During the interview, Will was really open about everything. He talked about what led him to making “Seven Pounds”, what else he’s working on, the difficulty of doing his love scenes with Rosario Dawson, how hard it is balancing his life with his stardom.I have to say, for a movie star of his caliber, Will is the best at doing press and he always gives great answers. If you’re a fan of Will’s, you’ll love the interview.
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Will Smith: Yes.
You know you’ve been referred to a lot in the past year as the biggest movie star on planet Earth…
…so how does the view look from there?
Will: It’s ah…I read…I wish I could remember. You know my wife always remembers where she read stuff and it sounds cool when you can say the author and stuff, but I read somebody said he was a mountain climber and he set his mind, I want to climb Everest. I’m going to do it. I’m going to do it. I’m going to do it. And he climbed and he got to the top and realized he couldn’t breathe, all right? And the only thought that he had was how the hell can I get down off of here as fast as I can? And it’s like this weird thing that kicks in your mind like be careful what you wish for, you know? You go and you fight and go and fight to get there and there’s this discomfort that sets in. And it’s really the last probably year and a half have been kind of scary and a little bit frustrating for me. I had an epiphany after working on “Seven Pounds”. I realized that part of that feeling was that I was looking at my life and I was looking at my self and my future too much around these movies. And after “Seven Pounds” l just had this huge epiphany of how much more I want to be, how much more I want to do, and the idea of living in service to humanity vs. living in service to the commerce of my movies. And that explosion just totally washed away that sort of scary uncomfortable feeling. It’s like however people look at me as a movie star or not….I want to be remembered as a man who cared about people and dedicated his life to making the world better, so with that I went from thinking of myself in this high place to damn I’ve got so much to do. I need to get to work. And that’s so much better a place for me emotionally.
Are you just
Will: I know, right. I’m just so dude at the dinner table, you know?
Does this mean you want to make message movies though from now on?
Will: Well not message movies…it’s like with “Seven Pounds” I was attracted to “Seven Pounds” not because there was a fantastic one-liner that I could sell around the world very easily, you know? I was attracted to “Seven Pounds” because there were ideas. There were emotions. There were parts of this character that I was hiding myself from. So it was…I took “Seven Pounds” almost as a self-examination–as a self-exploration and Jada said something to me a few months ago. She said, “you know it’s funny how much I was rejecting this character.” And she was saying “it’s funny how you’re doing that. She’s like you know that you are Ben, right?” I was like what? She was like, “the reason you’re so nice and the reason you fight so hard to be up tone is because you’re at war with that guy inside of you.” You know? I was like damn deep lady! That’s what I realized it’s like the projects I was choosing and all like everything had to be okay in the end or it emotionally hurt me, right? So now my sensibilities are becoming slightly less delicate and I may be able to venture out a little bit more into the world of emotional and artistic ambiguity in a way that it strikes me as more authentic but it’s terrifying for me just as a child growing up. It’s like I needed to know and my grandmother made sure I knew and God is going to make everything okay. So however scary you get, however bad life is just know that there’s somebody in a high place that’s on your side. So like to play a character who doesn’t necessarily believe that—to feel like he has to fix it. God made a mistake and it’s his responsibility to fix it and how to carry that emotional weight is a terrifying space for me emotionally and artistically.
What did it for you?
Will: Yeah, you know.. “Seven Pounds”…I’ve been exploring the idea of trauma and the relationship between trauma and continuing life, right? So with “I Am Legend” and then into “Hancock” and now with “Seven Pounds” I’m starting the character on trauma, right? And then I was asking the question, “well, what’s the difference between-you know-someone who falls into depression and someone like Nelson Mandela or Muhammad Ali or Gandhi or Mother Theresa?” They just keep going in the face of-you know-the ultimate weight of humanity and life. And the thing that I discovered on “Seven Pounds” is it’s purpose. When you have a purpose, when you wake up and you’ve dedicated your life to something beyond yourself, all is bearable, right? And it just so exploded in my mind with this movie and with this character and if there’s been a movie in my career that I would say changed my life it’s “Seven Pounds”.
Not “Independence Day”?
Will: Not “Independence Day”, you know? When I punched that alien and said, “Welcome to Earth” that was a huge moment, you know?
Will: See with the love…like for me, my grandmother was really firm and…my mother and grandmother…about how men are supposed to treat women. My grandmother…you know I started driving and you know when you start driving you’re excited. I run down and go hop in the car and start it and I’m ready and my grandmother would just stand outside. And she would just stand…oh sorry grandma. I’d get out and run around and open the door, you know so she could get in and close the door. So it’s like, for me, my worst nightmare is for an actress to come on my set and feel like I’m taking this as an opportunity to get a little quickie feel, you know, some legal cheating going on. I just need, specifically, women to be comfortable around me. I just don’t want to feel like I’m that dude and doing a love scene and her clothes are off and all of that, it just puts me in my defensive space but it also hurts the acting if I’m in that space. You’ve got to find a comfortable space to feel free and your hand can brush up against her and all of that and it’s not “oh, excuse me”, you know?
How was Jada about all that? Was she cool?
Will: Oh, Jada said “listen, I know you are uncomfortable but you better not embarrass me”. She was like, “When you do that love scene you better show them what you’re working with.”
She didn’t come to the set that day?
Will: No, no she didn’t come to the set. I asked her to come to the set and she was like “Are you stupid?
Will, when you were kid did anybody ever do some random act of kindness for you or even as an adult? Did anyone ever done anything like that for you like out of the blue and unexpected that made you stop and say wow?
Will: I always go to my grandmother. She was that lady. My grandmother was the woman who-you know- you come home from school and there’s just 4 homeless people in the living room. You’re like, “oh Gee-Gee”. Oh we’re just going to give them a bath. Go do your homework. You know? I was like wow. There was always…my grandmother was the random…and the more random the better it made her feel. So I sort of grew up with the comprehension of what that is. It’s almost like it was her responsibility. She felt like it was her responsibility because of what she had been blessed with. It wasn’t a choice she was making to do nice things for people. It was a responsibility. It was things she had to do.
Mr. Smith, there’s all these reports about how easy and grounded you are to work with. How do you manage to stay so humble amidst of all your success?
Will: I think because I’m scared. It’s like I’m so grateful to be in a position that I’m in. To have been blessed with the things I’ve been blessed with and it’s like I was with Redman the other day in
On the Fascinating People interview with Barbara Walters you talked about the only racism you could think about in modern times that you felt was the racism in
Will: I think it’s something that…and it’s interesting. I’ve never liked the word racism because there’s so many other connotations that go with it, but it’s like the idea is if you put 10 black artists in a room and we sit down and we come up with something, it’s going to be about black people, right? Because that’s what we know, that’s what we’re going to come up with. So it’s not necessarily racism with studios and things like that. It’s just the majority of the creative people are of a certain background so that’s what gets produced. It’s more our responsibility to be able to display and be able to show how it could be different. To show how Set It Off could work for a mass audience. To show how Bad Boys could work or the Secret Life of Bees. We’ve got to be able to display how that could work. We can’t expect other people to write and produce and create our stories. So at Overbrook we did “Secret Life of Bees” this year and we did with Sam Jackson we did “Lakeview Terrace” and so, you know, we have a black President now so we have no more excuses.
Are you going to the Inauguration to meet him?
Will: Yes, yes. Absolutely.
Do you have like front-row seats or anything?
Will: It’s hard to get a front-row seat to that one, you know? I don’t know. Whatever our Commander-In-Chief asks of me I will humbly serve.
…maybe not a cabinet thing but I mean, is some sort of like emissary or you know good will ambassador or something…?
Good Will. I like that. You know, I am…Barrack being elected did something like I was crying uncontrollably.
That’s funny. (pointing at a reporter who was either asleep or not paying attention)
Will: That’s so rude. I cannot believe…I’m out of here. I’m out of here. (laughter) You’re lucky I don’t have a camera! No, he fell asleep. He fell asleep. (laughter). So no, what I’m saying is when Barrack was elected it’s like it so validated something that I believed for a long time. It’s like a black man in
To distribute your movies or make movies there?
Will: Well, for me it’ll be laying a conduit, you know, between the Muslin world and the West. I mean, it’s a perfect opportunity. I truly believe a large part of why Barack is in office is to do—and they’re not getting credit—is to do with MTV. What MTV did is lay conduit between the inner city, the suburbs and between American kids and the world. You can’t tell a 15-year old white kid a lie about black people. They know it’s not true. Whereas their parents and grandparents, you could feed any kind misinformation that you wanted to because they didn’t have the connectivity and the artistry. What MTV was able to create in connecting kids just of all races, creeds and colors, was able to release and relieve the fear that comes when you don’t know. So for me in my mind the deal that we’re making in the UAE is going to lay that type of artistic conduit between the West and the Muslin world.
Are you going to play him in a bio-pic?
Will: Am I going to play him? You know, I would love to. He just wrote a fantastic end to the first movie at least, so I’ll be looking to do it when he’s out of office in 8 years.
The aspect of the film with the connection of love…can you talk about how the two of you fall in love on screen is very believable?
Will: There’s an idea that was one of the central concepts that I fell in love with in this movie. We talked about trauma and there’s an idea that in the west we think about things in straight lines, okay? There’s birth, there’s life, and then there’s death. And at death there’s a cliff and it’s the you know the end of the world and everything’s over. And that’s not really how things work and if you take the ends of that line and bend it into a circle, there’s birth, life, death and then re-birth. Re-birth is inevitable. There’s nothing that can happen. There’s no literal or figurative death. You lose your job, you get divorced, anything like that. When it’s winter, everything dies. The spring is always coming. That’s just the way that it works, right? And this is a character who didn’t realize that. He didn’t realize that the spring and the metaphor of the spring being new love, right? He didn’t know that he could fall in love again. He didn’t know that what got broken could be repaired. And I loved that transformative power of love and that idea that you can’t destroy the crops just because it’s winter, right? You’ve got to stay prepared. Yes, your partner died or you lost your job, you lost your house-you know- you didn’t graduate when you were supposed to graduate but relax, relax. Please just pay attention. Stay focused because the spring is coming but you’ve got to be there and be prepared to catch the wave of new life and this movie is almost a cautionary tale because Ben Thomas realized it too late. He didn’t know and he set this thing in motion. He did this. He was trying to fix it and he set this thing in motion and he missed the natural tide, you know? I don’t know. I could do that for hours but I just love that concept.
Have you ever had one of those moments, you know, those winters when you didn’t think or know that spring would come or were you always a positive person?
Will: For me it was probably my divorce was one of the most emotionally devastating things I’ve ever experienced just for a lot of reasons. I had a 2-year old and the whole idea of failure. I just can’t…that idea that I was too weak to make something work was just devastating for me. The idea that somebody could not love me anymore and all of those things were going through my head and I really just gave up and I think that was the most devastating part. It’s like I don’t mind if Mike Tyson knocks me clean the hell out and I get hit when I’m swinging, but you can’t be cowering in the corner and get knocked out, you know? I just hated that feeling.
Did you take this character home with you because he’s so different than your own personality?
And did Jada comment that you’re too much of a downer for a little while?
Will: No, you know what? It’s crazy. When you start to program a character you don’t realize that when it’s sinking in it’s such a slow process, you know, you’re working on it every day but you don’t realize the adjustment. I remember one night we’re sitting at dinner and Jayden is Mr. Reality. He keeps me really informed about what’s going on in the house and he tells me the truth all the time. So we’re sitting at dinner, you know family dinner is a big thing in our house and it’s really quiet. So I lean over to Jayden—he’s my man. I say, “Hey Jayden I was like why is it so quiet?” He said, “Cos you look crazy!” (laughter) And it was like I had no idea because we had worked on this thing—one of the ideas with the character is that he’s trying to determine if someone’s a good person. So we talked about people all wear masks. You wear your sensitive lover mask, you know when it’s one of those special nights. You wear your disciplinarian mask when you’re dealing with your kids. You wear your law abiding citizen mask when you get pulled over by the police. And people have all these masks that they put on, so we developed this thing where my character is trying to look under people’s masks, right? But it’s a figurative idea but we said that he’s literally trying to look under the mask, right? So he’s literally trying to see if he can see around and under people’s masks but while he’s keeping his on. So I developed this really bizarre kind of behavior, you know, and if somebody would turn their eyes away, I would look. And I programmed it so much and I didn’t realize so I’m sitting at the dinner table, you know? And I’m looking and Jayden’s like… and I hadn’t even noticed that I had gotten to that place.
Has any role ever affected you this much?
Will: No, this is…on “Six Degrees of Separation” I got really messed up for awhile because I wasn’t aware. I didn’t know that when you reprogram your instincts that way, you really are changing yourself, right? And I didn’t know that. And the movie was over and I just needed to talk to Stockard Channing and I was like why do I need to call Stockard? And I call and say “hey Stockard. How you doing?” and she’s like “Hey, Will”. I’m like “Hey” and I’m just like oh my God. I’m falling in love with Stockard Channing and I didn’t realize that so at least this time I was prepared for the potential of it so it took me about 4 to 6 weeks to really just get back and remember who I was but it can be….it changes everything. Like for “Ali” it was great because it was like I was in shape and I was strong and it sort of changed things with Jada and I for “Ali”, you know?
Will, did you have to do any physical preparations for this? I know it’s not like a action movie like “I Am Legend” or you know…?
Will: Well, I lost about 15 pounds. I just wanted to have that really sort of more sunken in look.
So you stopped going to the gym or…?
Will: No, you actually have to go to the gym more. So I actually spent more time in the gym. I just changed what the work was. I was doing 2 a day cardio, so you just you know…?
What’s your normal regiment now that you’re not on a movie?
Will: I just eat now. Oh now, it’s not pretty under here right now. It’s so not “I Am Legend” right now. It’s “I Am Luggage” right here.
Speaking of Robert Neville and “I Am Legend”, there’s been a lot of talk about you possibly doing a prequel or a sequel to that film. Could you tell us what it is and what excites you about going back to that character?
Will: We have a fantastic prequel idea. We’re still trying to work through a couple of bumps in the story, but it’s the idea….it’s essentially the fall of the last city. The last stand of
Will the cool dog be back in it?
Will: Yes, the dog will be a puppy. The dog will be a puppy, yes.
And I have to ask you about the Karate Kid.
Will: Yes, my son yes. We’re working on for “The Karate Kid”. We’re doing that with the China Film Group, so we’re looking….it’s difficult in
What are your holiday plans?
During your last interview he said that when something’s brilliant he tells you it’s brilliant and you believe him and when something’s bad he just straight out tells you that was bad?
Will: Yeah, Gabrielle will say, “that was awful. There’s nothing I could use. It was so bad I turned my eyes away. It’s so bad I don’t know what to tell you. Please just do it again.” Thank you guys.
What’s your move next?
Will: I’m currently unemployed. I’m developing a lot of things. I have no idea.
Do you have any resolutions for the family?
Will: You know, I don’t do New Year’s Resolutions.