FANTASTIC FOUR and X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST Writer-Producer Simon Kinberg Explains Complication of a Crossover

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Last year, we reported that writer-producer Simon Kinberg (X-Men: Days of Future Past) had been tapped to write a “Marvel-style” universe that would bring together 20th Century Fox’s two major superhero properties, X-Men and Fantastic Four because that’s what The Avengers hath wrought.  Kinberg told THR, “I have a lot of ideas on how to build those brands and do what everybody is thinking of these days: Be like Marvel.  I want to be able to build stories over multiple movies.”  While Kinberg may still want to “build those brands”, he’s well aware that it’s not as easy as shoehorning them into the same story.

Hit the jump for more, and click here for what Kinberg told Steve about The Fantastic Four.

x-men-fantastic-four-comicsSpeaking to ScreenCrush, Kinberg explained that there’s a logistical problem of having the X-Men and the Fantastic Four inhabit the same on-screen world because their powers come from different sources:

Because none of the X-Men movies have acknowledged the notion of a sort of superhero team — the Fantastic Four. And the Fantastic Four acquire powers, so for them to live in a world where mutants are prevalent is kind of complicated, because you’re like, “Oh, you’re just a mutant.” Like, “What’s so fantastic about you?”

That doesn’t mean Kinberg has ruled out the possibility, and I’m sure there at those at Fox who still want an X-Men/Fantastic Four crossover, although they might want to ask the good people over at Sony how that “more-is-better” calculation worked with The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

And while I’m sure comic book fans don’t see the problem of bringing the worlds together because that’s just how superhero comics roll, it’s a much tougher sell to a mainstream audience.  It’s important to remember that just because superhero movies might be behemoths at the box office, that doesn’t mean everyone is now a geek who completely understands how these worlds work.  When it comes to X-Men and Fantastic Four, I’m in favor of letting them go their separate ways.




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  • The Destroyer

    I”ve always have had a problem with X-Men being part of the Marvel Comic Universe. Their stories are so much more darker and socially problematic than the other characters, and the “mutant problem” isn’t mentioned in anyone else’s series unless an X-Men character shows up. The movie universe should remain separated.

    • Leo Spaceman

      It probably should, but I think the approach that Marvel is taking to it, is that this is Now the Age of Miracles, and Mutants might start popping up here and there as Miracles rather than Mutants. It would be considered Canon if we can watch the Mutants beginning in this Universe. But who knows, Its The Age of Miracles right now, but next movie it is going to be The Age of Ultron so maybe there won’t be too many mutants.

      • The Destroyer

        Well they arn’t going to merge the entire existing X-Men/Mutant Universe into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so a few “natural” miracles will be interesting. But merging Fantastic Four with X-Men will be a mistake, which is what Fox wants.
        But I do wish that Fox will give up Galacticus and the Silver Surfer so that we can have Annihilation happen, and have Galacticus battle Thanos, and the Guardians and Silver Surfer battle the Annihilation Wave.

      • Scurvy

        I think Marvel is introducing the Inhumans as a way to have mutants who aren’t ‘mutants’.

      • Scurvy

        I think Marvel is introducing the Inhumans as a way to have mutants who aren’t ‘mutants’.

  • Leo Spaceman

    You know who doesn’t give a S**t about these problems? Deadpool doesn’t give a S**t about these problems. Just bring him in and let him joke/half explain it away in small quips. The comic Audience doesn’t really care and once the general audience gets used to it after a movie or two, they won’t care either. The comic world just blends together as needed and go their separate ways when needed. In general no one comes out and asks why didn’t Tony Stark or The Hulk come crashing in to help Thor and Cap stop the their respective menace that would have completely destroyed the world as we knew it. The same general attitude will probably be used with the X-men. But it will be so glorious to watch Wolverine fighting side by side with Captain America in an Avengers movie that I wouldn’t care if they never got involved with stopping the Sentinels.

    • Random Bystander

      Deadpool: The Fantastic Four are only here because Fox wanted us together so it’ll rain dollar dollar bills y’all.
      Everyone else: What the hell is he talking about?

  • NICK НΛRT

    uhhh how did that approach work with spider man 2?

  • Vos_L

    Whenever you’re in a creative field….like making movies….just trying to copy what someone else did is never a good idea. That usually doesn’t turn out well. The X-men and FF have absolutely no business all piled into the same movie, nor are their foes common enemies at all. Trying to force some gimmicky cross-over movie would be disastrous. Keep in mind, all of the X-men/Wolverine/FF movies for Fox have grossed under $460 million at the box office. Even that awful Spider-Man movie that just came out has already grossed $550 million after less than 2 weeks of being released in the US and less than a month overseas. These movies haven’t been huge money-makers for Fox so they need to be wise and no one even knows if they’ll make a decent FF. Their FF could be a flop. On second thought, hopefully Fox does this, it goes horribly and sell at least the FF movie rights back to Marvel, lol.

    • RedMercury

      Well, all of the Fantastic Four? Probably not. But it has been done.

      I could see a situation where Reed is called in to consult on some X-Men problem.

    • RedMercury

      Well, all of the Fantastic Four? Probably not. But it has been done.

      I could see a situation where Reed is called in to consult on some X-Men problem.

    • Nilo Downs

      Explain The Avengers

  • Btbcc12859

    If you dont want to put them in the same universe then why is the FF so young?

  • Btbcc12859

    If you dont want to put them in the same universe then why is the FF so young?

  • MJ

    My God, this sounds moronic.

  • Guest

    Will a Hollywood child rapist direct?

  • Doug

    Whenever I’m watching a stand alone Marvel movie, I’m always wondering, “Where are the other guys?” Like, why didn’t Iron Man come help out with that Shield disaster in D.C., or when the Dark Elves were invading? That’s the weird part to crossovers.

    • TheOscarRP

      Tony Stark destroyed the Iron Man suits at the end of IM3. Thor’s fight with Malekith happened in London in a matter of minutes, so there wasn’t enough time for Cap to come and help. I’d like to know, though, why the hell Captain AMERICA didn’t help Iron Man rescue the AMERICAN president when he was kidnapped by Killian.

      • Doug

        Somehow I forgot all about Iron Man 3.

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  • Johvon

    Did anyone wonder why the fantastic four and doctor doom survived there encounter in space…was it a coincidence or was it there genetic code that helped them…what if they carried the mutant gene and the space incident caused it to activate… (but that wouldn’t matter bc they’re all in the same world and the fantastic four is a popular and very famous super hero group in the marvel universe, so people(regular humans) wouldn’t be afraid of them bc they know how they came across their powers.)

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