Exclusive: TRON 3 Update from Director Joseph Kosinski; Talks Daft Punk’s Return, TRON 3′s Time Period, EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Comparisons, and More

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Tron fans had reason to rejoice a little over a week ago when we reported that Disney is now moving forward with a sequel to 2010’s TRON: Legacy.  The follow-up has been in development since that film’s release, but new Disney Studios head Alan Horn sees Tron 3 as a priority, and so Jesse Wigutow has been brought on to pen the latest draft of the script in order to get things moving.  Legacy star Garrett Hedlund recently confirmed his inevitable involvement in the pic, but details regarding the sequel have been few and far between.

Steve recently participated in an exclusive interview with Legacy director Joseph Kosinski in anticipation for his upcoming sci-fi film Oblivion, and he kindly provided a lengthy update on Tron 3, which he intends to direct.  Kosinski talked about the status of the script, the fact that this had to be their Empire Strikes Back in order for him to return, the possibility of Daft Punk once again providing the score, how much time has passed when Tron 3 picks up, and much more.  Hit the jump to see what he had to say.

joseph-kosinski-tron-3Speaking about the sequel, Kosinski says he thinks they’ve found an idea that makes the follow-up worth doing:

“Well the only reason to go back, for me and I think for anyone involved would be if we could do something truly spectacular.  We’ve been talking about it for a couple years and there’s always been this idea, a big idea, in the back of my head that we’ve been talking about.  The idea itself, the notion of what the next Tron could be, is exciting enough that it would be worth going back to do it.  Obviously we hinted some things at the end of Legacy, it’s kind of there for people to see what that potential is. So we just want to make sure that we have a script that delivers on that promise on an epic scale.”

TRON: Legacy was Kosinski’s first feature film as a director and was made under a bit of a time crunch, so Kosinski notes that he wants to have the script in tip-top shape before they start production:

“I’ve said it would have to be our Empire Strikes Back for me to come back and for me to pull the whole team back together.  I think we do have that idea.  We do have the idea that feels big and really blows the doors off this franchise.  It’s hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so it’s time to deliver on that.  But the script’s got to be at a level that makes it worth going back for, because it’s a lot of work to make a movie like this and it’s a multi-year project.  So we’ve got our writer Jesse Wigutow on it right now writing, and fingers crossed if it all comes together, as we hope it will, there could be another Tron in the next few years, and it’s going to be awesome.”

joseph-kosinski-tron-3Regarding the story, Kosinski was unsurprisingly mum on details but he did reveal the time frame between Legacy and Tron 3:

“I think time has passed.  It feels like we’re kind of real-time in step.  So however much time has passed since Legacy came out would also have transpired in the real world.  So it will still be contemporary.  So let’s say if the Tron sequel comes out in 2015, then four or five years have passed since the last movie.”

The filmmaker also teased that he would be bringing some new designs to the film instead of re-using material from Legacy:

“I don’t want to say too much about it but the goal would not be to simply re-use.  We’re not going to re-use the assets from Legacy, that’s no fun.  If we’re going to do to it we’re going to reinvent all over again and it’s going to be a whole new generation for reasons that are very story-driven.  That’s all I can say.”

tron-3-garrett-hedlund-olivia-wildeAs for whether the Legacy sequel could be Kosinski’s next film, the director seems cautiously optimistic:

“There is certainly a chance, like I said; we’re writing the script now.  Sometimes with these things all the pieces fall into place.  I mean, we’ve been talking about this for years and we don’t have the script now, but sometimes things fall into place very quickly, and if everything lines up it could happen.  That’s all I can say, it’s too early.”

One of the highlights of Legacy, in addition to Kosinski’s stirring visuals, was a fantastic score from Daft Punk.  Steve asked if they would be returning for the follow-up, and Kosinski seems keen on “getting the band back together” so to speak:

“When it comes to building the team up for soundtrack they would absolutely be my first call.  As to whether or not they would do it, it depends on what they’re doing at the time.  They are very methodical in how they pick their next project, and they would only do it if they felt that they could dedicate themselves a hundred percent to that.  I know they have another album coming out, I’m sure that’s going to be their next big project, which I assume is going to be followed by a massive tour.  So, you know, hopefully if they’ve got the time and the creative willingness to dive back in.”

tron-3-daft-punkThe filmmaker notes that Daft Punk created plenty of tracks that Kosinski didn’t use in Legacy, so they’ve already got a leg-up on the music for the sequel:

“Remember, there are a lot of tracks that they created that I still have that I wasn’t able to fit into TRON: Legacy.  So we’ve already got a head start on some great tracks for the future, which I’m really excited about.  Like I said, they would be my first call.”

Hopefully we’ll hear more about the sequel very soon, as fan response to the promise of Tron 3 has been incredibly positive.

Read the full transcript of the portion of Steve’s interview with Kosinski below, and look out for the entire interview on Collider soon.

Please tell people the status of another Tron sequel.

Kosinski: Well the only reason to go back, for me and I think for anyone involved would be if we could do something truly spectacular.  We’ve been talking about it for a couple years and there’s always been this idea, a big idea, in the back of my head that we’ve been talking about.  The idea itself, the notion of what the next Tron could be, is exciting enough that it would be worth going back to do it.  Obviously we hinted some things at the end of Legacy, it’s kind of there for people to see what that potential is.  So we just want to make sure that we have a script that delivers on that promise on an epic scale.  I’ve said it would have to be our Empire Strikes Back for me to come back and for me to pull the whole team back together.  I think we do have that idea.  We do have the idea that feels big and really blows the doors off this franchise.  It’s hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so it’s time to deliver on that.  But the script’s got to be at a level that makes it worth going back for, because it’s a lot of work to make a movie like this and it’s a multi-year project.  So we’ve got our writer Jesse Wigutow on it right now writing, and fingers crossed if it all comes together, as we hope it will, there could be another Tron in the next few years, and it’s going to be awesome.

joseph-kosinski-tron-3My understanding is the studio is very enthusiastic about continuing Tron.  Obviously they have new leadership under Alan Horn, have you actually talked to Alan and said, “How do you feel about Tron?”

Kosinski: I haven’t talked to him directly.  I mean, Sean Bailey was my producer on Tron, now he’s the president over there at Disney.  So Disney has their full support behind it, which is great, but again it’s got to be the right story.  It’s got to be a script that’s up to snuff and worth going back for.  The idea’s there, the ambition’s there, the excitement’s there; but we need to have all the pieces in place before they would ever pull the trigger on that.  So we’ll see.  We’ll see what happens.

Obviously you’ll be done with Oblivion in April, then you’ll go on tour with it, then it will be a question of what project you want to do next.  Do you think that there is a real chance that Tron could be the next project, or do you think there might be something that goes in first?

Kosinski: There is certainly a chance, like I said; we’re writing the script now.  Sometimes with these things all the pieces fall into place.  I mean, we’ve been talking about this for years and we don’t have the script now, but sometimes things fall into place very quickly, and if everything lines up it could happen.  That’s all I can say, it’s too early.

As I’ve mentioned many times, I loved the soundtrack, do you think that you would be able to get Daft Punk back again to do it?

Kosinski: When it comes to building the team up for soundtrack they would absolutely be my first call.  As to whether or not they would do it, it depends on what they’re doing at the time.  They are very methodical in how they pick their next project, and they would only do it if they felt that they could dedicate themselves a hundred percent to that.  I know they have another album coming out, I’m sure that’s going to be their next big project, which I assume is going to be followed by a massive tour.  So, you know, hopefully if they’ve got the time and the creative willingness to dive back in.  Remember, there are a lot of tracks that they created that I still have that I wasn’t able to fit into Tron: Legacy.  So we’ve already got a head start on some great tracks for the future, which I’m really excited about.  Like I said, they would be my first call.

I actually don’t know how the soundtrack sold.  Did it sell well?

Kosinski: It did.  In fact, where is it? I have a gold record here.

tron_legacy_mondo_poster_eric_tan_01Which is very unusual for soundtracks.

Kosinski: Yes

Where’s my gold record? Is it in there (he asks his assistant in another room. She say’s it’s in storage)?

Kosinski: My gold record was delivered to me on the Oblivion set; it was in my trailer one day.  Disney sent it over, Sean Bailey sent it with a very nice note that it sold whatever gold is, that must be a million copies I guess? And it was the highest selling soundtrack since the last Star Wars, The Revenge of the Sith.  So that’s the highest soundtrack in seven years, or whatever that is.  Like I said, that was a really wonderful thing; it was everything we wanted it to be.

From a design perspective, because I know you’re very passionate about design, have you already been thinking of cool ships and cool new additions to the Tron universe that you’ve been doodling when you have some time? Or is it still just in the brain and not on paper yet?

Kosinski: It’s definitely there.  I don’t want to say too much about it but the goal would not be to simply re-use.  We’re not going to re-use the assets from Legacy, that’s no fun.  If we’re going to do to it we’re going to reinvent all over again and it’s going to be a whole new generation for reasons that are very story-driven.  That’s all I can say.

Do you see a sequel starting moments from when the last one ended or do you foresee some time passing before the next chapter might start?

Kosinski: I think time has passed.  It feels like we’re kind of real-time in step.  So however much time has passed since Legacy came out would also have transpired in the real world.  So it will still be contemporary.  So let’s say if the Tron sequel comes out in 2015, then four or five years have passed since the last movie.  

Look for the full interview with Kosinski very soon.




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  • Strong Enough

    Gold is 500,000 copies not a million lmaoo

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  • Jay

    I just wish they started working on the next TRON immediately after finishing the first one. The TRON universe has so much potential it pains me to wait.

    • Kirk

      Patience, only took them 28 yrs to get the sequel out. 4 or 5 yrs won’ t be as long.

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  • Doto

    Without Daft Punk this will be a big failure

    • Jeff Daniels

      What an idiotic statement. Daft Punk were just there for exposure – good music, but not necessary for the story.

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  • Flyguy29

    He was too architecture driven and did not create the “world” of Tron in the same vein or atmospheric look and feel of the original. He did not “transport” the audience there as effectively as part one.
    In addition, the movie was clumsy and the script was under developed. I hope Oblivion is better.

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  • MainFragger

    I agree that visually the movie was stunning..but yeah, the story was a bit lacking, and the lead didn’t really have the emotional gravitas to pull his character off. I was a little disappointed with Zen Flynn too. I normally like Michael Sheen as an actor, but his role in this movie was completely un-necessary, and actually pretty annoying. I equate his role to going to see the Wizard of Oz and finding Bill or Ted instead…

  • truth serum

    Personally I loved Tron Legacy but I can see where its problems were. The movie kind of lost a bit of steam after they escaped from the Zeus’ bar. Additionally, it needed at least one other main character with some humor and humanity to him. I also thought the light jet sequence was better in concept than execution. It just seemed to drag on. They also needed a better fight choreographer. The actual hand to hand combat wasn’t up to the same standards as the cool looking characters.

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  • zack

    I thought Tron Legacy was an amazing movie. I feel they definately need to make the sequel with the same cast. It sucks when you see a big movie sequel come out and a different actor/actress is now playing a big role instead of the original. I think Jeff Bridges is a phenomenol actor as well as Garrett Hedlund. And everyone wants to see Olivia Wilde back because she is absolutely gorgeous. Cant Wait!

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  • Jarret

    Please make the third Tron movie! By far my favourite movie, due in part to amazing graphics, daft punk, and some great actors (Olivia Wilde ;) )

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  • Rachel

    Oh my gosh, there HAS to be another! I can’t wait!

  • ASOT

    Tron Legacy is an amazing movie! Incredible visuals, sound, and cast! I had no issues with the story at all! It\’s great to watch a movie that truly takes you on a unique adventure! Can\’t wait for Tron 3 and hopefully more after! I somehow hope Zeus is still alive! Lol

  • Taurus18

    Loved both Tron movies and watching the animated series which is also amazing! I can’t wait for the next Tron movie!! <3

  • sg

    I am a Tron fan from the 82 original..First combined animation and real actors. Its time ahead and with great music (for that time ofcourse) . Tron legacy is a great movie , and the music perfectly continues where the 82 movie ended.. i love tron..but without the daft punk music it wouldnt be half the movie it is now

  • Pianomangabe

    SO excited if there really is a return of Tron. However I would like to see daft punk doing the music score again. I don’t understand people who say that it doesn’t matter who does the score. It really does matter because the music score plays such an important role in films. It establishes the theme and mood and if it doesn’t fit, the film doesn’t work. In my opinion daft punk couldn’t have done a better job in tron legacy. Also really looking forward to seeing Olivia wilde again!

  • 1011100011101

    Way back in the 80s, I was a (7yr old?) child obsessed with video games and computers… and I was blown away by Tron. Tron was so far ahead of its time, and explained things about computers and networking, that the average Joe never even thought about, let alone heard or had any knowledge of.

    The story was great. Seeing a real Arcade with those great classics were great. Jeff Bridges was fun, funny, quirky, and he really made that movie shine. The other actors were equally expressive in their roles.. and so you really great emotional connections with almost every character that graced the screen.

    The world of Tron wasnt just monotone blues. There were areas with amazing rainbow colors and effects. The luminescent glow, and glowing costumes, were also interesting. (even despite a slightly cheesy floppy foam appearance)

    The musical score was great. Deep, ever changing. Synth-Digital combined with orchestral organic. It conveyed the emotions of the scenes so very well.

    —-

    Tron Legacy:

    It was great to hear a new Tron was coming… but as such with most modern remakes or continuances… they are such a let-down that it makes you not even want to bother. And frankly, I wish I had skipped this one, waiting for an old TV re-run at best. Ive since decided, that after 9 out of 10 face palms… Ive completely given up on modern revivals.

    Tron Legacy started out with that Aura of the past.. that almost got you excited… but then your heart just sunk… and kept sinking, as came the stinking… and then even more stinking.

    There was no real emotional expression on the Flynns son. The guy has no right to be a lead in a movie. He was boring. Stiff. Neither funny, nor that Heroic or human. Nearly emotionless.
    You basically didnt even care if he got killed. Heck, you almost felt like you wanted to get out a Disc yourself, and toss it at him. He has no charisma. No quirks. No expression. No personality. Hes more like Me.. and I wouldnt put myself on screen, as I know I wouldnt be Interesting to watch!

    It was good to see Jeff again.. but his role was so limited and depressing.

    The world was so dark, bland, colorless, and fairly ‘ordinary’, that I wanted to pull my eyes out.
    Where was the artistry and brilliant colorful light shows? The light bikes free roaming didnt do much for me. The scenes were again, more centered on the visual look, than any emotional connection.. nor any really intensity seeming to be happening in the action. (way too laid-back)

    The Disc Battle, too short. Too simple. Not very interesting. Not very creative. Could have done SO much more with this. Also, again… no emotional connections.

    Evil Flynn – was an abomination. Maybe in concept, it was an interesting idea… But in practice, it looked painfully horrific. Very fake looking, moving, and made it disturbing to look at.

    The only other actors worth mentioning, are the Girl, whom was at least somewhat decent in her role.. and was very nice on the eyes. Alan. And Dillengers son. The bar dude was expressive.. but, he was also too ‘flaming’ for my tastes.

    The sound track was also a huge let down. The technoish stuff has no soul. Theres is almost NO emotion whatsoever that comes from it. If you listen to it without the movie.. could you even pick out an emotion? Nope. Theres no depth. Theres almost no actual composed notes. Its Just mostly arranged rhythms. Its hard to believe people actually say they liked this crud. I mean, yeah, I liked some of Daft Punks stuff… like the ‘Harder better faster stronger’..
    but even that, doesnt fit in a movie as an emotional backdrop. Imagine Harry Potter or Star Wars, with Daft Punk. Ugg. What a nightmare.

    Please.. do yourself a favor, and re-listen the Original sound track. Close your eyes… and in no time you will sense the emotions its conveying. Its certainly not the kind of music you would Jam out with… but Jamming & Dancing, are not storytelling. Its not the same thing at all. Tron isnt a music video!!! Listen to the early 80s synth compositions.. like Axel F. Listen to people playing a Yamaha DX-7. The sounds these things produce are so much more alive. Colorful. Deep. And the compositions are not stagnant and repetitive. They also convey some emotion… because they are actual music. Not just rhythmic patterns of boring and low quality ‘sound samples’.

    Id hoped for something out of this world. A return of Tron in a way that was only hinted at before… with expanded color, creativity, and expression. A powerful reunion with our old friends. A Heroic deep and exciting adventure… with mystery and intrigue. An emotional powerhouse of a film, with a great feeling that makes you want to watch it over and over again.

    I still watch the Original often, and enjoy it. Ive seen the new Tron once.. not caring if I ever saw it again. And upon seeing it again at a friends place, barely cared… and was wishing I was watching either the original again… or something else.

    I really with I knew what was wrong with people these days.. to have no human & emotional connection in anything that they do. I wish I knew how someone could pick such lousy lead actors. I wish someone could find a director that was capable of making more than a glorified music video…

    In the end, Legacy’s story was Ok… and might have a lead into something more interesting. However, I have little hope considering how bad this was, and how bad most of these modern films are in general these days. Id probably have a better time watching a classic like the Original Tron, Stripes, Spys Like Us, Goonies, … etc.. than to waste my time and or money on Bor-O-Tron 3.0

  • TheUser

    I feel both Tron’s did absolutely brilliant, and there were ar more positives to each than negatives. However, I feel you should attempt something new. Daft Punk did brilliant, but adding something more to boost their music would bring it even higher from Revenge of the Sith than Legacy did. I am recommending someone to JOIN the soundtrack efffort, NOT replace, mind you. He can be found on YouTube as Skavenger, he is a huge Tron fan and is rather good in the electronic area of music. Hearing him and Daft Punk making a hardstyle version of The Grid is something I would certainly would like to hear. Just my two cents. Also, a return of Flynn is highly likely in a third Tron, especially with my theories on the chip just after Sam gets out. (Notice the design looks muck like a classic disc.) Another pleasing element is the similarities between the character Zuse and real actor and singer David Bowie. I actually thought they were the same person when I was watching Labyrinth. True, he most likely won’t return, but he was one of the best done characters outside the main few.

  • nick

    Attention to detail

  • Rosalinda Ursery

    Very nice movie. I really love this this movie and the main lead Garrett Hedlund was looking very cool and handsome in the movie.
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  • Z4RQUON

    My theory is that Clu was actually an agent of the Master Control Program and, by extension, Edward Dillinger. There are four pieces of evidence that support my theory:

    1. Clu’s army of repurposed programs
    2. Clu’s mutiny
    3. Alan Bradley’s page
    4. Clu has a map of Earth

    In 1982′s “Tron”, the MCP’s standard operating procedure is to repurpose programs. In “Tron Legacy”, Kevin Flynn explains that Clu had suddenly become “corrupted”, and we also see Clu’s army being built out of repurposed programs. We see programs go, glowing blue, in one door and come, glowing orange, out the other. We never actually see an act of “repurposing” taking place on screen and we know that Clu is not, himself, repurposing these programs. We do not actually see Tron being repurposed as Rinzler either. So, what is going on through that door?

    There is another gaping question that goes unanswered in “Tron Legacy”: At the beginning of the movie, Alan Bradley receives a page in the real world, presumably from Clu, and also, Clu has a map of the planet Earth. This shows information going both to and from the grid and the real world. How is it possible for Clu to seemingly have the ability to interact with the real world when we KNOW that this is not the case — given that his end goal is to achieve influence outside of his digital cage which lacks an Internet connection. I think he had help.

    At the end of 1982′s “Tron”, Dillinger is removed from his throne at Encom, a position we know he achieved through shenanigans in the first place: he has got to be super-pissed! When Flynn tells his story, he mentions that he had been making secret journeys to The Grid for years. It is not unthinkable that Dillinger might have been spying on Flynn, and eventually discovered ‘The Grid’ and managed to have him imprisoned there to keep him out of the way. Is it merely a coincidence that in Flynn’s absence, Ed Dillinger Jr. just so happened to have made his way onto the Encom board of directors?

    At the beginning of the movie, we can see that both Alan Bradley and Sam Flynn are rebelling, in their own ways, against the Encom leadership. Is it unthinkable that Ed Dillinger might have wanted Alan out of the way, as well, so that he could complete his take-over of the company? Would he not attempt to use the same tried-and-tested method of “disappearing” that he used on Kevin Flynn? At the beginning of the movie, Alan Bradley receives a page designed to lure him to the Arcade and, I suspect, to be trapped on The Grid but, instead, the page is answered by Sam. Sam is immediately captured by Clu’s henchmen, as if they were already there waiting for him. When they first meet, Clu asks Sam, “How did you get in here?… Just you?” He was clearly expecting somebody else but was “still very very happy to see” Sam.

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