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by Matt Goldberg Posted:January 11th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
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More details have arisen regarding today’s massive news that Sony would be scrapping Spider-Man 4, kicking out Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, et al., and rebooting the series. EW reports that Sony wants “a more gritty, contemporary redo of the series,” and are focused on younger, up-and-coming directors. I’m going to try and be optimistic and not take that to mean Sony wants someone who can make a good film, but more importantly won’t have enough weight to push any independent artistic decisions.
EW also reports that Sony was always aiming to reboot the series in 2012 no matter what, but they did want one last outing with Raimi, Maguire, and co. This means that Sony just pushed up the timetable on setting up a crappy precedent where they don’t have to use over forty years of material from the comics, but can just keep redoing the series to suit the demographic with the most purchasing power at the time. That’s why when Sony means Peter Parker is going back to high-school, it means they’re skewing towards the Twilight crowd because they know the fanboys will nut up, take it, and then complain about it after they’ve already paid x-amount of dollars to see it (most likely in 3D; Sony hasn’t announced that for this new movie, but it’s a safe assumption they’ll jump on that bandwagon as well).
Hit the jump for more details on the Spidey reboot story, including the status of the script, why Sony is rushing to get this film made, and when we can expect to hear who the new director and star of the series will be.
Variety explains that Sony must continue to actively develop the Spider-Man franchise or else the rights revert back to Disney/Marvel. Knowing that along with their intended 2012 reboot, it should come as no surprise that James Vanderbilt’s (Zodiac) script for the new film is already written. The story of the teenaged Peter Parker is now in preproduction with the announcement of the new director and star expected in the coming weeks. I wish there were a way to measure the groans/outrage from fanboys when the young, unknown actor to be the new web-slinger is announced.
There’s very little hope to be found in this reboot mess, and I’m trying to movie myself to indifference and focus on projects that I may end up enjoying. Maybe if they get a strong director on board or a young star who has real acting talent, I may not be as depressed writing about this new Spider-Man, but it’s hard to muster up any enthusiasm at such a rancid business move that cynically chooses to ignore the potential for better stories in order to water down the one we already saw and enjoyed.
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I think the spider man reboot is a great idea, I’ll agree that part 2 was good but did any of you guys see spider-man 3 it fucking sucked, I think Raimi and company have takin the franchises as far as they can take it and all want to move on, I know Toby didn’t even want to do part 2, I like to see an up and coming young dir like Ramin Bahrani take control and breath life into the franchises
See, if they had saved Venom for the 4th movie, not of this s**t would have happened! Here’s how the 3rd movie should have gone:Keep everything up until the church scene. Right before the church scene Eddie Brock steals something or something like that and is pursued by the cops. He flees to the church and the symbiot drops on him. Then, the cops bust in and arrest him. Then, instead of Venom and Sandman teaming up, Sandman and Harry Osborne should have teamed up. Then, before they are about to put their plan into action, Harry’s butler tells him that Peter didn’t kill his dad. Harry feels bad and tells Peter about him and Sandman’s plan. Then, Sandman figures out he’s been betrayed and bludgeons Harry to death. Then, Peter swings in and starts beating up Sandman and all the rest of the story happens and a few credits roll.Then…a jail cell at night. The camera slowly pans down. Eddie Brock is sitting in the corner of the cell rocking himself back and forth. The camera would then come down and focus on his face. He rocks into the shadows and back out: he is Venom! and that should have been the way the 3rd movie ended.Then, the 4th movie would be about Venom and Carnage wreaking havoc on the city.
What do you guys think? Would it have made the movie better if it had been like this?
Come on, Sam, YOU ruined this series! Thanks a lot, jerk!
Well i’m glad you weren’t the director. While I like the idea of Venom being introduced the rest would have been blah
This news ruined my week completely
How could they do this to us….?
REVOLT! LET’S ALL NEVER BUY ANOTHER SONY PRODUCT, EVER! FIGHT THE POWER!
That’s a slap in the face if I’ve ever seen one.
Really, Hollywood? Rebooting Spider-Man to be as dark and gritty as Nolan’s Batman universe? Frankly, I don’t like this at all. I’m not even a huge Spider-Man fan, but changing the tone of an already successful franchise to that of a dark, satirical view on the human condition…that’s BS, plain and simple. They should stick to what works, not play “follow-the-leader”. -_-
I’m not totally into the whole reboot thing, lol, but if they do make a reboot, then they should have Ryan Kelley play Peter Parker. I can picture him as Peter. He’s a good actor, and he’s relatively unknown. I like Shia LaBeouf, but I can not picture him as Peter Parker. And I can’t picture Michael Cera as Peter either. That would be lame.
What is needed is a #4 movie series reboot not a back to school flick.
I’m saying it again, Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Spider-Man complete with the hyphen. They could get him in shape by the time this movie should be ready.
I never thought of Joseph Gordon-Levitt as an option, but I can actually see him as Spiderman. lol.
At least we wont have to see the awful Kirstin “See me scream” Dunst again. Thats worth looking forward to at least.
am I the only one that hated all the Sam Raimi spidey movies? As a life-long Spiderman fan, I felt the films were too cartooney, with a completely unlikeable Peter Parker/spider man. Tobey Maguire was far too mopey and humorless. Everything was bland and yet somehow also over the top. Personally, I’m hoping for a darker update that brings back Spiderman’s humor. People forget Spider Man is actually a pretty dark comic… there is some awful shit that happens to Peter Parker. Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, etc., etc. To say Dunst was awful as MJ doesn’t do justice to how bad she was. I think there’s a lot of nostalgia here for several movies that aren’t even that good. Are they better than the Fantastic Four films? Absolutely, but Spider Man deserves so much better.
Yeah, the toned down everything way too much. In the old games and cartoons the bad guys were much scarier and more menacing. But in the movies, they made them too childish. I’ll admit that I liked the movies, but they could of been way better. Maybe with this reboot they can do some ACTUAL justice to Spiderman.
Seriously? Spidey 3 wasn't broken? That was the worse blockbuster I'd seen since Chronicles of Narnia, well.. that wasn't that long. But a lot of bad blockbusters come out.
I don't think this idea Sony is running with is much good either though, I'd have preferred they stick with at least the actors and have another go. In fact it seems like a more logical and safe step toward making the bucks. However, this might be a good way to cut down the production costs with a new team and still retain most of their income for the release. Either way unless it gets shining reviews on its debut, I won't be seeing it in theaters.
That's probably true, but using a series of bad movies to argue that it is okay for another movie to be bad is not a very effective method at determining quality productions.
In any manner, I'd rather see Sam doing another original movie like Drag Me To Hell, which has been one of the few quality horror products this decade. Honestly, probably one of the only good American horror movies to come out of the decade. I hope he makes Warcraft good and the new Evil Dead movie.
You forget he isn't very funny either. Nor was Maguire, they need to cast someone who can actually replicate Parkers personality; somebody with a sense of humor.
Still having series continue past a trilogy simply because they can is ridiculous and clearly just a way to milk a series for all its worth. It is also an untested method that may result in pure disaster, it has always been movie 1: amazing, movie 2: pretty good and brings in the dough, movie 3: terrible movie, rushed production, brings in a butt load more than the other two but also costs more… so what is movie 4? I guess we will find out, but it will probably be like- unsatisfactory attendance, harsh critical reviews, a drop in profits, detrimental to actors/directors prestige and career, etc. Its never good for a director or actor to be put on a project that long they end up typecasting themselves for sure.
Like Johnny Depp, he put eyeliner on for Pirates and I haven't seen him take it off since.
It’s outrageous! Again, big Hollywood Studios don’t give a damn about the fans. They’re aming for money. So, let’s put some Twilight into Spiderman… Huh? If you only want teenagers to go to your movies, go ahead! I won’t. Stupid executive decision…
Yeah, they ruined Twilight as well. They were ok, but they downplayed them so much just so teenagers can see them. It ruins the movies and it doesn’t do justice to the books. If teenagers really want to see a movie, they’ll find a way to see a movie. Make it rated r and do it the real justice it deserves, then it’ll make more money because it’s actually good.
The series as a whole wasn't broken, so a reboot so soon is unreasonable in my eyes. I'm still in denial. Drag Me To Hell surprised me with how great it was. I was worried because Sam hadn't done a horror movie in years and Spider-Man 3. I watch it everyday now.
If they go that New Moon way then forget it. Movies are a crap shot anyway but Sam and Co. did a great job and you don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. Sony and their top brass are arrogant old men. They look at bar charts rather than artistic endeavors IMHO. If they do try and get all New Moon the franchise will die a lot of people will loose their job. The New Moon folks are nondescript and forgettable. They are nothing but Abercrombie and Fitch throwaways. Look at the Spider Man numbers. Massive! What is the problem.
To h**** with Sony man!
If they go that New Moon way then forget it. Movies are a crap shot anyway but Sam and Co. did a great job and you don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. Sony and their top brass are arrogant old men. They look at bar charts rather than artistic endeavors IMHO. If they do try and get all New Moon the franchise will die a lot of people will loose their job. The New Moon folks are nondescript and forgettable. They are nothing but Abercrombie and Fitch throwaways. Look at the Spider Man numbers. Massive! What is the problem.
To h**** with Sony man!
If they go that New Moon way then forget it. Movies are a crap shot anyway but Sam and Co. did a great job and you don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. Sony and their top brass are arrogant old men. They look at bar charts rather than artistic endeavors IMHO. If they do try and get all New Moon the franchise will die a lot of people will loose their job. The New Moon folks are nondescript and forgettable. They are nothing but Abercrombie and Fitch throwaways. Look at the Spider Man numbers. Massive! What is the problem.
To h**** with Sony man!
To be fair, I was never a massive fan of Toby M as SM (Awaits on slaught from everyone…) and I’m interested in seeing what they do with this new picture. And on the plus side, no more Kirsten Dunst whinging about the place either.
A lot of theory is being thrown out about why they got rid of Sam and Co. We just don’t know. I wasn’t a real fan of the movies but I went to see them and they were well made and acted. But if Sony wants to head in another direction go ahead. It’s their money. And if they do make it darker… Why?!
Heath was the only reason anyone went to see the Dark Knight anyway. Don’t tell that to Christian Bale or you’ll get your ass kicked. Look at the first Superman. CLASSIC! Hell they had Jackie Coper for crying out loud. But the franchise headed down south. Way south! They’ll probably get Brian Singer or that guy JJ Abrams to fuck it up. Superman and Star Trek were garbage. They’d most likely do it up NEW MOON style. A process where you get no story but a bunch of explosions and six pack ab shots.
Weird/sad timing! Elephant Larry (the sketch comedy group that made the CollegeHumor short “Minesweeper: The Movie”) just put out a fake Behind The Scenes featurette for Spider-Man 4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydghp-QiLqY
Hey all,
Let’s give the “reboot” a chance. Raimi did a great job with Spider-Man. All three films were done above average or superior in quality, and Raimi helped to make Spider-Man an icon (and demonstrated well how a superhero film should be made, and how great it can be) . Remember when Spider-Man first came out? It can still remember the lines of people waiting to see it. I can remember my own excitement on that day.
Downfalls of Raimi? Poor editing throughout much of the 3 films. A bit too campy in some ways (though embraced nonetheless by the public).
But after Spider-Man 3, I believe a new direction was needed. In the end, though, I don’t think the new take on Spidey will allow the kind of box office as seen from Spider-Man 1-3… Maybe on the level of DARK KNIGHT plus 20%? I hope I’m wrong, however.
Just my thoughts,
-Sean
I wish the rights would just go back to Marvel/Disney. Then maybe we’d get a good Spider-Man movie.
I hate reboots period. It is as if they are saying ‘ok, everything that came before, never really happened and to forget about it’ Why don’t they just do what Nolan did with Batman and find a story arc from a set of comics and adopt it to the screen.
Sony
Go die
This is the worst news Ive heard in while.
The Spider-man trilogy is the best superheroe series.
Who’s idea was is it to decline raimi and maguire ?
Was this sony’s idea ? If so I will throw out all my sony products , including my PS3 !
seems disastrous…but to be fair, Spiderman 3 was a disappointment. Another movie in that trend wouldn’t have been pleasant. Maybe it’s good that this series was scrapped before we got a “Batman and Robin” style pile of tripe.
As much as i hate to see Raimi leave, I can find hope in here. Mainly because i thought that Spiderman 3 was a really bad script. I just hope they don’t kill off Venom in THIS series too.
Don’t worry, Spiderman 4 will come out in about 2014 because the new spiderman movie will be sucha fail that critics will hate it and people will hate it as well, sure it might make alot of money, but that’s because people will just want to see the new director’s point of view and how this new actor does. people will walk out of the theater extremely dissapointed (like they were even really thrilled at all before) and will post there hatred thoughts on the internet with everyone else along with critics. Sony will have to read what everyone thinks because the dvd sales will be so awful and they will have to get curious and they will see what everyone thinks and they will have to hire Raimi back along with Maguire, Dunst, etc. They will be ON THE FLOOR BEGGING for Raimi and crew.
I like the idea. New stories in different continuity are a great way to keep things fresh. They are always doing this in the comics, so why not on the big screen? Now Avatar laid the groundwork for what could be some spectacular spiderman special effects in 3D!
I like how everyone’s ideas are either a darker & gritty reboot or a darker & gritty sequel lol. If not that, they say “Let’s make it as realistic as possible.” They’re even doing all that crap with the new Robin Hood movie. This is ridiculous! The first 2 spider-man films are great and I believe that Sam Raimi can redeem himself with another Spider-man- after that awful third film.
Although i feel (and many others) that venom was totally wasted in SM3, that would have been ok if they weren’t going to make anymore and wanted to cram in as much as possible. But if they had a spidey 4 laying in wait that could have been used to flesh out the venom storyline…well, with spidey going back to high school…(ugn!) you can forget about the story progressing forward as we are treated to watching spidey learn how to use his powers all over again…awful. Sony will milk this franchise until it’s worthless like what happened to the original Batman franchise…and then marvel will take the reigns and rebuild it.
this decision is such crap. what would be awesome is if the reboot is such a bombshell that it opens sony’s eyes and is like “ok, we’re dumb asses, let’s now do Spiderman 4″ just a little hope on my part. again crap decision.
i will star by saying the spider-man 2 is only bested by the dark knight, in my opinion. i am a bit bummed but there is potential. my dream spider-man would feature a director like jj abhrams or someone like mark webb (people that can tell a story). my current favorite young actor is anton yelchin. he can act so i like him a peter parker. I want gwen stacy to be the love interest. follow the comics a little bit. have spider-man be framed for the murder of captain stacy and play out the tension between perter and gwen. kill gwen off with her iconic fall via the green goblin. not in one movie of course but throughout the entire story. go read spider-man: blue and you have yourself a good idea for some movies. but i think sony needs to take a page out of WB’s book and trust a solid director to make his/her vision. not that it needs to be gritty but if there are too many cooks in the kitchen contributing to the creative process it will result in a film that is too disjointed. allow the film makers to do their jobs and allow the suits to market and merchandise.
I hope Robert Pattinson isn’t playing as Peter Parker.
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Spider-Man is not supposed to be “gritty.” Even the current regime at Marvel, who get so much else wrong in their handling of the character, grasps that.
Best comic book adaptation? Blade.
Spiderman 1-3 = a bit childish but enjoyable pocorn flicks, nothing more.
Best comic book adaptation? Blade.
Spiderman 1-3 = a bit childish but enjoyable pocorn flicks, nothing more.
OH SURE JUMP ON THE “SPIDER-MAN REBOOT” BANDWAGON even though sony hasn't officially made a public announcement of the details (which they'll probably do in the last moment).
Spiderman has never been a gritty super hero. His stories were told knowing he is a mild mannered teenager, then later a leader type for the SuperHeroes. Gritty may work on some level, and reboot if you must, but don't forget the Spiderman story has never been “gritty” and to try to change that isn't a reboot, more like a rewrite of one of the most beloved superheroes of all time. Good luck with that.
While many other franchises have infamously fizzled out on their third installment, Spider-Man 3 is a creative and technical triumph.
After seeing the first one I never wanted to watch the other two. But if sony thinks for one second an ass nine reboot will help they are sadly mistaken. 1 its such a short period of time i dont think everyone is going to get over the fact its too cliche. 2lets not forget the horrible punisher remake.
This sucks. I want Sam back to direct an Tobey and the rest of the cast. Why are they rebooting it soooo soon? Usually you wait like 10 years or something like that or a long amount of time to reboot something. This is going to suck! They better lean towards a twilght crowd or else will not watch any of the new films. Rami makes one bad movie and they say thats it, time for a reboot. Thats bull shit. Someone should make a site about this and some huge ass pettition!
I meant they better NOT LEAN TOWARDS A TWLIGHT CROWD
a reboot is needed, spider-man 3 was the worst and they need to get back to the basics. A more darker spider-man.
Mclovin' should be spider-man, we need a nerdy looking guy who can be funny and smart and not just mumbling in-explicit dirty jokes or acting very bored like Micheal Cera no offense but the guy practically plays the same character in the movie, at least Christopher Mintz-Plasse looks like Peter Parker, and is a smart ass like spidey is. I hpe there's a good enough young actors out there for this reboot, I'm currently working on my spider-man script right now.
If they trying to do what worked for Batman then good luck to them. Batman was ment to be dark and gritty. he is a dark character. To portray Spidey as a dark 'emo boy' character or adopt that stance wouldnt sit well with comic fans i think cause he is a cocky nerd especialy when taunting his enemies. Good luck balancing the two. I dont like this idea of a diffrent take on peter parker at all. Why so seriousssss!.
If they trying to do what worked for Batman then good luck to them. Batman was ment to be dark and gritty. he is a dark character. To portray Spidey as a dark 'emo boy' character or adopt that stance wouldnt sit well with comic fans i think cause he is a cocky nerd especialy when taunting his enemies. Good luck balancing the two. I dont like this idea of a diffrent take on peter parker at all. Why so seriousssss!.
This has to be the worst idea…. I have been long awaiting Spidey 4. I won't see this movie just out of principle. Plus the whole “Lets have a black Spidey” just shows that no one really knows what they want anymore and just want to please the masses. The masses normally don't know what is good for them in the first place lol. Has anyone even seen the Twilight movies? They are so corny….even my girlfriend said the books aren't that corny haha.
I loved the Spider-Man Trilogy. I think the story lines were really good I think they left alot in the open for a Spider-Man 4 Movie. Some of the things they left were will Peter and MJ be together I want to know. Yes you could bring back venom and turn doctor coners into the Lizard would make for a very good movie Toby and Dunst were good bring them back if not still continue with the story line why put him pack in highschool that is a bad idea. Spider-Man is the best.
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I like Neil patrick harris in the new animated series. *sheilds self* “Here comes the hate”.
after the re boot if they da a nother one i am gona go in sonys studyos grag a poket knife cut ther heds off then grab a 60 foot gun the shoot evry one then take all of ther psps man i hate the reboot i dont get to see my fav caric ter carnage jeez just put him in a seen for god sakes man f*ck sony!