Comic-Con: Warner Bros. and Zack Snyder Officially Announce Superman/Batman WORLD’S FINEST Movie by Reading THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS Passage

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At the end of Warner Bros.’ massive panel, Zack Snyder was introduced onstage in a surprise appearance, which unfortunately was spoiled a bit earlier today.  Snyder took the lectern from moderator Chris Hardwick, “because some shit’s gonna happen up here,” he said.  He thanked the audience for supporting Man of Steel, and then said he knows there’s a lot of speculation about the sequel.  Snyder continued:

“It’s official that we are gonna make another Superman movie… The truth is you don’t want me to tell you what the movie’s about, but I can say that maybe there’s a single element that will be in the film that I could help you out with…”

Snyder then introduced Man of Steel actor Harry Lennix to the stage to read something, saying, “We’re not adapting this thing, but it is the thing that will help tell this story.”  He proceeded to read a passage from the Frank Miller comic The Dark Knight Returns.  More after the jump.

dark knight returns comicLennix read:

“I want you to remember, Clark, in all the years to come, in all your most private moments. I want you to remember my hand at your throat.  I want you to remember the one man who beat you.”

World’s Finest is officially on.  The room went dark, the Superman logo came up on the screen, and then a big black Batman logo appeared behind the S.  The crowd went absolutely nuts, and when the lights came up, Hardwick exclaimed, “What the shit was that?!”

Your move, Marvel.

Here is the official press release:

NEXT DC SUPER HERO MOVIE IN PRE-PRODUCTION

Director Zack Snyder Unites Superman and Batman in One Explosive New Film

BURBANK, CA, July 20, 2013 – On the heels of the worldwide success of “Man of Steel,” director Zack Snyderis bringing together the two greatest Super Heroes of all time—Batman and Superman—for the first time on the big screen. The announcement was made today by Greg Silverman, President, Creative Development and Worldwide Production, and Sue Kroll, President, Worldwide Marketing and International Distribution,Warner Bros. Pictures.

The current hit, “Man of Steel,” has taken in more than $630 million at the worldwide box office to date, and climbing. Along with its star, Henry Cavill, the upcomingfilm brings back Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane. The new Batman has yet to be cast.

Snyder is co-writing the story with David S. Goyer, who will then pen the screenplay. Production is expected to begin in 2014, with an anticipated release date inSummer 2015.

man-of-steel-poster-henry cavillSilverman stated, “Zack Snyder is an incredibly talented filmmaker, but beyond that, he’s a fan first and he utterly gets this genre. We could not think of anyone better suited to the task of bringing these iconic Super Heroes to the screen in his own way.” Kroll added, “We are thrilled to be back in business with Zack and his team on this next movie. The success of ‘Man of Steel’ is a wonderful testament to the love and support that both fans and new audiences, worldwide, have for these characters. We are very excited to see what Zack has in store for all of us.”

Diane Nelson, President, DC Entertainment, noted,“Superman and Batman together on the big screen is a dream come true for DC fans everywhere. All of us at DCEntertainment could not be more excited for Zack’s continuing vision for the DC Universe.”

Zack Snyder, who made a surprise appearance at Comic-Con today, breaking the news to audiences there, later said, “I’m so excited to begin working again with Henry Cavill in the world we created, and I can’t wait to expand the DC Universe in this next chapter. Let’s face it, it’s beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off, since they are the greatest Super Heroes in the world.”

The new film brings back Charles Roven and Deborah Snyder as producers. This time, Christopher Nolan and Emma Thomas are serving as executive producers, along with Benjamin Melniker and Michael E. Uslan.

Thomas offered, “Whilst our ‘Dark Knight’ trilogy is complete, we have every confidence that Zack’s fresh interpretation will take the character in a new and exciting direction. His vision for Superman opened the door to a whole new universe and we can’t wait to see what Zack does with these characters.”

The film is based on Superman characters created by Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster, and Batman characters created by Bob Kane, published by DC Entertainment.

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  • Voltron

    I just peed my pants a little. So does this mean that Batman may be some sort of antagonist in the movie? That could be really cool. Yet the fact that Goyer and Snyder are writing this together worries me. Snyder and Goyer are not the best writers when by themselves, and sometimes two wrongs do not necessarily make a right.

    • N.A.M

      Well Snyder is just helping with the story not the script. I have trust in Goyer, Man of Steel’s script wasn’t perfect but it was still damn good – it managed to humanize supes and create an emotional arc for him. Plus Goyer has worked on Nolan’s Bat trilogy as a writer so I trust he knows what he’s doing when it comes to Batman.

      • Voltron

        You do raise some good points. The DK trilogy is up there with Star Wars as one of my favorite trilogies of all time, and even though MOS had pacing issues in the beginning, it is currently my favorite CBM. What has me worried is that he penned the Ghost Rider movies and the Blade movies- most of which were terrible. But I’ll be optimistic and say maybe it’s just the Marvel properties that he can’t write :)

      • 1micmcna1@yahoo.com

        I would have to disagree with you and N.A.M. Sure Goyer worked on the Dark Knight Trilogy… but so did Johnathon and Christopher Nolan. I think that Johnathon was the one who is best suited to write these films as he has a better resume than Goyer in my opinion (this going back to Memento.

      • Voltron

        That is also true as well. Chris and Jonathan Nolan were integral to the stories in the DK trilogy. And while Goyer penned the script for MOS, Nolan helped develop the story. So I wonder how much of the ideas and themes that were presented in these movies presented by Goyer, or the Nolan brothers? Now my optimism is sinking again. Dang it!

      • 1micmcna1@yahoo.com

        I would have to disagree with you and N.A.M. Sure Goyer worked on the Dark Knight Trilogy… but so did Johnathon and Christopher Nolan. I think that Johnathon was the one who is best suited to write these films as he has a better resume than Goyer in my opinion (this going back to Memento.

      • Lulz 2 Be Had

        The script was fetid monkey shite and if you don’t think so you are a simpleton.
        On a serious note since Dark Knight Rises was Nolan’s Return of the Jedi (but crappier) does that make the new batman movie he’s producing his Phantom Menace? All signs point to yes.

      • Jay_Cali

        You’re a fucking moron.

      • Sherlock

        Just shut the fuck up!

  • SamBerns

    I am overly excited that were being introduced to batman as a non main character. Hes just this shady character that we know is Batman, but we don’t know much else! I find that mystery to be epic.Especially how in the modern Justice Leagues Batman acts as an outsider, this is perfect.

  • SamBerns

    I am overly excited that were being introduced to batman as a non main character. Hes just this shady character that we know is Batman, but we don’t know much else! I find that mystery to be epic.Especially how in the modern Justice Leagues Batman acts as an outsider, this is perfect.

    • 1micmcna1

      I don’t think that’s how they’re approaching this, especially if they’re going to make this part of a JL build-up. We would need two characters we can wholly identify with and not just one who we know and the other who is on the fringe.

    • 1micmcna1

      I don’t think that’s how they’re approaching this, especially if they’re going to make this part of a JL build-up. We would need two characters we can wholly identify with and not just one who we know and the other who is on the fringe.

  • PolakNarodowiec

    WOW. Even the biggest haters must agree that it’s super awesome news.

    • The Dark Lulz Returns

      Nope!

      • Murdoch

        He said Haters . . . piss drinking trolls don’t apply.

      • Murdoch

        He said Haters . . . piss drinking trolls don’t apply.

  • Dude Guy

    Yes, let’s bring the grounded gritty and more realistic super hero, Batman. Into the Superman universe, you know…the flying red caped super alien who’s actually a journalist. I don’t even….. -_-

    • http://thenonessentials.blogspot.com/ Sean Chandler

      I don’t even know how to respond to such an unusual criticism. These characters have been appearing together in the same universe for 75 years. They’ve simply never shared a film universe.

      • Lulz 4 EVA

        He’s taking issue with how stupid it trying to “ground” a f–king invincible space God with laserbeams in his eyes in “reality”. It’s a marketing ploy used to make nerds feel self important. Worked on you, lulz ;)

      • MIXTER

        Without a sertain amount of “grounded in reality” we could end up with any old shyte on screen from comics. ie.. Krypto the Super dog, and did you know one of Supermans villains was a kryptonian Gorilla? And Batman had Clay-face (basically sandman but wetter) And lots of other shameless characters that suck. Even the new animated Batman episode, i just witnessed a talking frog, like Mr Toad from Wind in the Willows. No thanks!

        So, grounding something far fetched in reality makes sense, however, i do agree, it can go too far, and spoil potential. Thats why we couldnt get Mr Freeze or Riddler into Nolans films, even though I could think of plenty of ways of seeing them grounded. But if not balanced, it can be restricting. MOS did a great job i thought. Super beings from space, on a real Earth.

    • Jay_Cali

      Your post makes no sense whatsoever.

    • Brian Newman

      Avengers had Hawkeye and Black Widow alongside a god and the Hulk. The Justice League version of Batman is far more dangerous than Hawkeye and Black Widow.

  • NICK НΛRT

    this could be so awesome. i agree with the others though, i would prefer to not have goyer as the only one writing the script. hopefully they will bring in a second, more seasoned writer to do another draft later on

  • sense11

    WOW :) :) :) :)

    TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY

    • sense11

      And i think its going to be Bale and Probably Levitt as Nightwing, Bale’s Batman comes out of retirement because Lex has somehow turned Superman against the Earth

      Just a Hunch

      • GunzOfNavarone

        Bale won’t do it. He said he’s done with the character.

      • WhereDidYouTrain? ON A FARM?!

        The person who disliked your comment is in denial.

        It’s going to be a NEW Batman people. Accept it.

      • http://thenonessentials.blogspot.com/ Sean Chandler

        Given how many times Nolan and Bale have clearly stated they’re done, this seems unlikely.

      • MIXTER

        I hope they are done, i want to see Josh Brolin as Batman, with a new suit and new take on the character, more like the comics.

        However, Nolan as i recall, was done with Batman after Begins, then again after TDK so he said. Then we had 2 sequels after begins, so what he says is not set in stone. However, I wanna see Snyders vision of Batman, not just Nolans yet again. MOS was a NEW Superman, and at its very least, it was interesting and unique. I want to see more mystery revealed in a new Batman, not just the one we already seen 3 times.

      • 1micmcna1

        I understand you wanting to see a New batman and not just Nolan’s but at the same time just think about this, do you really think you’re going to get a wholly new batman from the same team that brought you the last one? See this has been my gripe about this whole batman debacle is that it is akin to rebooting something with the same team behind it. An example would be like with the new Evil Dead film (if you saw it as well as the original), you had the same producers and such behind it which was OK… but only after twenty plus years. Now imagine if they did that same remake but a few years after the original came out. Even with Spider-man it was different because they had an enitrely different team. Here, we have Goyer as a leftover from Nolan’s batman as well as Nolan producing. And they are trying to have this more realistic tone just like they did with Nolan’s batman. I don’t know about it.

      • 80sRobot

        They could side-step things and continue the continuity of The Dark Knight series. They could say the trilogy is “done” because it focused on the journey of Bruce Wayne. And so they could have Levitt’s John Blake be Batman in this movie, and throw in an appearance by Morgan Freeman. The question is whether everybody involved feels that Bruce Wayne is needed in this. Also, would Levitt be believable as Batman? To be honest, I have doubts he could pull it off, and I like the actor.

  • Matt Sallusti

    Yes! Finally!

  • N.A.M

    Very excited. Man of Steel was fantastic and now add Batman (a character Goyer already has a ton of experience with), this movie will be huge!

  • Matt Sallusti

    Nolan needs to be involved

    • 80sRobot

      He’s executive producer. Just as he was on MoS. He also had a hand in the script of MoS. So it’s probably safe to assume he’ll have some creative influence.

  • gypsy danger

    your move marvel? dc can only hope for the same level of success as marvel. introducing a whole new batman with a new origin story into a superman film is a terrible idea.

    • GunzOfNavarone

      They said months back, they were doing away with the origin idea this time around. When we pick up with Batman, he’s been batman for some time.

      • Daniel O’Reilly

        Exactly how it should be.

    • dawko

      Everybody knows Batman’s origin story!!…

      • 1micmcna1

        Again, I would have to disagree with this statement (someone said the same thing at the convention). The first origin story we got of Batman was Nolan’s (at least on film). Think about it, Burton’s batman was already up and kicking and around. He didn’t go through the discovery of being batman and such. Sure there were flashbacks of his childhood tragedy, but that’s not the Full origin story only the reason for him becoming batman, and not how he became. Someone who didn’t need an origin story was Superman really, as it had been done multiple times on film and television.

      • dawko

        But Supes didn’t have an origin story movie since 1978…that’s a loooong time…You can say that it wasn’t needed, but Snyder’s MoS is a much better origin story than the Donner’s one. Batman on the other hand, thanks to the popularity of TDK, everyone went back and watched Batman Begins, and the we had a trilogy that established the character, so if you place new Batman into MoS 2, you don’t need to explain his actions, everybody knows BATMAN!!!

      • 1micmcna1

        But notice I mentioned film and tv. For superman, the origin was told both on Lois and Clark in the 90s as well as smallville just recently, both of which were popular for a time to the viewing public. Outside of the cartoons, Batman hadn’t ever had an origin story.

      • dawko

        He has one now, one that everybody knows and is OK with it…Normal viewers are not gonna be like:”Oh, this is wrong, this is not my batman…”The same thing happened with MoS and people are OK with it…though they might had some problems with it, the beauty of sequels is that you can polish things…that’s why TDK is probably the best comic book movie ever made

      • 1micmcna1

        Also I would contend that you do have to explain because its a different universe. See in the previous batmans we all knew there was no superman and thusly a costumes guy running around saving the day was believable. Here, we have an allpowerful alien being who fought for the world. If we are to believe Batman already existed then the question is why didn’t he try doing anything when six came. Other earthlings, mainly military, were trying at least something. And if he didn’t exist then is his motivation not just his parents death but supermans sudden appearance?

      • dawko

        I am sure they will explain that properly :)

      • 1micmcna1

        OK. I’ll try to give them the benefit of the doubt, though I would contend that MOS is far more controversial than either of us might think. See, since the last superman and even the Dark Knight came out, the landscape of comicbook movies have changed because of what Marvel is doing (not just with the Avengers, but Spiderman, Xmen and Wolverine). For a long time, DC was sitting pretty because Marvel wasn’t doing anything, so they could mess up and be fine and simply reboot. Hell, even those two other Batman movies with clooney and Kilmer had people’s interest piqued. But again, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. But again, the fact that there is an acceptable story now from DK series is my point. It might be confusing to people because they are asked to accept that origin without that batman.

      • dawko

        Except that Marvel is not doing X-men, Spiderman or Wolverine…

      • 1micmcna1

        Again, I would have to disagree with this statement (someone said the same thing at the convention). The first origin story we got of Batman was Nolan’s (at least on film). Think about it, Burton’s batman was already up and kicking and around. He didn’t go through the discovery of being batman and such. Sure there were flashbacks of his childhood tragedy, but that’s not the Full origin story only the reason for him becoming batman, and not how he became. Someone who didn’t need an origin story was Superman really, as it had been done multiple times on film and television.

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  • Guest

    Terrible news for fans of the Frank Miller graphic novel… Nolan already ruined several memorable quotes and ideas for his dumb movies , and if they keep referencing it for movies that are not an adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, then one proper adaptation of that great comic book may never arrive, and maybe it’s better that way… still grabbing the Miller book to rip off a line claiming “We are not gonna adapt this thing” is such an insult, it’s kin to take only the tomato sauce from the best cooked plate of Italian pasta and use it to condiment a cheap fast food hamburger.

    • Kpaqu1

      Stop being overly sensitive. It’s just a comic book.

      • Kriptonian Knight

        He’s not overly sensitive. He’s a freaking idiot!

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  • $$$

    As if all the product placement in MoS wasn’t enough… DC is really cashing in now in a pathetic attempt to become more like Marvel. I guess we can expect one big superhero circle jerk from here on out instead of focusing on telling proper stories with the power to stand on their own merits.

    • http://thenonessentials.blogspot.com/ Sean Chandler

      How dare they give fans what they want and by creating a connected universe?!?!? How dare they make the movie universe resemble the comic universe?!?!?

    • Jay_Cali

      You’re a moron, how exactly is this a bad thing? us fans get to watch a great movie.

  • The Driver

    The only way I can see this working is if the movie completely jettisoned ALL Batman backstory. Have his presence and the cowl explain themselves. Never show him outside the cape until the end of the movie. Have him be a complete mystery. I swear to God if they decide to do this and interject stupid origin elements it will completely kill any fun this movie might be. No one wants to see set up of individual characters in a team up movie.

    Let the Batman sequel itself fill in all the holes and for all that is right on this planet do NOT CAST FUCKING ARMIE HAMMER. He is such a bland and mediocre choice based on jawline and looks and he’s too freaking tall (he’ll make Cavill look like a midget with the cowl. Someone else please. Just throwing this out there but…Ryan Gosling. Perfect height, age, and PROVEN terrific actor.

    • Hunter

      fassbender

    • MIXTER

      Josh Brolin!

      • TheDarkKnightReturns

        I think Benedict Cumberbatch would be awesome as Batman / Bruce Wayne!

      • Guy Smiley

        A skinny, pasty Batman? Just because they tried that once (Keaton) doesn’t mean they should go that route again. Unless he pulls a Chris Pratt and bulks up, forget it.

      • mbmarquis69

        Cumberbatch is a great actor, but please, can we stop casting him to play characters who he is nothing like physically? I had my fill of that from STID.

      • TheDarkKnightReturns

        I think Benedict Cumberbatch would be awesome as Batman / Bruce Wayne!

      • Strong Enough

        josh is too old

      • Marc

        so what?

      • Strong Enough

        can’t have an old batman and a young superman. makes no sense. plus if this batman is going to star in solo films down the years he needs to be young

      • Scott

        I’d say that an older Batman would work for this…Superman is very young and green in this – they need a grizzled and wise Batman that has been around the block to show him the ropes. The LAST thing we need is some 20 something actor who looks like a model to play Batman.

      • Strong Enough

        but that is what we need. this actor is going to star in not only superman/batman movie but his own solo movies and future justice leagues. we can’t have a 55 year old batman on screen. won’t work

    • Guy Smiley

      Karl Urban, maybe? Just a thought.

      • whoa

        Sam Witwer?? Ryan Gosling would be awesome though.

      • wolfskin

        Sam Witwer would be the only saving grace in adding Batman.

      • Marc

        ok, first ryan gosling is blond and second he isn’t imposing as batman should be so no thanks.

    • BruceWayne

      matt bomer.

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  • Unique Jenique

    Jim Caviezel for Batman 2015 :)

    • The Driver

      He’s 44 homie. Nearly 15 years on Cavill.

    • Gary

      Then you’re casting Superman’s father from the Count of Monte Cristo as Batman.

    • Gary

      Then you’re casting Superman’s father from the Count of Monte Cristo as Batman.

  • HeSaidSheSaidReviewSite

    Hey, let’s reboot a character who’s most recent reboot just finished its run a year ago. We are beyond an impatient, ADD, obnoxious society.

    • HeSaidSheSaidReviewSite’s Dad

      By the time it will hit moviegoers and fans, the most recent movie in the trilogy will have been nearly four years old, the sequel nearly eight years old, and the origin, ten. As hard as it might be to wrap your head around the idea, it takes time, adequate pace, and preemptive measures to introduce a movie, especially a reboot; they can’t just throw it together the night before its release date while you’re tucked away in your footie pajamas.

      • lovinfilm

        nonsense! He is right, its far too soon for a new Batman.
        Comic book junkies are ruining films!

    • Jay_Cali

      Seeing as how this movie isn’t going to be released until 2015, it’s not that big a deal.

    • Guy Smiley

      I would prefer a second, standalone Superman film myself, but they want to make a big splash and begin the build up to Justice League… And they appear to have done just that.

      I just hope this movie doesn’t make seem Supes look a dope and a tool, the way TDKReturns did. I also hope they don’t have Bats defeating Supes, like in TDKReturns. I liked not having any kryptonite in MOS, so I’d prefer they not bring it into this next movie either. I get that this isn’t going to be an adaptation of TDKReturns, just saying that I don’t this sequel undermining the character of Supes.

      Also, they will have to seriously rethink the new Batman. Since TDKRises had a Batman who couldn’t take out Bane without help from Catwoman, how does he possibly pose a challenge to Superman? Probably with kryptonite, sure, but I was hoping they wouldn’t resort to that so soon.

      Either way, I hope Batman is just a smaller part of the movie, and that they quickly put differences aside and become friends/colleagues soon enough.

      A reintroduction of Batman will probably overshadow everything else about this movie though, and I feel that Superman should get another movie first, in order to develop Clark Kent and the rest of Superman’s supporting case.

      • Guy Smiley

        Sorry… “supporting CAST.”

  • bop

    This will be problematic from a story stand point and wont really work but it’s possible it could be entertaining I guess.

    • MIXTER

      Aside from Bruce Waynes
      satelite getting destroyed by Zod, and its remains falling infront of
      Lex-Corp building, Both Lex and Bats have legitimate cause to be in the
      sequel. Reason, KRYPTONITE!!!

      Kryptonite was basically created by the start of the terraforming
      process of that World Engine machine in MOS. It weakened Superman when
      he was near it. The black rocks not glowing green Kryptonite that were
      familiar with. Its likely Lex will discover this stuff whilst perhapse
      rebuilding Metroplolis. And Batman also will obviously take an interest
      in Kryptonite too, as its the only weapon that can defeat Superman. So,
      MOS was obviously setting up this for its sequel.

      I do hope they reboot Batman though, Josh Brolin for an Arkham City
      style Batman. One thing we’ll get with Zach Snyder, is a cool costume!
      His Night Owl suit for Watchmen was great, and he was destined to make
      Batman and Superman just based on Watchmen.

      • 1micmcna1

        I’m sorry but what does the terraformer have to do with Kryptonite?

      • Littertray

        When the teraformer was transforming the Earth into Krypton, it would have created Kryptonite as that is what Krypton was made off. Obvious really, from a plot point of view.

      • 1micmcna1

        Actually that is a misconception about terraforming, one which they even said in the movie. They were changing the density of the earth’s core thereby making it a similar environment. This, however doesn’t change the chemical structure of the elements. In other words all the copper in the world wouldn’t magically become kryptonite, but rather a much denser copper. Basically, they were only changing the atmosphere and not the elements that make up earth. I don’t know where people are getting this they created kryptonite thing. That’s not science nor is it what they said in the movie.

      • Littertray

        But in the movie Supes is severely weakend while on the ship and in close proximity to the World Shaper machine. On the ship Zod points out that it is because supes body was rejecting Kryptons natural atmosphere because of being brought up on Earth and being used to it’s atmosphere. As I said from a plot point of view they could take that part as a starting point. Maybe it rained and elements of the atmosphere change seep’s into some part of the eco-system creating say a crystaline structure like a stalagmite in a cave. It’s a movie not a science fact documentry.

      • 1micmcna1

        Notice what you wrote though. “He wasn’t used to the krypton Atmosphere. The atmosphere and the chemical and elemental makeup of a planet are 2 different things. For instance, take the moon. Now the moon doesn’t have the same atmosphere as earth, however if u look up what the moon is made from according to NASA samples and such, you will see that it shares in some of the same elements common to earth. In other words u aren’t going to find a completely different periodic table up there. As for the terraformer itself and soda ship, they were legitimately created from something completely different than earths known elements, so they would have that affect on him when in close proximity. But if u don’t actually have part of those ships, you don’t have kryptonite. You understand what I’m saying? Sure the atmosphere was different but it was the chemical makeup of the ships that effected him.

      • 1micmcna1

        I’m sorry but what does the terraformer have to do with Kryptonite?

  • Alex Hajna

    I’m not sure how much I like this. I mean, I love Batman — I’m a “fanboy”, if you want to call it that — but continuing his story so soon might feel rushed and forced.

    On the other hand, SUPERMAN AND BATMAN IN A LIVE ACTION MOVIE HELL FUCKING YES OH MY GOD PLEASE PLEASE YES HOLY SHIT YYEEEESSSS!

    As for who could play Batman… Michael Fasbender, Zachary Quinto, Joshua Jackson, Jim Caveziel, Rafe Spall, Sharlto Copely, Charlie Hunnam, Michael Raymond-James…. the possibilities are endless!

    • Bob

      Fassbender seems like the obvious choice but it prob wont happen. Gosling seems like a good choice, is he who I picture as Bats? Some of him reminds me of Bats, like his parts in Drive and Crazy Stupid Love(the Wayne Part). Prob is I cant think of a no name actor to play Bats, they would prob just get shat kn in comparison to Bale.

    • Bob

      Fassbender seems like the obvious choice but it prob wont happen. Gosling seems like a good choice, is he who I picture as Bats? Some of him reminds me of Bats, like his parts in Drive and Crazy Stupid Love(the Wayne Part). Prob is I cant think of a no name actor to play Bats, they would prob just get shat kn in comparison to Bale.

    • Guy Smiley

      I can’t stand Caveziel, Bible-thumper that he is, but I admit he’d look the part. He’s probably too old though. I like Quinto and Jackson, but neither one reminds me even remotely of Bruce Wayne, so I don’t know where you got those ideas from. No one would take either of them seriously.

      Fassbender could be great (would he do another comic book character?), and for some reason Karl Urban (again, would he do another of these films?) popped into my head too. I haven’t seen enough of Copely to know how he would do. Seems like an offbeat choice. Jon Hamm would be great, but he maybe too old too.

      I have no idea who the other people you mentioned are, but after Bale and the success of the Nolan trilogy, they will be hard pressed to find a new Batman. I just hope the focus on Batman doesn’t take away from continuing the develop the new Superman in this movie universe.

    • Littertray

      A strange choice would be Bradley Cooper. He can pull of the Bruce Wayne part pretty easy and he is physically big enough to play Batman. I know most people think of him playing the Flash but Bob Kane thought Val Kilmer was a perfect choice for Bruce Wayne and Cooper falls into that kind of look.

  • Nick

    Batman better be smarter in this. Greatest despctive kinda smart. And I’m torn because this is all great except the name Zach Snyder.. Imagine the fight sequences. Batman going slowmo and then back to normal pace, back to slowmo. Superman on the shaky cam then the snap zoom. My brain will melt from the poor directing

    • sense11

      Did you watch MOS, not one slow motion action shot in the movie, just thought you should know

  • Oolie zool

    My initial reaction was kind of “ah fuck this”, but after thinking about it and considering where Superman is now after Man of Steel, this could work. Basically the world has this new god-like being that just destroyed cities battling other god-like beings that he basically brought here. Nobody knows how to take this, if they can really trust him, etc. Batman will be investigating him, tracking him, figuring him out and they’ll somehow come to blows over this while another, bigger threat (my guess is luthor) plots something behind the scenes. I can see it working pretty well if they cast properly.

  • Slave

    Thanks Avengers. If it weren’t for your movie, we wouldn’t see what will be an even better one! I mean, unless you’d include Spiderman and F4 in your current line up, your lineup of wisecracking, trying-to-hard-to-be-funny losers and Scarlett Johansson is no match for a movie with Man Of Steel and The Dark Knight in it.

  • MIXTER

    I’m ecstatic!!! I loved what
    they did with MOS. It had its faults, but more to do with the “feel” and
    construction/editing etc than what they did with the characters. But a
    sequel, without all the flashback style storytelling could be awesome!

    As for people saying Batman is shoe horned into this sequel, you
    couldn’t have been paying attention in MOS. Aside from Bruce Waynes
    satelite getting destroyed by Zod, and its remains falling infront of
    Lex-Corp building, Both Lex and Bats have legitimate cause to be in the
    sequel. Reason, KRYPTONITE!!!

    Kryptonite was basically created by the start of the terraforming
    process of that World Engine machine in MOS. It weakened Superman when
    he was near it. The black rocks not glowing green Kryptonite that were
    familiar with. Its likely Lex will discover this stuff whilst perhapse
    rebuilding Metroplolis. And Batman also will obviously take an interest
    in Kryptonite too, as its the only weapon that can defeat Superman. So,
    MOS was obviously setting up this for its sequel.

    I do hope they reboot Batman though, Josh Brolin for an Arkham City
    style Batman. One thing we’ll get with Zach Snyder, is a cool costume!
    His Night Owl suit for Watchmen was great, and he was destined to make
    Batman and Superman just based on Watchmen.

  • Futur3Fo3

    Ultraman will break the Bat.

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  • Kriptonian Knight

    People were asking how were they ever going to go bigger in a MOS sequel?

    Well, they just did! What’s better then a throw down between the last son of Krypton and the caped crusader? JL is on it’s way!

  • Dmag

    Just thinking how awesome Karl Urban would be as Batman. Looking forward to this either way. Man of Steel is a great start.

  • DoobieDave

    I have been saying this for a while now…if they think there is any chance at doing a Justice League movie, they need to do a Superman/Batman movie first.

  • 1micmcna1

    OK, I’ll be the first to say it: I don’t like this idea as the situation currently stands. Here’s why: while MOS was OK (not great or really even good in my opinion), there seem to be some problems with this being a Batman Vs. Superman kind of film. Again, let me explain. Now this is all barring the return of Bale and the continuation of the Dark Knight story. In MOS-universe, who is the first superhero? Is it Batman or Superman. Because if it’s Batman, then we may have an answer to that question of who was Superman emulating when running around in that cape at the end of the movie. But of course we would then have the question of what’s been going on in Gotham City and why hadn’t Clark ever done anything or at least gone there? If it’s superman who is first to wear the cape and become a hero, then we have the question of what inspired him to do such a thing? This would refer back to the whole speech from Jor-el where people are inspired by Superman to take up heroism. BUT the big problem in both cases is the inspiration factor of this. If you are so inspired by this person going in either direction, then what need would you have to fight them? Now I know what the comic books say but this is in the film world where they’ve already changed a lot. My thing is that if this is a new batman being introduced to us, even if we know that he has a backstory and all of that, it might be hard for general movie-goers to accept the tension between the two seeing as how Superman just saved the world. However, if they do use some form of Nolan’s Dark Knight it actually would make more sense because we have a legitimate reason why Batman might be angry at Superman (as the thought would be Kal-el also stood as a by-stander while Gotham went mad during Bane’s takeover). I think it would oddly enough be better to introduce Batman in a Flash or JL movie rather than Superman movie if he is going to antagonize Superman in any way.

    • Bob

      It won’t be Superman vs Batman…..it’s Superman and Batman working together, as a duo. Working together, not fighting each other. Then they eventually form the Justice League together…

      • 1micmcna1micmcn

        But bob did you read the quote they read? In the reference, superman does fight against batman. Even if its only one fight, does it really make sense? Again with the quote it should be easy to see how I or another fan can get that idea, as they seem to be selling it so far as a duel between them at some point in the film.

      • Strong Enough

        they are using TDKR as a crutch but not adapting it. read it again jackass

      • 1micmcna1

        No need for name calling but sense you went there I suggest you read it again dummy. Plus, I was actually there and thusly know the tone they were going for. Especially the way they read it made it seem like they were doing an allout battle between the two(something which has been done in the comics a few times). Man I hate the namecalling. He was simply making a point and I made a counterpoint based on what I saw at the event.

      • Strong Enough

        unless you have something official you’re talking out your ass and just assuming. wait until confirmation first

      • Ax6xK

        “We don’t know what we’re going to call it yet – Superman vs Batman, Batman vs Superman – but those two guys on screen, that’s happening,” – David S Goyer

        “We are not adapting Miller’s 1986 miniseries, but The Dark Knight Returns passage will help “tell you something” about the upcoming film.” – Zack Snyder

        “Let’s face it, it’s beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off.” – Zack Snyder

        Is that offical enough for you?

      • Strong Enough

        you proved my point lmao!

      • Ax6xK

        Using official statements from the writher and director proves your point how?

        The fact that Snyder introduced the film saying “this will tell you something” with a line from a fight between the two means I’m telling you they will fight. He even later said, “it’s beyond mythological to have Superman and our new Batman facing off.” Key phrase there “FACING OFF”

        Now your just being argumentative and acting as though you know everything and the truth be damned you know more than anyone.

        Here is some more facts for you to ignore.
        Per IGN.com
        Goyer said the following at the Superman 75th Anniversary Panel, but the reveal was drowned out in the craziness of the day’s bigger Hall H panels: “We aren’t sure if the title will be Batman Vs Superman or Superman Vs Batman, but they will face off.” (Snyder did say on Saturday that that the iconic The Dark Knight Returns — wherein the two fight it out — will “inform” the film.)
        Also looking into which URLs Warner Bros. owns that track with those titles. The site reports that they (WB) own both SupermanVsBatman.com and BatmanVsSuperman.com, plus BatmanVsSupermanMovie.com

        Let me guess, more insults and a douche attitude as your rebuttal.

      • Strong Enough

        oh god why are you doing this? It clearly states that they aren’t adapting TDKR but using it as a crutch. I never said they don’t fight each other, but this movie will be more than just between them. And that is what I was talking about with that clown until you interjected like captain save a ho!

      • Ax6xK

        Back peddling and name calling?
        Whatever man.

      • Strong Enough

        typical reply. i don’t expect any better

      • Strong Enough

        oh god why are you doing this? It clearly states that they aren’t adapting TDKR but using it as a crutch. I never said they don’t fight each other, but this movie will be more than just between them. And that is what I was talking about with that clown until you interjected like captain save a ho!

  • 1micmcna1

    OK, I’ll be the first to say it: I don’t like this idea as the situation currently stands. Here’s why: while MOS was OK (not great or really even good in my opinion), there seem to be some problems with this being a Batman Vs. Superman kind of film. Again, let me explain. Now this is all barring the return of Bale and the continuation of the Dark Knight story. In MOS-universe, who is the first superhero? Is it Batman or Superman. Because if it’s Batman, then we may have an answer to that question of who was Superman emulating when running around in that cape at the end of the movie. But of course we would then have the question of what’s been going on in Gotham City and why hadn’t Clark ever done anything or at least gone there? If it’s superman who is first to wear the cape and become a hero, then we have the question of what inspired him to do such a thing? This would refer back to the whole speech from Jor-el where people are inspired by Superman to take up heroism. BUT the big problem in both cases is the inspiration factor of this. If you are so inspired by this person going in either direction, then what need would you have to fight them? Now I know what the comic books say but this is in the film world where they’ve already changed a lot. My thing is that if this is a new batman being introduced to us, even if we know that he has a backstory and all of that, it might be hard for general movie-goers to accept the tension between the two seeing as how Superman just saved the world. However, if they do use some form of Nolan’s Dark Knight it actually would make more sense because we have a legitimate reason why Batman might be angry at Superman (as the thought would be Kal-el also stood as a by-stander while Gotham went mad during Bane’s takeover). I think it would oddly enough be better to introduce Batman in a Flash or JL movie rather than Superman movie if he is going to antagonize Superman in any way.

  • bidi

    i’m just really conflicted about my feelings towards this idea. i LOVE Batman, and am not opposed to seeing him fight against/alongside Superman, but i’m not sure if i want it in this universe. i was secretly hoping that Man of Steel wouldn’t really catch on so they could reboot the whole thing, including the tone and feel of the universe. the Arkham video games are an almost perfect example of what the next batch of movies should be like. it’s realistic enough that we could believe this city exists, but at the same time characters like Mr. Freeze and Clayface don’t seem that out of place. Superman and other heroes/villains would fit in perfectly to this universe. if things fall into place, i’ll be the first person to admit i was wrong, and stand in line for the midnight showing. only time will tell i guess

    • 1micmcna1

      I would have to agree with you. While mos was ok, I still don’t like it as a base for all dc films going forward. I also don’t like that they still don’t have an overarching plan for all the shared universe films. It still feels like they are not fully sure what they want to do and are making things up as they go. Also I still feel like they should have had an mos 2 before this and let them write themselves out of the corner they got in. Just think, if this isn’t good or its we controversial as mos is (in a bad way; I already know people who don’t want to see a sequel) then they could risk spoiling 2 franchises–the only 2 they’ve managed to be successful with mind you.

  • bidi

    i’m just really conflicted about my feelings towards this idea. i LOVE Batman, and am not opposed to seeing him fight against/alongside Superman, but i’m not sure if i want it in this universe. i was secretly hoping that Man of Steel wouldn’t really catch on so they could reboot the whole thing, including the tone and feel of the universe. the Arkham video games are an almost perfect example of what the next batch of movies should be like. it’s realistic enough that we could believe this city exists, but at the same time characters like Mr. Freeze and Clayface don’t seem that out of place. Superman and other heroes/villains would fit in perfectly to this universe. if things fall into place, i’ll be the first person to admit i was wrong, and stand in line for the midnight showing. only time will tell i guess

  • lamenews

    bored!!!!!

    • Marc

      then why are you here? Go watch My Little Pony.

  • Ax6xK

    What!? Why does it have to be based on a story where they hate each other?!?!

    So that’s it? It’s a movie that revolves around Batman taking out Superman?
    Can we have them working together?
    You know like 99.9% of all Superman and Batman stories!

    • Guest

      who said that? Maybe they will fight each others for some reason but nobody said they are going to hate each others. Plus, I don’t the reason why they should fight.

    • mbmarquis69

      A good portion of Avengers running time was devoted to several members of the team actively disliking each other and/or fighting. And yet that was not a story about hate. They came together in the end. I don’t see any reason to think MOS 2 will be any different.

  • wolfskin

    Hmm. I would’ve liked a proper, Superman-building sequel before they drag in Batman (overshadowing Supes as he inevitably will, and proving Goyer and Snyder aren’t comfortable or can’t think of much else to do with the Man of Steel).

    Also, didn’t want a new Batman.

    And still don’t.

    And would have been glad to put off for as long as I possibly could.

    And now I feel the vitriol rising as I realize that what once started out as a series (I would have been happy with just the one film, Man of Steel, in any case) that I would buy into has been completely cut off for me at the first film–which was flawed, but likeable, and I felt could be redeemed by a (or any) future installment(s). (Or redeemed by a *ahem* new director or, at the least, a new editor.)

  • verb

    Snyder isn’t casting a 55-year old Batman in this movie. They really threw people off by reading that quote.

  • Jamesy

    Bruce Wayne owns the Daily Planet, have him visit Metropolis to deal with the aftermath of the battle in MOS. He has a meeting with Lois Lane to discuss holding an event of some kind to mark the celebration of rebuilding Metropolis. He see’s a shy Clark Kent in the background and is introduced, they shake hands. They both attend the event where Bruce locks eyes with Louis and is clearly attracted to her, Clark notices and this is where friction is introduced. Lex Luthor makes an appearance and an explosion of some sort happens, both Clark and Bruce dissapear…before reappearing as the Man of Steel and The Dark Knight. This is what i’d like to see happen.

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  • Calvin Hobbes

    Rebooting Batman? Tch. I can safely say that this is one movie I’ll be waiting for on Cable… in 2016. Marvel all the way. They have their ish together. DC is flailing in the dark night like a headless flying mammal.

  • Guest

    why some people think that it will be Superman vs Batman? Because of the speech? Who said that it is Batman who is talking?

  • H D Law

    … Well it’s about damn time!

    *ahem*

    I mean, yeah. I’m so excited for this movie I won’t be able to properly sleep until it comes out (just pass out from exhaustion after a few days) and I can’t wait to see how Batman deals with the MAN OF STEEL! my only gripe is that this didn’t happen sooner… or with better writers. Don’t get me wrong! these guys create great sets and visuals, and the things they can get the guys doing the cgi to create blow my mind! but they can’t write. So this is gonna be a coin toss. the question is, does it come up Heads, or spɐǝɥ?

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  • Myra Mughal

    why not christian bale as batman??? he should be in it else em not gona watch it -_-

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