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Jeanne I enjoyed meeting you in
Randy Yes. We liked
Jeanne Really? Did you find anybody special there?
Randy Letâs see, special is a very big word.
Jeanne You did mention when you were here that youkind of missed the fact that there werenât that many Latin pop artist from thisAztec country, was your quote. I wasjust wondering is there anybody in your mind though that has stood out from
Randy Yes. I think there were somereally good people in
Jeanne So we have some hope, huh?
Randy There is hope for
Jeanne Could you tell me, since we were one of theaudition cities, is there an order of audition shows from each city, so I canjust tell them, âMake sure you tune in pronto.â?
Randy That I wouldnât know actually. I donât know. Youâd probably haveto check with Fox to find out that or check with the publicist or something.
Jeanne Is there anything thatâs different about theshow ... just a little tweak of it?
Randy Simon is going to die his hair red.
Jeanne And youâre going to dress in lime green.
Randy No. I think now, since I was going to do the Jedi think like GnarlsBarclay I think Iâm going to do something different. I think Iâm going to come in scrubs. Iâm the new McDreamy.
Jeanne You certainly look alike. Randy, one more thing: What did you think of
Randy I actually loved it. Iâvebeen there a bunch of times over the years. A really, really cool place. Iâm a Spurs fan.
Jeanne All right. Even over LA?
Randy No, not over LA. Comeon. The Lakers rule, lady.
Jeanne I appreciate it, Randy. Thank you.
Moderator Thank you. Next we have Kelly Jane Cotter with TheAsbury Park Press.
Kelly I wanted to know what you thought thecontestants have learned from each other over the years and whether theendurance of the show makes them a little bit more savvy and a little bit moreprepared or whether they still come in like newborn lambs and very raw.
Randy Itâs funny you say that because every season I think they get alittle bit more savvy. I think thatâswhat I was saying earlier to someone is that, but somehow the people from thesouth still keep it honest and real and the
Kelly Right.
Randy I think we see a lot of that happening, I think,unfortunately. There is a lot of goodinformation given by us three judges on the show and I think people should takethat more to heed and listen to more of what we have to say in our comments tothe kids. Theyâll learn way more fromthat than anything, whether theyâre on the show or not.
Kelly Whatâs the advice that people most ignorethat you wish they wouldnât?
Randy Song choice, song choice, song choice. Understand who you are, because what you tellme as a judge when you sing a song thatâs way too big for you, you tell me youhave no idea how good you are and what you sing best, so you just told me youhave no idea what youâre doing. Iâmgoing to imagine that almost every time youâre going to pick the wrong song foryou. Do you know what I mean?
Kelly Yes. Thank you very much.
Mari Randy, I want to come back to the badsingers for just a second. Thatâs been amainstay, but when I spoke with Nigel and Ken they said that they were kind oftrying to rid the show of the riffraff, so where are you guys drawing the line?
Randy I think youâre still going to get some of that through because wesee a cross section of everyone and itâs hard to just stamp that completelyout, but I think if someone walks in the door and theyâre in this weirdcostume there was the gondolier one season in Vegas you just go, âOkay, doyou believe that you really have talent or are you here just for the buffooneryof it all?â Do you know what Imean? I think weâre trying to draw theline somewhat there. Do you know whatIâm saying?
Mari Yes.
Randy If you come dressed as a tin man Iâm going to go, âYouâre not asinger.â
Mari You think?
Randy Yes.
Mari I wanted to ask you about the concerns toothat you may or may not have. Youâve gotthis song competition going on at the same time, so how do you feel aboutthat? What do you think it will do interms of possibly diminishing the impact of the actual competition?
Randy Right. I donât know if itwill diminish the impact or whatever. Ithink great songs are still hard to find. I wish everyone luck in either writing or whoever is going to submit outthere or whatever. I think itâs really,really hard. I mean Iâm a songwritermyself, so I know how hard it really, really is.
Mari Lastly, I wanted to ask you. Last night Youâre the One That I Wantpremiered.
Randy What show is that?
Mari Yes, right.
Randy No, what show is that?
Mari Seriously? Itâs the competition show for Grease where ...
Randy Do you mean another kind of copy Idol show? Wow! Another one.
Mari Yes. Well, I was going to ask you about that because, coincidentally, thereare three judges, including a snotty English man.
Randy You must be kidding. Comeon.
Mari No.
Randy Isnât it funny? See, thisshows you thereâs not a lot of originality, is there?
Mari No, not really, but Iâm wondering how youfeel when you hear about it? I mean itdidnât do great last night, but it didnât go bad either.
Randy Hereâs what I said earlier to someone. I really honestly mean this. Me, being a musician and being a recordproducer and a songwriter and everything that I do and being up for ... Grammysthis year, thank God, for two records that I made, hereâs the deal: If youâre the first and youâre original you.... The copies, as there get to be two,three, four, five, six, seven of them, will never be as well. I mean it just never really quite works tome. Thatâs just to me. If I were doing a show, I definitely wouldnâthave three judges and have an English guy and have it be just like Idol. I just donât know. It just tells me that I guess a lot ofnetworks donât have a lot of originality.
Mari Yes. What are you going to be doing Grammy night?
Randy Iâm going to be praying and hoping that the song that I did withSam Moore and the late, great Billy Preston, and Eric Clapton, and Zuccherowins. Iâm also going to be praying thatthe song I did with Van Hunt, Josh Stone, and Josh Legend wins.
Mari And youâre going to vote for yourself,right?
Randy And Iâm voting for myself, man.
Mari Atta guy. Thank you very much.
Janice Randy, as you know,
Randy Well, listen, I mean I think that area has definitely done
Janice I wanted to ask you if you will give thisopinion: Of all of the people who havebeen on the show, winners or not, do you have a favorite?
Randy I think what comes to mind really quickly is my two favoritesprobably hands down are Kelly Clarkson and Fantasia.
Janice Yes. Are you in touch with either one of them?
Randy I see Kelly from time to time and I see Fantasia from time totime. She sang a duet on the Sam Moorealbum that I produced about six months ago. Yes, I see them quite often. Isee all of them quite often. Those twogirlsâ voices are just amazing and Iâm really pleased and happy whatâs happenedwith Jennifer Hudson and how sheâs kept her career and her life going and howsheâs blossoming now. I think itâsgreat.
Janice One more thing: If you could have been in charge, rather thanthe voting audience, is there any winner you would have changed?
Randy No. I think the public hasgotten it right every time. I believe in
Janice Thank you so much, Randy.
Amy I was going to ask you: There were lots of records that came out oflast season and now Paris Bennett debuted her first single off her new recordlast week on Twin Cities Radio. I wasjust wondering if youâve heard her record or what do you think of her futureand the rest of all of the records that came out of last season.
Randy I think that sheâs got a bright future. I mean
Amy Whoâs record do you think has been the bestso far?
Randy Listen, all youâve got to do is you can look at the past idols andyou can tell whoâs done the best. KellyClarksonâs done the best hands down. Imean her last record sold ten million copies. What that says to me is that she hit her public square on the bulls eye,so people believed her. They loved thesongs. She had great songs. I think that song âBreakawayâ is a careerrecord. I think âBreakawayâ is the bestsong ever recorded by any idol to date on any record.
Amy Really? Cool.
Randy To date. That song is acareer record. That song is a truecopyright in the words of Clive Davis, who is always telling me aboutcopyrights. There are very fewcopyrights and that song is a real copyright. Kelly has definitely done her thing.
Amy Right. My last question for you is when the Twin Cities watches the
Randy I think it will be a balanced, Zen-like scale. The ying and yang will go back and forth. As many links as you have, you have that manyemotions.
Amy Good. Good. Thank you.
Lorilee Randy, I wanted to know, thereâs been a lotof talk on this call about Jennifer Hudson with Jennifer and with other idolswhat does it mean to you personally when someone kind of unsung like thattotally rises to the top and just goes for it? What does that mean to you personally?
Randy It makes me very, very happy because I think that, listen, shedefinitely is really talented. It showsme that sheâs got the perseverance to keep going and keep fighting for herdream. I mean, listen, itâs true ifyouâve got the talent and you keep your nose to the grind, one day, somewhereitâs going to happen for you. Iâm justso happy and sheâs proof that it can still happen, whether you win or not.
Lorilee Yes. Ithink everyone is really proud of her, everyone who voted for her and rootedfor her. What quality do you think yousaw in her that made you pick her for the wildcard?
Randy I think that sheâs a really, really naturally talented girl. I think for me it was just tough thatseason. We knew we had those three girlsthat were amazing singers. We had ourown Dream Girls. We had LaToya, who was great, and Fantasia, whoâsamazing.
Lorilee Yes.
Randy So we knew that one of those was going to last the time. I think after Fantasia did âSummertimeâ itwas all a wrap after that because she just blew the doors off and she was likea young, new Aretha, but the thing to me thatâs really interesting that no onehas asked on the call is, Iâll tell you what, whoever cast Jennifer Hudson inthat role for the film is an absolute genius. Those people know what theyâre doing because itâs the perfect, and Imean perfect, role for her. She is aBaptist church girl in a Baptist church girlâs role in a movie. She acted amazingly. It was like, âOh, my God. Talk about perfect pairing.â
Lorilee Like a glove fit.
Randy Oh, my God. Thatâs why itâsso great, because itâs exactly who she is.
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Kira Randy, I canât ask about anybody from thisarea because I donât think youâve been here yet to good, old, central PA. I think Iâm going to take it back to the lesstalented people, shall we say. Do youfind that you get sort of less of that these days or does it seem to always bea consistent?
Randy No. Listen, I think you havea great competition that you can become a celebrity overnight and get a hugerecord contract and become very rich and famous fast. I think youâre going to get a lot of peopleshowing up. You get the good and the badof it always. I mean the scaledefinitely tips both directions. Do youknow what I mean?
Kira Iâm sure. Iâm sure. Why do you think thosepeople are willing to set themselves up in such a way? I mean on national television and in front ofthe three of you. I mean it doesnât getmuch more scrutiny than that.
Randy Iâll tell you, I think William Hung has helped a lot ofpeople. Really. I mean listen, the guy made a career out ofbeing just absolutely one of the worst.
Kira Thatâs true.
Randy I mean I donât know. I donâtknow how. Itâs amazing to me. I donât know. I wouldnât show up if I didnât think that I had the talent, but ...
Kira But what that must do to your ego.
Randy ... different in their heads. Theyâre hearing something different in their heads Iâm convinced.
Kira I guess so. What that must do to your ego I canâtimagine.
Randy I ..., dude.
Kira Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it.
Richard Randy, thereâs a story in AdAge today talkingabout Fremantle and expanding the marketing of American Idol, perhaps having atheme park ride and candy bars and ice cream.
Randy I like that, like the Wonka Bar.
Richard Thatâs right. The Randy Bar.
Randy Yes.
Richard I mean how much of this stuff do you think youcan do? Do you ever get worried thatthereâs a point where itâs too much that it takes away from the show?
Randy No. I mean, listen, I thinkIdol is definitely a huge brand. I thinkthat I can see people are trying to leverage the brand. We donât have anything to do with that, but Idonât think so. I think Idol is a showabout talent finding, so I think as long as we find great talent all of thosethings will sustain themselves.
Richard So youâre a supporter of the Idol perfume?
Randy No. I have my own perfumeIâm going to put out and I think Simonâs got one coming out called TheStinker.
Richard Whatâs yours called?
Randy The Love Potion.
Richard Thank you, Randy.
Amanda Everybody has taken all of myquestions I was going to ask and I donât think youâve ever been to
Randy I just think that they both had the eye of the tiger. I think Kelly has gone on to great success,so I think she has really listened and really figured out who she is, becauseyouâre never going to be successful in the record business unless you know whoyou are. Therefore, youâre making theright records I hate to keep saying it the right songs for your public. That means if Iâm an R&B singer Iprobably shouldnât be doing rock songs because that public wonât be buying thatfrom me because they wonât believe it. Itâs not honest and true. Kellyhas had huge success because sheâs made the right records. I mean I love that. I think Fantasia, that version ofâSummertimeâ still rings in my head. Ijust think Iâm not sure sheâs made all of the right records personally. I would make different records with her, mepersonally, but I just think that that performance just is the best Idolperformance that I can remember to date.
Amanda Thank you.
Daria Randy, Iâm calling from
Randy All right.
Daria My only question to you is between SimonCowell being a go-for-the-jugular type of judge and Paula being alet-them-down-easy judge where do you think you fit in?
Randy I will stand that I am definitely the voice of reason.
Daria Definitely. Youâre kind of cool. Youâre laidback, but I always respect your point of view. I canât take bad talent. I justcanât take that. Iâm a music lover and... go-go, live instruments ...
Randy I like that.
Daria Thank you, Randy.
Jeff Randy, Iâve got to agree with that lastcaller. You pretty much are the coolest judge on the show.
Randy Thanks, dude.
Jeff Iâm not kissing up to you. You were here in
Randy Let me just say this that Minneapolis was very interesting, I meanit being the home of Prince, Jamminâ Louis, all of this great talent, PaulWesterberg. Aside of all of that it wasdefinitely really interesting. I donât think any of us knew what to reallyexpect, but definitely enlightening. Iâll just say that.
Jeff Can you tell us this? Do you expect to see any Minnesotans make itto the end?
Randy I think a couple could actually, yes.
Jeff The last question: The finale last season was great. You mentioned Prince. Prince was on. That was huge. Can we expect the show to be even bigger andmore exciting this time around?
Randy Yes. I think, listen, wecontinuously have fun with it. I thinkKenny and Nigel and everyone did an amazing job producing that finale show lastyear and big ... for them. Prince blewthe doors off. He is one of thequintessential ones of our times.
Jeff One more question: Anything stand out during your stay here in
Randy The lack of four seasons. No, Iâm just kidding. Actually,we had a good time there. It got coldersooner than I thought though. I had tobuy a jacket.
Jeff Itâs cold now. Thank you, Randy.
W Two more questions, please.
Larry Randy, getting back to Elliott, whoâs alocal guy from
Randy Well, thatâs what I was saying earlier. You look at whatâs happened to JenniferHudson. I mean she just landed a recorddeal, right? This was two seasons or threeseasons ago or something. I think itâsabout finding the right home and the people that really believe in you and thatreally want to guide your career. Ithink Elliott is going to be all right.
Larry Another question: Stepping back and looking at the wholephenomenon of American Idol, did ever in your mind, when you signed on to dothis show when nobody ever heard of it or knew what it was, could you ever havevisualized that this would have happened, that it would become what it istoday?
Randy No, I donât think any of us really did. I mean I certainly did not. I mean I had noidea. I went into it kind of blind as abat. I went into it saying letâs seewhat happens. I knew that the recordindustry was in the toilet. I knew therecord industry needed something different and having just come out of it,being in it for 15 years in the A&R departments, I knew that there neededto be another, different kind of talent search. But weâre truly happy and unbelievably blessed and really, really luckyto ... success.
Larry Thank you, Randy.
Amy I wanted to ask you how do you keep itinteresting for you after doing it now going into the sixth season. How do you not get bored with seeing so manyof the same types of singers over and over again? What keeps it interesting for you?
Randy I think singers are singers are singers. I think Iâve been doing it all of mylife. I think itâs always interesting tome and Iâm always trying to find something thatâs unique and different andgreat out there, so the quest never ends for us because weâre always hopefulthat this season weâre finding the next Sinatra or the next huge whatever. Weâre always curious and interested. Do you know what I mean?
Amy Do you have in your mind somebody that gotaway, that just was voted off to soon and you havenât heard from?
Randy I think a lot of people get voted off a little soon, but I thinksometimes during the course of the season, especially when it gets down to thetop seven or six people, I think America gets a little confused at times. I think when someone goes off every weekthose votes are going to go somewhere, so you never know where theyâre going togo exactly. I think somebody falls inthe clutches there sometimes, but I think, as I said to someone earlier,
Amy Is there anyone whoâs just not pursued itthat you think should try to that you saw during the process, who we havenâtheard from and has kind of dropped out of the music business that you thinkshould not have dropped out and should keep trying?
Randy Well, no. I mean the thingis that if you really are serious about this and youâve got that kind ofpersistence and that kind of conviction, youâll still be going and fighting andscratching and biting and trying to make it happen just like you see going onwith Jennifer Hudson now. I mean thatshows people that you donât know when itâs going to happen, but youâre going tokeep your nose to the grind until it really does happen for you.
Amy How are all of the judges getting alongthis season? How are you guys doing?
Randy Fantastically, interestingly well.
Amy You and Paula, you and Simon, everyonegood?
Randy Yes. Listen, itâs alwaysinteresting because we donât see each other for a while and then we get backtogether and do the show. Itâs always alittle bit of a readjusting period and we go a little crazy on each othersometimes, but we each call each other crazy four or five times. Thatâs okay. Itâs brothers and sisters. Comeon.
Amy Great. Thank you so much.
Moderator Thankyou. Do you have any final remarks, Mr.Jackson?
Randy I love