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THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Set Visit Preview and 4 Awesome New Posters!Possible Major Spoiler for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES
by Adam Chitwood Posted:June 15th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
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By now, it’s common knowledge that Christopher Nolan goes to great lengths to keep the plots of his films under closely guarded lock and key. But sometimes, no matter how many safeguards are used or how careful everyone is—especially on a film as massive as The Dark Knight Rises—something slips through. It appears that today a possibly major spoiler for the film has been revealed. If you’re spoilerphobic or want to stay as fresh as possible going into the flick, I urge you not to read ahead. That said, if you’re so inclined, hit the jump for more details.
This is your last chance. A possible MAJOR SPOILER for The Dark Knight Rises lies below…
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Okay, this is the spoiler-zone. While essentially no plot details have been revealed regarding The Dark Knight Rises, what has been mentioned multiple times by all parties involved is that the film wraps Nolan’s trilogy up nicely, and brings the story back around to Nolan’s first Bat flick Batman Begins. This idea was supported by the fact that Josh Pence had been cast as a young Ra’s al Ghul, the villain played by Liam Neeson in the first film. One presumed that Pence would be playing al Ghul in flashbacks. Well today, Drew McWeeny from HitFix revealed that Neeson himself was on the Dark Knight Rises set on Monday shooting as scene as Ra’s al Ghul.
The question now is, was Neeson shooting a flashback or was it a scene set in the present? A resurrected character may sound a bit incredulous for Nolan’s universe, but set photos that hit the web last month revealed what appeared the be al Ghul’s Lazarus Pit, used in the comics as a way to bring the dead back to life.
If the scene is indeed a flashback, it could be that we find out that something we’ve presumed to be fact all along isn’t necessarily true (yes, I’m using Scream 3 logic here, but it applies to most trilogies in general). That being said, Nolan is an insanely creative guy, so the most obvious answer is more than likely not where he’s going. Personally, I’m hoping to not learn too much about the nature of Neeson’s role before the film hits theaters. While him returning to the franchise is fantastic news, I’d love to be completely blown away/shocked by what Nolan has in store for us.
It’ll be interesting to see how Warner Bros. and Nolan’s camp reacts to this news getting out. It’s possible that their reaction may give us a better idea of Neeson’s involvement (ie. is his part essentially a cameo or does he play a bigger role?). Also, how does this affect the marketing of the picture? Do they roll with the news being out there, or do they try to put everything back in the box and pretend it didn’t happen? McWeeny says he contacted the studio for comment, but they politely refused, saying it’s not their policy when it comes to Batman/Nolan flicks.
Nevertheless, this is very big news. With Rises most likely the final chapter in Nolan’s Batman saga, it’s definitely shaping up to be as ambitious as we all hope. The lead cast for The Dark Knight Rises includes Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Anne Hathaway, Tom Hardy, Joseph Gordon- Levitt and Marion Cotillard. The film hits theaters July 20th, 2012.
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Nolan is an insanely creative guy
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Best joke ever.
Thanks for the good laugh.
Ummm…… he is. What are your qualifications for dismissing him?
nah.. I think you thinking that way is funnier. HA.. HA.. HA..
Seriously. You’re an idiot.
jeff t:
have you ever heard of Inception? But yeah that isnt remotely creative. Nor was memento, your right.
Say what you will about the quality of his movies if you must, but it is even more difficult to argue that he is not a creative person.
whoops…sorry zeus, my comment was a response to ducky….aplogies….
Blah blah blah … I’m only counting down the days for this superhero movie fad to be over. Plus, Nolan is not a great director at all … only reliable. Props to JEFF T
Which is better than majority of the directors out there. He’s going to be the most “reliable” director for the foreseeable future. Which brings bankability, name recognition, and so on and so on.
Im sure he did, but then many of us also saw the Matrix, dark city, and the Japanese anime Paprika (which Inception borrows from quite heavily visually and conceptually) so calling Nolan “insanely creative”, as good a director as he is, is certainly a bit of hyperbole. ]
He is no more creative than most good directors who are all equally inspired by numerous other things that came before, and “borrowed” from them….
This is just as idiotic at the previous comment. EVERYONE is INSPIRED by something to come up with an idea that borrows heavily on everything that influenced the idea in the first place. Nolan even stated he had been working on the script on and off for 10 years and was influenced by movies of that time, the matrix, dark city, etc. If you go back and read or listen to commentary on even THOSE dvd’s, those individuals state what influenced them for THOSE ideas that created those films, but I guess they aren’t creative either?
It drives me absolutely insane when people do not understand where creativity comes from or what it is. When every single creative person is influenced by something. There isn’t a director or writer out there who hasn’t seen something or read something that sparked an idea. Everything new borrows from something old in some fashion. Maybe its the same general story in a different setting, or a similar setting but with a different story.
The absolute worse individuals to comment on someone elses creativity are those who strictly consume and do not have the ability to create anything other than idiotic opinions.
I’m in no way a Nolan lover, but to pretend he isn’t a creative person, especially in the age of Hollywood we are in, is just completely ludicrous.
I agree with “UGH”. Kubrick is considered by many to be the most creative and masterful film maker we have ever had. However many of his films like A Clockwork Orange, 2001, The Killing, so forth. However there is no doubt Kubrick was insanely creative even though he didn’t wholly invent the narratives of his films. It was unique filmmaking techniques. Concepts like love, dreams, war, espionage have been millions of times. Shakespeare practically covered every aspect possible. Yet Nolan is by definition a creative fillmmaker. He is able to use his influence and knowledge which stem from other films, history, and narrative and make unique films. I would say he is nowhere near the calibre of Kubrick (insanely creative) but he is a creative visual story teller.
Agreed. Inception was a bland half-baked idea that pseudo intellectuals the world over revel in. He holds the depth of a peoples magazine and the passing interest of Charlie Sheen.
What a load. Inception definitely conforms to the requirements of the summer tentpole (especially in the final third), it naturally being a huge investment and risk for Warner Bros, but if you don’t give Nolan at least some credit for toying with conventional narratives and giving audiences intelligent food for thought, I guess we find ourselves at an impasse.
Nolan may not be the second coming of Kubrick, but he’s undeniably ahead of the curve.
Well, not much of a surprise to me, we never actually saw Al Ghul die in Begins. We saw Batman leave a train, then “moments” later the train crashes. Moments, with enough time for a trained Ninja to exit it.
That said, if the Lazarus pit idea were to be used, I think it would be more a place of healing than rebirth, hmm, wouldnt surprise me if they use it to fix Batmans back if indeed Bane does the dirty deed.
“Nevertheless, this is very big news”
Is it? I was expecting some huge giveaway like, we’d found out that Batman would die! All we found out was that an old character will reappear. Peter Jackson makes announcements like this every other week and they’re not considered spoilers!
i love the way the blog commenters on this site think they have some huge incite into movie making when we are really just blurting out our random opinions.
You’d better hope that he doesn’t have to share any scenes with Bane; since no matter how Bronson buff Tom Hardy gets, Neeson would tower over him.
Say whatever you want. In the end we’ll all be dazzled to know it was all Nolan’s plot to build expectation for this movie.
Batman Begins is a solid enjoyable film, The Dark Knight again is solid, but the lesser of the two. Nolan is a very good director, but he doesn’t seem deserving in my opinion of the hero worship he gets here, and on other sites.
I’m in no way looking forward to the Dark Knight Rises, i’ll watch it, but I have zero level of expectation, and if Bale is allowed to continue with his throat cancer growl then i’ll be as disconnected with the drama as I was in the last one. At times I genuinely laughed out loud watching it, and couldn’t sit through a second viewing.
I loved both films but prefer the atmosphere of Begins. And Ra’s is dead, I think Bruce would of noticed if no body was taken from the train wreck. Now where’s that teaser trailer….
Nolan is a great artist. End of the story.
But what proves that Ra’s al-Ghul was really dead in Begins ? Maybe he was badly injured but not dead.
He says Ra’s al-Ghul is immortal in Batman Begins … Before it’s revealed who the real Ra’s is.
Did anyone consider that Liam Neeson is ALSO playing Ra’s in the flashback? Think about why they have a younger actor playing Ra’s in a flashback, which doesn’t make sense considering Ra’s continuously resurrects himself with the Lazarus Pits (unless you’re showing a legitimately young Ra’s before he found any Lazarus Pits- the original Ra’s, so to speak). I’m assuming they went with a younger actor to distinguish a “newly resurrected” Ra’s, if you will. Neeson would then simply play the more aged Ra’s that dies and is then resurrected as Josh Pence. There is absolutely no new info in this, I was actually going to be surprised if Neeson didn’t make any sort of appearance
Also, it absolutely does not matter one way or the other if Ra’s died in Batman Begins, since the whole point of his characters is that he is resurrected in the Lazarus Pits and has actually died many times. So, either he did die and was resurrected, or he didn’t and he’s still alive anyway.
adam chitwood the author of this article doesn’t have the tinniest idea of what a spoiler is…looks like a poor and lame attempt to bring atention to his bland article…
wow. it’s really incredible how all you sad little people come out of the woodwork and hate on chris nolan. i guess because the guy is far and away the most acclaimed and successful “new” director of the past decade. he’s obviously talented. you have to at least admit that, whether you like his flicks or not. there must be a lot of failed film makers on here or something, it can’t be anything but jealousy for the man.