Anyway, to help promote the movie I recently got to do roundtable interviews with some of the cast from âBeowulf.â The one youâre about to read is with Ray Winstone and he plays the title character.
âBeowulfâ is now playing in theaters everywhere.
Question: Did you know it was going to be this homoerotic? I mean, somebody came out and said heâs like a man magnet?
Ray Winstone: Itâs really odd to know what youâre going to get because Iâve never seen this process before. And the one you do see is Polar Express. Which we couldnât be doing this now without Polar Express being done. Iâm sure the more this is done, the better itâs is going to be. When youâre doing it you just have to forget about the technical side of it and you just perform, like you would on a normal film. The beauty is you got more freedom, you can walk around.
Q: Why do you think Robert Zemeckis thought of you to play Beowulf?
Ray: Well heâs obviously a very intelligent man. [laughter]
Did he say thereâs something?
Ray: Yea he did, Henry VIII. What I done in
Is this something you did in a theater?
Ray: No, no, it was a TV thing we done at home, a two parter.
How many pounds of ego do you have to pour over yourself to play that character?
Ray: Well, itâs more guts really at the beginning because you are quite vulnerable. You walk out and you got this really tight suit on, so every bulge is showing. And youâre standing there like that. Then you got Angelina whoâs beautiful and Robin Wright Penn whoâs stunning and they look great in the suits, and then thereâs me, playing this guy with an 8-pack supposedly. So at first you gotta get over that. And just go...
You have to play a very ego-centric person.
Ray: Yea, and I think thatâs the great thing about not knowing the story, not knowing the book, and reading the script. You come into it in a very open fashion. To me it was about egos. Itâs much like being an actor or anything really, that you start believing your own press. The stories of Beowulf, you know, you start believing that. And I did do that. Obviously heâs exaggerating the stories, and you believe that. And then the greed and the ambition sets in. And thatâs what the story for me was about. Greed and...
And celebrities, too.
Ray: Yea. So itâs kind of to me it was a story thatâs about today as much as it was about the past.
You said in the press conference that youâre 5â5â and your character is 6â6â...
Ray: Iâm 5â10â.
Oh sorry.
Ray: Itâs alright! [laughter] I was sitting down at the time!
Was there any issues with eye-line?
Ray: Yea! When I came close to people, they put a trail of boxes out, so I was walking above them, looking down on them. So, obviously when I was on tables I was above them anyway. That was all thought out, it was thoroughly though out. That really was the only time I didnât have the freedom to move where I wanted, because we might have gone through it once and seen where I was going to go and that kind of stuff. But, itâs the most freeing experience Iâve ever had of working on a film or anything...
What about the big battle between Beowulf and Grendel? How were you flying up to the rafters?
Ray: Yea, Iâm on wires.
Oh you are?
Ray: Yea, but also Iâm climbing up them because they built this thing. And Iâd climb up him with no wires. You know Iâve done all the stunts in it. I said to the stunt guys, what do you want me to do. What do you feel you can do? Well, Iâll do whatever you think Iâm capable of doing. Thinking yea, thatâs great, the stunt boy will have done it all. And Iâm really pleased I did, because I felt like I really achieved something at the end. And you know you feel the aches and pains the next day, and you break things. I broke ribs...
Did you?
Ray: Yea! With the dragon, when Iâm fighting the dragon at the end, and I swing out and I come in grab the heart. Well thereâs a big bar, itâs all metal, and its framed and its wire because you have to see through it. And I swung out, you know thinking Iâm Errol Flynn, and came back like that and went smash and just done on the ribs. And thereâs nothing you can do for ribs, when you break ribs...
Tape them?
Ray: You canât tape them no more, itâs no good. But it was probably six weeks of real physical performance as well. You was acting with some of the greatest actors in the world.
People have known you from going to film festivals and seeing art films like Sexy Beast and things like this. But this is like, I think, your first big mainstream international huge movie. One, do you think itâs going to make a difference in your careerâ
Ray: I think way you go itâll go right out the window! Iâll last about 12 months I suppose before I jump off a building. [laughter] Ah, you donât know! Iâm kind of glad Iâm older... Maybe when youâre 22 that kinda can happen. I got enough family around me to kick me in the ass if I need it.
And you got Indiana Jones next!
Ray: Yea, that was fun.
Have you finished?
Ray: Yea, done it, finished a couple of weeks ago.
What can you tell us?
Ray: No, Iâd have to kill ya if I told you.
Ray, tell us and kill him! [laughter]
Ray: [Joking...] Did he mean that? Yea, itâs like that eh? Ok...
Were you out of the country?
Ray: Yea, we was all over the place. I just had a ball doing it. It was fun. I mean, youâre a kid again, youâre playing!
So I wanted to ask, the second part of that, if you could tell people a little about your story, your history. We heard that you were a boxer when you were in your teenage years. How did you get into acting?
Ray: When I was at school, I done a play for whatever reasons, I donât know why I done a play.
Is this in
Ray: Yea, I kind of enjoyed it. And around my area there werenât many kids who became actors. There werenât, it just didnât happen. And I think my mum and dad allowed me to go to drama school. And they paid for it, it was about 900 £ a term, three terms a year. Iâm going back 1974 that was a lot of money. God knows what my dad was doing, he mustâve been out selling. I went for a year. I was kind of lucky, my face kinda fit, and I was kind a little bit, I donât know, different I suppose. I had no idea what I was doing. I was just lucky to work with someone called Allen Clark. Who was a teacher, he was a great teacher. And without me even knowing he was teaching me, he did, and I believe that. Because a lot of stuff that he was all about I kind of use now, I didnât even know he was doing it. And working with Gary Oldman 10 years ago [on Nil by Mouth] was... Heâs another great teacher and probably the best director Iâve ever worked with. For my style of acting and what I like to do. Gary to me, heâs just above everything.
And where did the boxing fit in when you were studying acting?
Ray: I didnât think it did, but it does. If youâre losing a fight and you get punched in front of 5000 people, that hurts. Getting booed on stage is nothing, believe me. I just think thereâs an instinct, thereâs something about a one-on-one, like when youâre in a scene one-on-one and youâre looking into someoneâs eyes and you know whatâs coming, and you can feel it and you can smell it. Timing and everything, and respect I guess as well.
And what kind of accent would you say you have?
Ray: Iâm an
Youâre a likely lad!
Ray: Iâm a cuntney chappie!
Are you good at accents?
Ray: I didnât think so... I kind of start late with all that. I played the guy from up the mound from somewhere around
And when did you become a star?
Ray: Oh, years ago. [laughter]
Is there a movie where you can look back at your career and sayâ
Ray: Well the first film I ever done, Scum, was really famous in
No, it was famous here, too.
Ray: Was it? I think Sean Penn actually made an American version named Bad Boys, I think it was. And heâs another actor, I can watch him all day long, I think heâs fantastic.
So right out of the gate you became famous?
Ray: Yea, but then I never worked for years. The film industry [in
So talk about working with Angelina. In some way I think her abilities are being overshadowed by her personal life.
Ray: Well she ainât, really, I think everyone else writes about that, they take away from what a fantastic actor she is. The first time I became aware of her being a great actress is the film she done Gia. I mean, that is some... I couldnât believe that, it was fantastic. And I was lucky enough to meet Angelina years ago in
Was this the wedding in the castle?
Ray: No, I donât get invited to those. I drink too much, I think. No, you know, just a mutual friend of ours.
Has she changed?
Ray: Well, I donât know her enough. I wouldnât say so. She smiles and sheâs lovely and you feel like you could talk with her all day.
What is Death of a Ladies Man?
Ray: Oh thatâs,
So what else can you tell us about Indiana Jones?
Ray: Now come! Do you know what I like about that? It keeps everyone wanting to know what itâs about. And to me, I got to tell you this, it starts at a gallop and it finishes at pace. Iâve never been in a film at a pace like that. Itâs a ball.
Why do you think Beowulf is important to be seen in 3D?
Ray: I donât think it is. I think itâs great to see it in 3D or on IMAX, but the thing about it without that you got story. And you still got a great story. So I donât think itâs the most important thing, but for visual and to be there and to actually feel all that sort of stuff thatâs going on, yea 3D, pick it every time. But what I love about this film is its got a story. And itâs a fabulous story as well. At the end you just want to see a bit more, I want another half an hour of it. Thatâs how you should feel after a good film, I think.
How much did you have to exercise and diet to gain that body?
Ray: Actually, I was very lucky, it took me about 3 weeks.
It was funny because I invited a friend of mine to the screening yesterday, heâs gay, and he didnât know it was you, I told him after the movie. But, when you see this guy getting naked, youâre like oh come on, itâs way too much! Heâs like honey, he must have that kind of body but heâs enhanced, they enhanced him. He must be like strong and everything, but of course they enhanced him.
Ray: The thing is, itâs the movement. Iâm not built like that, but the thing you got to thing about before you do that is the way you would move if you were built like that. Youâve got to actually move like a 6â6â warrior whoâs got arms like this. So I work like that, Iâm all over the place. So itâs the way you move.
How did you do the swimming stuff?
Ray: It was what Angelina said, youâre on the floor, youâre on this thing and you swim and youâre kicking your legs. We also had wires, because there was a tunnel bit which we didnât use in the film funny enough. But thereâs a tunnel made out of wire with a hole at the top and they take you through on wires, so youâre up in the air because theyâre filming from below you. And youâre swimming, but on wires, and youâve got to maneuver your way through this cave, this wire cave. But no, youâre just swimming in air. Itâs a laugh, you think thatâs ridiculous, but you got to get over that.
How tough a time do you think your family and friends will give you when they see what you look like in the film?
Ray: Thatâs quite an interesting question, I think theyâll have a little chuckle. As my wife said, when she saw my picture, she showed me a picture of me when I was 18, 19. I ainât 6â6â and I havenât got the 8-pack, but I was boxing at the time and it is. I was blonde and I was a fit kid. I was a bit fiery.
How many victories did you have as a boxer?
Ray: 88
How many of those were knock outs?
Ray: I lost 8 out of the 88.
Wow! And do you think you could take Liam Neeson?
Ray: Heâs a big boy, Liam. Heâs a big boy!
Different weight class?
Ray: Yea, yea, Iâd have to give him a little bit. I think heâs a big love, heâs more of a heavyweight. Iâm an actor now, not a fighter.
So are you moving to
Ray: No, no, I live in