THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 Viral Site Hints at Venom and Hobgoblin; Probably Just Fan-Baiting at This Point

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Last week, The Amazing Spider-Man 2‘s viral site, The Daily Bugle, hinted that Spencer Smythe could be in the movie, and therefore his “Spider-Slayer” robots could be included as well.  That’s plausible.  It’s directly referencing a villain, and Spider-Man‘s rogues gallery has plenty of mad scientists.  Additionally, the main villain, Electro (Jamie Foxx), controls electricity, robots run on electricity, etc.  It’s in the realm of possibility.

Then last night, The Daily Bugle comes along and just decides to mess with obsessive fans in order to churn out needless speculation.  Hit the jump for more.  The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opens in 3D on May 2, 2014.

venom-comic-book-coverFirst, The Daily Bugle mentions Curt Connors (Rhys Ifans).  That’s not necessarily a hint the Lizard will return.  It’s more of an epilogue, and since Ifans hasn’t been close to connected to The Amazing Spider-Man 2, I seriously doubt we’ll see the character.  There’s no pretending there, just a way to keep The Amazing Spider-Man mythos going without having leak into the new movie.  That’s fine.

And then it all goes to fan-baiting hell.  First, CS points out the byline, “Ned Leeds” links back to the comic where the character married Betty Brandt, but also turned out to be the Hobgoblin except then it was retconned to make him brainwashed into thinking he was the villain by Roderick Kingsley, the true Hobgoblin.  Mwahahahaha.

But that’s not all!  The article also mentions Anny Weying and Donald Menken.  Weying was the ex-wife of Eddie Brock (a.k.a. Venom) and she later took the alien symbiote to become “She-Venom” (I never read those comics; I assume the difference is that She-Venom has boobs).  As for Menken, he was an employee at Oscorp in The Amazing Spider-Man #239, which is when the Hobgoblin story began.

So what does this mean for The Amazing Spider-Man 2?  Let’s break it down. Electro and Rhino (Paul Giamatti) are the confirmed villains for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and then at the edges we have Chris Cooper as Norman Osborne (who became the Green Goblin in the comics), Dane DeHaan as Harry Osborne (who took on the mantle after his father died), and possibly Felicity Jones as Black Cat.  There’s also the shadowy figure who somehow got into Curt Connors cell at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man.  Finally, we have B.J. Novak and Colm Feore cast in unknown roles.

spider-man-hobgoblinBut you can only cram in so many villains, so let’s continue to assume the following: the Hobgoblin and Venom can’t fit into The Amazing Spider-Man 2 unless they get brief appearances or mentions.  So let’s push them back to The Amazing Spider-Man 3 and that’s where we’ll see these characters.  This is where it all starts to fall apart because Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman are still probably writing the third movie.  Since setting up three more villains takes time, the Sinister Six would probably only get half of the third movie, which is a waste of such a massive build up.  Thankfully, The Amazing Spider-Man 4 is due out on May 4, 2018.

And where did this all begin?  Revealed in the goddamned Daily Bugle viral site in the most esoteric way possible.  If this scenario pans out, then in 2018 please look back on this day—October 24, 2013—and say “I told you so!”

The point of the Daily Bugle’s article isn’t to clue you in on future villains.  It’s to get you talking about The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and drive the speculation machine.  And if you look at this article and the hits it will probably get, it worked.  Kudos, Sony.




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  • Kevin

    I’m pretty sure they hinted at Harry becoming Venom. But at this point, who knows?

    • brNdon

      Does that mean that Venom would be shorter and skinnier than he was in Spider-Man 3?

      • Nerdgasm

        You obviously have never read the comics. If done right Venom is a HULK like monster. It’s a different entity that grows in size when it takes over and Brock is reduced to background character.

      • brNdon

        If anything you validate my argument. Eddie Brock is big in the comics so when Venom took him over he was big and buff too. Topher Grace’s vemon was smaller than he is in the comics. Dane Dehann is even smaller than Toher Grace, therefore my crack at his potential size makes sense.

      • kins

        I think they’ll be going like Venom like in the Ultimate Spiderman game. Though Eddy Brock was pretty slim, when turning to venom, he was all buff and bulky. They’l certainly use CGI to enhance the character.

  • Kevin

    I’m pretty sure they hinted at Harry becoming Venom. But at this point, who knows?

  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    It’s Sony’s way of following Marvel’s playbook but with Villians instead of heroes as they only have the one to work with. If done correctly it will be great and look something like the Avengers. Or it will look forced and totally out of place in the movie as it will be overload of too many supporting characters. Sinister six was one of my favorites as a kid and there is a wide variety of villians they can choose as the team always had different people at certain times. Really hope they give Venom his proper dues this time around.

    • JBug

      I agree with you, but how can it work when there’s only one hero against all of these villains? Avengers works because the movie gives attention to each hero. in Sinister 6, these villains are automatically reduced henchmen, working for the kingpin or whoever else is running the show.

      • Nerdgasm

        Honestly it works better than Avengers cause the character levels in this should be off the chain. It’s like how Thor really had two things weighing him down in the movie of Avengers “Protecting Earth” and “It’s my brother doing it.” In the Sinister Six none of them are working for ONE MAIN guy [Which you are wrong about.] There are always two or three [depending on the one you are reading] that are vying for top spot (Norman Osborn and Doc Ock are usually these guys.[. There's always one that knows things like Spidey is Peter or other people connected to spidey which they don't give away to give them the edge. In the end none of them wanna share credit [Kraven and Osborn]. There’s always one that understands he’s the lackey but thinks this will get him a spot to the adult table[shocker, Sandman and Vulture have filled this spot out.]. And each of them always have two conflicts going and it usually is keeping one eye on the group and one eye on Spider-Man. If done correctly this will be great.

  • http://www.collider.com/ DNAsplitter

    It’s Sony’s way of following Marvel’s playbook but with Villians instead of heroes as they only have the one to work with. If done correctly it will be great and look something like the Avengers. Or it will look forced and totally out of place in the movie as it will be overload of too many supporting characters. Sinister six was one of my favorites as a kid and there is a wide variety of villians they can choose as the team always had different people at certain times. Really hope they give Venom his proper dues this time around.

  • HeSaidSheSaidReviewSite

    Has Sony learned nothing from Spiderman 3? They are repeating the same mistake of too many villains, but one movie earlier.

    • Nerdgasm

      Sites and people like you are what is wrong with dumb statements. A world can work with multiple bad guys it’s the writing and storylines that need serious overhauling that will make or break them. Spidey3 didn’t suffer cause of the villains. It was the story and lots in which the villains tried to thrive in and didn’t that caused it to suck.

      • HeSaidSheSaidReviewSite

        “Spidey3 didn’t suffer cause of the villains.”

        Yes it did, now shoo.

      • Nerdgasm

        You tell me how it was SPECIFICALLY the villains and NOT the writing. Cause there are several scenarios that I can think of that can put several bad guys into one Spidey Movie that would work.

      • Nick Gadman

        You make good points but then completely spoil it with dumb statements about people making dumb statements, do you have something against people having different opinions? The point of these discussion boards is to have a discussion, not to invade Poland.

    • that other guy

      Too many villains isn’t a problem. At all. Spiderman 3 didn’t suck because of that. Otherwise, each the Dark Knight movies would suck. ‘Too Many Villains = Bad Movie’ isn’t a rule of thumb; It’s how they’re handled.

      Spiderman 3 suffered from making all 3 villains the ‘Main’ villain, with no sense of “Who is Peter’s MAIN enemy”. You had the enemy that corrupted him, the enemy that killed his uncle, and the enemy that was a best friend. Each of these themes should handle their OWN movie, but instead they were messily clumped together.

      From what we’re seeing so far of the Sinister 6, it’s just a legion of bad guys that each play a small role in their group. Watch any cartoon superhero TV show on right now, and you’ll see that the group of villains work well when they’re small parts of a bigger group. As long as the film keeps its focus on one major theme and one major villain, it’ll be fine. And we have plenty of time to judge it on that.

      • Nerdgasm

        That’s not the issue either. I think that each bad guy can have their own reason for killing Spidey and it could be “The one who killed his uncle.” “The one that corrupted him” and the best friend it’s about balance. A good writer could have made Spidey 3 mean something THE ISSUE LIES with the fact that Themes tones and motifs need to mean something and no one REALLY cared about any of it. The greatest thing about The Sinister six is that they each had their own motives and most of them really didn’t get along. There was always a couple that wanted to be on top and would use the moment to do so. There were others that just wanted the satisfaction of Spidey’s death. There’s always one that withholds information that he has so he can one up the group when the time comes… That can all be done but it’ll take a very precise writer that understands that script must be planned out before a bit of dialogue is written.

  • Nerd gams

    Chances are Kingsley or Menken will be changed to be the director of Ravencroft and Hobgoblin who is Colm as he will most likely be in cahoots with Norman to store all his failed experiments. As for BJ I’m guessing he’s Brock cause the DB is suppose to feature in this but no mention of J Jonah Jameson so you have Brock to act as a photographer whom Pete runs into and to throw fans off when the movie hints at Venom since (to keep thrill alive) they will follow Ultimate instead and make Harry Venom instead.

  • brNdon

    I always thought it was lame that if there is a super powered villain, that he has to be part of the story’s overall conflict and given a backstory. Why can’t the movie just have a villain from the comics who briefly appears and is taken out? Maybe open the movie with Spider-Man in the middle of fighting Chameleon or Hammer Head, win the fight, and then introduce a main villain for the movie later.

    • Spidermanfan

      They did this EXACTLY in the beginning of Dark Knight with scarecrow.

  • Dmula

    If Venom isnt in the whole movie by himself then they failed with Venom on screen once again

  • NICK НΛRT

    they’ve hinted at using the ultimate version of the venom storyline. it would be cool if the macguffin of this film was the venom symbiote, but no one knew its effects. then they could either have it in the next film or do a spin off venom film

  • The Flobbit

    Already they have crammed in too many villains.

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