Michael Bay Says TRANSFORMERS 4 Is Not a Reboot, May Spend More Time in Space; Reveals Budget Will Be Lower

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With production wrapped on Michael Bay’s $20 million passion project, the dark comedy Pain and Gain, the director is now turning more of his attention to his fourth—and “final”—film in the Transformers franchise.  We know that Transformers 4 won’t feature any of the human cast from the previous three films, there will be redesigns for some of the robots, it’s set for release in the summer of 2014, and it’s been described as a reboot of sorts.  Now that he’s moved on to the post-production phase of Pain and Gain, Bay recently talked a bit about where Transformers 4 will go storywise and asserted that the film is not a reboot.  Hit the jump to see what he had to say.

michael-bay-transformers-4-imageBay addressed just exactly how Transformers 4 will be connected to the other three films in an interview with Hero Complex, saying that “reboot” isn’t an entirely accurate description:

“It’s not a reboot, that’s maybe the wrong word. I don’t want to say reboot because then people will think we’re doing a Spider-Man and starting from the beginning. We’re not. We’re taking the story that you’ve seen — the story we’ve told in three movies already — and we’re taking it in a new direction. But we’re leaving those three as the history. It all still counts. I met with the writer before I went off to do Pain and Gain and we talked about a bunch of ideas. We let that simmer for a bit. He’s been thinking about stuff and now we’re getting back together next week to see what we’ve got and to see if it gels.”

transformers-4-imageWe previously reported that Ehren Kruger, who co-wrote Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and took sole credit on Transformers: Dark of the Moon, would be writing Transformers 4 so one assumes that he’s the writer Bay is talking about.  When asked if the film’s story could involve a departure from Earth, Bay seemed to be keen on spending more time in space:

“I think so, yeah, a little. That feels like the way to go, doesn’t it? I want to go a little off but I don’t want to go too sci-fi. I still want to keep it grounded. That’s what works in these movies, that’s what makes it accessible.”

Though the story of Transformers 4 might journey into space, Bay says the budget for the film will actually be less than the first three.  “Our mandate is to cut about $30 million,” Bay says.  That number seems small when talking about a movie that’s essentially wall-to-wall explosions (the last Transformers was budgeted at a reported $195 million), but comparatively that cut is more than the entire budget for Bay’s recently completed film.

Hopefully we’ll hear some casting or firm plot information soon as Bay puts the finishing touches on Pain and Gain and starts prepping the Transformers 4 shoot. Though Bay claims this is his last go-around with his favorite robots, he said the same thing during production of Dark of the MoonHis supposed goal with 4 is to “set up the series for the next guy,” but who knows if he’ll actually walk away after this next film.  What we do know for sure is that Transformers 4 is slated to hit theaters on June 27th, 2014, and if the box office of the other films is any indication then Transformers 5 is all but guaranteed.

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  • darrin

    just bring back the wingsuits and i’m sold

    • michael bayot

      LOL space? helo galvatron, sweeps, roddy, unicron LOL

  • AlexHeyNa

    Honestly, I don’t think anyone gives a sh*t about what Michael Bay says anymore…

    • SATAN

      agreed.. let it go

      • Yahzee

        You keep saying that, and yet, every film he makes, makes a lot more money than the last, and here you are, giving a sh*t about what Michael Bay is actually doing… weird isn’t it?

    • Aethon

      Yeah, all that money and Bay still managed to ruin the Transformers franchise. Rather then allowing him to dig the hole deeper they should get real director- one that believes movies need to have an actual plot- and let him reboot the franchise.

  • mattinacan

    all he describes is the different flavored shit he’s going to serve. as usual the shit eating public will eat it up. what a hack joker

  • mattedscreen

    Remember when The Rock and Armageddon were cool and part of the Criterion Collection? Feels so long ago doesn’t it? sigh… so much has changed in such a short amount of time.

  • MCP

    This Comment section is brought to by, Kleenex brand tissues. For all the crying 12 year old’s…

    • J

      Agreed

  • Retaliator

    It better be on the moon and NOT Cybertron or Unicron! Wheatever Michael Bay is planning, it better have something to do with the arc! and the budget better not have anything to do with the robot characters and vehicles because we need to see AERIALBOTS, PREDATORS and COMBATICONS!

  • Retaliator

    Well I don’t care just as long as he is able to shoot filming at an airbase so that we can see the AERIALBOTS! I’m tired of seeing bullshit car bots! it sucks! HE better give us taller autobots and newer decepticons!

  • Cubs_Fan

    Bring on the Dinobots!!

  • Mrtigerthunder

    “set up the series for the next guy,”

    That just annoys me so badly. Bay you suck and you are a greedy sob. Let the next guy do whatever he wants to do, not following in your horrible Part-by-part robots and anything-that-hits-the-ground-will-explode explosions.

  • Strong Enough

    Michael Bay is a good Director

    rather see his films than Paul W.S Anderson. that f***ckin hack

    • ko-bra-ko-mander

      Totally agree. Bay is really the perfect director for the transformers movies. Giant Robots from outer space isn’t exactly “grounded” material. Let Bay stick to making movies and keep him away from historic movies like Pearl Harbor. P.S. Paul W.S Anderson movies suck!

      • mattinacan

        hahahahahaha, ohh thanks guys i needed that

  • john

    but how many explosions?

  • jay

    Why in god’s name would they cut the budget when the last film grossed OVER A BILLION WORLDWIDE!?

  • Lance

    My theory is the people who hate Prometheus for its “plot holes” love Michael Bay.

    You arrogant SOB, Bay! You couldn’t even remember the writer’s name even after you’ve already worked with him on two other movies!

    • GET OVER IT!

      best post on here, good to some sense!

    • MCP

      I loved Prometheus, great sci-fi. Yet, I also really like all the Transformers movies, great action/movie theater movies. So, theory crushed…

      • Lance

        Theory not crushed! Because there’s nothing in the theory that says you can’t like both.

  • ozzie

    i like all 3 movies so far but i am not a movie snob … i can go into a film knowing it’s not oscar material and still enjoy it.

    • GET OVER IT!

      No, you are not a movie “snob”, they usually like decent films ;)
      Movie “Snobs” (i guess i must fall in to this category) have been fortunate enough that they didn’t leave their brain behind at birth so they recognise a well made film, be it action or drama or thriller ect.
      I seem to remember enjoying a lot of “non oscar” winning films since i can remember, to name some recent ones; dark knight, iron man, rise of the apes, real steel, star trek, the list goes on but the point is they were IMO fun, decent, well made films, with good heart at the core of their story and direction and they were not oscar winners and yet they were not total nasty trashy heaps of shit that Bay’s trilogy was! So to use that as an excuse that its okay to make films of the quality of Transformers because its ok to be dumb and shit is annoying and moronic!

      Enjoy Transformers 4!

      • jack

        Actually, Heather Ledger won an Oscar for The Joker. And I’m almost certain “Ironman” won an Oscar for the effects.

  • Joe

    Truly a classless ‘film’ maker whom the box office has rewarded to continue making his classless films. Not being high browed when I say this.

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  • Jasonzilla

    I’m at a loss as to why anyone would give Bay more money and another chance to screw this series up even more. Who’s next in line to direct, Uwe Boll?

  • tarek

    We must make a movie: Michael Bay Versus the World. He deserves it.

  • Fist-O-Pain

    I know this guy ruined the Transformers you grew up with, but seriously, why the hell do you all hate him? Because he’s rich? Because he makes movies that make a ton? Has he ever said that he wanted to make high brow action films? No. He makes entertaining action films. He doesn’t want to be Christopher Nolan. And that is fine with me. Myself and all the other people who see his films know what we are getting, robots killing each other, Shia saying no!, and hot babes. What in God’s green earth is wrong with that?

    • tarek

      And what is wrong in hating these mindless movies ?

      • Fist-O-Pain

        If you know it’s mindless, why see it/give a crap?

      • tarek

        I don’t. It’s just bothering me to see him bringing down the cinema industry with his soulless vision.

    • Professor_Zoom

      It’s not that people don’t like a mindless movie. But not mindless and totally stupid. No one is expecting The Dark Knight, but for Christ’s sake, Transformers Prime and the War for Cybertron game has more depth and better story telling than all three Transformers movies combined. Which is sad since one is a video game, and the other is an animated show for kids. Which is ironic because being a toy property for kids has been the excuse by fans for the crappy storytelling in the films.

  • sense 11

    Yep, more time in space means more CGI that means less actors and real things for him to direct. Probably a good thing

  • Gala

    The Transformers movies have writers??? i thought it was a “make it up as you go” thing … like when my friends and I made action movies with my parents camera…

  • sccitylhh

    “I still want to keep it grounded.”

    Hahahahahahaha

  • Hunter

    i think its a good thing they cut the budgets so maybe they will rely more on a better story

  • Starscream

    Its going to be about Cybertron. Though with a smaller budget, I’m not sure.

  • Tim

    Clint Eastwood?

  • Patuniverse.com

    Y’all hate Michael Bay so much, yet y’all still go see his movies because if not, how would you know how terrible of a person he is lol?

    • mattinacan

      hey y’allllll, i like me some ‘xsplosions

  • Patuniverse.com

    Y’all hate Michael Bay so much, yet some of y’all still go see his movies. That makes a lot of sense…

  • mattinacan

    in that first picture he is saying, 5 more explosions, now!

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  • jr

    it ok to me that they cut a budget for a new installment of transformer 4 but please put back again megan fox in the new installment of transformer film because i like megan fox acting there when she is in transformers film so i hope that she will be put in movie for the installment of transformer movie

  • Ben

    Watch the 1986 MOVIE It’s better than this crap!

    • James

      Yes! All Bay should do is complete copy the animated movie, except make it live animation…would love to Unicron absolutely crushing other planets. But i think he should put Mila Kunis in there somewhere, maybe replacing Daniel as the “lead human”…

  • Treasure

    Wow you all are something else. I would absolutly love to see you do something much, much better. Mr. Bay did an awesome job i say no one can do it better.
    TRANSFORMERS is the SH*T and will always be!!

  • Joe

    i like these movies so, and i will have to agree with the AERIALBOTS,
    omega suprem, metroplex, stunt acons, brutus, DinoBots, the list can go on and on,
    for example of the DinoBots, their strong tough and rugges.
    they can take a trip to lake champlan in Champlan ny, where their is plenty of free open space and land to film the DinoBots or fine Dino bones. just saying as and idea. give a break to the big citys for a few and help the small town folks out,
    for the cast change the orginall cartoon sam was always with the autobot, then their was skip, that also help the dino. Jason could be skip, put his butt in a wheeles chair since it is not a transported mopvie,man i can carry this for a long way. oh and what about the (Protectobots, Predacons, oh and if they killed megatron and Gavatron is suppose to come into play, if i am not mistaken was it Unicorn that turn megatron into gavatron, and turn strascream, durgem and thundercracker into the Cyclone? and if so dose that mean that their bringins Unicron into play? and Unicorn destroyed cybertons moons???????

  • Luke

    I promise that i will soon make a better Transformers film than this. I’ve seen the entire G1 series and going to start to see beast wars too. So you’ll all see in the next 20 or so years, when i get out of high school and into a film college and become a director. I’m just going to laugh at Bay and show that its not impossible to make a better movie. I’m going to make Optimus Prime his original truck and form and keep some people G1 accurate too. Of course some of it would be weird like Megatron and Soundwave. But i’ll come up with something.

    • sphinx lotus

      yeah that’s true i don’t know why he’s thinking about new movie transfromers 4 2014

  • J

    Yall are pathetic. Why even bother commenting if it sucks so much. Do yall not have anything better to do. Get a life

  • Bumblebee

    They made a billion in the last film ,without witwicky ,they aint gonna b a billion this time

  • Centurion

    Ultramagnus,Vector Prime, Grimlock, Hotrod , Bring on the story of Orion Pax, Bay directs fine but his writers suck they are not Transformers Geeks.

  • Johnny mulcahy

    I mean WHAT THE FCK is wrong with you people can you not give him a break I mean shut all you FCKING bully and if all you idiots can even notice how hard he actually works to do these movies I’m just for this one they are estimating about two FCKING years I mean come the FCK on Jesus’s Christ your all being little cry babies grow THE FCK up and try to enjoy the FCKING movie I mean your making me so FCKING pisse- off. Idiots!

  • dhunaa and kube

    All the prevoius parts of these series are excellent works and we extremply enjoyed watching them over again and again…they are so real. Its like they are not visual images but in reality.
    Especially my little brother is crazy about this transformers. these are his most favorite movies he have ever imagined.

    so we really cant wait much to see the new part EVIL WILL BURN in the year 2014. my borhter want to it right now….hehehe

  • Brian McDonald

    Hasbro had their hands in all three films and would have read the scripts before shooting and casting to make for certain they got what they wanted out of the franchise. I’m of the original tv series and yes it’s not the original. If you want the original watch the 80′s cartoon series. Hasbro didn’t want to do a reboot of this either so I know I’ve grown up since then have any of you? Bay might have stretched things from the originals and put them slowly into the first three movies why not use more than he did I guess we’ll never know?!?! But biggest point of all if not for Bay our transformers that I’ve hoped for a live action movie since before 2000 might not have or never have even been made at all because nobody else until after the premier had wanted the job!!! But if #4 is taking place in space with no human characters like Bay says total b.s. even the 86 movie still had humans!!!!! Trilogies this is supposed to be where an even bigger evil comes to destroy everything. 4 should be rise of galvatron with unicorn making his way from across universe. Ending of 4th should be unicorn at cybertron and you see autobots coming through a space bridge, credits, the end is the setup for 5th space battle!!! He’ll yeah. Should’ve been this way 4,5,6 as unicron trilogy. Tell as many as you can we should have last movies made the way the fans want sorry bay that’s about how many billion to 1 we win.

  • Brian McDonald

    Hasbro had their hands in all three films and would have read the scripts before shooting and casting to make for certain they got what they wanted out of the franchise. I\’m of the original tv series and yes it\’s not the original. If you want the original watch the 80\’s cartoon series. Hasbro didn\’t want to do a reboot of this either so I know I\’ve grown up since then have any of you? Bay might have stretched things from the originals and put them slowly into the first three movies why not use more than he did I guess we\’ll never know?!?! But biggest point of all if not for Bay our transformers that I\’ve hoped for a live action movie since before 2000 might not have or never have even been made at all because nobody else until after the premier had wanted the job!!! But if #4 is taking place in space with no human characters like Bay says total b.s. even the 86 movie still had humans!!!!! Trilogies this is supposed to be where an even bigger evil comes to destroy everything. 4 should be rise of galvatron with unicorn making his way from across universe. Ending of 4th should be unicorn at cybertron and you see autobots coming through a space bridge, credits, the end is the setup for 5th space battle!!! He\’ll yeah. Should\’ve been this way 4,5,6 as unicron trilogy. Tell as many as you can we should have last movies made the way the fans want sorry bay that\’s about how many billion to 1 we win.

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