Will Venom Find His Way into THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Universe?

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Venom fanboys have had to carry around the disappointment of seeing their favorite character shoved into the awful Spider-Man 3.  However, producers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach have never given up the ghost of the slobbering Spidey foe.  As recently as this past March, we reported that Chronicle director Josh Trank was in talks to helm a new movie featuring the villain/anti-hero.  However, how do you have Venom without Spider-Man and how do you have a Venom movie if the character isn’t in The Amazing Spider-Man?

Hit the jump for how Venom might fit into the new comic-book world The Amazing Spider-Man is spinning.

venom-movie-imageThe press conference for The Amazing Spider-Man, Tolmach suggested that there may be a shared universe for between the upcoming Spidey reboot and the Venom film.  Tolmach explained [via Hollywood.com]

“I’m trying to say to you without giving anything away is hopefully all these worlds will live together in peace someday… look for the worlds to make sense with one another.”

It’s an idea that makes sense in a post-Avengers world where simply having one superhero simply will not do.  Much like the comic books, vast new worlds must be constructed and producers would obviously like to have projects with the same kind of crossover potential (or rather, the box office riches such a crossover could bring).

Speaking about Venom as an individual project, Arad said:

“It’s an Eddie Brock [Venom's alter ego] story.  “We want to be as close to the comics as possible. Especially in Eddie Brock’s story. But again, pseudo-sceince is becoming science. All these tidbits about webs, artificial webs, is a huge industry now. Spiderwebs have unique qualities that will be huge for communications, fibers, and so forth. So we have taken the approach that we want to make the huge amazing movie about Eddie.”

This is an interesting contradiction because being close to the comics means Venom has to arrive via a Spider-Man story, specifically the one with the alien symbiote.  It doesn’t sound like anything extra-terrestrial fits in with the scientific/realistic approach Arad is advocating, so I’m curious to see where Venom falls in between its faithfulness to the comics and the need to start expanding a new Marvel universe for a potential crossover.

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  • Joe

    The movie I wanna watch is Aliens vs Venon (i.e. AvV)
    These dome heads can duke it out with each other real good.

    Spidey can just hang back and watch the fun!

    • Strong Enough

      thank god you don’t work in hollywood

      horrible idea

      • Joe

        LOL! What’s wrong with it? Sorry am in a Prometheus mood right now…so I thought it’ll be interesting to watch a Venon/Aliens shakedown.

        Classic B movie I know but hey! :)

    • THGhost

      Maybe as direct-to-DVD cartoon, but not as a feature film.

    • Guns Of Navarone

      Perhaps you could send that script into Paul WS Anderson or Uwe Boll when you have finished it.

    • Pocketses

      What’s wrong with it? Well, I’ll just start with EVERYTHING. There’s no need, and absolutely no continuity between the two characters to necessitate a crossover film. And, even if there were, Venom isn’t a commodity like that, right now in the public’s eye, he is just that awful villain from the bad Spider-Man film. And, he’s also just a bad character all around.

      Venom only works with Spider-man. His need to exist is due to the Symbiot and Brock’s mutual hatred for Peter Parker/Spider-Man. So…why would Venom be fighting a Xenomorph again?

    • mattedscreen

      Personally, I would rather see the planned but never executed Predator VS Prostate, PvP. A heart warming drama about an angry alien hunter who learns to love after finding out his enlarged prostate is preventing his ability to urinate, he then makes peace with his worst enemy, Dutch so they can complete their bucket list, hopping from planet to planet on a quest for interstellar domination. Directed by Alexander Payne.

      • Joe

        I’ll buy that for a dollar!
        Ultimate mashup.

  • spiderfan17361

    “This is an interesting contradiction because being close to the comics means Venom has to arrive via a Spider-Man story, specifically the one with the alien symbiote. It doesn’t sound like anything extra-terrestrial fits in with the scientific/realistic approach Arad is advocating, so I’m curious to see where Venom falls in between its faithfulness to the comics”

    - Actually it sounds to me like they’re going to be going the Ultimate route with Venom; in USM the symbiote was actually a substance designed by Eddie Brock’s and Peter Parker’s parents who were searching for a way to cure cancer (Parker and Brock both grew up as best friends because their parents were scientists who worked together)…it’s definitely sounding like Amazing Spider-Man is going to be using something similar to this origin for the symbiote, it’s a much more grounded approach compared to its classic extraterrestrial-from-outer-space origin and they’ll probably be looking to differentiate from Raimi’s version of Venom anyway. I personally would not mind this take on Venom, just as long as the suit still functions like a parasitic symbiote.

    • Grayden

      ..and not star Topher Grace.

  • Hawkey19

    In terms of origin of the character, they could very well go down the Ultimate Spiderman route where the venom symbiote is the result of a scientific experiment rather than an alien life form. They could very easily tie this into the science-centric Amazing Spiderman film, as he could very well be the result of something that happens behind the scenes in the current or future films. And if all goes well, they could tie that world into the world of the Avengers with a good amount of ease, without creating too convaluted of a universe, so long as Sony does in fact try to make a deal with Disney/Marvel.

  • growndhawgg

    Brraaaaainsss

  • Dudebro
  • AlexHeyNa

    They should pull a Dark Knight, and put Venom — Spidey’s Joker to his Batman — in the sequel to The Amazing Spider-man, and put an awesome new twist on it. The formula works, so why not?

    Screw the Venom movie. Leave that for a later date, and keep it separate from the universe of TAS.

  • LEM

    It’s funny how they want to make sure all these things can be accepted in the same universe even though they’re using material that has millions of fans already and will pay to see a well made film over and over again.

  • Hooters

    I would love to see Jeremy Renner play Eddie Brock, but that’s not going to happen. I hope they get a better director then Josh.

  • Dean Kish

    If you watch Ultimate Spider-Man. Venom is actually an experiment gone incredibly wrong and was created by Doc Octopus. Maybe Avi Arad is thinking about taking that kind of approach to changing Venom’s origin. Remender’s run on Venom also introduced the idea that the host and Venom are separated by the govt and then only connected when a mission calls for it.

  • 97point6

    Not a chance in hell this will be made.

  • 97point6

    More words here in Comments than will find their way onto a script page. Will never be made.

  • MR.Rich316

    I think it will definitely get made. If you were a studio executive for a studio that had the rights to a superhero and its “universe” of characters, how could you justify not trying to go the Avenger’s route to a billion dollars? I’m not saying it will be good or lead to a big ensemble film,but, the studios go with what works and The Avenger’s worked in the most important way to them…$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

  • Joe

    Sheesh. None of you guys can take a joke.
    I’m referring to the Aliens v Venom movie I suggested.

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  • me

    cant wait for this OMG!

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  • Brooke

    Ahhh! I love Venom! I don’t care how, but I just wanna see Venom get some more screen time!

  • D22

    I highly doubt it. You can’t make a PG-13 spiderman with Venom… its just now how Hollywood works.

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