Roberto Orci Lobbying to Direct STAR TREK 3 as Film Partnership with Alex Kurtzman Ends

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For better or worse, the writing duo of Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman has been responsible for some of the biggest franchise hits of the past decade.  Orci and Kurtzman penned the scripts for the first two Transformers films, Star Trek, Star Trek Into Darkness, Mission: Impossible III, and they were recently brought into the Spider-Man franchise as the scribes behind The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and the upcoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3.  However, it appears that the two have decided to part ways in the feature world as they have their eyes on making the move to director—separately.

Kurtzman already has one feature under his belt as director, the 2012 dramedy People Like Us, but Orci is thinking big for his directorial debut as he is currently vying to take over for J.J. Abrams on Star Trek 3.  More after the jump.

star-trek-3-director-roberto-orciVariety reports that Orci and Kurtzman are parting ways in the film world, but will be sticking together on the TV side via their various producorial efforts like Sleepy Hollow and Hawaii Five-0.  They still have a number of projects in the works on the feature film side, including Spider-Man 3, but it’s currently unclear how those will be divided between the two and their K/O Paper Products banner.  The reason for the split is due to their separate desires to direct.  Kurtzman is already attached to helm the Spider-Man spinoff film Venom, but Orci has his sights set on the director’s chair for Star Trek 3.

With Abrams busy on Star Wars for the foreseeable future, a new director was needed to take over the Trek franchise.  Orci and Kurtzman had already begun to splinter as Orci took up principal duties on Trek 3 as producer and co-writer with his protégés Patrick McKay and John D. Payne, and Variety adds that he is heavily lobbying to direct the film.  Apparently Bad Robot and Skydance Productions—co-producers on Trek 3—are in favor of this idea (as is Abrams himself), but Paramount is being cautious.

The studio first approached Attack the Block helmer Joe Cornish about taking over for Abrams on Trek 3, and while he considered the offer, he subsequently decided he’d rather direct something from the ground-up rather than step into an existing franchise (he’s now onboard the spy thriller Section 6).  It’s unclear if Paramount has any other directors under serious consideration right now or if they’re currently focused on making a decision with regards to Orci taking the helm.

Orci has long been the Trek expert on the franchise’s team, but I’m dubious of him taking the reigns of the franchise as director.  It’s no secret that he was the primary driving force behind the “false flag” and conspiracy angles of Into Darkness, and I’m not crazy about seeing what a Trek film looks like without the counter-balance of Abrams and Kurtzman.  If he gets the job, this would be 100% Orci’s baby.

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  • t

    Trekies all just got collectively FUCKED!

  • Lance

    No. Sorry, but Orci’s become a bit unhinged. Attacking fans on message boards. And political views that are more than a bit out there. Not the best shepherd for Trek, without other people of equal weight to rein him in.

    • dolphin558

      Is he “butthurt fanboy” from AICN?

    • AprilshouldbeRedhead

      The storyline with Peter Weller showed this in the second movie.

    • MJ

      That a-hole “Amhed”, who Orci attacked on Trekmovie,com, baited him into that exchange. So I don’t hold that against him.

      I agree though that his political views are pretty wack.

    • Cinetim

      agreed

    • WockerDaw

      I can understand his frustration with message boards, as he is currently one of the most hated people in the movie business today and he is constantly insulted on these boards.

      His political views, I think we can avoid when talking about his films. Besides people seeing a lot of “9/11 parallels!!” at the end of STID, I think we can be safe in assuming that even if he tried to bring some of that into the film (very unlikely), the studio would intervene.

      Could he be a good director for Star Trek? Maybe, but let’s hope that either he can write a better script for this one, or bring someone else in who can.

  • Chris

    I wonder how their parting will affect Sleepy Hollow. Have they started production on Season 2 yet?

    • The Pop Pessimist

      Definitely a good question

    • Christopher

      “Variety reports that Orci and Kurtzman are parting ways in the film world, but will be sticking together on the TV side via their various producorial efforts like Sleepy Hollow and Hawaii Five-0.”

      Copy/pasted from THIS VERY ARTICLE.

  • Colonel_Neville_Wraithchild

    i guess the enterprise will finally crash and burn with orci at helm…

  • Abed

    He can’t right a cohesive story to save his life. All his scripts are all over the place (Transformers, Cowboys&Aliens, ASM2, STID, Sleepy Hollow). They have some good ideas and moments, they just seem like their written by a guy with ADD.

    • Cynical

      *write

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        If you’re to correct him, you might as well go for all the other errors because you already come off as a bit pedantic

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        If you’re to correct him, you might as well go for all the other errors because you already come off as a bit pedantic

      • WockerDaw

        Don’t you love how careful we all are about spelling and grammatical errors when we are talking about spelling or grammatical errors?

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        Yeah, though reading my reply, I wasn’t careful enough. I left out a “going” in the first line.

      • WockerDaw

        No, the sentence still works the same without it I believe

  • Cinetim

    there is no way in hell that after his blog rant they are going to give him the job.

    • Cinetim

      though if he hadn’t said fan complaints were “a child acting out against his parents,” he probably would have gotten the gig.
      on a related note: fuck that guy!

  • bidi

    quite frankly, i don’t really need to see another Trek if JJ isn’t involved. unless of course they got someone I could be equally excited about. Orci is not that guy though

  • kuzefra

    He’s not Christopher Nolan, but he’s not Damon Lindelof, either.

    • Abed

      Wrong, he is one of Lindelof’s partners.

      • MJ

        That is just factually wrong.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        I think he means that Lindelof wrote with him. I have no idea if that’s the case, though.

      • ʝoe ßloggs

        We all know that Carlton Cuse is the brains behind the operation.

      • The Flobbit

        Him, Lindelof and Kurtzman are all partners in deep, dark cinematic crime.

    • AprilshouldbeRedhead

      stop being a Nolan fan when you’re really not…you are just like all the nolan fans who only became fans becuz of the 2008 Joker hype

      • kuzefra

        You’re right. I am not. I just wanted to compare Orci to a ‘good’ director without overshooting and saying Spielberg. Nolan really screwed up Dark Knight Rises and should’ve done more to course correct Man of Steel.

        Abrams brings the nostalgic visuals distracting from the story.
        Orci brings the convoluted conspiracy plots.
        Lindelof brings the lazy nonsense.
        Kurtzman brings a bland episodic structure.

  • HacksR’Us

    They’re both hacks that cater to the simple-minded.

    • AprilshouldbeRedhead

      yes but they think they are saying something profound.

  • signinwith

    Oh FUCK no.

  • sofia coppola

    I think i should direct this film and really bring out the emotions of the characters.

    • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

      Yeah, “The Bling Ring” in space. I. Just. Can’t. Wait.

      • sofia coppola

        you’re the first person to understand what i was going for in The Bling Ring. you’re the best.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        You’re gorgeous, Sophia, but please steer clear of anymore ‘Godfather’ sequels;)

      • AprilshouldbeRedhead

        ah ha yer stupid joke didnt work cuz you typo-ed…..

  • lordjim

    duncan jones would be great, these days he is the rare example of someone who understands that science fiction is about spaced out concepts and not about action.

  • jk

    They should take a page from Marvel and try directors from outside of the genre to keep the series vibrant. Abrams, Lindeloff, Kurtzman and Orci should never have been signed back to the franchise in the first place.

  • Person

    This could either be great, or a disaster. Either way, I’m kinda in – he’ll bring something interesting to the table regardless.

    • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

      I’m leaning more towards disaster.

  • Strong Enough

    HELL NO!

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    “Orci has long been the Trek expert on the franchise’s team…” Really? If that’s the case, could someone explain why “Star Trek: Into Darkness” was riddled with mistakes that any Trekkie should have picked up on, like giving Khan’s blood to a Tribble, off the top of my head.

    • MJ

      No worse than Protomatter. In fact, WOK had the most problems of any Trek movie ever.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        Refresh my memory, protomatter? What keeps coming to mind was that red stuff from the first film, though I don’t think that’s what you mean.

      • MJ

        In Wrath of Khan, then made up a new form of matter called “protomatter” that could turn inanimate matter into life — for the Genesis device. Remember?

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        I’ll have to watch that again. I remember Genesis, but don’t recall protomatter. When did it come into play? I recall that they launched the Genesis device at a dead planet, which created life.

      • MJ

        It was the “secret sauce” of the Genesis device

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        I’ll definitely have to see it again. I don’t recall that at all. “Secret sauce.” Heh.

      • MJ

        Actually, the fact that they used protomatter in the Genesis device was revealed in Trek 3.

    • mbmarquis69

      Khan blood isn’t even close to the top of the list I want to challenge Orci with. Khan switching from an Indian Sikh to a skinny pale British guy would be my starters. That decision alone derailed the entire film for me (I understand why it doesn’t bother other people, but I’m not in that group). The first film made me a believer because they seemed committed to establishing a set of rules that would bend, not break, Star Trek canon. Then with one casting decision for STID, they completely undermined their own mission. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the third film is any good because I’m going in with pretty low expectations.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        I can see your point about Khan, though I just rolled with that because the producers clearly didn’t care enough to take it into account.

  • Ruprect

    NOOOO! If they split up they can do twice as much damage!!!

    • http://mattedscreen.blogspot.com/ TheMattedScreen

      cut off one head… two shall rise!

      • The Flobbit

        You shall never be rid of us! Hail Hydra!

  • AprilshouldbeRedhead

    No!!!!!!! I want a NEW vision on these movies ….I want to see a new director give us a totally different take on this version of star trek…use the cast but do something new with it…take it away from the lick style of Abrams and give it something new.

    • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

      That part of the problem with dealing with such an established franchise: You can only do so much. Notice that Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci essentially changed Trek to an action film–lots of various types of battles, minimal character development–but kept the look of the original series (updated, of course though essentially the same).

      What I would have liked if J.J. Abrams could have maybe stopped redoing the scene where Kirk and Sulu dived through the atmosphere to that weapons platform from the first reboot.

      • MJ

        Yea, but you know, I think Orci just might surprise everyone with a more serious story that is less of action film than the first two. Just a hunch.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        You might be right, though from what I know about Kurtzman and Orci from television, never mind the movies, makes me not very optimistic. And the thing is I am not even a huge Star Trek fan, whom I’d imagine are apoplectic.

        They both remind of David Goyer in that they too don’t seem to respect the material they work with more than they want to make a buck.

      • rrcivil

        By their very nature tv shows are much more character driven and films are much more action. A great example is over in Marvel alnd where agents of shield spends much more time on characters and movies character and dialog is just a means to get to the next action sequence. TV never has the money to as much action per hour that movies do so they focus their time on characters

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        To a point you’re right, though I am assuming that you have not seen the latest Captain America yet because there’s not only some awesome action, but plenty of character development as well.

        Now, part of that was due to there being an earlier Captain America film to build upon, but there’s no reason why it cannot be done more often.

        The problem with the Star Trek reboots are that they aren’t even laying the groundwork for decent character development.

      • rrcivil

        I saw it and thought it was great , but it still proves my point that no TV show will ever will ever have that much action. The cap movie clips in Agents of shield don’t count.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        What about Arrow? It’s a bit soapy for my tastes, but when I used to watch I recall some decent fight scenes. And there’s character development, I just don’t happen to like it much.

      • rrcivil

        I watch Arrow and mostly like it. But if you really time out the action scenes they will be a pretty small amount of time compared the talking and yelling.

    • MJ

      I agree. But I also think the Orci might be able to accomplish this.

  • http://mattedscreen.blogspot.com/ TheMattedScreen

    …they could just reboot the reboot – Paramount is doing that with Friday the 13th after all, why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak?

  • Gibster

    Why not get away from doing the Klingons and the Romulans to death and try something new? Surely there’s enough material from the old series to warrant going where no reboot has gone before. Why not play with, The Doomsday Machine episode? Or, The Tholian Web? Or, Trelayne from The Squire of Gothos episode? Or a showdown with the Gorn? Or something involving Harcourt Fenton “Harry” Mudd?

    • MJ

      I agree 100%.

    • mbmarquis69

      I would go one step further and say it should be even more original and feature an adventure we haven’t seen before. It’s supposed to be a new universe where things were shaken up so anything is possible. So why go back and retell stories that have already been told?

      I suspect the reason is because existing stories are easier to adapt and “remix” than creating an original story from scratch. Just change a few details and keep the familiarity so the fans will feel comfortable, or something. I think they should take more risks and go in unexpected directions, but sadly, that doesn’t seem likely.

  • MJ

    I am pretty skeptical about this.

  • http://www.youtube.com/somejackball somejackball

    well, as long as it fun.. We must attempt.. Time Travel!! let’s do time travel guys, are you listening!?? let’s have some fun! =)

  • wafflehaus

    Someone call David Lynch.

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