But before jumping into the interview, hereâs
Anyway, the interview youâre about to read was done at the end of September when I got to visit the Pixar campus in
But as you might imagine, going to Pixar was like visiting Santaâs workshop. Everyone there seemed in great spirits and I got the sense they all know how special it is to work there. We got to see the entire campus, we took a tour of the indoor facilities, and we got to watch an amazing Ben Burtt presentation on how he made the sounds of âWall-eâ. I actually posted a video of the presentation so if you missed it
Anyhow, about the interview with Jim Morris and Lindsey Collinsâ¦
And one last thing before the interview. While I promote a lot of movies on Collider, âWall-eâ is one of those films thatâs so good that you really have to see it. I know you hear that all the timeâ¦.but this one is another level of awesome. Seriously. One of the best films this year. Go buy it tomorrow when it gets released on home videoâ¦
Look for Pixar stuff later tonight.
Question: Since weâre here for home video stuff, Iâll just start with what was the process like bringing âWall-eâ to Blu-ray, DVD, and did you feel likeâ¦because the short release span between theatrical and Blu-ray makes it difficult with time. Were there things you wanted to put on that you ran out of time on? Could you talk about what fans can look forward to?
Jim: Well first of all, the really cool thing about the Blu-ray is that everybody can see the film in almost the full resolution it was originally made, so weâre actually amazed when we watch it and say oh, yeah. Look at that detail we paid for to put into that movie. But thereâs a bunch of other things on the Blu-ray in particular. Thereâs a feature that I think Cin-explore?
Lindsay: Cinamexplore.
Jim: Cinamexplore which is something thatâ¦just a name Disneyâs using for a particular thing that is kind of like the hot-rodded narration track by the director or others where in addition to hearing the comments and so forth about the film and the thoughts of the director, youâre able to pull up images that relate to that. So if theyâre talking about a design problem with a particular scene, concept art can pop up and you can kind of get a view into that process and so forth. So for the people that are cinema buffs and so forth, I think itâs really cool stuff and Iâm one of those people. The other thing I like about the Blu-ray is the capacity for games on it. And particularly on âWall-eâ we have Pong in âWall-eâ. Thereâs a little scene in the film. So a lot of us were inspired by those games in our younger years and thereâs a lot of kind of 8-bit game looking stuff. I think thereâs whatâ¦3 games that we had?
Lindsay: Four, I think.
Jim: Four? Theyâre very reminiscent of Frogger.
Lindsay: Like âWall-eâsâ version of Donkey Kong.
Jim: Donkey Kong and so forth. So theyâre actuallyâ¦
Lindsay: Theyâre games we can play, thatâs why we like them.
Jim: Theyâre simple enough when I try toâ¦
Lindsay: I get this one. This one I know how to do, yeah.
Jim: So those were a couple of the things that I liked about the Blu-ray.
Lindsay: But to answer your question, yes itâs really difficult given the release slate of how quickly these things can come out and how long they take to get done. We literally have to deliver the DVD material and the Blu-ray material on the day the movie releases. Itâs like literally that tight, so I mean you have Andrew, for instance, who was up doing post at Skywalker on the film who while they were mixing, before they were ready to play it back for him, was in another room recording commentary for the DVD, so itâs crazy. Theyâre right on top of each other.
Jim: Theyâre basically for all practical purposes delivered at the same time.
Lindsay: In a way itâs still fresh which is good. I mean you actually get to capitalize off of a production team and then a creative team thatâs still at that high powered gear. I mean we havenât ramped down and have to ramp back up for the DVD, so you get to capitalize on that but it is a tight, tight schedule.
Did you choose the extras for the Blu-ray? Did you have to plan it?
Lindsay: Yeah we have a whole team actually.
Jim: We have a producer here who runs a team and starting about a year from when we complete the filmâeven before thenâwe start talking about potential features and bonus material and things so we can start collecting or creating them if they need to be and itâs a production. I mean, itâs a little mini-production underneath the production.
Lindsay: Itâs funny, itâs like they were sending out mail to our team like fun facts. Like can you guys think of anything thatâs fun? Theyâre like thereâs nothing fun right now! Nothingâs fun! And theyâre like okay weâll ask again in a couple weeks. Just keep it in mind.
Jim: Weâll come back.
Youâre planning those at the same time youâre producing right?
Jim: Thereâs no way around it now you know because the time horizonâs so short between whenâ¦.well when the material has to be submitted. I mean itâs several months after when the DVDâs or the Blu-ray come out but it takes them awhile to do the mastering and the authoring stuff they have to do.
Thereâs other Pixar movies that have yet to be released on Blu-ray, and for fans, when can they look forward to seeing âThe Incrediblesâ or âFinding Nemoâ?
Lindsay: Soon. Theyâre working on it.
Jim: Theyâve got a timeline for putting those together and Iâm not holding back anything, I donât know specifically.
Lindsay: There are dates and schedules and release that theyâre wanting to just as much as you guys, weâre wanting to get them onto DVD.
Jim: And creatively I know theyâve presented at least several of those to John Lasseter and others hereâthe original directors to kind of go over additional features and so forth that the Blu-ray would have, so all of that stuff is in the works. You know, Disney, aside from our desire to have Blu-rayâs out there to be kind of the record that people have of the movie because it does have such a better viewing experience and so forth. Disney and other companies of course now are trying to get more toe hold with Blu-ray out there. So theyâre anxious to bring these titles out and give people an extra motivation for getting into the Blu-ray and Hi-Def world.
Is the Blu-ray release going to be 3-discs? Is there a 3-disc special edition and if so what�
Lindsay: I think itâs 2 disc isnât it?
Jim: Itâs 2 discs I think.
Is there any interactive stuff on there?
Lindsay: Yes. BD-Live. Weâre as intrigued by BD-Live as you guys are in the sense that I think this is our first title that has it and so we havenât actually had a chance to mess with it yet because we donât have the DVD yet, but weâre been hearingâ¦.theyâve been talking to us about kind of what the capabilities are and it sounds pretty cool that you can actually schedule kind of viewing parties with your friends from around the globe and sync it up and then chat with each other about it and send mail and all that kind of stuff, so it seems like a pretty cool thing.
Jim: Yeah, but I fear it. I just feel itâll be another black hole you get sucked into like all our other communication devices. No, itâs good especially for people who are into movies and have friends and families in kind of remote locations and can kind of share those experiences.
Lindsay: Sync it up to Darkside of the Moon and turn off the audio track. Actually one of the cool things apparently is youâll be able to download actually is a sound-effects only track eventually which is a Ben Burtt track only and if you do BD-Live you can download it onto your player and just play it that way.
Jim: And they can continue to add those features to it. Thatâs sort of the thing, I guess you get to become a member for life or something.
Lindsay: Yeah, pretty soon youâll have the cafeteria staff. Itâs like hi, Iâm here to talk to you about my contributions in âWall-eâ like downloaded about a year from now. Everybody will have their track.
You guys, being the producers of the film, certain producers in the
will be multi-tasking and working on 5 different projects. Are you guys, you know, day to day on one project at a time.
Lindsay: Jim is, thatâs just because he has another job.
Jim: Well, yeah. I was in particular on this film because I was overseeing the other films as well as a production executive. But we are also helping Andrew with his future projectsâLindsay isâand you know thereâs at Pixarâ¦Lindsay jumps in on other peopleâs projects to help out and I oversee other projects and then weâve got our projects so to speak that weâre working on. So thereâs a lot of stuff always kind of going on and Lindsayâs helping out with a couple projects that are in production or going into production here as well. So thereâs always a lot of stuff on the plate.
Lindsay: Only because people that are going to be working on them are busy working on other things, I mean you know itâs a collaborative to the nth degree. I mean, itâs literally like whoâs got a second? You know?
Is a lot of it just because these take so long to come out and to actually make these things like 3 or 4 years?
Lindsay: Yeah, because these guys just keep wanting to do more and more, you know. I mean itâs like we have more and more stuff going on. I mean we have theme park stuff happening. We have DVD stuff happening.
Jim: We have a movie a year to begin with but when you think about what that means is something you have a movie a year and then a DVD a year and a Blu-ray a year for that, oh yeah and then thereâs the library stuff that we need to start working on and thereâs theme park stuff and thereâs little other types of short films that weâre making and promo stuff. Weâve made a whole lot of little sort of short vignettes of âWall-eâ and some of the other characters that were used to promote the film. Oh, theyâre on the DVD and Blu-ray as well. Thereâs just a whole bunch of stuff going on so we try to load balance as best we can.
I love a lot of the shorts, too. Has there been any talk about turning any of those into full-length like Lifted or any of those?
Jim: Iâm trying to think. None of the ones at the moment have been talked about. You know, they tend to be more of a launching platform for the directorâs who make those to go on and pitch other ideas. I canât think of any that have that. Itâs certainly a possibility.
Yesterday there was an announcement that âCars 2â bumped up a year. How does that impact everyone at Pixar when you all of a sudden changed a year?
Lindsay: Itâs fun.
Jim: We drink a lot more.
Lindsay: It was really early. I mean the nice thing is because these take a while to make that there are several shows right now that are in that really early stage of getting the story together and developing and stuff like that and getting the script and showing their first set of reels or something. It allowsâ¦especially at that point, thatâs really our only time for flexibility. Kind of once you start really getting into the production pace itâs like youâre basically running for the finish line, so at that stage I think âCars 2â and Garyâs project, itâs like one of those like okay, who feels ready to go on âCars 2â? And theyâre like weâre ready, weâre gone. Letâs do it.
Jim: We have a number of projects that are sort of in development phase and as they move along one will creep ahead of another, you know, just kind of naturally in terms of where they feel their story is and that sort of thing, so a couple of the movies in that group were Newt and Cars 2 and they basically just inverted their release dates but in a way the impact is not all that great on the studio because we were already planning to be making a movie at that point in time.
Lindsay: And the crews are so small right now that itâs just a matter of who do you stack up first.
Jim: Yeah, whoâs lookingâ¦because these moviesâone of the things we do here is try to take the time to make sure the movieâs what it should be and some of them fall into place quickly and others like âWall-eâ for example, you know, as kicking around for years until it actually got the right shape and we really greenlit it and moved it forward.
Lindsay: And also to be honest, one of the hardest things about writing these stories is coming up with the characters and making sure theyâre lovable in designing them and itâs something that a sequel has, you know, advantage over an original film is that you actually know the characters, at least the main onesâ¦and the universe youâre in so it actually takesâ¦.so much of whatâs difficult about that first year- year and a half is fine-tuning that and figuring out what the look of your film is and howâ¦
Jim: What the rules of your universe are and those kinds of things.
Lindsay: It allows themâ¦it gets them a little further ahead.
When are you writing the sequel then for âFinding Nemoâ? Does it have a sequel?
Jim: You know whether we make a sequel or not here is really in the hands of the film makers and Andrew, who made âFinding Nemoâ originally had other ideas he wanted to do and was not as anxious to move into doing sequels. Although he has been a key player in terms of the âToy Storyâ sequels. John Lasseter, by comparison, once he sort of creates a universe, he loves the idea of exploring more and doing more with those characters, so Cars is sort of his movie. Heâs not directing this film but heâs playing a heavy creative directing role in it. Brad Lewis is actually the director of the movie and Lee Unkrich is doing âToy Storyâ but John likes to sort of extend the storytelling within those worlds. Andrew likes to explore new ideas so we get this differentâ¦the sameâs true with Pete Doctor who made âMonsters Incâ. Heâ¦and there will probably be because heâs receptive to doing a sequel to that at some point, but he really wanted to do this movie âUpâ which comes out next summer. Different movie and he has another original one after that. So some of itâs the artistâs temperament and whether they want to stay and explore one world or whether they want to try some new places out.
I was going to ask provided the gestation period for each film and each projectâthis might seem a little granious but are there things that you notice as producers about the evolution of Pixar or are you kind of really immersed in process for the singular project at the time?
Lindsay: You know itâs funny because itâs a studio thatâs so close knit and itâs got thank God such a great reputation and everybody thinks like oh, these are Pixar films and stuff. Thatâs all true. I think that the flip side of that is that we have these great directors here and itâs more like tâs like Andrew Stanton has his films and Pete Doctor has his films and John Lassiter has his films and those seem to feel similar one to the next. You see an evolution if you will as a director, I think, more than you necessarily as a studio because I think they come from such a diverse kind of places with different ideas and different stories they want to tell and you have new ones coming up and more experienced ones that people ask if thereâs sort of a global evolution of Pixar and I donât think so. I donât think thatâs ever been the goal nor do I think itâs actually what the reality is. I think the reality is more that you see evolutions of filmmakers here both new ones coming up through the ranks and ones that are kind of doing 2, 3, 4 films here at Pixar and you kind of can track that better than you can necessarily can track an evolution for Pixar as a whole.
Thereâs been a lot of talk about you guys retro-fitting older movies like âToy Storyâ and âToy Story 2â into 3D. And I wanted to know if youâve seen any of the footage and what does it look like?
Jim: I have. It looks great and one of the reasons it looks great is actually our renderers are much better now than when we made the movieâs originally, so they actually have a higher level of detail to them and so forth. Just the shaders and the way they render. Look, those movies werenât originally 3D movies, of course, so to an extent weâre taking the opportunity of 3D to get them back out in theatres so people can see them and so forth. So in those particular movies weâre not exploring the aesthetic challenges of 3D or anything. Weâre makingâ¦weâre sort of dimentionalizing those movies so theyâre entertaining.
I have to ask you, George Lucas is famous for going in and completely changing and fixing things.
Jim: Not a thing. Weâre not changing a thing in the movies. Weâre not changing the timing, story, pacing, the shots, anything and so what weâre doing is going in an making a 3D version because you can set the conversions and the ocular offset and there are a number of things in making a 3D version. Weâre doing it that completely preserves the original movie in terms of everything about the story. Thereâs no new shots. Thereâs no new nothing. Itâs exactly the same movie you saw before.
If I can ask one more thing? IMAX became a big thing after âThe Dark Knightâ this summer and really revolutionized what cinema going can be. Is there any thoughts at Pixar to incorporating the IMAX format into your movies, 3D all that other stuff in the future?
Jim: Well, weâve always talked about doing an IMAX stuff and never had it come quite to fruition. Weâve havenât found the right thing. Weâre not specifically talking about an IMAX release at this point in time but we would certainly agree with you that âThe Dark Knightâ stuff was reallyâ¦great and innovative in that direction. 3D, you know âUPâ is coming out as our first 3D film and is the first one to try to make I guess Iâd say more aesthetic use of the stereo as opposed toâ¦
Lindsay: And âToy Story 3â.
Jim: Yeah and âToy Story 3â.
So âToy Story 3â is definitely 3D?
Jim: Oh yeah.
Lindsay: Both. I mean âToy Story 1â and â2â are being re-released only in 3D. But âToy Story 3â is being released both in standard def and 3D.
Jim: Unless there happened to be 6,000 screens by that time.