Even though Zack Snyder currently can’t really say anything incredibly substantial about Batman vs. Superman (unofficial title), he can talk around it, and that’s close enough for most fanboys. In a recent interview with Forbes, Snyder gave his thoughts on both characters and seeing them together on screen. Personally, the most disconcerting part of the interview is when the interviewer says, “Superman is kind of the ideal of what we’d like to be, and Batman is kind of rooted in what we are. He reflects what we are, so to speak,” and Snyder replies, “Oh, 100%. And I think that’s at the heart of that, you know.” I could not disagree more with that response. I think an “idealist versus pragmatist” approach is understandable, but please don’t lump me in with a billionaire who treats a crime-ridden city like a playground so he can constantly work though his childhood trauma.
Hit the jump for more of what Snyder had to say about the Batman vs. Superman costumes, seeing Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman together on screen for the first time, when we might start seeing official images, and more. The film stars Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Jesse Eisenberg, Gal Gadot, Amy Adams, Diane Lane, Jeremy Irons, and Laurence Fishburne. Batman vs. Superman opens May 6, 2016.
Snyder tells Forbes that while he has always harbored a desire to do a Batman movie, that wasn’t his foremost concern for the sequel. When it came to reintroducing the Dark Knight, Snyder gave the idea ample consideration:
Once you say, “What about Batman?” then you realize, “Okay, that’s a cool idea. What else?” I mean, what do you say after that? …But I’m not gonna say at all that when I took the job to do Man of Steel that I did it in a subversive way to get to Batman. I really believe that only after contemplating who could face [Superman] did Batman come into the picture.
The director also talked about doing the screen tests for the costumes, and even though he hasn’t seen Cavill (Superman), Affleck (Batman), and Gadot (Wonder woman) officially on-screen together, he has seen their stand-ins together wearing the costumes:
Even just Batman and Superman standing next to each other… [I]t’s kind of epic. You do sort of sense the weight of the pop culture iconography jumping out of its skin when you’re standing there looking at the two of them and Wonder Woman. It’s crazy. But it’s fun. I mean, I have the first photo, I’ve got it in my archive because I was like, “Okay, I better keep this, it’s gonna be worth something,” [laughs]!
Personally, I hope that’s something he’ll put on the Blu-ray extras. If it’s such a big deal for him, I’m sure the fans would go nuts over it.
When it comes to what fans will officially see in the near future, Snyder’s not quite sure. Filming begins soon, but he’s not sure of the studio’s marketing timetable since the release date is almost two years away:
Because the movie takes place so far from now, it’s hard to know exactly. That all gets tied to marketing and strategies for the movie. It’s not just a free-for-all, which I’d love it to be. Because I take a picture of the suit with my camera– I’m actually staring at one right now in my office. And it’s just massive on my wall in my office and it’s epic, let me tell you! And I’m like, “God, I want to send this to the Internet immediately.” But I know I’m not allowed to [laughs]! I do value the sort of excitement of the way the film is [revealed]… the pieces that are released and sort of trickle out to everybody, and those reveals are exciting milestones for us.
But, when we finally do show it, it’s gonna be real fun. And it’s true, you gotta make sure– you’re gonna want the real shot…
Hopefully, Warner Bros. will go the same route they did when it came to Christopher Nolan‘s Batman movies—release official images before outdoor filming begins so that the first look is an ideal image of a character rather than a blurry snapshot taken with a camera phone.
Finally, Snyder had an interesting quote when it came to how he views violence in his movies:
I really wanted to show the violence is real, people get killed or get hurt, and it’s not fun or funny. And I guess for me, it was like I wanted a hero in Superman that was a real hero and sort of reflected the world we live in now…
As we’ve been writing the script and talking about what to do with these characters, how they face off and why and what it means, you know, we’ve really tried to think about it in a real– I guess in a way that talks about who we are as well.
It’s fascinating that Snyder sees Man of Steel that way—”people get killed or get hurt”—when he shows absolutely none of that in the movie. I’m also not sure what he means when he says Superman was “a real hero and sort of reflected the world we live in now…” Can someone explain that in the comments section?