting about the wonderful human characters is hilarious though. In a movie about robots, I could care less about Sam and Mikaela. They were the worst part of the movies…well asides from the ridiculously busy design of the robots. Half the time I can’t even tell what’s going on in the action scenes because it’s just a big mess of mechanical bits swirling around. And the total lack of commitment to the original characters is just mind blowing. I mean the teaser for this new movie has a big reveal of some generic looking transformer. Am I supposed to be excited that some anonymous bland character is being shown? I have no idea who that is supposed to be, and that’s not a good thing. It’s not making me wonder who it might be, but rather why they would design the characters to be so unrecognizable.

    And at one point Bay even claims to have “invented” a new character that can fix stuff…as someone else pointed out, that’s Wheeljack! Will it actually be Wheeljack in the movie? Will that character have any semblance of the original character? Doubtful. And he just makes up a name for the Ferrari, and doesn’t actually know what it’s called?

    I’ll give Bay credit for being passionate. But that doesn’t make the movies any better because of it. I don’t care about the human characters in a movie about robots any more than I cared about the human characters in the Aliens vs Predator movies. I don’t care if they visited every location on earth. I don’t care if it’s in 3D. A visual mess on screen is not made better by 3D technology. I don’t care if he’s taking out the “dorky humor” and calling it the best one yet. He’s already set the bar pretty low, so making the best one yet isn’t a difficult feat to manage. And despite them earning truck loads of money, the fact of the matter is they’re crappy movies. I still can’t believe how bad the second one is. Based purely on that crap, I can’t really bring myself to see this one. Maybe one day I’ll Netflix it, and watch it with a large bottle of alcohol nearby. But there’s no way I’m paying money to see this crap in the theater again, much less pony up the extra money for 3D.

  • Jason

    Don’t care about the humans. Don’t care that it’s in 3D. Don’t care that it’s filmed in a zillion locations. I don’t care that he thinks it’s the best of the three (seriously, the bar has been set so low, that’s not really an achievement). He didn’t invent a character that fixes shit. That’s Wheeljack. But in the movie, if they even call it Wheeljack, it won’t be recognizable from the original design. If he can’t even be bothered to learn the name of the Ferrari transformer, then this obviously isn’t any great step up from what he’s previously crapped out. Despite making truckloads of money, the original movies were really shitty. I still can’t believe how bad the second one was. It was Last Airbender bad. And based entirely on how utterly bad that was, I can’t bring myself to pay money for this crap a third time. Much less pony up the extra for 3D. I’ll wait for Netflix when I can have a bottle of strong alcohol nearby to help me through it.

  • DJ

    Every Transformers movie = absolute steaming doo-doo.

    Amazed talentless can make so much money directing horrible movies, and jealous.

    And get out of Bay’s ass “He’s going out with a huge homerun”.

    Yeahhhh … so this last Transformers is going to be a rival to Casablanca is it? No — it will be HORRIBLE CHEESE just like all the others!

  • Marek

    I’m sorry, English Embassy? What the hell is that, is that like the Texan Embassy?

  • Andre

    Talk talk and more talk… It seems that there is a group that is opposed to the replacement actress and the others that dispised the 2nd movie and may elect to sit this one out. Me, I’m in neither camp as I will always be a transformer fan regardless of who the new love interest is. The transformers themselves are main attraction. Sure part two was a little overwhelming, but after revisiting the animated movie from the ’80′s, the 2nd one wasn’t too over the top. But, that’s where we stand. We are all awaiting the new effort from Micheal Bay and hope that the new technology doesn’t detract from the overall presentation. As for the interview, I feel “Mr. Beaks” was a little too bias regarding Trans’ 2. Ok, I got it you didn’t like it, but guess what? I did. I have watched pt. 2 more than pt 1. As for interviewer No. 2, just one word, BREATHE!! Wow, I am stoked when I run into a celebrity, and would probably be excited too, but compose yourself. I am not a 20 something trying to feel the vibe, I was 20 something when Transformers took off like hot cakes. so for a few of us we have watched the tv show and have seen the animated movie, so to see this degree of effort come to life, so to speak, deserves recognition. Hell this series has opened the door, technically speaking for a lot of new productions. Perhaps Ironman may not have been as good if the transforming technology wasn’t as sharp as it is now. For some of you who may have never seen or heard of “Gunhed” ( a japanese live-action manga story) could appreciate todays’ abilities. I won’t suck on MB’s jock like the bald guy did, but I will say that I look forward to seeing his lastest effort… ’nuff said.

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  • saltymcdoogler

    guess what?? I’m gonna go see it, and none of you can stop me!!!

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  • Jane

    In my opinion, from the looks of everything, Transformers Dark of the Moon will be a spectacular movie. Hopefully with a more in depth view of the Autobots and Decepticons. I have heard a lot of rumors and from them my biggest question is: Is Michael Bay going to kill off Bumblebee? All the fans, well at least most of them, love the character Bumblebee. And while it would make a heart wrenching sight if Bumblebee died, it would piss off a lot of fans, and the closure provided wouldn’t be enough. I, personally, would be extremely sad if that were to happen. My friends and I would probably walk out the theater with a solemn expression. Anyway, Dark of the Moon looks really promising, I will probably watch it the week after it comes out. (The first week is always crowded)

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  • Chris Richardson

    If Michael Bay cared about Transformers. He’d stop making these movies! The man doesn’t know SQUAT about the history of Transformers! I hope he reads this!
    Michael Bay…. you SUCK!!!!

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  • Frank Mondana

    Unless Bay went back to school, the line “the one thing you’ve got to give him is he knows how to frame his action scenes” would only be written by a fan smitten by him.
    Without picking apart all of Bay’s films, let’s take a peek at Transformers 2. Let’s only talk composition. Let’s just talk the final battle scene.
    Most of the shots were 3/4 of a second long and had 4-5 figures shooting a hundred different types of munitions in a hundred different directions while they each had thousands of parts moving and changing. Add in all the explosions and soldiers and what you’re left with is a mess. Even my 10 year old son who can name every Transformer ever shown in the movies, cartoons and comics had trouble figuring out what hell was going on.

    If Bay loses the ADD, simplifies the CGI ‘bots and frames the action shots intelligently, he might have a movie worth watching.

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  • Kidperson

    I think Javiers half right. Transformers 3 will be awesome. But they should have killed mikela in the movie than have them break up. Cause they had so much love in the first and second. They’ve been through so much together so…what would they breakup for? In the 2nd movie Mikela says “Sam I love you and I need you…” so now what? She doesn’t love him? They should have killed her off and had Sam (in T3) look at a picture of them together and say. “I miss her, I wish there was some way I could’ve saved her” or something like that. Like she was killed by a decepticon. It won’t affect him as much because its years later since it happened. Like 4 year time skip. Isn’t Sam getting a job now? He would have to finish 6 or 4 years of college to get over her death and move on. And then it would have been cool since Carly was kidnapped it could have made Sam absolutley devestated even more because he lost Mikela. Making his love for Carley even more deep because Mikela is gone.

    That would have been a better plot for me. And I would’ve given T3 100% instead of 90%. Mikela and Sams breakup didn’t work for me. To make a great story you have to have good character development than action. If it was just a story without character development and just action, then it would be boring and just a show about robots killing eachother with no heart.

    Micheal Bay, you disapoint me alittle.

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