Rumor: Edgar Wright Left ANT-MAN Due to Significant Script Rewrites from Marvel

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Many are still reeling from yesterday’s news that Edgar Wright has left Marvel’s Ant-Man, myself included.  Wright’s exit came as a pretty big shock to everyone, since Wright has been developing the comics adaptation with Marvel going so far back as 2006—he even showed up at Comic-Con alongside Jon Favreau before production on the first Iron Man began.  For Wright to leave Ant-Man after that much investment, and just months before filming was poised to begin, something significant must have occurred behind the scenes.

While there’s no telling when or if we’ll ever get the full story of what happened, a new report has surfaced claiming that Wright’s exit was due to significant rewrites to his script by the higher-ups at Marvel.  Hit the jump for more.

edgar-wright-ant-manWith a July 17, 2015 release date set for Ant-Man, Wright was deep in pre-production on the film when he left—he had even set his entire principal cast with Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, and Michael Douglas in the leads.  The official word from Marvel was that this was an amicable split due to “creative differences”, and that a replacement director would be announced shortly with the film’s release date still intact.

So what were these “creative differences”?  A rumor surfaced on reddit claiming that production was running behind schedule, but that doesn’t make sense given that filming isn’t even set to begin until July.  The folks over at Latino Review, however, have a much more plausible explanation for the exit, as they claim that the script for Ant-Man—which Wright has been fine-tuning with co-writer Joe Cornish for many, many years now—went through a significant rewrite by Marvel that the filmmaker was uncomfortable filming:

About 3 months ago, Marvel had notes. The meat of the notes were about the core morality of the piece, must include franchise characters. etc., These notes came from the big four at Marvel. Joe Cornish and Edgar Wright did two drafts to try and answer the notes without compromising their vision.

6 weeks ago Marvel took the script off them and gave the writing assignment to two very low credit writers. One of the writers was from Marvel’s in house writing team. Edgar stayed cool, agreed to stay on the project, and read the draft.

The script came in this week and was completely undone. Poorer, homogenized, and not Edgar’s vision. Edgar met with Marvel on Friday to formally exit and the announcement went out directly after.

ant-man-set-imageThough Latino Review is hit and miss when it comes to casting or spoilers for specific Marvel films, this rundown of the behind-the-scenes events doesn’t sound entirely out of the realm of possibility.  The studio is known for wielding a heavy amount of power on their films, and they’ve been moving farther and farther away from auteur-driven features for a while now, and this tweet from Simon Pegg appears to suggest that Wright left on his own volition. Moreover, Edgar Wright is a brilliant filmmaker with a wholly unique style.  I would’ve been shocked if he tailored Ant-Man—a movie he’s been working on since before the Marvel Cinematic Universe ever existed—to Marvel’s every whim.

The report notes that the cast doesn’t have the option to leave the film even if they want to, so it appears that Wright’s group of actors will remain the same.  Additionally, LR says that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige always “batted for” Wright and Cornish, saying this push for script changes came from the higher ups (possibly even the folks at Disney).  Again, there’s absolutely no confirmation that any of this is true, but it feels very much in line with how Marvel operates.

And this is my problem with studios moving towards “shared universe” franchises.  No one film can be too different from the others, and when you bring in a guy like Edgar Wright who has a very specific vision and a distinct filmmaking style, he’s not allowed to rock the boat.  These are episodes, not movies, and in the world of television, directors are forced to adapt to the style of the overall TV show instead of exuding their own personal style.

Yes Iron Man 3 had many unmistakable Shane Black moments and it looks like James Gunn’s offbeat comedic tone remains intact in this August’s Guardians of the Galaxy, but you can bet that specific plot beats and character arcs that service the larger MCU were “requested” by the higher ups at Marvel on both films with an unwavering tone.  The difference between those films and Wright’s Ant-Man is that both Black and Gunn signed on knowing they’d be working in the larger Marvel universe.  Wright and Cornish conceived of their plan for Ant-Man before the studio’s MCU vision materialized, and if this report from LR is true, then I commend Wright for sticking to his guns and leaving with his integrity intact.

I think Joss Whedon spoke for us all when he tweeted the following photo earlier today, and though Wright leaving Ant-Man is certainly a disappointment, I can’t wait to see what he tackles next.




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  • Daniel O’Reilly

    After what Marvel did to John Favreau on Iron Man 2 (even after he directed the best film in MCU), this is really no surprise, if it’s true

    • Ben Kenobi

      Favreau was abusing, each sequence he requested salary increase….and Iron Man 2 was weak anyway!!

      • Hungh?

        Is english your 1st language?

        What the hell was Favreau abusing?

      • Ben Kenobi

        No, i’m brazilian and to be honest i’m still having classes. I supposed that the word “abuse” that is similar to the portuguese one “abusar” has that same meaning in our both languages, but now you left me em doubt! In Portuguese, the word “abuse/abusar” has several meanings and one of them is “taking advantage”. But maybe that word “abuse” has a very different meanig in english, so i will ask to my teacher!

      • http://tarek-to-verso.over-blog.com/ tarek

        Favreau abused gwyneth paltrow. But don’t say a word.

      • Daniel O’Reilly

        There were definitely some tense negotiations over salary, but Marvel also rushed IM2 into production without a proper screenplay and then shoehorned Black Widow, Shield and the Avengers into a plot that all ready had Whiplash, Justin Hammer and War Machine. It was a small miracle the film worked at all.

      • Guy Smiley

        But it didn’t. IM2 is a piece of shit. Not that IM3 was much better, because it wasn’t.

        Downey, and, to an extent, his on-screen chemistry with Paltrow, is all those two films have going for them.

      • Daniel O’Reilly

        I’d agree it’s a very subjective opinion. I personally felt it did just enough to keep all of its (many) balls in the air, but you’re right, without Downey (or Paltrow), it wouldn’t have even been close.

    • http://tarek-to-verso.over-blog.com/ tarek

      No one was behind the mess in Iron man 2 but Favreau himself,
      Favreau was more interested in showing off his little person than making a good movie.

      • GrimReaper07

        Apparently Marvel rewrote some of the scenes, mainly the ones involving Mickey Rourke

      • World’s Finest Comments

        Are they responsible for that @#$%ing bird scene?

      • GrimReaper07

        I didn’t care enough for Iron Man 2 to remember what scene you’re talking about lol.

      • Doug

        lol right? I have no recollection of a “bird scene.” And I’m fine with that.

      • http://tarek-to-verso.over-blog.com/ tarek

        Hey! I wount my bourt.

      • Daniel O’Reilly

        Not sure exactly what it was, but apparently a lot of footage shot for Rourke (stuff he thought made Whiplash less one dimensional) also ended up being cut.

      • http://tarek-to-verso.over-blog.com/ tarek

        Whiplash was indeed a laughable villain in Iron man 2.
        Maybe one day we will have an extended edition for Iron man 2 with those deleted scenes inserted back in the movie.

    • Batt Damon

      They shoehorned a lot of crap into IM2 to turn it into a segue for The Avengers. They fumbled the ending of the first Captain America to throw in a Nick Fury cameo and they took final cut away from Alan Taylor on Thor 2, front-loading the movie with tons of exposition as well as throwing in a post-credits scene into his movie that he was openly unhappy with.

      • ChristianLyons

        Nobody really gets final cut anymore.

    • Person

      Iron Man 2 was nothing more than a $200 million trailer for The Avengers, and is by far the worst MCU movie (Thor 2 is bland but not necessarily bad – Iron Man 2 is BAD). As long as Iron Man 2 remains MCU’s worst movie, they’ll be fine.

  • TJW

    “These are episodes, not movies, and in the world of television, directors are forced to adapt to the style of the overall TV show instead of exuding their own personal style.”

    Bingo. People want to point to Iron Man 3 and The Avengers, but those are the least Shane Black and least Joss Whedon joints I’ve ever seen.

    • Stefan Bonomo

      Really? Cause I’ve heard many complaints from people that The Avengers and Iron Man 3 were obviously Joss Whedon and Shane Black films, perhaps a little TOO much. (I didn’t think so)

    • Batt Damon

      Iron Man 3 was sooo Shane Black. It’s one of the reasons I have such a strong affection for it. I think the Avengers was as Joss-y as it could have been since the story was already in place when he board the movie but he managed to inject as much of himself into there as possible. It looks like this could be the end of that era though.

  • GrimReaper07

    “These are episodes, not movies, and in the world of television, directors are forced to adapt to the style of the overall TV show instead of exuding their own personal style.”

    100% this. **** Marvel.

    • DC

      yeah **** marvel for bringing us quality super hero movies!!! Captain america 2 was soooo bad!!!!! Marvel sucks!!!!

      • GrimReaper07

        No, **** Marvel for putting out homogenized fast food films that all feel the same and don’t allow for personal creative vision.

      • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

        What are you talking about? “Homogenized fast-food films that all feel the same?!” I don’t know what movies you’ve been watching, but that not any Marvel Studios film I have seen.

      • EW

        I have to agree with Grim here…Marvel gets directors who they can control to put out the vision they want. All of the Marvel films have the same look and feel to them and they rarely, if ever, touch on deeper themes. There is nothing below the surface of a Marvel movie. They’re simply good entertainment.

  • kps

    It still doesn’t make sense to me. It’s not like Marvel just saw the script a few weeks before shooting. He’s been working on it for years and I assume had plenty of meetings with Marvel before officially signing on. I can’t believe they would get cold feet so close to shooting. Really terrible, if true. Also goes to show it’s not just Feige running the show and he has higher up suits to answer to.

  • enderandrew

    Is this more plausible when he and Cornish have been rewritting the script and showing it to Marvel since 2006?

    Marvel suddenly wanted major changes now that they haven’t voiced in the past 8 years?

    • Adam Chitwood

      The script was finished in 2007. They didn’t start fine-tuning it again until Wright went into pre-production last fall/winter.

  • LL

    All that time and energy Edgar put into it. What a waste of talent and effort.

    • Kpaqu1

      I’m betting he made fair coin for his work.

      • World’s Finest Comments

        The money has nothing to do with it. Time, vision and trust are much more valuable.

      • Kpaqu1

        Good luck paying for food with “time, vision, and trust.”

      • World’s Finest Comments

        And good luck trying to fill the empty hole in your life with money. =)

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  • TigerFIST

    If these rumors are true. I’m extremely disappointed!!! FUCK THE HIGHER UPS @ MARVEL!!! I can’t believe this shit! Seriously! Let the man make his movie!

  • gar216

    I can honestly say that I prefered phase 1 over phase 2. I hated Iron Man 3. Cap 3 and Thor were okay, I just liked the originals better.

    • RiddleThemThis

      I quite liked the new cap film, iron man 3 and thor 2 were pretty awful though.

    • GrimReaper07

      I’m with you. Cap 2 was pretty good but still not better than the first Iron Man and the rest of the films were either ok (Iron Man 3) or extremely bland (Thor 2)

      • Guy Smiley

        Thor 2 wasn’t bland… Far more fun than the dreadful IM3

      • Batt Damon

        Thor 2 was pretty bland. If anything, Iron Man 3 was the most unique/stylistic of the Phase 2 movies.

      • GrimReaper07

        Thor 2 was one of the worst post-Iron Man Marvel movies IMO. Certainly the most boring of them all.

        I watched Iron Man 3 again yesterday and I think its pretty funny how comic book fans hate it just because of a stupid twist.

    • MJ

      I just saw Cap 3 myself as well. I used my time machine to go to 2016 and see it.

      • cimmerian

        Was it in April or July of 2016?

      • ChristianLyons

        So, who backed down on their release date?

    • Guy Smiley

      There is no Cap 3 yet… Cap 2 just came out and is one of the best comic book films ever. Certainly right up there with the first Iron Man, and The Avengers. The first Cap movie is OK, but not nearly in the same league as Cap 2. Both Thor movies have been pretty fun, and I’d call those middle-tier Marvel films (same goes for Incredible Hulk). Certainly better than IM2 or IM3.

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  • MJ

    Where are all of you Marvel butt-lickers now? Cat got your tongue?

    • Agent777

      I doubt they know who Ant-Man is. I doubt there are many Marvel fans who cross over with Marvel Studios fans.

    • aj

      where are all the anti-marvel studios trolls?.. oh wait, here they are.

  • DougW

    If the cast doesn’t want to work with a new director with a different script, they won’t. Generally you don’t want to work with people who don’t want to be there.

    • MJ

      Yes, because actors loving getting sued for breach of contract.

      • DougW

        It’s not just about contracts. Presumably Wright had a couple of contracts, too. You don’t force actors to do a movie they don’t want to do, especially when it’s not the one they signed on for. Marvel has been able to attract top level talent for their films. They don’t want to get a reputation for bullying stars. Believe me, if the cast members stay with the movie it won’t be because Marvel is threatening legal action.

      • MJ

        Try to tell that to Kim Bassinger. How’d her career work out for her after 93? Not so well.

      • DougW

        That was an indie film where the financing was dependent on her name. Not exactly the same situation as Marvel/Disney.

      • DougW

        That was an indie film where the financing was dependent on her name. Not exactly the same situation as Marvel/Disney.

  • Cjv95

    Again, from the previous post:

    awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

  • St. Jack

    The beginning of the end of all love for everything marvel all the time. Thank god!

  • Colin Christian

    This makes perfect horrible sense.Everyone must tow the artistic line,there are billions at stake,screw art,everything must fit,we have product to move,no one will upset that.

    • jay

      Exactly. which is a shame because don’t they get the reason people are so excited for Guardians of the Galaxy is because it doesn’t look or feel like any of there other movies. the only reason i cared about Ant-Man was because Edgar Wright was so passionate about it. too bad

    • MJ

      Yea, because Ant Man was going to be such a great artistic achievement before this happened….perhaps as great as huge rubber girl heads….LOL

  • YodaRocks

    In Feigi we trust.

    • Agent777

      In proven, compentent, enjoyable filmaking I trust.

      But maybe I’m a freak.

  • straight arrow

    It was a matter of time DISNEY would be the death of marvel…

    • Agent777

      “It’s on America’s tortured brow, that Micky Mouse has grown up a cow.” – David Bowie

      • Theodore Trout

        “Time is quaaludes and red wine” – Ibid.

  • Agent777

    So Marvel could of had Ant-Man and Wasp in the Avengers, and the Avengers might not of sucked?

    I finally saw that, and Hawkeye was a complete and utter waste of everything.

  • Jamie Teller

    Yet again, studios make choices that will create bland films that will make money in the short term but will be forgotten about in the long run. Not that I’m going to try and tell the studios not to consider the bottom line, but…how much less money do you REALLY think you’ll make by letting the directors of each film have a little more artistic autonomy? People will see these movies regardless. Let the directors spruce them up a bit.

    • Agent777

      In the long run, this will all blow up in Marvel’s face. I doubt these films will be as big in 20 years. Deffinetly not if there is a sea change and Marvel makes films that don’t need to play like TV shows.

  • TheAvengers Isn’t a Good Movie

    Guess Marvel was just doing what they do best by stifling & streamlining would-be creative visions.

  • Strifeshadow

    Hmmmm. Cornetto.

    This sucks for Wright, he;s a cool dude with an excellent sense of scene creativity.

    But maybe this is a good thing. Scott Pilgrim was laboriously dependent on the comics, almost to the point it ruined the movie.

    I think the Ant Man idea could kill Marvel’s whole universe with one stroke. I mean, how do you get past the giant penis?

    Even Loki would surrender to the Avengers out of sheer penis envy.

    • GrimReaper07

      Doesn’t the fact that he was going to have both Ant-men together in one same movie prove it wasn’t going to be that dependent on the comics though? From what I gather that’s came as a surprise to fans of the comics.

      • Strifeshadow

        Hey, I’m not really fussed to be honest. As long as they attach a decent director to Doctor Strange, I’m happy. It would suck if they messed up that movie. Strange could open up a whole knew avenue for Marvel studios.

  • Drake

    Ehh, why is everybody so easily hopping on the Marvel bashing? Sure there was Iron Man 2 and to a lesser extent, Thor 2, but so far they have been pretty solid. And God knows that if they can let James Gunn do his thing on Guardians of the Galaxy, then they should have been able to let Wright do his thing on Ant-Man. The only way this story makes sense is if Wright and Cornish’s story would screw up the Marvel-verse too much. As bad as it may sound, Marvel isn’t going to let Edgar Wright mess up their pre-planned multi-movie, multi-character universe. But one would assume that they would have been able to figure this out before they signed him on as director…

  • Redjester

    Well this is a movie I certainly won’t be watching now. Not every Marvel film has to be vanilla. Chocolate and strawberry are delicious too.

    I’m curious if anyone else will follow Wright by jumping ship?

    • Anon

      I’m hoping Whedon and Gunn jump ship!

  • Royale With Cheese

    This makes sense if you think about it. Let me preface this by saying that I am a fan of Edgar Wright but the guy has a very niche audience. Wright has directed 4 films and the the domestic box-office of those films combined doesn’t cross 100 million. This means that his “vision” isn’t going to put people in the seats. Would his version of Ant-Man be one of the coolest and unique Marvel films to date? Most probably, yeah, but the people who would have gone to see it expecting a Marvel product would have been disappointed and the studio knew that. Disney invested a ton of money into a product and they want to play it safe and not disrupt the formula that has made that product successful. If you own a restaurant that serves bagels and you’re doing extremely well and are bought out by a major corporation they are not going to want you to start serving indian food.

    • Sten

      Why hire an Indian cook then?

      • Royale With Cheese

        Because it doesn’t take a genius to make bagels.

      • Sten

        Then why hire a genius then?

      • Royale With Cheese

        Perhaps they were interested in what he could come up with but then couldn’t understand it? Or maybe they were looking for him to come up with a generic blockbuster but with a dash of his unique flair and style but overestimated his ability to be mediocre?

      • Sten

        That’s what I thought.

      • Royale With Cheese

        I’m happy for you?

      • Sten

        Thank you?

      • Royale With Cheese

        I made an attempt to delete that comment in order to wrap this up but apparently once you’ve posted THERE IS NO TURNING BACK, lol.

      • Duder NME

        Name value. “Edgar Wright” gets fans salivating over a property that remains unknown to the masses, unlike say “Uwe Boll” or “Brett Ratner”.

  • percy393

    This makes perfect horrible sense.Everyone must tow the artistic line,there are billions at stake,screw art,everything must fit,we have product to move,no one will upset that http://bit.ly/newstimez

    • RedMercury

      Actually, my attitude is that these sorts of things are what one-shots are for.

      Let people make the movies they want to make. If they “damage” the MCU, create a one-shot that puts it back.

      Take Iron Man 3 for example (SPOILERS, needless to say). I never read the Iron Man comic books and only knew vaguely of the Mandarin. So I enjoyed the movie and thought the twist was entertaining. But, in theory, it damaged the MCU.

      Solution: A one-shot that sort of puts things back to right. No, neither of them were “the real Mandarin.” There’s still a “real Mandarin” out there. Heck, maybe they’ll get Ben Kingsley to play the “real Mandarin” (remember, they gave the actor plastic surgery).

      Tell good stories. That’s what we want. That’s what we’ll pay for. While it’s worthwhile to make sure they fit in a cohesive whole, that can be “fixed” later.

      • Duder NME

        It only “damaged” fans’ precious widdle expectations of what they want these movies to be, without lifiting a finger to do anything about it. The twist was fun and unlikely affects whatever Thanos may have in plan or how much shwarma Thor pigs out on.

  • Davis

    Reddit = Total bullshit…..Do I need to say it?

  • Clay

    That’s really a shame. The most exciting Marvel film in development just
    lost the one thing that made it exciting. In my opinion, most Marvel movies are
    cinematic fast food. They’re colorful and fun while you’re watching but
    immediately forgotten. With the exception of a couple films there’s not
    going to be much that’s remembered.

    Call me crazy, but I enjoy
    waiting 3 years between films. Anticipation is fun. Even if the result
    isn’t what you’d wish, you know the studio at least invested the
    requisite amount of time and effort. Having 2 films a year isn’t fun, it’s an
    inevitable chore. We should expect movies that spend 150-200 million
    dollars to be more than a glorified television episode.

    Another thing I enjoy: stakes. Marvel films don’t have any. There’s too much investment in the brand to rock the boat. I’m getting a little sick of being manipulated into thinking a character is dead only to have them return before the credits roll. Note to Marvel: grow some balls.

    With love,

    Clay

    • GrimReaper07

      Oh my god thank you! I’ve been trying for ages to find an expression which described these types of movies. Cinematic fast food is perfect.

      • MJ

        Yea, because the comic books have like Pulitzer Prize winning-level stories…no one would ever call comic book stories as fast food….LOL

      • lordjim

        it´s not just the scripts – batman returns was an art film in line with german expressionism.if anything comic book movies should have style and balls, marvel studio movies just don´t.

      • GrimReaper07

        Ever read a Batman comic book? Maus? V for Vendetta? Watchmen? Blankets? The medium is filled with amazing work that could never be categorized as fast food.

      • MJ

        That’s all fast food. Don’t get we wrong though, I happen to like fast food too.

        Let’s now kid ourselves here though. Let’s just be honest about it.

      • Duder NME

        So…. no, you haven’t read them, or Love and Rockets, Strangers in Paradise, or any Daniel Clowes. “Fast food”? I do not think that means what you think it means.

    • MJ

      “There’s too much investment in the brand to rock the boat. I’m getting a little sick of being manipulated into thinking a character is dead only to have them return before the credits roll. Note to Marvel: grow some balls.”

      Yes, because in the comic books, they just kill off the main characters all the time and end the series…..LOL

      • Clay

        These aren’t comic books, they’re movies. Successful movies give you reasons to care.

      • MJ

        You do realize that the whole point of Marvel and DC movies is that they are based on comic books, right dude?

        You need to manage your expectations. When the source is fast food, then the movie can’t take it that much farther…maybe you could go from say McDonalds to Panera, perhaps, but you can’t stretch McDonalds into Ruth’s Chris no matter how hard you try.

      • Batt Damon

        The movies should be trying to avoid bullshit comic book deaths.

  • Stefan Bonomo

    While yes I think this news is terrible and sucks, but it just shows how the internet can turn on ANYTHING on a dime.

    Just last month, people were praising Captain America The Winter Soldier for being an awesome movie, once again proving Marvel can do not wrong. Then they see the Guardians of the Galaxy trailer and we are all excited for it. Everyone’s still excited for Avengers 2. Then the director of Ant-Man leaves, and suddenly Marvel/ Disney is the worst company of all time.

    • Drake

      Preach it! People need to calm down about this. If Marvel can let James Gunn make Guardians of the Galaxy, then I’m guessing Wright was making some asinine choice that would have screwed with the massive, already established universe.

      • Batt Damon

        Yes, that movie he’s been working on for 8 years that the MCU is partial structured around would have done terrible things for the universe

    • Kpaqu1

      The internet taking things to the extremes? That never happens.

    • Manchego Cheese

      I think GotG is getting praise because it *looks* like they’ve backed a director in to provide a film that isn’t just rolling off an assembly line, made of the same parts, with the same tone; essentially it looks like a film in his own vision.

      In that regard Wright is very, very good. His films have a style, an energy, a voice all his own. I think fans are mourning a missed opportunity for the property and director to do something genuinely unique and exciting more than anything else.

      When and if they start compromising the integrity and creativity of those they’ve hired to produce their content the quality and imagination of those products becomes diluted, I think.

      Wright and Ant-Man had been spoken about for so long it seemed odd they’d fall out so close to production officially beginning. They shouldn’t be looking for someone to come in and shoot a script that has existed for less than 20% of the process, one that is a cannibalised version of something that has been worked on for 8 years.

      Its likely they’ll end up with gun for hire, a guy who’ll shoot what’s in front of him, no questions asked.

      This is all supposition, I know, but good or otherwise Wright’s Ant-Man was going to be his film.

  • Hey…HEY!

    Hey, who has two thumbs and was right on in his comment from the last article?

    This guy!

  • Choming Girl

    According to me its better then this because http://bit.ly/1jP7iTj

  • MJ

    I think now would be a good time to pull the plug on the live-action Ant Man movie.

    This production should be converted to an animated movie that is directed at kids and early teens. That’s where Ant Man belongs. The general public is never going to buy this as something aimed at anyone over 14.

    • Ashtalon

      The actors might have pay or play clauses in their contracts and will have to be payed. Also, Marvel/Disney may have already had merchandising and retail partners involved with Ant-Man. Also, it leaves a hole in their released schedule.

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  • Muhammad Alif B As’shaari

    I really hope the backlash from the fans would somehow encourage the studio to keep them in the projects… there hasn’t been many occasions that their decisions has been seen as negatives, but this is one of them. Please give Wright the benefit of the doubt as much as the ones given to James Gunn, if the six year journey doesn’t tell you anything about his passion on the topic.

    • TJW

      Honestly, the fans who really care that much about this at this point make up such a small percentage of the eventual ticket buyers, I doubt Marvel will take the backlash into account.

      • Muhammad Alif B As’shaari

        Hm… that is true unfortunately but their decisions has always been good on the eyes of the audiences, except these two unfortunate news…

  • Scurvy

    I think someone else said it best when they stated that if Edgar Wright really wanted to make Ant Man his way, he should have done it 8 years ago before the whole MCU was set up. He probably would have been given free reign at that point but now he was asked to fit his movie into an already established box and didn’t want to.

    No one was wrong here, it just didn’t work out.

  • Arnold

    Screw this, so Marvel studios is no different from big studios in Hollywood, getting into every aspect of the movie without letting the filmmaker to have creative freedom -___-

  • Strifeshadow

    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=100702#comments

    Come on Collider, CBM is ahead of you. Post this article already. ^^

    Proof that Disney & Marvel are doing everything to stamp creativity and panache out of ‘their’ brand and universe.

    I think what James Gunn said is cool, but I don’t like him as a director. I will not be seeing Guardians of the Galaxy. ‘Super’ was awful. GotG will try too hard to be ‘Iron Man’ in space, and suck hard.

    (Ronan the Accuser looks badass though. Lee Pace is having a great year.)

  • Yup

    MARVEL has known of this SCRIPT for a LONG TIME.
    SO WHAT HAPPENED?

    Well…GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY happened.
    They unleashed JAMES GUNN and kept pushing him to make the movie more JAMES GUNN.

    Now they have seen the movie and the Brass let out a collective, “UH OH!”
    Now they are trying to REIGN in their ARTISTIC DIRECTORS.

    Either that or maybe Wright’s “VISION” just isn’t up to MARVEL STANDARDS.

    Shhhh! I Know! We always side with the “Talent” over the “Studio”. Bad! Bad!

    BUT!
    Why should his vision for Ant-Man be worthy? Because he worked on it for years? Because you liked his previous movies? Because he loves the character of Ant-Man?

    Tell that to Ang Lee’s Hulk, Ridley Scott’s Prometheus, some would say Aronofsky’s Noah, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and dozen or more films that a Talented Director invested large amounts of time and love into.

    Doesn’t mean what he was pushing was any good.
    He’s not the only person who can make a good Ant-Man movie.

  • Doug

    I wonder what this means for the Ant Man actors in the future. If Paul Rudd is contractually committed to do this film, is he likewise committed to Avengers 3? Or will he do his due, the leave?

    Also, there’s a lot of talk about “bad” Marvel movies: IM2, IM3, Thor 2. Have we all forgotten Incredible Hulk? No one ever talks about that movie.

    • Manchego Cheese

      Incredible Hulk is the worst Marvel film by some distance. It’s got an almost telemovie quality about it.

      Although, I didn’t mind Edward Norton. Would have been great to see him bouncing off Downey, even if his interpretation of the character wouldn’t have been so unsure of himself.

  • Jonboy

    Honestly though. Edgar Wright has been trying to make this movie since 2006. The Cornetto films (even Scott Piligrim) weren’t big production, PG-13, wide audience movies. Whedon and Black did an impressive job balancing there flavor of film making and the Marvel big picture. If he left a job after 8 years it’s sad cuz he was almost there. Marvel may seem like tyrants but it’s their characters that they’ve handled for decades. It would’ve been sweet to see him make a Marvel movie but it would’ve been impressive if he took Marvel’s restrictions and made a kick ass movie anyway.

  • astronautbutter

    I would argue this is a good thing. Everybody, especially directors, should understand these are episodic features. The point is to be part of a shared vision that gives audiences characters they never would have seen before. The unified vision is working great. It’s easy for super visionary directors to get precious with their vision. I have no doubt Edgar Wright will continue to give us treats for years to come, but Ant-Man is already a tough sell to casual audiences and needs that strong Marvel vision to succeed.

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  • ChristianLyons

    My unwanted opinion is that Marvel is due a bomb. They can’t sustain their success. Out of everything they have in the pipeline, Ant-Man has potential to be that bomb, so they probably wanted to put any potential fires by adding things to the plot. I mean, I’m former comic collector, and have thousands of Marvel Comics back home in storage…guess how many Ant-Man comics I have?

    • Strong Enough

      7,000

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  • Manchego Cheese

    This goes to show how rare a commodity trust and faith is in business.

    More executives wanting to be filmmakers.

    I love this quote from The Damned United, where Derby manager Brian Clough is speaking to his chairman and saying the success or otherwise of a football club is down to the manager and the players. I’ve slightly appropriated the dialogue (it was about football initially) to fit the scene.

    “The way I see it theres no point being in this game unless you want to beat the best; and be the best. That’s all the fans want, and if you really have their best interests at heart, not just impressing your friends, I suggest you keep your eyes on the running of your TV networks and theme parks, keep your opinions to yourself and start signing some fucking cheques, there’s a good lad. Keep the making of these movies to the professionals.”

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  • Duder

    JJ Abrams, you’re next. With only 19 months to go, don’t think you’re not. Begun, the Disney Wars have.

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  • TheDevil’sAdvocate

    What the hell is going on at Marvel Studios?

  • Guest

    In a word: “Disney”.

  • Daniel O’Reilly

    Latino Review is also the source of the Daredevil rumor, so take that for what you will.

  • Batt Damon

    And that turned out to be true

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