Adam: The old-fashioned way. My agent sent the script to me and it worked out nicely. I read it and, it was funny. I hadn’t read the script yet and my agent called me and said ‘the script’s really good’ and I went to The Coffee Bean, this was three years ago now, I went to The Coffee Bean to get coffee and Jon, who I did not know yet, was meeting an actress there who I knew so I bumped into her, we said hello and she introduced me to Jon and he said ‘hey, I think I’m meeting you in a couple of days’. I’m like ‘oh, I heard about it. I can’t wait to read it, well we should just meet here in a couple of days’. I went home and I read it and it was fantastic. I was in from the first page. I knew I would do it if he would have me. We met in the same spot a couple of days later in the evening and he came in and he’s like ‘let’s just go to a bar’. I said ‘all right’. So we went and got a drink and he gave me the part right away. It worked out great. It was a breeze. It was the easiest job I’ve ever gotten in terms of I didn’t have to do anything. I just had to read it. I really lucked out.
Adam: Yeah. It’s funny, this thing has undergone… It was a little more rated R and that was it. It was rated R so there was some more cursing. There was a love scene and, not having anything to do with the rating or the indie quality, but I had some more scenes with guys. There was a scene that got cut that I filmed with Clark Gregg where I meet her husband, that’s good, that I liked. There’s a scene on the porn set where you meet my boss. There’s a scene at the end with my best friend who was originally in the diner with me that you finally meet. Just a coincidence. It wasn’t a purposeful thing to excise all the men out of the movie but I think those are just cutting room decisions to keep it at a breezy pace. I don’t know. That said, it is what it is. So much of how it changed doesn’t have to do with the PG-13 rating and the wide release. So much has to do with the nature of filming and editing and things changing through the process and it taking on an unexpected life of its own.
Adam: Yeah, I had my dad embarrass me horribly. The worst mistake I ever did. This was five years ago or maybe more. My dad was in town and I had an audition and I said ‘why don’t you just come with me? I’ve got to do this thing and then we’ll get a bite to eat.’ I was in an audition where there was a mix and match with girls so you read with them. I was reading with this really cute girl. My dad thinks he’s funny. I think he’s funny in the sense of how not funny he is. I’m not just saying that to be a dick. His jokes are bad. We did the audition and it was fine and we were leaving and I said, ‘I think I want to ask for her number so could you go get the car and I’ll meet you there in a minute’. She came out and I started talking to her and my dad pulls up in the car and like honks the horn and rolls down the window and gives me the thumbs up. I was truly pissed. I was actually like ‘it’s not even funny’. In hindsight it’s funny but at the time, he said ‘give me a break. She thought it was funny. Come on’. I’m like ‘it wasn’t, man. You really blew it for me. It’s not funny’.
Adam: I did but I don’t think she called me back.
Adam: No. I certainly don’t. Not when I’m sitting in the backyard on Monday morning thinking, ‘wow, I could be in the Cohen kitchen for six hours right now’. No, I don’t.
Adam: I don’t know. I’m sort of figuring that out. It’s the small things. I’m getting adjusted to my old sort of unemployed life where the coffee shop is like eleven, twelve, one, whenever I may get up, that’s a big part of my day, the first appointment of the day. The matinee I see is on the schedule too. It’s the little things. All little things and it’s really fun actually. I enjoy the routine of making your own Sunday routine Monday through Friday.
Adam: Yeah, of course. I read them too quick. My agent will call me about a script and it won’t get to me for like two days and I’m like piss….I call him like, ‘just sent it to me. I’ll read it. I’ll get right back to you but, I’m excited. Come on!’ But yeah, absolutely. I wish I could say I was reading tons but I just read what comes my way.
Adam: Yeah, I think every relationship I’ve ever been in has been ultimately a good thing and was really a learning experience. I don’t have any horror stories there. I think my mom is fantastic. She’s a really great person and she instilled in us, if nothing else, compassion.
Adam: No, because I used to be in it [he’s kidding]. That was actually something I brought to it already.
Adam: Jon’s fantastic. You would never, ever know it on set. I can’t believe he hasn’t directed a short film. Granted, the household he grew up in is certainly well-versed in film but still, and he wrote it but, it’s not just in the story, in the shooting, for a guy who’s never shot anything, he sure knows a lot about DP’s and lenses and texture and color strips and film stock. It may have been his first thing but he’s absolutely a veteran.
Adam: He’s great. He’s also a good actor. He was giving me some line readings and do it better than I can do it. Also, the script is really personal to him in more helpful ways. It’s not autobiographical, the story but almost anything anyone says in this movie is either from Jon’s life or from someone very close to him. You ask him why a comma is here and he can tell you the personal story. That was actually very helpful in terms of motivation.
Adam: Well, when I moved to
Adam: No, I think that’s what John’s fascination is with that high school experience, and mine, growing up out here. I grew up in a typical high school, but I spent most of my high school actually at the beach, which the majority of my high school didn’t.
Adam: No, but I sort of checked out, socially, around high school. I was reminiscing with a friend the other day and, as a result, the beach was it’s own high school. Everyone had their local beach and a bunch of the surfers from different high schools would go there. As a result, a lot of my high school friends were completely different ages and went to different high schools. And then, I’m friends with a few random bums, who are really crazy people. We still talk about the local bum.
Adam: Sort of, yeah. His name was Emmett and, I don’t want to be rude, but he had an arm problem. He was a really sweet guy, and he never wore a wet suit. It was mind-blowing in the winter. But, if I did write a true movie about my youth, it would heavily involve the beach. I don’t know what that is, emotionally. I just know the setting. It’s weird how similar John and I are in this. John went to Crossroads out here, which is not a typical high school experience either, and Carter is very clearly describing that school in the movie. He has this fascination with the
Adam: Just barely. John, obviously, had his opinions and songs picked out. And, we had a great music supervisor on this movie, that does all of John’s brother’s movies too. At the end of the day, I weighed in as heavily as I could and I think I got a few songs in there, but I’m really happy with the soundtrack, actually. I think it’s cool. I think it’s also underrated, in the sense that no one’s talking about it, no one’s selling it. I mean, somebody is selling it, but it’s not a big part of this movie, and I actually think it’s a really good soundtrack that is hand-picked. It doesn’t feel like a studio soundtrack. It’s very much a personal reflection of everyone’s tastes that made the movie.
Adam: Yeah. It was rare on this movie, but all the interiors were shot in the interiors of those houses that we did the exteriors at, which isn’t always the case. So, we spent a lot of time on that block and that street. They don’t have things film there -- it was on
Adam: Money. Also, the steady job is nice. Even if it can be a drag or doesn’t feel artistically satisfying, there’s something nice about stability. As much as you bitch about your job, there’s some security knowing it’s there. When you do take it away, it’s definitely a different feeling. And, I’d say the people, but I still keep in contact. Everyone I really want to see from there, I do, on a pretty regular basis. Even that part is not too bad.
Adam: Sure, I would. Although, next time around, I will be thinking a little more about schedule and how it’s going to work and what it means for my days. When you’re going to do something for 1-10 years, it’s something to think about. We’ll see if I’m in a position, when that happens, to factor that in.
Adam: A little bit. I was flattered, actually. But, barely. I really wasn’t interested this year, and I don’t know how quickly that will change. I definitely was not ready to jump right back in. I read one thing that I thought, “If it wasn’t this year, and given a slightly different position, I would love to do this.”
Adam: Yeah. In fact, if I had my pick of anything and I was doing TV, I probably would do a 30 minute, only because of the schedule. The shows I tend to like on TV are 30 minute.
Adam: I like ‘30 Rock.’ I enjoy that a lot. I think being on something like that would be a blast.
Adam: It was great. She’s really good in the movie, I think. And, it was nice to do a classic romantic comedy walk-and-talk with Meg Ryan, which is sort of her staple. It was nice. I felt like I was doing a piece of classic cinema. I don’t mean the thing will live on, but the Meg Ryan walk-and-talk is a big deal for me.
Adam: Yeah, she’s great. It absolutely was. She’s a fantastic actress.
Adam: The one thing I didn’t do was have that active a social life there. It was
Adam: I’ve cameo-ed in a couple independent comedies. And, I did two more seasons of ‘The O.C.’ Now, I have no idea. I truly can’t wait to go to work on something. I did this two years ago now, coming this summer, and I can’t wait to sink my teeth into something again. I just don’t know what that will be or when. I don’t even have a preference. I just want it to be good.
Adam: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It is. I haven’t even seen it in awhile, but it takes on a life of it’s own, the more you talk about it and I hear John talk about it. It starts to steam roll. It was weird, for a second, going, “Alright, I’m going to have to do a bunch of press for this and I’m going to have to dredge up old stories.” But, now I’m in the thick of it and it feels like I did just do it because I’ve been talking about it for a week.
Adam: I love all sorts of genres, and I would love to be a part of any kind of quality movie, but I would love to figure out a way that I could be in a movie that’s kind of big. When I say big, I mean explosions. And, I don’t have to be the guy. I can be the funny guy. It’s so funny that John wrote this movie and this is the movie we did together because all we talk about is comic book movies and action stuff. We’ll be forever disappointed that this movie doesn’t really necessitate a teaser poster and teaser trailer. I can speak for him too. We’re just huge fans of that. Even more than the summer movies, I like the poster and the whole event film idea. I would love to be involved in something someday that has a big poster, a big teaser and feels big -- a big event film.
Adam: I was a little underwhelmed. I had been waiting to go for a long, long time, and I really wanted to go. I wanted to wait until I had something there, so I felt like I could go on the rides. It was okay. It was fun. I had a blast. But, it was a weird dichotomy of the most pure movies being made around the world, and the truest artists and people working with the most creative freedom, mixed with the most corporate environment I’ve ever been in, in my life. I’m for the sponsors. I understand, and all that stuff’s great. But, when I’m getting handed blue Direct TV shots, it’s weird. Everything is a red carpet. And, as much as those swag suites are cool, they’re not that cool. I took pictures with a lot of shit I didn’t like and I didn’t want, in the first place. The movies were cool and the people are really nice, but it was a scene, in a way, I wasn’t totally expecting.
Adam: Yeah, of course. That said, I had a fun time, and I would love to have a reason to go back. I would love to be in a movie that gets in there. But, just as a whole, it just felt like much more of a corporate trade show. And, I knew it wasn’t the arty, independent scene, and that’s fine. I was going for big
Adam: I think I’m good at that stuff. Absolutely. I think I’m a fairly good communicator, and I can offer some good relationship advice, when asked, I believe. I don’t have a lot of high drama friends, so no one’s ever running to me. If you keep needing to ask for advice a lot, then something’s probably not working.
Adam: Yeah, very much so. I was completely. It was sort of a natural fit. I felt like I got the voice very easy.
Adam: Yeah. I think everyone is. I can’t even believe how fast it moves now. This is an agent-y observation that I wish I wasn’t so aware of, but I am good friends with my agent and we always talk business. It’s fun. It’s like the stock market. But, I can’t believe how fast it moves now. It really is your last project. Film is so unbelievably trendy. There’s so many good actors, but it’s so much about who was in the last successful independent film. Look at the cast of the new ‘Batman’ that they’re filming vs. the ‘Batman’ 10 years ago when everyone in that had been a star for 10 years, minimum. Now, if you look at everyone in it, nobody’s exactly famous famous, and everyone’s in it, based exclusively on their last successful independent film, which is great and I’m happy, and they’re all great actors, but it works so fast now. Of course, there’s anxiety about the next job, but, man, it is so out of your hands that I really am trying to zen out a little and go, “Look, I can just work with what I’ve got and it’s not up to me, exactly.” It isn’t. There’s a lot good actors. There’s a lot of good people that can do what I do. Hopefully, the cards fall in a nice way.